futant
04-16-2007, 12:33 AM
This seems like an age old debate.
you can clutch it up(normally a sitdown)
you can bounce it up(easier on a standup)
now I've heard and read the majority of stunters say clutch ups are safer / easier/ more reliable/ consistant, and the general route every one should be taking . That you should not be using the bounce /power method (i also on/off the trottle sometimes).
They say that the later method is less safe/error prone. That clutch ups are safer , more reliable, whatever
however , I learned from a great master stunter neighbor of mine to only do the bounce up/powerup / all 'body english' method and that this is where it is at. I can't argue too much it works fine , done hundreds by now. Ive done a lot pretty far, but I could be better.
now we aren't talking parking lot stuff, if that will clear up and confusion. I think it is safe to say you will always be clutching up there. Please correct me if i am wrong.
Now I tried the clutch ups the other day and definitely see the differences right off.
1. clutch ups seemed easier to not screw up. If not enough rev, no problem. Too much never seemed to happen (not suprising since I ride a CBR F2/F3). I guess that one time i was in first gear was a bit surprising. Cover that rear brake!
2. you have to clutch from low rpm , and rev the piss out of it(be accelerating on back tire before clutch also). I had to clutch.... wait literally a split second, and drop the clutch. Pretty cool though how smooth it jumps up.
3. you clutch up at a low rpm vs you bounce up at a mid rpm - this didn't seem to matter much to me. I would say in general- clutch before you get into power, or it won't come up. It makes perfect sense since it has to rev a good large bit higher to overcome clutch slip too. Torque is what jumps a bike up, not high rpm/hp those just heat the clutch up, and realistically your bike is already accelating too fast to leap up like you need to get into a balance whoolie. If you are mid gear on my bike and try to clutch it will only jump up about a 1 foot. Lame
So my question is
So is there a best method?
Any one think the same?
you can clutch it up(normally a sitdown)
you can bounce it up(easier on a standup)
now I've heard and read the majority of stunters say clutch ups are safer / easier/ more reliable/ consistant, and the general route every one should be taking . That you should not be using the bounce /power method (i also on/off the trottle sometimes).
They say that the later method is less safe/error prone. That clutch ups are safer , more reliable, whatever
however , I learned from a great master stunter neighbor of mine to only do the bounce up/powerup / all 'body english' method and that this is where it is at. I can't argue too much it works fine , done hundreds by now. Ive done a lot pretty far, but I could be better.
now we aren't talking parking lot stuff, if that will clear up and confusion. I think it is safe to say you will always be clutching up there. Please correct me if i am wrong.
Now I tried the clutch ups the other day and definitely see the differences right off.
1. clutch ups seemed easier to not screw up. If not enough rev, no problem. Too much never seemed to happen (not suprising since I ride a CBR F2/F3). I guess that one time i was in first gear was a bit surprising. Cover that rear brake!
2. you have to clutch from low rpm , and rev the piss out of it(be accelerating on back tire before clutch also). I had to clutch.... wait literally a split second, and drop the clutch. Pretty cool though how smooth it jumps up.
3. you clutch up at a low rpm vs you bounce up at a mid rpm - this didn't seem to matter much to me. I would say in general- clutch before you get into power, or it won't come up. It makes perfect sense since it has to rev a good large bit higher to overcome clutch slip too. Torque is what jumps a bike up, not high rpm/hp those just heat the clutch up, and realistically your bike is already accelating too fast to leap up like you need to get into a balance whoolie. If you are mid gear on my bike and try to clutch it will only jump up about a 1 foot. Lame
So my question is
So is there a best method?
Any one think the same?