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Fox466
03-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Just saw this and must admit it quirked my interest. Think we'll run it up their asses or is it a bluff?
Russia
Russian intelligence sees U.S. military buildup on Iran border
17:31 | 27/ 03/ 2007
MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) - Russian military intelligence services are reporting a flurry of activity by U.S. Armed Forces near Iran's borders, a high-ranking security source said Tuesday.
"The latest military intelligence data point to heightened U.S. military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran," the official said, adding that the Pentagon has probably not yet made a final decision as to when an attack will be launched.
He said the Pentagon is looking for a way to deliver a strike against Iran "that would enable the Americans to bring the country to its knees at minimal cost."
He also said the U.S. Naval presence in the Persian Gulf has for the first time in the past four years reached the level that existed shortly before the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.
Col.-Gen. Leonid Ivashov, vice president of the Academy of Geopolitical Sciences, said last week that the Pentagon is planning to deliver a massive air strike on Iran's military infrastructure in the near future.
A new U.S. carrier battle group has been dispatched to the Gulf.
The USS John C. Stennis, with a crew of 3,200 and around 80 fixed-wing aircraft, including F/A-18 Hornet and Superhornet fighter-bombers, eight support ships and four nuclear submarines are heading for the Gulf, where a similar group led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower has been deployed since December 2006.
The U.S. is also sending Patriot anti-missile systems to the region.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070327/62697703.html
Trip McNeely
03-28-2007, 05:33 PM
:eek: :cool:
This is never a good thing to hear, well if I was Iranian..
bring the country to its knees
agiraldo
03-28-2007, 05:33 PM
God Bless The U.S.
I don't think it is true at all. The Russians can't wait to see us attack the Iranians because they recently got fucked out of some money.
Trip McNeely
03-28-2007, 05:39 PM
Im willing to bet they chicken out, and go North Korea on us and offer us a"deal" :rolleyes: Well Id call it more a steal, on our part...
Fox466
03-28-2007, 05:42 PM
I don't think it is true at all. The Russians can't wait to see us attack the Iranians because they recently got fucked out of some money.
How so? What did I miss? An arms deal of some sort?
Walsted
03-28-2007, 06:39 PM
This could all just be a matter of timing...
I thought the Patriot move had been planned for a while, although I forgot where in the MidEast they were supposed to end up. Definitely not sure on that one, but it does seem like I've read it in the past few months or so.
I also thought that we had more troops on the Iraq/Iran border to prevent weapons imports from Iran to the insurgents. More of a defensive rather than pre-offensive buildup.
The Ike and Stennis carrier battle groups could both be there at the same time so that they can conduct an on-station relief. Since the Ike has been there since December, it's probably about time for them to return to Norfolk. It is possible that an exercise was planned to take place at turnover, and Iran just coincidently picked a bad time to act up. It's not uncommon for two carriers to be in the same place for a short time, maybe a week or two on the long end, to conduct exercises. I know a couple of cases during the Cold War when the Midway, Coral Sea, and Enterprise were operating together near Kamchatka in the winter. (Beginning and end of the winter of 82/83) Brought a whole new meaning to "Cold" war.
On the other hand, if the Ike hangs around for a while, that would indicate that it may not be just coincidence.
Mustangman_2000
03-28-2007, 06:45 PM
i would want to see those claims substantiated by more sources before i would think too much about it.
Vertnut
03-28-2007, 06:51 PM
It's just a matter of time before someone has to bust their ass. Remember Libya?
I blame Dick Chaney. This is kinda like his shooting "accident" while quail hunting.
Aiming at Iran...
Iran...
Iran....
SHOOTS!
Shit, I hit Iraq.
SlowLX
03-28-2007, 07:20 PM
I blame Dick Chaney. This is kinda like his shooting "accident" while quail hunting.
Aiming at Iran...
Iran...
Iran....
SHOOTS!
Shit, I hit Iraq.
i lol'd
636ryder
03-28-2007, 07:27 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17836178/?GT1=9145
This is a nifty lil read on our current secretary and the situation. At this moment(today) I don't think too much is being done. Now if Iran were to execute the sailors/marines, then yea im pretty sure we would.
line-em-up
03-28-2007, 07:43 PM
I don't think it is true at all. The Russians can't wait to see us attack the Iranians because they recently got fucked out of some money.
It's ironic how this parrallels the plot on '24'; The Russian terrorist is trying to get the middle east and US into a war with each other so they basically take each other out.
It's ironic how this parrallels the plot on '24'; The Russian terrorist is trying to get the middle east and US into a war with each other so they basically take each other out.
Well then we have nothing to worry about when Jack saves the day once again in time for a commercial break.
Stang Seller
03-28-2007, 08:29 PM
I hope the US manages to do this without launching a military strike, but somehow finds a way to cripple the Islamic Regime and the Revolutionary Guard. If the US launches a military strike, theres gonna be some trouble for everyone. I really don't think it will be as easy as you boys seem to think. If the US manages to cripple the regime, then the people can hopefully be allowed to put together their own government. The Iranian people are ready for a change. But, if the US goes and does something stupid again then we're all in big shit.
SS
It's ironic how this parrallels the plot on '24'; The Russian terrorist is trying to get the middle east and US into a war with each other so they basically take each other out.
So you think Fox is secretly airing episodes over there first?
usmcluke
03-28-2007, 08:45 PM
I hope the US manages to do this without launching a military strike, but somehow finds a way to cripple the Islamic Regime and the Revolutionary Guard. If the US launches a military strike, theres gonna be some trouble for everyone. I really don't think it will be as easy as you boys seem to think. If the US manages to cripple the regime, then the people can hopefully be allowed to put together their own government. The Iranian people are ready for a change. But, if the US goes and does something stupid again then we're all in big shit.
SS
What the fuck do you think were are doing in Iraq? Setting up a chorus line?
TexasDevilDog
03-28-2007, 08:46 PM
I guess the US military might be pulling out of Iraq shortly.
JP135
03-28-2007, 08:50 PM
Always suspect that Russian intelligence is BS. They aren't great allies to us or anyone else in the west. They plant and spin stories at will to suit their own needs.
We (western allies) need to take some kind of action, regardless, so these effin ragheads don't think it's cool to screw with us or the UK anytime they feel like it. Iran already got a free pass for invading sovreign US soil in 1979 now they're doing this with the UK. Time to blow shit up and break things.
For the life of me I still can't understand why a British Royal Navy ship would allow their people to be surrounded and taken hostage by the damn Iranian navy. I understand somebody at British Naval command told the ships on the scene to hold their fire. Whoever made that order should be relieved of command.
Trip McNeely
03-28-2007, 08:57 PM
They plant and spin stories at will to suit their own needs.
Sounds like they get their info from the New York Times.
Fox466
03-28-2007, 09:20 PM
Im willing to bet they chicken out, and go North Korea on us and offer us a"deal" :rolleyes:
Can I borrow your eight ball?
Iran: Britain Must Admit Navy Trespassed
Mar 28 07:37 PM US/Eastern
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's foreign minister said Wednesday that Britain must admit that its 15 sailors and marines entered Iranian waters in order to resolve a standoff over their capture by Iranian authorities.
Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki's announcement came on a day of escalating tensions, highlighted by an Iranian video of the detained Britons that showed the only woman captive saying her group had "trespassed" in Iranian waters. Britain angrily denounced the video as unacceptable and froze most dealings with the mideast nation.
"First they have to admit that they have made a mistake. Admitting the mistake will facilitate a solution to the problem," Mottaki told The Associated Press in an interview in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. "But unfortunately the British have not admitted their mistake."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8O5FP200&show_article=1
Walsted
03-28-2007, 09:36 PM
I hope the US manages to do this without launching a military strike, but somehow finds a way to cripple the Islamic Regime and the Revolutionary Guard. If the US launches a military strike, theres gonna be some trouble for everyone. I really don't think it will be as easy as you boys seem to think. If the US manages to cripple the regime, then the people can hopefully be allowed to put together their own government. The Iranian people are ready for a change. But, if the US goes and does something stupid again then we're all in big shit.
SS
I doubt the US would start anything, since the sailor-kidnapping is a UK problem. It would also be nearly impossible for the US to change or cripple the regime without doing anything that others would consider stupid. Since Iran is a virtual theocracy, anything the US does against the leaders of Iran, whether military or non-military, will be spun as an assault against Islam, and the populace will hate the US for acts against Islam.
If Iran attacks first, and the US has to respond militarily, the Iranian populace will be the losers. As seen in Iraq and Afghanistan, the US military's first moves in any conflict will be to reduce the enemy's ability to retaliate. This is done by disabling the command and control structure, which means disabling the country's communication. Destroying the power grid also adds to the chaos. These initial moves, which help to ensure that the US gains air superiority in short order, probably angers a lot of the enemy populace. If we look specifically at an Iran/US conflict, the Iranian people, who already hate us, are probably not going to say "Hey, this would be a good time for a revolution." The more probable response would probably "Those US jerks - we hate them even more," and support their current leadership in their conflict against the US, strengthening the regime right up to the point in a conflict that Iran has the same infrastructure as Iraq's 1991 infrastructure.
The question, though, is what would the US accomplish through an armed conflict with Iran? The US doesn't want Iranian land, and a peaceful Iran means more stable oil markets. The only people getting anything out of tension between the US and Iran are those that are part of the Iranian leadership, who can incite fear in the populace by painting the US as a threat.
My guess? If Iran continues to commit acts of war in the Gulf, the a good portion of current Iranian Navy could end up on the bottom of the Gulf, resulting in the deaths of a lot of Iranian sailors, which will be blamed on the US, even if the US is not the first aggressor, and this would not be good. If it escalates, the Iran loses and the US doesn't really win.
I could be wrong, and you probably have a much better grasp on internal Iranian politics.
Walsted
03-28-2007, 09:45 PM
For the life of me I still can't understand why a British Royal Navy ship would allow their people to be surrounded and taken hostage by the damn Iranian navy. I understand somebody at British Naval command told the ships on the scene to hold their fire. Whoever made that order should be relieved of command.
There are idiots in every military organization. We lost a ship in the Gulf years ago because the CO of the USS STARK didn't leave the CIWS turned on. I seem to remember that the CO was worried about what would happen if the CIWS went off accidently. Thirty seven people lost their lives because of that.
Stang Seller
03-28-2007, 09:46 PM
What the fuck do you think were are doing in Iraq? Setting up a chorus line?
Thats kinda what it looks like.
Fox466
03-28-2007, 09:48 PM
Thats kinda what it looks like.
If you will pull this liberal media thorn out of our asses our men and women will be more than happy to change that perception for you... :cool:
Stang Seller
03-28-2007, 09:55 PM
I doubt the US would start anything, since the sailor-kidnapping is a UK problem. It would also be nearly impossible for the US to change or cripple the regime without doing anything that others would consider stupid. Since Iran is a virtual theocracy, anything the US does against the leaders of Iran, whether military or non-military, will be spun as an assault against Islam, and the populace will hate the US for acts against Islam.
If Iran attacks first, and the US has to respond militarily, the Iranian populace will be the losers. As seen in Iraq and Afghanistan, the US military's first moves in any conflict will be to reduce the enemy's ability to retaliate. This is done by disabling the command and control structure, which means disabling the country's communication. Destroying the power grid also adds to the chaos. These initial moves, which help to ensure that the US gains air superiority in short order, probably angers a lot of the enemy populace. If we look specifically at an Iran/US conflict, the Iranian people, who already hate us, are probably not going to say "Hey, this would be a good time for a revolution." The more probable response would probably "Those US jerks - we hate them even more," and support their current leadership in their conflict against the US, strengthening the regime right up to the point in a conflict that Iran has the same infrastructure as Iraq's 1991 infrastructure.
The question, though, is what would the US accomplish through an armed conflict with Iran? The US doesn't want Iranian land, and a peaceful Iran means more stable oil markets. The only people getting anything out of tension between the US and Iran are those that are part of the Iranian leadership, who can incite fear in the populace by painting the US as a threat.
My guess? If Iran continues to commit acts of war in the Gulf, the a good portion of current Iranian Navy could end up on the bottom of the Gulf, resulting in the deaths of a lot of Iranian sailors, which will be blamed on the US, even if the US is not the first aggressor, and this would not be good. If it escalates, the Iran loses and the US doesn't really win.
I could be wrong, and you probably have a much better grasp on internal Iranian politics.
You are right in a sense, and in theory. But Iran is not the typical Islamic land, and we do not think like Arabs. What you have said, an Arab would do that to a T.
Any military action towards Iran would obviously cause anger and discontent. It seems to me that the Iranian Gov is trying to goad some sort of a response, or at least they wanted some bargaining chips. Either way, dumb move on their part but I don't believe everything I hear in the news. For the people of Iran, this is not a good move.
If Iran does commit acts of war in the Gulf there will be some sort of retaliatory move sooner or later. The US will not see any benefits of any sort in short sight, but in the long run there will be benefits. Remember, pre Revolution Iran was America's strongest ally. A world power, fifth strongest military in the world, burgeoning economy, and it was all taken in one year and the people still aren't where they were pre 1978. The citizens of Iran do not want a conflict, nor do they want to live under an oppressive regime. If the US plays it just the right way, they could come out of this much better than they are right now in the middle east. Iran can very easily become a regional power again, it will just take the right steps and complete removal of the Islamic Regime.
SS
46Tbird
03-28-2007, 09:57 PM
Too bad you and your family are too chickenshit to help make that happen.
Trip McNeely
03-28-2007, 10:00 PM
Can I borrow your eight ball?
Iran: Britain Must Admit Navy Trespassed
Mar 28 07:37 PM US/Eastern
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's foreign minister said Wednesday that Britain must admit that its 15 sailors and marines entered Iranian waters in order to resolve a standoff over their capture by Iranian authorities.
Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki's announcement came on a day of escalating tensions, highlighted by an Iranian video of the detained Britons that showed the only woman captive saying her group had "trespassed" in Iranian waters. Britain angrily denounced the video as unacceptable and froze most dealings with the mideast nation.
"First they have to admit that they have made a mistake. Admitting the mistake will facilitate a solution to the problem," Mottaki told The Associated Press in an interview in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. "But unfortunately the British have not admitted their mistake."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8O5FP200&show_article=1
lol. Figures. Hell and why not, it worked for someone else, why not. Fuck them. We/Britian should say "NO DEAL, GET FUCKED!"
JP135
03-28-2007, 10:16 PM
There are idiots in every military organization. We lost a ship in the Gulf years ago because the CO of the USS STARK didn't leave the CIWS turned on. I seem to remember that the CO was worried about what would happen if the CIWS went off accidently. Thirty seven people lost their lives because of that.
I remember that. Agreed 100%.
Stang Seller
03-28-2007, 11:53 PM
Too bad you and your family are too chickenshit to help make that happen.
Hey there, nice to see you have some input. Since you know jack shit about what my family and I have done or are doing in regards to the matter, you can most definitely twinkle my balls. Remember, twinkle gently.
SS
Mustangman_2000
03-29-2007, 12:32 AM
I blame Dick Chaney. This is kinda like his shooting "accident" while quail hunting.
Aiming at Iran...
Iran...
Iran....
SHOOTS!
Shit, I hit Iraq.
lol
Denny
03-29-2007, 06:03 AM
I hope the US manages to do this without launching a military strike, but somehow finds a way to cripple the Islamic Regime and the Revolutionary Guard. If the US launches a military strike, theres gonna be some trouble for everyone. I really don't think it will be as easy as you boys seem to think. If the US manages to cripple the regime, then the people can hopefully be allowed to put together their own government. The Iranian people are ready for a change. But, if the US goes and does something stupid again then we're all in big shit.
SS
Ya, just like Iraq? :rolleyes: You know, I was once a supporter of that cause. I thought how great it would be to take out Saddam's regime and help Iraq build itself to its full potential. Hell, I even went out there to assist. I have since come to reality that the Iraqis, like most of the other Middle East, are nothing but savage dirtbags that either need to be eliminated or just stand back and eliminate themselves. The only problem with standing back is the potential for harm to go elsewhere as well. Iran is just the same. Once the regime is brought down, you'll see fighting among the people in 3457896534 different directions. Just save time, money and lives and level the place.
Denny
03-29-2007, 06:08 AM
I doubt the US would start anything, since the sailor-kidnapping is a UK problem.
You're wrong, right from your first sentence. It is not a UK problem. It's a coallition problem. Those British sailors were working as part of a joint effort with other nations to provide support to Iraq. It's OUR problem.
Casper
03-29-2007, 08:40 AM
Ya, just like Iraq? :rolleyes: You know, I was once a supporter of that cause. I thought how great it would be to take out Saddam's regime and help Iraq build itself to its full potential. Hell, I even went out there to assist. I have since come to reality that the Iraqis, like most of the other Middle East, are nothing but savage dirtbags that either need to be eliminated or just stand back and eliminate themselves. The only problem with standing back is the potential for harm to go elsewhere as well. Iran is just the same. Once the regime is brought down, you'll see fighting among the people in 3457896534 different directions. Just save time, money and lives and level the place.
I think that has more to do with Colonial presence dividing the region acording to strategic instead of cultural lines.
Should have made Kurds independent and told Turkey to lick our nutsack. In 1990.
I blame powel and bush I.
Denny
03-29-2007, 08:42 AM
I think that has more to do with Colonial presence dividing the region acording to strategic instead of cultural lines.
Should have made Kurds independent and told Turkey to lick our nutsack. In 1990.
I blame powel and bush I.
I blame the Kurds for not doing it themselves, but that's just me.
Walsted
03-29-2007, 08:53 AM
You're wrong, right from your first sentence. It is not a UK problem. It's a coallition problem. Those British sailors were working as part of a joint effort with other nations to provide support to Iraq. It's OUR problem.
The issue could be looked at both ways, and although in a purely strict interpretation sense, you are right, I don't think that point-of-view allows us as many options.
If we treat it as a coalition problem from the get-go, Iran will want to trade the 15 coalition military members for the 5 Iranians that the coalition holds, and the 15 UK personnel then have value to Iran. If it is treated as solely a UK problem, the UK doesn't hold any Iranians, so there is no reason for Iran to try and bargain for the return of the 5 bomb smugglers with a group not holding them, and their presence becomes a liability on the world stage, possibly alienating some of their trading partners, such as China. Treating it as a UK problem at first still allows the US to treat it as a coalition problem at a later if any harm befalls the 15 UK military members.
Others may see it differently.
Denny
03-29-2007, 09:02 AM
Right now, anything to justify our existance out there is welcomed.
Casper
03-29-2007, 09:04 AM
Detaining and humiliating them is harm enough in my book.
Britain needs to send in some attack subs and sink the Iranian navy.
Denny
03-29-2007, 09:06 AM
Detaining and humiliating them is harm enough in my book.
Britain needs to send in some attack subs and sink the Iranian navy.
I think shrinking Iraning water territory is a good starting place. Notice they only went after the small rafts?
Casper
03-29-2007, 09:13 AM
Agreed. They are counting on reluctance to inhibit gulf shipping. Call that bluff, and raise it with a shrinkage of land territory too.
Start a Zoroastrian homeland and right of return movement.
And a Mannichean movement as well.
636ryder
03-29-2007, 10:14 AM
I might have this wrong, but if someone attacks the UK, us, Russia, Germany, etc aren't we all supposed to help out? I thought I read somewhere because of this other countries aside from just the UK and us were tellin em to let the 15 go. If thats legit, wouldn't it be more military forces than just us 2 going in there? That being the case since were already heavily invovled in Iraq couldn't we do what like the smaller contributing countries are already doing in Iraq/Afghanistan, in Iran if military action is taken? To me, that would seem the best way to go about it as far as getting support from the public for the US to get involved.
Denny
03-29-2007, 10:16 AM
I might have this wrong, but if someone attacks the UK, us, Russia, Germany, etc aren't we all supposed to help out? I thought I read somewhere because of this other countries aside from just the UK and us were tellin em to let the 15 go. If thats legit, wouldn't it be more military forces than just us 2 going in there? That being the case since were already heavily invovled in Iraq couldn't we do what like the smaller contributing countries are already doing in Iraq/Afghanistan, in Iran if military action is taken? To me, that would seem the best way to go about it as far as getting support from the public for the US to get involved.
That's how it's supposed to happen on a lot of situations, but guess what?
636ryder
03-29-2007, 10:21 AM
That's how it's supposed to happen on a lot of situations, but guess what?
Yeah I noticed. :rolleyes: But what do ya think bout the goin in but as us not being the main driving force, just there like how poland is in Iraq/Afghanistan? Think it would actually fly or we'd wanna take the reins and lead the shit?
I might have this wrong, but if someone attacks the UK, us, Russia, Germany, etc aren't we all supposed to help out? I thought I read somewhere because of this other countries aside from just the UK and us were tellin em to let the 15 go. If thats legit, wouldn't it be more military forces than just us 2 going in there? That being the case since were already heavily invovled in Iraq couldn't we do what like the smaller contributing countries are already doing in Iraq/Afghanistan, in Iran if military action is taken? To me, that would seem the best way to go about it as far as getting support from the public for the US to get involved.
Thank god the French has committed their Air Force, here's a pic,LOL
Denny
03-29-2007, 10:24 AM
Yeah I noticed. :rolleyes: But what do ya think bout the goin in but as us not being the main driving force, just there like how poland is in Iraq/Afghanistan? Think it would actually fly or we'd wanna take the reins and lead the shit?
We are the world's only proactive nation and we're not even good at it. Everyone else just follows. No charges have been led by anyone except the US since WWII and we ended up bailing most of them out.
636ryder
03-29-2007, 10:27 AM
We are the world's only proactive nation and we're not even good at it. Everyone else just follows. No charges have been led by anyone except the US since WWII and we ended up bailing most of them out.
Im tellin ya...pullout of Germany let them build up the ol reich again and voila we'll be good to go. :D :p Look at it this way, they've been destroyed twice and both times bounced back to be the #1 power in Europe...might as well let them have it.
Denny
03-29-2007, 10:32 AM
Im tellin ya...pullout of Germany let them build up the ol reich again and voila we'll be good to go. :D :p Look at it this way, they've been destroyed twice and both times bounced back to be the #1 power in Europe...might as well let them have it.
Europe isn't worth it anymore.
Stang Seller
03-29-2007, 10:35 AM
We are the world's only provocative nation and we're not even good at it. Everyone else just follows. No charges have been led by anyone except the US since WWII and we ended up bailing most of them out.
Fixed.
Honestly, get over yourselves. You're not the world police, Team America. All the "charges" led by America since WWII have back fired. Vietnam, Iraq x2, Korea.... where are the wins??? I guess Afghanistan could be considered a win, but when you're fighting people with no real tactics and old ass AK47s that's not really a big achievement. So, what has America done in 50 years of "World Police"???? Go on, talk about the "cold war" :rolleyes:
SS
Denny
03-29-2007, 10:38 AM
Fixed.
Honestly, get over yourselves. You're not the world police, Team America. All the "charges" led by America since WWII have back fired. Vietnam, Iraq x2, Korea.... where are the wins??? I guess Afghanistan could be considered a win, but when you're fighting people with no real tactics and old ass AK47s that's not really a big achievement. So, what has America done in 50 years of "World Police"???? Go on, talk about the "cold war" :rolleyes:
SS
You're not asking the right question. What has America PREVENTED in the last 50 years? The possibilites for the answer is endless. What has a badass country like Iran given this world? Don't post that chain letter email shit. I already called you on that in the other thread.
Go fuck yourself... again.
636ryder
03-29-2007, 10:48 AM
Fixed.
Honestly, get over yourselves. You're not the world police, Team America. All the "charges" led by America since WWII have back fired. Vietnam, Iraq x2, Korea.... where are the wins??? I guess Afghanistan could be considered a win, but when you're fighting people with no real tactics and old ass AK47s that's not really a big achievement. So, what has America done in 50 years of "World Police"???? Go on, talk about the "cold war" :rolleyes:
SS
Wow! You have really done your homework haven't you? I honestly don't know where to start. Ok lets see here...we'll go with korea. We beat that shit like a horse banging a cat! However, when china got involved we then pulled outta there cause we weren't about to go down that road nor are we willing to do so now so STFU on that one!
Ok, round 2...vietnam which has similiarities to what were doing now. Many upon many analysists say had we stayed there 4-6 more months we would have come out as official victors. Im not even going to explain how, look it up your damn self!
Round 3 the 1st Iraq war...are you fucking kidding me?!? How many days did it take? What was left? How hard was the 2nd invasion? O...ok thank you those answers should answer what I posed. As for the current situation, were not in there to kill whoever has a gun, like say WWI or WWII or heck even Korea/Vietnam. Were trying to do something from the ground up pretty much by ourselves.
Finally round 4, Afghanistan. You don't count it cause our enemy was outdated...what fucking crock of shit is that?!? Look at history, many people lost wars because of them being technologically outdated...not their fault, but hey it happened. However you don't see them bitchin out sayin " o well if we had..." yea STFU ya lost.
Zarathustra
03-29-2007, 10:55 AM
Too bad you and your family are too chickenshit to help make that happen.
you know, you really are an ignorant waste. You continue to spew your uneducated unbacked banter all over this board, will you ever find something better to do? Do most of society--and the gene pool-- a favor and curl up in a ball somewhere and off yourself with a spoon, you waste of sperm. Even if this guy is intellectually trying to offer up some sort of intelligent solution to this problem happening overseas, and you can do nothing but blurt out some childish ignorant banter. You know it's so typical of neo-con cunts like you, too much angst to form intelligent thought.
636ryder
03-29-2007, 11:07 AM
you know, you really are an ignorant waste. You continue to spew your uneducated unbacked banter all over this board, will you ever find something better to do? Do most of society--and the gene pool-- a favor and curl up in a ball somewhere and off yourself with a spoon, you waste of sperm. Even if this guy is intellectually trying to offer up some sort of intelligent solution to this problem happening overseas, and you can do nothing but blurt out some childish ignorant banter. You know it's so typical of neo-con cunts like you, too much angst to form intelligent thought.
Yes and no. He has a point. Granted it may come across as uncalled for in this instance. I know personally 4 people I went to HS with whose family is rather wealthy. Ironically they're jewish. Point is...once your 18 you have to enlist and serve. Well they came over here and...just decided to stay. They didn't want to serve, they like it over here. However if you insult him, his people or his country he'd get hella pissed and start speaking shit I can't understand, I know...I did it when I called him out on staying here. All of this story proves Tbird's point though, if your gonna say that you stand up for something and your actions are the opposite...
Denny
03-29-2007, 11:46 AM
you know, you really are an ignorant waste. You continue to spew your uneducated unbacked banter all over this board, will you ever find something better to do? Do most of society--and the gene pool-- a favor and curl up in a ball somewhere and off yourself with a spoon, you waste of sperm. Even if this guy is intellectually trying to offer up some sort of intelligent solution to this problem happening overseas, and you can do nothing but blurt out some childish ignorant banter. You know it's so typical of neo-con cunts like you, too much angst to form intelligent thought.
You sure you've got the right guy, there? The guy you're quoting has more intellectual posts than just about anyone here. If you've read anything on the guy he's talking to, then you know why he posted what he did. Don't jump in and act like you know what you're talking about, if, in fact, you don't. I haven't seen any input from you on the subject, so are you a waste of sperm too?
exlude
03-29-2007, 12:56 PM
Stennis and Eisenhower also finished a nice show of power during some maneuvers this Wednesday.
black01gt
03-29-2007, 07:52 PM
Ya, just like Iraq? :rolleyes: You know, I was once a supporter of that cause. I thought how great it would be to take out Saddam's regime and help Iraq build itself to its full potential. Hell, I even went out there to assist. I have since come to reality that the Iraqis, like most of the other Middle East, are nothing but savage dirtbags that either need to be eliminated or just stand back and eliminate themselves.
:eek:
Great post! I might add tho that we should make the message clear (and make it stick this time)..."enjoy your self jihad :D , but if you cross this ocean like those "other guys" what happens to you and your fellow camel fuckers will be damned astounding! Now sell some oil and clean up this mess. We got rid of shithead for ya, now you're on your own."
Casper
03-29-2007, 08:13 PM
:eek:
Great post! I might add tho that we should make the message clear (and make it stick this time)..."enjoy your self jihad :D , but if you cross this ocean again what happens to you and your fellow camel fuckers will be damned astounding! Now sell some oil and clean up this mess. We got rid of shithead for ya, now you're on your own."
I think it is wrong to draw borders based on 19th century concepts. I'm more of a "wolf in the back yard, skin it and wear it" type of person.
I want the oil and the position. I want the base to conquer from. I want to be feared and hated, bowed to and avoided. I'd like to see a new generation of fusion products used as a demonstration of just how monstrous and unforgiving my vote can be. I want to subjugate whole solar systems, and a few million infidels mean nothing to me, age, sex or mental capacity.
There is the left wing like yourself who doesn't want unnecessary war, and the right wing like myself who feels that war is never unnecessary. Most of this board is in between. Congratulations, my radicalism just made you a radical :D :D
Denny
03-30-2007, 06:26 AM
:eek:
Great post! I might add tho that we should make the message clear (and make it stick this time)..."enjoy your self jihad :D , but if you cross this ocean like those "other guys" what happens to you and your fellow camel fuckers will be damned astounding! Now sell some oil and clean up this mess. We got rid of shithead for ya, now you're on your own."
I had to restart my computer when I saw this! I thought the wrong user name was being put in different posts. LOL
There just might be some hope for you yet ;)
ALLAN
03-30-2007, 06:46 AM
I think it is wrong to draw borders based on 19th century concepts. I'm more of a "wolf in the back yard, skin it and wear it" type of person.
I want the oil and the position. I want the base to conquer from. I want to be feared and hated, bowed to and avoided. I'd like to see a new generation of fusion products used as a demonstration of just how monstrous and unforgiving my vote can be. I want to subjugate whole solar systems, and a few million infidels mean nothing to me, age, sex or mental capacity.
There is the left wing like yourself who doesn't want unnecessary war, and the right wing like myself who feels that war is never unnecessary. Most of this board is in between. Congratulations, my radicalism just made you a radical :D :D
canned sunshine? :cool:
Stang Seller
03-30-2007, 08:48 AM
Yes and no. He has a point. Granted it may come across as uncalled for in this instance. I know personally 4 people I went to HS with whose family is rather wealthy. Ironically they're jewish. Point is...once your 18 you have to enlist and serve. Well they came over here and...just decided to stay. They didn't want to serve, they like it over here. However if you insult him, his people or his country he'd get hella pissed and start speaking shit I can't understand, I know...I did it when I called him out on staying here. All of this story proves Tbird's point though, if your gonna say that you stand up for something and your actions are the opposite...
Seeing as you know jack shit about me, I don't understand how you can sit there and say that my family and I are doing nothing about it. So..... you nor your buddy Tbird have proven anything! You called who out on staying where? I don't live in the US. And if I did, I'd be laughing at you like your Israeli friends who are here to exploit your country financially AND politically for their own country's benefit. But thats ok, because they're your buddies and you like the Jews but not the Muslims. It's funny, you guys never seem to rebutt any of these comments yet you think you've won every other "debate".
You're not asking the right question. What has America PREVENTED in the last 50 years? The possibilites for the answer is endless. What has a badass country like Iran given this world? Don't post that chain letter email shit. I already called you on that in the other thread.
Go fuck yourself... again.
And what did you call me on in the other thread? Was it you who claimed they were Mayan accomplishments or something? I have yet to see proof otherwise, just because you say the earth is flat doesn't mean you called me out on anything. Where's the proof superstar? What has America prevented? I dunno, you tell me. The only thing I can think of is Communism. It certainly hasn't cleaned up the mess it left behind when they destroyed the Iraqi tanks using depleted Uranium shells. And you wonder why the rest of the world hates you?
SS
Denny
03-30-2007, 08:53 AM
And what did you call me on in the other thread? Was it you who claimed they were Mayan accomplishments or something? I have yet to see proof otherwise, just because you say the earth is flat doesn't mean you called me out on anything. Where's the proof superstar? What has America prevented? I dunno, you tell me. The only thing I can think of is Communism. It certainly hasn't cleaned up the mess it left behind when they destroyed the Iraqi tanks using depleted Uranium shells. And you wonder why the rest of the world hates you?
SS
Mayan?!?! BABYLONIAN, dumbass!I never said it was or wasn't. I only stated that the claims came from Babylon loooong before you Persian shitbags tried to claim anything. I also posted where it was word for word stated on two different websites. One claiming Iraqi and the other claiming Iranian. The rest of the world hates the US because we won't let them run-a-muck like the savages you are.
Once again, go fuck yourself.
exlude
03-30-2007, 09:46 AM
I find it funny that an Iranian is talking about who hates who.
636ryder
03-30-2007, 10:27 AM
You called who out on staying where? I don't live in the US. And if I did, I'd be laughing at you like your Israeli friends who are here to exploit your country financially AND politically for their own country's benefit. But thats ok, because they're your buddies and you like the Jews but not the Muslims. It's funny, you guys never seem to rebutt any of these comments yet you think you've won every other "debate".
Learn to address the points accordingly for christ sakes! I called the jew who is not my friend at all out on being a pussy and failing to do what is asked of him by serving his country. I don't lack the ability to see why he wouldn't want to do it, but you can't cheat the system and then try and defend yourself when your actions speak louder than your words.
As for him cheating my country financially...well lets see here, his family is filthly fuckin rich so im sure he has insurance unlike many upon many illegal immigrants. As for politically fucking over the US or Israel...I also fail to see how he would be accomplishing that since he most likely had his family buy out his military service to Israel so if anything he helped finance some killing of palestinians.
About your comment on me failing to rebutt what you say, go back to page 1 dipshit...I didn't see you attempt to refute what I had to say on there. Im also 100% sure you can't refute what I have typed above since you don't know the jew in question and you've run off to canada.
46Tbird
03-30-2007, 10:29 AM
you know, you really are an ignorant waste. You continue to spew your uneducated unbacked banter all over this board, will you ever find something better to do? Do most of society--and the gene pool-- a favor and curl up in a ball somewhere and off yourself with a spoon, you waste of sperm. Even if this guy is intellectually trying to offer up some sort of intelligent solution to this problem happening overseas, and you can do nothing but blurt out some childish ignorant banter. You know it's so typical of neo-con cunts like you, too much angst to form intelligent thought.Hahahaaa.
It's okay fellas, I have called this dummy out before too. Hell, I can't even remember what it was. I just remember him being a goon, getting called on it, and then responding ... well, about like this above.
Neo-cunt.. hahahaaa. Dude, do you know what the fuck you're even talking about? This Stang Seller guy HATES America. Ask him, he'll tell you. He ran like a coward under momma and daddy's wing from his home in Iran, straight to Canada. And he talks shit to us from there. I guess he's your hero? Fucking dipshit...
98COBRA#770
03-30-2007, 10:50 AM
In the simplest terms with out the US over the past 60 or so years Canada
must ask would they be speaking German or Russian.
Casper
03-30-2007, 11:56 AM
And what did you call me on in the other thread? Was it you who claimed they were Mayan accomplishments or something? I have yet to see proof otherwise
No, I asked you where your zero came from, seeing as how MAYANs already had the concept. They also had a better understanding of precession than anyone until the 17th century, with the Phoneocians a close second. Their precessional model still works today. Phoenecians created a precessional model which allowed them to calculate longitude, there was no other until much later. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the earth, and that came from Egyptian and Phoenecian knowledge, purely mediterranian.
Denny
03-30-2007, 11:57 AM
No, I asked you where your zero came from, seeing as how MAYANs already had the concept. They also had a better understanding of precession than anyone until the 17th century, with the Phoneocians a close second. Their precessional model still works today. Phoenecians created a precessional model which allowed them to calculate longitude, there was no other until much later. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the earth, and that came from Egyptian and Phoenecian knowledge, purely mediterranian.
Ya, but look at the rugs the Persians have given the world!
Casper
03-30-2007, 12:10 PM
Can't say I've ever experienced persian carpet before. I'm sure its good and tight with very little used surface area.
Stang Seller
03-30-2007, 12:52 PM
He ran like a coward under momma and daddy's wing from his home in Iran, straight to Canada. And he talks shit to us from there. I guess he's your hero? Fucking dipshit...
You forgot the part where I lived in Germany for 8 years.
SS
98COBRA#770
03-30-2007, 01:22 PM
Lived or deployed?
Casper
03-30-2007, 01:23 PM
Lived or deployed?
Hid from the anti-communists.
98COBRA#770
03-30-2007, 02:29 PM
It really burns my ass for some one who has not got the guts to put his life
on the line (aka do his duty) judge the one's that do.
I don't claim to be a know it all but I do understand honor, valor and duty. I carried
a M16A3 for 5 years to keep your (French'ee) ass free. You have the right to
voice your views because of your location. For you to bad mouth the US proves
your spoiled.
Canada knows the US will never let anything happen to it because it borders
the US.
Oh yea I'm a redneck I love my country a gear head (you know you are on a
car/mustang forum not the Harvard debate site) and even I can see your
wrong.
Hate the US all you want but buddy here a news flash if we go down you go down
that's the truth.
Your the smart one right look up history and check how your French military
handles invasion. What makes you think your so almighty that you can
judge what we have the guts to do? Right or wrong we try to make the
world better (yes for us but that would include you as well) the middle
east has been at war for ever. If we leave they fight each other Iran
& Iraq war example. Who cares who fires the first shot there will be
blood shed no matter what.
rant off
Oh if you flame me for my grammer or spelling FO.
black01gt
04-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Can't say I've ever experienced persian carpet before. I'm sure its good and tight with very little used surface area.
No shit! Hell, her face hasn't even been looked at. :D
Stang Seller
04-01-2007, 05:28 PM
It really burns my ass for some one who has not got the guts to put his life
on the line (aka do his duty) judge the one's that do.
I put my life on the line everytime I jump in my American Muscle car.
I don't claim to be a know it all but I do understand honor, valor and duty. I carried
a M16A3 for 5 years to keep your (French'ee) ass free. You have the right to
voice your views because of your location. For you to bad mouth the US proves
your spoiled.
Where do you get the idea that I'm a frenchie? I have the right to voice my opinion because millions of IMMIGRANTS before me fought for that right.
Canada knows the US will never let anything happen to it because it borders the US. [
Yes, and thats because you need Canada as much as Canada needs you. And don't give me that "oh yeah, we should just take you over" crap.
Oh yea I'm a redneck I love my country a gear head (you know you are on a
car/mustang forum not the Harvard debate site) and even I can see your
wrong.
I like the US too, I just dont like the idiots its full of.
Hate the US all you want but buddy here a news flash if we go down you go down that's the truth.
Nope, I can just relocate back to Germany or Iran.
Your the smart one right look up history and check how your French military
handles invasion. What makes you think your so almighty that you can
judge what we have the guts to do? Right or wrong we try to make the
world better (yes for us but that would include you as well) the middle
east has been at war for ever. If we leave they fight each other Iran
& Iraq war example. Who cares who fires the first shot there will be
blood shed no matter what.
rant off
Oh if you flame me for my grammer or spelling FO.
I dont think I'm almight and I'm definitely not french. You obviously need to look up history, you obviously have no fucking clue how the Iran and Iraq started. Once the US helped Khomeini into power, and he turned on them, they decided to help Saddam to beat Khomeini by supplying Saddam with weapons and chemical agents he used on my country. And you wonder why we hate America so much. If you leave? You werent there and you started the god damn war!!!!! I care who the first shot came from, because it always has American fingerprints on the bullet.
SS
aceman85turbo
04-01-2007, 05:52 PM
I put my life on the line everytime I jump in my American Muscle car.
Where do you get the idea that I'm a frenchie? I have the right to voice my opinion because millions of IMMIGRANTS before me fought for that right.
Yes, and thats because you need Canada as much as Canada needs you. And don't give me that "oh yeah, we should just take you over" crap.
I like the US too, I just dont like the idiots its full of.
Nope, I can just relocate back to Germany or Iran.
I dont think I'm almight and I'm definitely not french. You obviously need to look up history, you obviously have no fucking clue how the Iran and Iraq started. Once the US helped Khomeini into power, and he turned on them, they decided to help Saddam to beat Khomeini by supplying Saddam with weapons and chemical agents he used on my country. And you wonder why we hate America so much. If you leave? You werent there and you started the god damn war!!!!! I care who the first shot came from, because it always has American fingerprints on the bullet.
SS
so instead of defend whats potentially yours you will run back to germany/hole where iran was?
thought so.
forever_frost
04-02-2007, 12:46 AM
I wonder if he realizes this is a Dallas/Ft. Worth, Texas, USA site..... Don't love America....fuck off. I took a bullet in the head for that flag.
Walsted
04-02-2007, 05:59 AM
It really burns my ass for some one who has not got the guts to put his life
on the line (aka do his duty) judge the one's that do.
I put my life on the line everytime I jump in my American Muscle car.
Getting in a muscle car is not putting ones life on the line in the same way as being a member of any country's military, law enforcement, or similar job. Whether you believe it was called for or not, equating it as such is extremely insulting to those of us who have actually served in the military, as law enforcement, or in fire or emergency services, and does not help your case nor credibility. People don't actually try to kill you for driving a muscle car, and driving one serves no greater public good. It is not your job, nor your duty.
You owe a lot of people an apology for that one.
Edit - change countries to country's
exlude
04-02-2007, 09:58 AM
I put my life on the line everytime I jump in my American Muscle car.
LMFAO!!!
Yes, and thats because you need Canada as much as Canada needs you. And don't give me that "oh yeah, we should just take you over" crap.
LMFAO again!! Although this one isn't as good as the one above.
I like the US too, I just dont like the idiots its full of.
...
And you wonder why we hate America so much.
:rolleyes:
I wish I was Iranian so I could have an excuse to be as dumb as Stang Seller. Way to go Ahmad!
Denny
04-02-2007, 11:21 AM
I wish I was Iranian so I could have an excuse to be as dumb as Stang Seller. Way to go Ahmad!
I wouldn't wish that on anyone, especially now.
mikeb
04-02-2007, 12:33 PM
You obviously need to look up history, you obviously have no fucking clue how the Iran and Iraq started. Once the US helped Khomeini into power, and he turned on them, they decided to help Saddam to beat Khomeini by supplying Saddam with weapons and chemical agents he used on my country. And you wonder why we hate America so much. If you leave? You werent there and you started the god damn war!!!!! I care who the first shot came from, because it always has American fingerprints on the bullet.
SS
According to this the conflict started as a class war long before the US came to be.
For much of Iraqi history, the Shias have been both politically impotent and economically depressed. Beginning in the sixteenth century, when the Ottoman Sunnis favored their Iraqi coreligionists in the matter of educational and employment opportunities, the Shias consistently have been denied political power. Thus, although the Shias constitute more then 50 percent of the population, they occupy a relatively insignificant number of government posts. On the economic level, aside from a small number of wealthy landowners and merchants, the Shias historically were exploited as sharecropping peasants or menially employed slum dwellers.
It was the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran, however, that transformed Shia dissatisfaction with the Baath into an organized religiously based opposition
The principal events that touched off the rapid deterioration in relations occurred during the spring of 1980. In April the Iranian-supported Ad Dawah attempted to assassinate Iraqi foreign minister Tariq Aziz.
http://historymedren.about.com/library/text/bltxtiraq14.htm
It is always easier to blame someone else for your problems rather than taking personal responsibility. IE, it is always the fault of the U.S. government that some asshole in Iran takes a wad of cash to sell out his countrymen.
Stang Seller should move to New Orleans, it sounds like he is great at pointing fingers and wearing his tinfoil dunce hat.
I hope the US manages to do this without launching a military strike, but somehow finds a way to cripple the Islamic Regime and the Revolutionary Guard. If the US launches a military strike, theres gonna be some trouble for everyone. I really don't think it will be as easy as you boys seem to think. If the US manages to cripple the regime, then the people can hopefully be allowed to put together their own government. The Iranian people are ready for a change. But, if the US goes and does something stupid again then we're all in big shit.
SS
Interesting how the people are ready for a change and won't do shit. Maybe they should move to Canada.
Casper
04-02-2007, 02:04 PM
LOL @ khomeini being a US agent.
LOL @ khomeini being a US agent.
Some of this shit is so stupid that it is almost painful to read.
Fox466
04-02-2007, 07:45 PM
His muscle car statement was meant as a dig on quality. Yet he evidently bought one. And wishes to flip Mustangs in California, one of the most restrictive states in the union.
The hypocracy and ignorance is everywhere with this guy...
01WhiteCobra
04-02-2007, 09:35 PM
Once the US helped Khomeini into power...
SS
Exactly how did we do that? We liked the Shah, he was trying to westernize you backward fucks.
His muscle car statement was meant as a dig on quality. Yet he evidently bought one. And wishes to flip Mustangs in California, one of the most restrictive states in the union.
The hypocracy and ignorance is everywhere with this guy...
I'll bet you he chases parked cars too.
Stang Seller
04-02-2007, 09:44 PM
His muscle car statement was meant as a dig on quality. Yet he evidently bought one. And wishes to flip Mustangs in California, one of the most restrictive states in the union.
The hypocracy and ignorance is everywhere with this guy...
Wow, you're such a moron. Stop trying to read between the lines, I've owned 28 Mustangs to date. You guys just dont get it. That has got to be among the most ridiculous assumptions to date, and you're among the elite of making dumbass assumptions.
01WhiteCobra, you have no idea what your gov does behind closed doors. I'm so sure you knew all about the weapons sales to Iraq before they were made public in the late '90s :rolleyes: Most of you fools still arent aware of what happened in Iran in '53. You all sit there behind your computer screens, adamantly agreeing with each other believing full well that you cannot possibly be wrong or misinformed. Oh why do I bother? Sometimes it's fun, maybe today I'm just too tired to revel in your idiocy.
SS
exlude
04-02-2007, 09:46 PM
And there is more shit spewed without sustenance.
/cry
01WhiteCobra
04-02-2007, 09:52 PM
01WhiteCobra, you have no idea what your gov does behind closed doors. I'm so sure you knew all about the weapons sales to Iraq before they were made public in the late '90s :rolleyes: Most of you fools still arent aware of what happened in Iran in '53. You all sit there behind your computer screens, adamantly agreeing with each other believing full well that you cannot possibly be wrong or misinformed. Oh why do I bother? Sometimes it's fun, maybe today I'm just too tired to revel in your idiocy.
SS
LMAO. So... you can't tell me.
Jesus (not Allah) you are the dumbest fucking Iranian I've ever met. That's saying alot because I've met a bunch of dumb fucking Iranians.
Fox466
04-02-2007, 10:00 PM
Wow, you're such a moron. Stop trying to read between the lines, I've owned 28 Mustangs to date. You guys just dont get it. That has got to be among the most ridiculous assumptions to date, and you're among the elite of making dumbass assumptions.
SS
Oh do get over yourself you self assured dunderhead. What the hell did you mean by your comment? Seriously? Are you that poor a driver that simply climbing behind the wheel translates as you risking your life? I would be inclined to believe so, as you have been shown as nothing more than a little bitch (this, you dolt, is a dig on you implying that you drive like a woman) numerous times by those who have chosen to engage you in dialogue. If that's what it can be called, as much of your tripe is little more than regurgitated fallacy. Your recent thread on the border conflict springs to mind. You yourself scoffed at your own sources.
It's truly unbelievable the level of incompetence that you display at times. And laughable to the utmost extremes in that you sit behind your keyboard, patting yourself on the back when you think that you have once again triumphed over those dumbasses down in Texas, when in reality you have presented yourself yet again as one of the biggest idiots to ever grace our board and are simply too damned ignorant to realize it.
That is the true beauty of it all, you imbecilic jackass.
636ryder
04-02-2007, 10:16 PM
Oh do get over yourself you self assured dunderhead. What the hell did you mean by your comment? Seriously? Are you that poor a driver that simply climbing behind the wheel translates as you risking your life? I would be inclined to believe so, as you have been shown as nothing more than a little bitch (this, you dolt, is a dig on you implying that you drive like a woman) numerous times by those who have chosen to engage you in dialogue. If that's what it can be called, as much of your tripe is little more than regurgitated fallacy. Your recent thread on the border conflict springs to mind. You yourself scoffed at your own sources.
It's truly unbelievable the level of incompetence that you display at times. And laughable to the utmost extremes in that you sit behind your keyboard, patting yourself on the back when you think that you have once again triumphed over those dumbasses down in Texas, when in reality you have presented yourself yet again as one of the biggest idiots to ever grace our board and are simply too damned ignorant to realize it.
That is the true beauty of it all, you imbecilic jackass.
Im curious as to how old this genius is. I mean lets see here given the purported facts we have. 8 years in germany and now in canada. So his age would range from at the youngest of 26 to hell up to whatever. My point being is this...he acts as if he knows all trying to site reference material as early as 53. Given that and the probability he's not 54 he's spewing the heresay of his fucking Gov't. Never really has any facts just says " you westerners think you know so much". :rolleyes:
Fox466
04-02-2007, 10:50 PM
Im curious as to how old this genius is. I mean lets see here given the purported facts we have. 8 years in germany and now in canada. So his age would range from at the youngest of 26 to hell up to whatever. My point being is this...he acts as if he knows all trying to site reference material as early as 53. Given that and the probability he's not 54 he's spewing the heresay of his fucking Gov't. Never really has any facts just says " you westerners think you know so much". :rolleyes:
I figure he's the iranian version of whiteboy. They've both owned around 30 Mustangs and think they are the shit. Only this guy truly is stupied...
Stevo
04-02-2007, 11:40 PM
you have no idea what your gov does behind closed doors
Oh, this is rich, an iranian that thinks he knows more about what the American government does in private than the actual citizens. I want to thank you hogchow, I needed a good laugh.
Stevo
Wow, you're such a moron. Stop trying to read between the lines, I've owned 28 Mustangs to date. You guys just dont get it. That has got to be among the most ridiculous assumptions to date, and you're among the elite of making dumbass assumptions.
01WhiteCobra, you have no idea what your gov does behind closed doors. I'm so sure you knew all about the weapons sales to Iraq before they were made public in the late '90s :rolleyes: Most of you fools still arent aware of what happened in Iran in '53. You all sit there behind your computer screens, adamantly agreeing with each other believing full well that you cannot possibly be wrong or misinformed. Oh why do I bother? Sometimes it's fun, maybe today I'm just too tired to revel in your idiocy.
SS
Like I said, keep blaming Iran's problems on someone else, you sound just like your relatives. Hell you might as well go back to your fun loving country that is paradise on earth. OOOPS I forgot, you might get your head chopped off. Better to hide under your bed in Canada or Kalifornia and lecture us about how you have everything figured out and we are all mistaken about the peace loving people of Iran who are currently developing nuclear weapons in clear violation of a treaty they signed saying they wouldn't.
Shaithis
04-03-2007, 01:23 AM
I figure he's the iranian version of whiteboy. They've both owned around 30 Mustangs and think they are the shit. Only this guy truly is stupied...
I'd like to know if his ip really is from canada. Something in the back of my mind says Oso has something to do with this.
Denny
04-03-2007, 06:10 AM
01WhiteCobra, you have no idea what your gov does behind closed doors.
Of course he doesn't. That's why he gets on this message board to read the brilliant Can-iranian posts. Because we all know that you know what the fuck you're talking about :rolleyes:
98COBRA#770
04-03-2007, 12:54 PM
Notice the airport!
https://secure.afa.net/afa/activism/welcome_hero.asp
Can I get a big Hell yea!
Zarathustra
04-04-2007, 02:07 PM
StangSeller. We're beating a dead horse in here, the ignorant people that spill their opinions in here will never see things as they really are. They're too busy trying to compensate in their adult lives for what their parents could not give them as children. Be it they were poor, indigent, ill, or just plain fucking stupid, they did a really horrible job instilling in their children what would come to be good moral standing and judgment in this, our 21st century. The people on this board are just as ignorant as the god damn arabs, ironically enough.
46Tbird
04-04-2007, 02:11 PM
StangSeller. We're beating a dead horse in here, the ignorant people that spill their opinions in here will never see things as they really are. They're too busy trying to compensate in their adult lives for what their parents could not give them as children. Be it they were poor, indigent, ill, or just plain fucking stupid, they did a really horrible job instilling in their children what would come to be good moral standing and judgment in this, our 21st century. The people on this board are just as ignorant as the god damn arabs, ironically enough.
LMGDAO!!!!!!!
StangSeller. We're beating a dead horse in here, the ignorant people that spill their opinions in here will never see things as they really are. They're too busy trying to compensate in their adult lives for what their parents could not give them as children. Be it they were poor, indigent, ill, or just plain fucking stupid, they did a really horrible job instilling in their children what would come to be good moral standing and judgment in this, our 21st century. The people on this board are just as ignorant as the god damn arabs, ironically enough.
You talk about parents and how they haven't instilled us with great values. Have you ever thought that maybe it is YOU who has the issue and that perhaps it is YOUR parents that haven't filled your head with the proper values? Isn't your family the one that couldn't wait to jump on a boat and trek on over to "The Great Satan"? If Iran is so great and the people in America suck so bad, why aren't you there at this very moment? Essentially you and Stang Seller are exactly the same. Your parents have filled your heads with these romantic ideas of how great Iran is, how the United States is to blame for 90% of Iran's problems, how people here can't think for themselves, etc ad nauseum. Ask yourself, or hell, better yet...ASK THEM.... why they moved here if all that is true?
Casper
04-04-2007, 02:50 PM
No he's right. This place sucks so bad I hope they never have to live here and endure what we've had to endure. Its just awful i tell ya...
If a certain nation's foreign policy were to blame for most of your home's ills why in the hell would you move there??
That makes absolutely no sense unless you are just a chickenshit trying to explain away your chickenshittery. Wait, I think I am on to something....
Denny
04-04-2007, 03:13 PM
StangSeller. We're beating a dead horse in here, the ignorant people that spill their opinions in here will never see things as they really are. They're too busy trying to compensate in their adult lives for what their parents could not give them as children. Be it they were poor, indigent, ill, or just plain fucking stupid, they did a really horrible job instilling in their children what would come to be good moral standing and judgment in this, our 21st century. The people on this board are just as ignorant as the god damn arabs, ironically enough.
After posting this, nothing you say on here from here on out will ever be taken seriously. Of all the tools on this site, you sir are the Snap-On!
01WhiteCobra
04-04-2007, 03:15 PM
StangSeller. We're beating a dead horse in here, the ignorant people that spill their opinions in here will never see things as they really are. They're too busy trying to compensate in their adult lives for what their parents could not give them as children. Be it they were poor, indigent, ill, or just plain fucking stupid, they did a really horrible job instilling in their children what would come to be good moral standing and judgment in this, our 21st century. The people on this board are just as ignorant as the god damn arabs, ironically enough.
LMAO.
I guess I need to go home and kick my parent's ass for fucking me up so bad.
LMAO.
I guess I need to go home and kick my parent's ass for fucking me up so bad.
See....you live with your parents. Failure.
On a side note, I think DUMBASSLXHB302 really does live with his parents.
Denny
04-04-2007, 03:46 PM
See....you live with your parents. Failure.
On a side note, I think DUMBASSLXHB302 really does live with his parents.
And I bet anything that he thanks them for the way they raised him (while he's engaging in a threesome with them).
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 09:24 AM
Just as I thought you stupid mother fuckers would do, jump back in here and bash me for having an opinion. Good job dfwstangs veterans, you guys are awesome. You know nothing of me, I do not live with my parents, fuckstains. Al, practice what you preach. Denny, go fuck yourself, cunt. And 01WhiteCobra--disregard the preceding comments, they were directed away from you, just these other ignorant inbred mother fuckers.
Just as I thought you stupid mother fuckers would do, jump back in here and bash me for having an opinion. Good job dfwstangs veterans, you guys are awesome. You know nothing of me, I do not live with my parents, fuckstains. Al, practice what you preach. Denny, go fuck yourself, cunt. And 01WhiteCobra--disregard the preceding comments, they were directed away from you, just these other ignorant inbred mother fuckers.
Practice what I preach? Should I ask my dad why he moved here from Iran? I don't know if you know this but I'm not Iranian, you fucking dipshit. Maybe you are upset because you did ask him and didn't like the answer you got. Or maybe he got mad and grounded you from your camel for the next two weeks. LMGDAO!!!
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 09:29 AM
After posting this, nothing you say on here from here on out will ever be taken seriously. Of all the tools on this site, you sir are the Snap-On!
Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself, darling? And the almighty Denny says that nothing I say will ever be taken seriously, is that right now? Nothing ANYONE says on this site is EVER taken seriously, dumbass. hahahahahahaha come talk all this shit to my face and there's no doubt in my mind you wouldn't be so bold and brave with a big iranian in your grill. Bring it, cunt.
01WhiteCobra
04-05-2007, 09:29 AM
Just as I thought you stupid mother fuckers would do, jump back in here and bash me for having an opinion. Good job dfwstangs veterans, you guys are awesome. You know nothing of me, I do not live with my parents, fuckstains. Al, practice what you preach. Denny, go fuck yourself, cunt. And 01WhiteCobra--disregard the preceding comments, they were directed away from you, just these other ignorant inbred mother fuckers.
Good, I didn't want to have to go down to Houston and kick my dad's ass. :D
Jester
04-05-2007, 09:32 AM
Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself, darling? And the almighty Denny says that nothing I say will ever be taken seriously, is that right now? Nothing ANYONE says on this site is EVER taken seriously, dumbass. hahahahahahaha come talk all this shit to my face and there's no doubt in my mind you wouldn't be so bold and brave with a big iranian in your grill. Bring it, cunt.
Are you a Muslim?
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 09:33 AM
Practice what I preach? Should I ask my dad why he moved here from Iran? I don't know if you know this but I'm not Iranian, you fucking dipshit. Maybe you are upset because you did ask him and didn't like the answer you got. Or maybe he got mad and grounded you from your camel for the next two weeks. LMGDAO!!!
The first part of that post is what I was referring to. My dad moved here to go to school, smart guy. He's got no angst man, many iranians don't. Many of the people in Iran heavily disagree with what Ahmadinejad thinks and are against their current foreign policy. So without childish racial epitaphs, please sir, your rebuttal?
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 09:36 AM
Are you a Muslim?
No, why would you ask that? Are my RADICAL and FUNDAMENTALIST comments strike you as maybe a follower of Allah? Am I a muslim? What kind of question is that? What if I was? Would your perception be accurate?
Casper
04-05-2007, 09:38 AM
Fuck em anyways?
Jester
04-05-2007, 09:44 AM
No, why would you ask that? Are my RADICAL and FUNDAMENTALIST comments strike you as maybe a follower of Allah? Am I a muslim? What kind of question is that? What if I was? Would your perception be accurate?
Simple question, dickhead. Why are you such a pussy when someone asks you a question? Sounds like you are hiding something to me. No one died when Clinton lied? Tell that to the families of all 3198 soldiers that during his first 4 years in office.
You are just another mouthy fucking dipshit who's mother should have just taken it in the ass that crackrock induced sex night.
Picking a fight with Denny or Al P is just gonna get your ass monkey stomped and your eyes pissed in.
Take your ass back to California, faggot.
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 09:44 AM
You talk about parents and how they haven't instilled us with great values. Have you ever thought that maybe it is YOU who has the issue and that perhaps it is YOUR parents that haven't filled your head with the proper values? Isn't your family the one that couldn't wait to jump on a boat and trek on over to "The Great Satan"? If Iran is so great and the people in America suck so bad, why aren't you there at this very moment? Essentially you and Stang Seller are exactly the same. Your parents have filled your heads with these romantic ideas of how great Iran is, how the United States is to blame for 90% of Iran's problems, how people here can't think for themselves, etc ad nauseum. Ask yourself, or hell, better yet...ASK THEM.... why they moved here if all that is true?
I never said anything about America "sucking so bad" Both my parents came here for a reason. Just like the MILLIONS did before them, and the MILLIONS that will come after. Your ancestry were also immigrants, just like mine. People move around the earth man, that's what we humans do. My father left Iran before the shah was ousted, to go to school. Not bash americans or hate anyone. Aside from being a staunch democrat, I think you guys might actually get along. The Iranian people are a very loving, hospitable, and peace-loving society, unlike the ARABS. Iranian people will scoff at being referred to as or even being associated with the arab people. You guys just don't understand man, Iranian people are more Aryan than most "white" people are.
The first part of that post is what I was referring to. My dad moved here to go to school, smart guy. He's got no angst man, many iranians don't. Many of the people in Iran heavily disagree with what Ahmadinejad thinks and are against their current foreign policy. So without childish racial epitaphs, please sir, your rebuttal?
Rebuttal to what? I asked you to ask him why he moved here if he has your attitude about this country. I'm well aware that a lot of Iranians don't like what the current administration is doing and that is beside the point. A lot of Iranians in this country, such as yourself, seem to like to bad mouth it and the people. I'm asking you why are here if it sucks ass.
Jester
04-05-2007, 09:46 AM
I never said anything about America "sucking so bad" Both my parents came here for a reason. Just like the MILLIONS did before them, and the MILLIONS that will come after. Your ancestry were also immigrants, just like mine. People move around the earth man, that's what we humans do. My father left Iran before the shah was ousted, to go to school. Not bash americans or hate anyone. Aside from being a staunch democrat, I think you guys might actually get along. The Iranian people are a very loving, hospitable, and peace-loving society, unlike the ARABS. Iranian people will scoff at being referred to as or even being associated with the arab people. You guys just don't understand man, Iranian people are more Aryan than most "white" people are.
If he was that smart, he wouldn't be a democrat.
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 09:49 AM
Simple question, dickhead. Why are you such a pussy when someone asks you a question? Sounds like you are hiding something to me. No one died when Clinton lied? Tell that to the families of all 3198 soldiers that during his first 4 years in office.
You are just another mouthy fucking dipshit who's mother should have just taken it in the ass that crackrock induced sex night.
Picking a fight with Denny or Al P is just gonna get your ass monkey stomped and your eyes pissed in.
Take your ass back to California, faggot.
How 'bout a little unchecked agression? Easy with the clever cunning insults man, I only aim to provoke thought. Bill Clinton lied on his way out of office man, about getting blown....? I've been to california once man, didn't really like it. If you have any intellectual input, WHATSOEVER please I encourage you, please post up, cuz there was nothing but mindless insults in that last post, buddy.
Jester
04-05-2007, 09:52 AM
How 'bout a little unchecked agression? Easy with the clever cunning insults man, I only aim to provoke thought. Bill Clinton lied on his way out of office man, about getting blown....? I've been to california once man, didn't really like it. If you have any intellectual input, WHATSOEVER please I encourage you, please post up, cuz there was nothing but mindless insults in that last post, buddy.
Why didn't Clinton prevent the second attack on the WTC when the first one happened during his term?
On June 25, 1996, a powerful truck bomb exploded outside the Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, tearing the front from the building, blasting a crater 35 feet deep, and killing 19 American soldiers. Hundreds more were injured. When news reached Washington, President Bill Clinton vowed to bring the killers to justice. "The cowards who committed this murderous act must not go unpunished," he said angrily. "Let me say again: We will pursue this. America takes care of our own. Those who did it must not go unpunished." The next day, leaving the White House to attend an economic summit in France, Clinton had more tough words for the attackers. "Let me be very clear: We will not resist" — the president corrected himself — "we will not rest in our efforts to find who is responsible for this outrage, to pursue them and to punish them."
Why did Clinton lie about saying those that did this would be punished, but did nothing?
I only aim to provoke thought.
What thought was this post supposed to provoke?
Just as I thought you stupid mother fuckers would do, jump back in here and bash me for having an opinion. Good job dfwstangs veterans, you guys are awesome. You know nothing of me, I do not live with my parents, fuckstains. Al, practice what you preach. Denny, go fuck yourself, cunt. And 01WhiteCobra--disregard the preceding comments, they were directed away from you, just these other ignorant inbred mother fuckers.
Jester
04-05-2007, 09:58 AM
February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole all happened under Slick Willy's term...............why were the ones responsible not brought to justice?
9/11 might have been prevented if Bill would have walked the walk that he talked.
46Tbird
04-05-2007, 09:59 AM
What thought was this post supposed to provoke?I think that DFWstangs has one more militant dipshit.
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 10:00 AM
Rebuttal to what? I asked you to ask him why he moved here if he has your attitude about this country. I'm well aware that a lot of Iranians don't like what the current administration is doing and that is beside the point. A lot of Iranians in this country, such as yourself, seem to like to bad mouth it and the people. I'm asking you why are here if it sucks ass.
Well. First off, I was born here. It's really hard to go to Iran even with Iranian parents with all the regulations and visas and what not. People of all races badmouth the government, man. Criticism of government is part of what makes this country what it is, why is there such a problem if an Iranian does it? Why is it so different if an Iranian badmouths the government and than when an Asian person does?? Maybe I'm missing the point... Could you refer to another instance, (off this message board) when you have witnessed first hand an Iranian speaking out against the govt. denouncing his citizenship and/or presence in the States?
46Tbird
04-05-2007, 10:01 AM
Well. First off, I was born here. It's really hard to go to Iran even with Iranian parents with all the regulations and visas and what not. People of all races badmouth the government, man. Criticism of government is part of what makes this country what it is, why is there such a problem if an Iranian does it? Why is it so different if an Iranian badmouths the government and than when an Asian person does?? Maybe I'm missing the point... Could you refer to another instance, (off this message board) when you have witnessed first hand an Iranian speaking out against the govt. denouncing his citizenship and/or presence in the States?
I can respect that. It's just when you called us all fuckstains.. man, that just got my blood boiling.
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 10:01 AM
February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole all happened under Slick Willy's term...............why were the ones responsible not brought to justice?
9/11 might have been prevented if Bill would have walked the walk that he talked.
He never lied then, homie. that's completely irrelevant, nonetheless.
Jester
04-05-2007, 10:02 AM
Well. First off, I was born here. It's really hard to go to Iran even with Iranian parents with all the regulations and visas and what not. People of all races badmouth the government, man. Criticism of government is part of what makes this country what it is, why is there such a problem if an Iranian does it? Why is it so different if an Iranian badmouths the government and than when an Asian person does?? Maybe I'm missing the point... Could you refer to another instance, (off this message board) when you have witnessed first hand an Iranian speaking out against the govt. denouncing his citizenship and/or presence in the States?
Quit avoiding the facts and questions that were presented to you and answer them.
Anybody and everybody that has spoken out about this country has had to defend themselves..............you are no different.
Jester
04-05-2007, 10:03 AM
He never lied then, homie. that's completely irrelevant, nonetheless.
He never lied??????!!!!!!??????? He fucking completely lied! He said that they would be brought to justice and that every effort would be made to capture these people. Sounds like a huge fucking lie to me.
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 10:04 AM
I can respect that. It's just when you called us all fuckstains.. man, that just got my blood boiling.
Shitty rhetoric on my part, I formally apologize.
Jester
04-05-2007, 10:07 AM
Shitty rhetoric on my part, I formally apologize.
You don't have to be formal, a simple "oopsy tootsy" would work. :D
636ryder
04-05-2007, 10:07 AM
Jesus H! I go over to the old ladies to get some and and stay for a few days and we get ANOTHER iranian?!? BTW all the "man" shit looks entierly too fake to me. Now as for the current discussion...lets see here o thats right clinton. Care to take a guess at how many bosnian, croatian, and serbians hate us because of him? No one died? Go educate yourself like you dadddy done did back in his day and hopefully you might amount to something worth a damn that contributes to this world.
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 10:14 AM
Jesus H! I go over to the old ladies to get some and and stay for a few days and we get ANOTHER iranian?!? BTW all the "man" shit looks entierly too fake to me. Now as for the current discussion...lets see here o thats right clinton. Care to take a guess at how many bosnian, croatian, and serbians hate us because of him? No one died? Go educate yourself like you dadddy done did back in his day and hopefully you might amount to something worth a damn that contributes to this world.
Fellas, Fellas, we're getting a little off topic here, aren't we? This clinton shit came from Jester reading the my sig and commenting on it. Completely irrelevant and off-topic. The subject at hand is whether the US is planning on attacking Iran with some type of military action. Bill Clinton's actions are irrelevant anymore, just as Bush Jr.s will not be in 7-8 years.
Well. First off, I was born here. It's really hard to go to Iran even with Iranian parents with all the regulations and visas and what not. People of all races badmouth the government, man. Criticism of government is part of what makes this country what it is, why is there such a problem if an Iranian does it? Why is it so different if an Iranian badmouths the government and than when an Asian person does?? Maybe I'm missing the point... Could you refer to another instance, (off this message board) when you have witnessed first hand an Iranian speaking out against the govt. denouncing his citizenship and/or presence in the States?
Allow me to educate you then. Since you don't seem to "get it". There is a difference between criticizing the government and calling the president a murderer or piece of shit or whatever else. That's not criticizing, that's disrespect. And you've done it many times on here. You and your parents are here in this country because of our goodwill, people are not going to react positively to you becoming a foaming at the mouth savage just because you don't like George Bush on some personal level. I don't like Bill Clinton but I've never called the man a cocksucker or murderer or anything like that. And that is where our disrespect for you comes from. You don't see me calling Nancy Pelosi a trailer trash crackwhore fuckhead do you? I think that bitch is about as misguided as a lesbian Helen Keller in a tuna factory but you don't see me say anything like that. I lose it about Hillary every once in a while though, guilty as charged on that one. One of the things that makes this country what it is is a basic level of respect for things we disagree with. And you don't come across as having any.
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 10:30 AM
Allow me to educate you then. Since you don't seem to "get it". There is a difference between criticizing the government and calling the president a murderer or piece of shit or whatever else. That's not criticizing, that's disrespect. And you've done it many times on here. You and your parents are here in this country because of our goodwill, people are not going to react positively to you becoming a foaming at the mouth savage just because you don't like George Bush on some personal level. I don't like Bill Clinton but I've never called the man a cocksucker or murderer or anything like that. And that is where our disrespect for you comes from. You don't see me calling Nancy Pelosi a trailer trash crackwhore fuckhead do you? I think that bitch is about as misguided as a lesbian Helen Keller in a tuna factory but you don't see me say anything like that. I lose it about Hillary every once in a while though, guilty as charged on that one. One of the things that makes this country what it is is a basic level of respect for things we disagree with. And you don't come across as having any.
That's funny, I feel the same way. Excuse me sir, but who said you were the granter of citizenship and why are you part of we?? YOU and YOUR parents are here in this country because of OUR goodwill. Who are you to say something like that. Are you some representative of this country? You and your parents/grandparents are also immigrants, just as mine are. Bottom line is your ancestors did not originate here. YOU ARE NO MORE AMERICAN THAN I AM. Why is that so hard for you to see?
636ryder
04-05-2007, 10:33 AM
That's funny, I feel the same way. Excuse me sir, but who said you were the granter of citizenship and why are you part of we?? YOU and YOUR parents are here in this country because of OUR goodwill. Who are you to say something like that. Are you some representative of this country? You and your parents/grandparents are also immigrants, just as mine are. Bottom line is your ancestors did not originate here. YOU ARE NO MORE AMERICAN THAN I AM. Why is that so hard for you to see?
You are where your born, this is true. However, you don't talk like an american by any means. You degrade this country, its way of life, and then try to flip the coin real quick to take the heat off. It doesn't work like that.
Denny
04-05-2007, 10:35 AM
Wow, did you come up with that all by yourself, darling? And the almighty Denny says that nothing I say will ever be taken seriously, is that right now? Nothing ANYONE says on this site is EVER taken seriously, dumbass. hahahahahahaha come talk all this shit to my face and there's no doubt in my mind you wouldn't be so bold and brave with a big iranian in your grill. Bring it, cunt.
Where and when, Hadji?
That's funny, I feel the same way. Excuse me sir, but who said you were the granter of citizenship and why are you part of we?? YOU and YOUR parents are here in this country because of OUR goodwill. Who are you to say something like that. Are you some representative of this country? You and your parents/grandparents are also immigrants, just as mine are. Bottom line is your ancestors did not originate here. YOU ARE NO MORE AMERICAN THAN I AM. Why is that so hard for you to see?
First of all I'm part American Indian, take that as you will. Second, I've had someone from my family die in every war in this country since the civil war. Again, take that as you like. I'd like to think that makes a little bit of difference.
When some old guy who almost got machine gunned on the shores of Iwo Jima listens to you call the president, ANY PRESIDENT, a cocksucker, he's going to take issue with that. And I don't blame him. You asked why it is such a problem when someone who is basically a new immigrant criticizes this country. I answered that question. Just because your opinion doesn't agree with what I said doesn't make it any less real. You wanted to know why and I told you.
I have to admit that I am intrigued by the sense of entitlement that you feel.
Denny
04-05-2007, 10:42 AM
That's funny, I feel the same way. Excuse me sir, but who said you were the granter of citizenship and why are you part of we?? YOU and YOUR parents are here in this country because of OUR goodwill. Who are you to say something like that. Are you some representative of this country? You and your parents/grandparents are also immigrants, just as mine are. Bottom line is your ancestors did not originate here. YOU ARE NO MORE AMERICAN THAN I AM. Why is that so hard for you to see?
We are if you take the word "American" as a state of being and not just where your mama crapped you out.
Where and when, Hadji?
Why Denny, if I didn't know you better I'd say that you were telling this young man to "just bring it".
Denny
04-05-2007, 10:45 AM
Why Denny, if I didn't know you better I'd say that you were telling this young man to "just bring it".
I'll shake the sand out of that bitch.
I'll shake the sand out of that bitch.
Better be careful, he's a "big old Iranian" and he's going to get "in your grill".
Although I don't know why he'd want to be in your grill. I got a gas grill last week, maybe he should come get in my nice clean new grill.
Crazy kids these days.
Denny
04-05-2007, 10:50 AM
Better be careful, he's a "big old Iranian" and he's going to get "in your grill".
Although I don't know why he'd want to be in your grill. I got a gas grill last week, maybe he should come get in my nice clean new grill.
Crazy kids these days.
Who wouldnm't want to be in my grill? :confused: My grill is a great place to be!
I'm gonna throw some Earl Campbells on there if this conversation continues....
Denny
04-05-2007, 10:54 AM
Good 'ol Alan... always got a sausage on the grill. Ever lay some Iranian pork across that grill of yours? I can tell you I never have. The FDA deems all grills as unusable once the contaminated meat hits it. Even the domestic crap... bad stuff, I tell ya.
Jester
04-05-2007, 11:30 AM
Why is it when a tough guy offers to kick someone's ass and then that someone says "okay, let's do it" the tough guy disappears? Weird how that works.
Casper
04-05-2007, 11:33 AM
Why is it when a tough guy offers to kick someone's ass and then that someone says "okay, let's do it" the tough guy disappears? Weird how that works.
I'm sure he's on his way to denny's grill right now.
Jester
04-05-2007, 11:35 AM
I'm sure he's on his way to denny's grill right now.
mmmmmmmm, bacon and gravy
Casper
04-05-2007, 11:40 AM
more like BBQ chicken.
01WhiteCobra
04-05-2007, 11:46 AM
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l295/pnason101/RAMPAGE.jpg
Paladin
04-05-2007, 12:04 PM
WTF is going on around here with all the Iranians coming to the site? Did someone go to moveon.org and say DFWStangs has a bunch of haters of towel heads or something? :D
Why is it when a tough guy offers to kick someone's ass and then that someone says "okay, let's do it" the tough guy disappears? Weird how that works.
I've even offered to let people come over to my house and hold a keyboard while we talk so they feel brave. And still I get nothing.
WTF is going on around here with all the Iranians coming to the site? Did someone go to moveon.org and say DFWStangs has a bunch of haters of towel heads or something? :D
BADLX has been lurking around this site for years, probably in an area near the anus. Like some of the other turds, every once in a while he pops out for an appearance.
636ryder
04-05-2007, 12:38 PM
I've even offered to let people come over to my house and hold a keyboard while we talk so they feel brave. And still I get nothing.
I am so there! :D :p
Paladin
04-05-2007, 12:38 PM
BADLX has been lurking around this site for years, probably in an area near the anus. Like some of the other turds, every once in a while he pops out for an appearance.
Maybe after getting released from jail or rehab?
Casper
04-05-2007, 12:40 PM
I've even offered to let people come over to my house and hold a keyboard while we talk so they feel brave. And still I get nothing.
ROFL!
Jester
04-05-2007, 01:48 PM
I've even offered to let people come over to my house and hold a keyboard while we talk so they feel brave. And still I get nothing.
LMGDAO
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 01:55 PM
You guys love me, i wouldn't trade this shit for the world. It's great how you guys are all big and bad on this board, an alternative venue for you talk shit and hide behind. I'll be around, always am. If this were a face-to-face conversation most of you guys who love to badmouth me would be suffering from a nasty case of inverted penis and a nasty stutter. But for now, i must go--for I have a life away from dfwstangs...
Casper
04-05-2007, 02:00 PM
I guess he told us, huh? :(
Zarathustra
04-05-2007, 02:02 PM
First of all I'm part American Indian, take that as you will. Second, I've had someone from my family die in every war in this country since the civil war. Again, take that as you like. I'd like to think that makes a little bit of difference.
When some old guy who almost got machine gunned on the shores of Iwo Jima listens to you call the president, ANY PRESIDENT, a cocksucker, he's going to take issue with that. And I don't blame him. You asked why it is such a problem when someone who is basically a new immigrant criticizes this country. I answered that question. Just because your opinion doesn't agree with what I said doesn't make it any less real. You wanted to know why and I told you.
I have to admit that I am intrigued by the sense of entitlement that you feel.
So that gives you permission to be a superior american then, right? And it "entitles" you to bash anyone with a different opinion. Because your's is
"American Indian" You know I think that old guy'll probably crack a smile, maybe shed a tear. You know why? Because that's why he went and got shot at, so I and ANYONE who wants can say whatever the hell they want. Not just immigrants or immigrant children. You guys are so closed-minded. Wow
Casper
04-05-2007, 02:04 PM
That was a pretty short life away from dfwstangs.
46Tbird
04-05-2007, 02:28 PM
Those seven minutes were the pinnacle of his existence...
99SVTour
04-05-2007, 02:31 PM
BADLX has been lurking around this site for years, probably in an area near the anus. Like some of the other turds, every once in a while he pops out for an appearance.
would that be prairie dogging?
So that gives you permission to be a superior american then, right? And it "entitles" you to bash anyone with a different opinion. Because your's is
"American Indian" You know I think that old guy'll probably crack a smile, maybe shed a tear. You know why? Because that's why he went and got shot at, so I and ANYONE who wants can say whatever the hell they want. Not just immigrants or immigrant children. You guys are so closed-minded. Wow
Let me get this straight, in one sentence you bash me for saying anything I want, then in the next you explain that you get to bash anyone you want because that is what being an American is. Now that is funny.
I think you are confusing defense of the first amendment with agreeing with what a person says. It must be so confusing for people your age these days. I mean, you kids always seem to get those two things confused. For example, the old guy in this situation would be glad that you can say whatever you want to say without government reprisal or oppression then he'd punch you in your fucking mouth for being an ignorant disrespectful little shit. You just don't seem to get that. You see, there is a difference between opression by the government and plain old good manners. The fact that you can't seperate the two and hide behind that idiotic idea that the first amendment somehow applies to "just being an asshole" only enlightens us all to your age and lack of reasoning.
You better go hide now, Denny is coming back and he might expect you to back up all your bullshit tough guy talk.
would that be prairie dogging?
Why, I think it would....
You guys love me, i wouldn't trade this shit for the world. It's great how you guys are all big and bad on this board, an alternative venue for you talk shit and hide behind. I'll be around, always am. If this were a face-to-face conversation most of you guys who love to badmouth me would be suffering from a nasty case of inverted penis and a nasty stutter. But for now, i must go--for I have a life away from dfwstangs...
I'm sure we'd all be terrified in person.
I wonder if this big ole Iranian is big enough to lay the smack down on the XD45? :confused:
American citizen or not, I no longer give sand "stupid motherfuckers" the benefit of the doubt. I have seen enough of them over the past three years and I'm fucking tired of them. Quarantine whaaaa?
You guys love me, i wouldn't trade this shit for the world. It's great how you guys are all big and bad on this board, an alternative venue for you talk shit and hide behind. I'll be around, always am. If this were a face-to-face conversation most of you guys who love to badmouth me would be suffering from a nasty case of inverted penis and a nasty stutter. But for now, i must go--for I have a life away from dfwstangs...
Are you not in Denton? I would be more than happy to come out and see how much of a bad ass you are. I'm sure I could get AL P to roll with me out there.
What do you say AHPOO
Casper
04-05-2007, 03:03 PM
Be sure and take this with you
http://www.jeffwerner.ca/images/journal/441001large.jpg
01WhiteCobra
04-05-2007, 03:07 PM
Be sure and take this with you
http://www.jeffwerner.ca/images/journal/441001large.jpg
I got that one! Great for quick grilling!
Are you not in Denton? I would be more than happy to come out and see how much of a bad ass you are. I'm sure I could get AL P to roll with me out there.
What do you say AHPOO
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b312/BroncoJohnny/MAC.jpg
Casper
04-05-2007, 03:15 PM
I got that one! Great for quick grilling!
Better keep it locked up, Iranians get in them if you don't.
Better keep it locked up, Iranians get in them if you don't.
Are they like racoons? Fucking Irainans stay out of my garbage.
mikeb
04-05-2007, 03:45 PM
Many of the people in Iran heavily disagree with what Ahmadinejad thinks and are against their current foreign policy. So without childish racial epitaphs, please sir, your rebuttal?
It appears that at least 61.69% of iranians want him in place (with a quite heavy voter turnout I might point out). That is tacit approval of who he is and what he is doing by the iranian people.
The Iranian presidential election of 2005, the ninth presidential election in Iranian history, took place in two rounds, first on June 17, 2005, and then as a run-off on June 24. It led to the victory of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the hardline mayor of Tehran, with 19.48% of the votes in the first round and 61.69% in the second. Ahmadinejad is believed to have won the second round because of his populist views, especially those regarding the poor people and their economic status. The election saw a turnout of almost 60% of eligible voters, seen as a strike back by Iran at the United States' initial allegations that many in Iran would be restricted from voting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_presidential_election,_2005
01WhiteCobra
04-05-2007, 03:48 PM
Better keep it locked up, Iranians get in them if you don't.
No worries. Only thing I grill on that thing is pork ribs and sausage with the occasional hamburger.
I also keep my cropped ear feral hog attached to it.
Casper
04-05-2007, 03:50 PM
It appears that at least 61.69% of iranians want him in place (with a quite heavy voter turnout I might point out). That is tacit approval of who he is and what he is doing by the iranian people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_presidential_election,_2005
Its funny you brought that up; I was just thinking about how this "gift" to britain was something like when saddam emptied the prisons. And then had 100% popularity in the election.
I don't know where I was going with it, but it was a thought and i guess I meant something. Nevermind, carry on.
Jester
04-05-2007, 04:43 PM
Called out again.............gone again.
99SVTour
04-05-2007, 05:25 PM
Its funny you brought that up; I was just thinking about how this "gift" to britain was something like when saddam emptied the prisons. And then had 100% popularity in the election.
I don't know where I was going with it, but it was a thought and i guess I meant something. Nevermind, carry on.
lmao! did you forget your ritalin this morning?
Denny
04-06-2007, 06:35 AM
Where and when, Hadji?
Just checkin' in... I've got nuthin'
98COBRA#770
04-06-2007, 09:03 AM
You guys love me, i wouldn't trade this shit for the world. It's great how you guys are all big and bad on this board, an alternative venue for you talk shit and hide behind. I'll be around, always am. If this were a face-to-face conversation...
Face to face dear god please come to a GTG and state your views damn it would
be like christmas and the 4th of July all rolled into one!
I'd show up for that oh I'm 1/4 American Indian old enough to be most board
members parent as a matter a fact 2 of my sons are members here.
Jester
04-06-2007, 09:08 AM
Face to face dear god please come to a GTG and state your views damn it would
be like christmas and the 4th of July all rolled into one!
I'd show up for that!
I'll bring the buttsects!!!!!!! :D
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b312/BroncoJohnny/buttsecks.gif
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b312/BroncoJohnny/buttsecks.gif
Holly shit did that thing eat BADLX? Also I hope ALP's photo dosen't offend too many of the FAT people on this board.
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