cowardly democrats

[Stevo]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070327/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq

Shameful. :mad:

Stevo

[Walsted]

What is even more shameful is the money wasted. It's known that the President will veto the bill, and not enough votes exist to override the veto. Thus, no real work was accomplished - the cost of all the hours spent by the Representatives and Senators and their staff and the building staff, plus utilities, transportation, and so forth, produced nothing for the taxpayers.

[usmcluke]

What is even more shameful is the money wasted. It's known that the President will veto the bill, and not enough votes exist to override the veto. Thus, no real work was accomplished - the cost of all the hours spent by the Representatives and Senators and their staff and the building staff, plus utilities, transportation, and so forth, produced nothing for the taxpayers.
It will produce excuses and the illusion of actual legislation. Exactly what the Democratic Party wants.

[mikeb]

What is even more shameful is the money wasted. It's known that the President will veto the bill, and not enough votes exist to override the veto. Thus, no real work was accomplished - the cost of all the hours spent by the Representatives and Senators and their staff and the building staff, plus utilities, transportation, and so forth, produced nothing for the taxpayers.

Meanwhile, the troops run out of money while the idiots in DC play political games, putting them at an even greater risk of harm. But the dems "support the troops" :rolleyes:

[gpamp]

Meanwhile, the troops run out of money while the idiots in DC play political games, putting them at an even greater risk of harm. But the dems "support the troops" :rolleyes:

"If we don't blindly follow our leaders, then how can we ever truly be free?"

-Frank Burns

[mikeb]

"If we don't blindly follow our leaders, then how can we ever truly be free?"

-Frank Burns

Not for sure where you are going with this.

Regardless of your position allowing the troops to flat run out of resources due to political posturing and thus putting people in harm's way is really not funny at all.

[gpamp]

Not for sure where you are going with this.

Regardless of your position allowing the troops to flat run out of resources due to political posturing and thus putting people in harm's way is really not funny at all.

What's not funny is sending the troops in there with less than good battle armor.

And my quote was my way of nicely calling you a Kool-Aid drinker. In M*A*S*H, you'd be Frank Burns.

it's not a bad thing. Frank was funny.

[Mustangman_2000]

and cowardly republicans as well.

shameful. :mad:

"Additionally, GOP Sens. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska and Gordon Smith (news, bio, voting record) of Oregon sided with the Democrats, assuring them of the majority they needed to turn back a challenge led by Sen. Thad Cochran (news, bio, voting record), R-Miss. "The president's strategy is taking America deeper and deeper into this quagmire with no exit strategy," said Hagel, the most vocal Republican critic of the war in Congress."

oh, but wait!!

one of those cowardly republicans (chuck hagel) is a vietnam war veteran who received the vietnamese cross of gallantry, purple peart, army commendation medal, and the combat infantryman badge.

that same man is now a coward? because he sides with the democrats over putting and fixed timeline on troop withdrawl. and trying to put an end to a war that was started on bogus intelligence and a false assumption that there was a link between al qaeda and iraq relating to 9/11/01.

tsk tsk.....poor stevo. :( thinking that honorable, educated, and decorated army war veterans are cowards.

[Stevo]

and cowardly republicans as well.

shameful. :mad:



oh, but wait!!

one of those cowardly republicans (chuck hagel) is a vietnam war veteran who received the vietnamese cross of gallantry, purple peart, army commendation medal, and the combat infantryman badge.

that same man is now a coward? because he sides with the democrats over putting and fixed timeline on troop withdrawl. and trying to put an end to a war that was started on bogus intelligence and a false assumption that there was a link between al qaeda and iraq relating to 9/11/01.

tsk tsk.....poor stevo. :( thinking that honorable, educated, and decorated army war veterans are cowards.

Spin it DJ, they are doing their best to hamstring our military just to make the opposite political party look bad. I don't give a fuck if a republican was Capt. America before he started voting (and doing his best to gain attention) to cut our military's throat, he is a fucking coward. Just like you. Funny, with all his military experience, you would think he would know that giving our enemy a timetable totally screws up our efforts. It appears he isn't educated. Just like you. And, as far as his decorations, I tend to look at peoples actions instead of medals or ribbons. Decorations are something women use to pretty up a house. A medal does not make the man.

No poor stevo here, I know what the situation is at hand, and I see how you piss-poor libs are doing you best to demean the political opponents, even at the risk of our soldiers and our country. At this point, you shitbags are as bad as the slimy North Koreans and Iranians, at least with those fuckers you know they are the enemy, you fucking libs are like maggots eating America from the inside out. Well congrats lib-boy, you have just endangered more American lives, and weakened our country, all in the name of partisan politics. I hope you feel good about it.

Stevo

[Mustangman_2000]

Spin it DJ, they are doing their best to hamstring our military just to make the opposite political party look bad. I don't give a fuck if a republican was Capt. America before he started voting (and doing his best to gain attention) to cut our military's throat, he is a fucking coward. Just like you. Funny, with all his military experience, you would think he would know that giving our enemy a timetable totally screws up our efforts. It appears he isn't educated. Just like you.


chuck hagel is a coward and uneducated just like me you say?

let's see......he has a college diploma and so do i. he's a decorated war veteran. i never served in the military, but i was a paramedic at rural metro ambulance doing general and emergency treatment and transport.

i don't think you really have a modicum of understanding of what is and what is not a coward.

you're an angry and disgruntled pro-conservative that is pissed to high heaven at the winds of change in washington d.c. starting back in nov. '06. which, of course, makes sense because conservatives resist change.

i'm going to illustrate by example what a small minded rube you really are.

i strongly disagree with republican senator john mccain on many issues. however, i would never call that man a coward after what he endured and survived in vietnam. he is someone to look up to in my book. and i could name many such examples both democrats and republicans or just regular people.

you are allergic to people who have different points of view and have almost a militant aversion to people who don't agree with your philosophy. and you don't have the will or maybe even the capacity to realize it.

and shame on you for making me staunchly defend republicans. :eek:

[black01gt]

Well congrats lib-boy, you have just endangered more American lives, and weakened our country, all in the name of partisan politics. I hope you feel good about it.

Stevo
Uhmmmmm...MM2000. For shame for shame. I hope you're proud of yourself!!!

But Stevo. Do you think there will ever be a time when Iraq needs to stand on their own? Or do you honestly think we need to sacrifice our country propping up the stoopid fuckers? Not saying we lost, but we didn't win either. Time to get out and let them enjoy their civil war. If you think the only way to secure our country is to keep fighting that silly assed extremely costly "war" over there you're going to get snuck up on...again.

The Iraqi "war" is a distraction.
If you're a dumbass call me some names and show us your parrot.

[Mustangman_2000]

If you're a dumbass call me some names and show us your parrot.

i kind of miss seeing the parrot myself. :(

[Sean88gt]

What is even more shameful is the money wasted. It's known that the President will veto the bill, and not enough votes exist to override the veto. Thus, no real work was accomplished - the cost of all the hours spent by the Representatives and Senators and their staff and the building staff, plus utilities, transportation, and so forth, produced nothing for the taxpayers.


The only thing accomplished is the world wide view that our country has grown tired of this war and tired of supporting our military:mad:

Piss poor message to send to a bunch of animals that are looking for anything to give them deeper faith in allahs glory:rolleyes:

And Hagel should give up his Republican card, pull a Jeffords and follow what he thinks is public support.

[Casper]

Maybe its a good thing nothing is being accomplished.

[Denny]

Maybe its a good thing nothing is being accomplished.
LMFAO!!!! Did you just type out what was on your fortune cookie?

[mikeb]

What's not funny is sending the troops in there with less than good battle armor.

And my quote was my way of nicely calling you a Kool-Aid drinker. In M*A*S*H, you'd be Frank Burns.

it's not a bad thing. Frank was funny.

I guess with the kool-aid comment you are saying that i'm a pro-Bush guy, which is not my point.

If you take the politics out of it and just consider the logistics - there are troops on the ground that (from what i've heard on the radio) are within weeks of exhausting their funding and supplies. These are our people.... dads....moms....brothers.....sisters.... husbands and wives.... that will be at a much higher risk because they won't have the supplies to effectively do their jobs. Whether you are for/against the war, putting our people in that kind of a situation over partisian politics is unconsciousable. Especially when you voted for the war in the first place.

[Denny]

I guess with the kool-aid comment you are saying that i'm a pro-Bush guy, which is not my point.

If you take the politics out of it and just consider the logistics - there are troops on the ground that (from what i've heard on the radio) are within weeks of exhausting their funding and supplies. These are our people.... dads....moms....brothers.....sisters.... husbands and wives.... that will be at a much higher risk because they won't have the supplies to effectively do their jobs. Whether you are for/against the war, putting our people in that kind of a situation over partisian politics is unconsciousable. Especially when you voted for the war in the first place.
To some people, that sacrifice is willing to be taken, just to prove their point (or try to prove it).

[gpamp]

I guess with the kool-aid comment you are saying that i'm a pro-Bush guy, which is not my point.

If you take the politics out of it and just consider the logistics - there are troops on the ground that (from what i've heard on the radio) are within weeks of exhausting their funding and supplies. These are our people.... dads....moms....brothers.....sisters.... husbands and wives.... that will be at a much higher risk because they won't have the supplies to effectively do their jobs. Whether you are for/against the war, putting our people in that kind of a situation over partisian politics is unconsciousable. Especially when you voted for the war in the first place.

Bring them home, then. I doubt they'd argue with orders to return to home.

[Denny]

Bring them home, then. I doubt they'd argue with orders to return to home.
They're not supposed to argue with ANY orders. That's why they're soldiers. When they get back, I'm sure people like you will just find something else to bitch about, though.

[Stevo]

Stupid fucking liberal extremists, nearly as bad as the fundamental extremists we are fighting today. you two guys can spin it how ever you want, but you know know the story is true, your democratic leaders are cutting our militarys and soldiers balls off, or at least doing the best to do it, all in the name of political advancement.

Iraqi occupation has very little to do with liberating Iraqis from the Saddam regime at this point, it is all about keep it free of Iranian control, keeping the muslim extremists from taking over the fucking country. But you dolts know this, and yet, you still try to use it as a lever for political advancement. Stupidity. The fact that the flaming democrats rather run on the ticket of 'blame Bush, blame Republicans, blame the war' instead of running on issues and planning is cowardice.

Democrats, best friend a terrorist will ever have.

By the way, you keep burping Chuck Hagel's name instead of the numerous democrats that have been pushing these cowardly acts, what is with the infatuation? Hagel, as mentioned before, is at this point just an attention whore. I care not that he was in the military at some point, how many medals he received, whether he went to college or not. I guess you think only geniuses enlist in the military, enroll in college or get awarded medals? Ever watch "Forrest Gump"? Fictional, but accurate in some cases. And for the record, I am not impressed with the paramedic thing, it isn't like it takes intelligence or bravery to do it guy, most paramedics seem to be people that don't have what it takes to be either police officers or doctors, so they try to be as close as they can. It damn sure doesn't make you appear more intelligent, every time you post you intelligence (or painful lack of) shines through.

Stevo

[Stevo]

I guess with the kool-aid comment you are saying that i'm a pro-Bush guy, which is not my point.

If you take the politics out of it and just consider the logistics - there are troops on the ground that (from what i've heard on the radio) are within weeks of exhausting their funding and supplies. These are our people.... dads....moms....brothers.....sisters.... husbands and wives.... that will be at a much higher risk because they won't have the supplies to effectively do their jobs. Whether you are for/against the war, putting our people in that kind of a situation over partisian politics is unconsciousable. Especially when you voted for the war in the first place.

Not just this Mike, but how many of the insurgents are now going to fight harder knowing that, if they just last to the pull-out date, they have won?

Stevo

[Stevo]

Uhmmmmm...MM2000. For shame for shame. I hope you're proud of yourself!!!

But Stevo. Do you think there will ever be a time when Iraq needs to stand on their own? Or do you honestly think we need to sacrifice our country propping up the stoopid fuckers? Not saying we lost, but we didn't win either. Time to get out and let them enjoy their civil war. If you think the only way to secure our country is to keep fighting that silly assed extremely costly "war" over there you're going to get snuck up on...again.

The Iraqi "war" is a distraction.
If you're a dumbass call me some names and show us your parrot.

No need to call you a dumbass, everyone that reads your posts quickly draws that conclusion. :rolleyes:

Stevo

[nitrousii]

Bring them home, then. I doubt they'd argue with orders to return to home.
You like some americans don't understand why some americans join the military.They join to defend freedom. They see the world for what it is,and see america for what we are.All would follow the order but most would giving the choice would stay and finish the job. The world should wake up before we are all victims.

[gpamp]

Stupid fucking liberal extremists, nearly as bad as the fundamental extremists we are fighting today.

Actually, they have more in common with Right-Wing Religious Extremists.

Think "Abortion clinic bombers".

Both extremes suck. But most Right Wing extremists exclude themselves from the term extremist. But they are.

[gpamp]

You like some americans don't understand why some americans join the military.They join to defend freedom. They see the world for what it is,and see america for what we are.All would follow the order but most would giving the choice would stay and finish the job. The world should wake up before we are all victims.

Ok, so they sign up to fight for our country, right?

So, if we gave them orders to go wash the car of every American, wouldn't that be retarded? It'd be "mis-using the military".

Just because they sign up for one thing, doesn't mean our leaders have the right to use them in a poor fashion.

[SouthernSVT]

Ok, so they sign up to fight for our country, right?

So, if we gave them orders to go wash the car of every American, wouldn't that be retarded? It'd be "mis-using the military".

Just because they sign up for one thing, doesn't mean our leaders have the right to use them in a poor fashion.
I would support the troops washing my car, hell ill support anyone washing my car.

P.S. Politicians do not care who they screw to get what they want, it is all a big game to them. We need a big ass spring cleaning party of the politicians in DC right now.

[gpamp]

I would support the troops washing my car, hell ill support anyone washing my car.

P.S. Politicians do not care who they screw to get what they want, it is all a big game to them. We need a big ass spring cleaning party of the politicians in DC right now.

I think there's definately enough DFWstangers to run this place.

[mikeb]

Bring them home, then. I doubt they'd argue with orders to return to home.

Recipe for future disaster. I hope you like praying to the east several times a day :)

[gpamp]

Recipe for future disaster. I hope you like praying to the east several times a day :)

Oh brother.

Seriously?

I thought the Cold War mentality was over.

[usmcluke]

Bring them home, then. I doubt they'd argue with orders to return to home.
You don't know many military men do you? I personally would argue with a hasty retreat (don't call it a withdrawl, call it what it is) and I know several other who would not appreciate knowing that our leaders lacked the ball sack to finish the job.

[exlude]

Oh brother.

Seriously?

I thought the Cold War mentality was over.

It's not Cold War mentality. The enemy has stated that we either obey their religion/constructs or they must kill us. And it's not that they must kill our military men/women or anyone invading them...that includes civilians not in their country as well.

[gpamp]

You don't know many military men do you? I personally would argue with a hasty retreat (don't call it a withdrawl, call it what it is) and I know several other who would not appreciate knowing that our leaders lacked the ball sack to finish the job.

The biggest problem I have, is the job, period. Not that the troops are there. Not that they want to stay there. I just question the job our President picked to "finish". Not sure it's a task worth completing.

[exlude]

The biggest problem I have, is the job, period. Not that the troops are there. Not that they want to stay there. I just question the job our President picked to "finish". Not sure it's a task worth completing.

What is your definition of "the job"?

[Denny]

The biggest problem I have, is the job, period. Not that the troops are there. Not that they want to stay there. I just question the job our President picked to "finish". Not sure it's a task worth completing.
Because leaving Iraq as a better place than when we entered it wouldn't mean shit, huh?

[mikeb]

Oh brother.

Seriously?

I thought the Cold War mentality was over.

You know, before 9/11 people never thought anything seriously bad could happen on US soil related to terrorism.

I promise you that if these guys are allowed to become strong enough we will begin to see "action" here. They want nothing more than to destroy us and our way of life.

[gpamp]

What is your definition of "the job"?

whatever usmcluke says it is.

[gpamp]

Because leaving Iraq as a better place than when we entered it wouldn't mean shit, huh?

Not with a bunch of tearful mothers & fathers, left here in America to mourn, never to enjoy vacationing in Iraq.

[gpamp]

You know, before 9/11 people never thought anything seriously bad could happen on US soil related to terrorism.

I promise you that if these guys are allowed to become strong enough we will begin to see "action" here. They want nothing more than to destroy us and our way of life.

I think that's an extreme way to look at it. At least it's extreme to say "we'll be bowing to the east if we leave Iraq."

extreme.

[Denny]

Not with a bunch of tearful mothers & fathers, left here in America to mourn, never to enjoy vacationing in Iraq.
Whatever you say, Cindy Shehan. :rolleyes: It's war, what do you expect? People like you support the military and causes until someone gets hurt or dies. Bunch of fucking bandwagoning cheerleaders.

[gpamp]

Whatever you say, Cindy Shehan. :rolleyes: It's war, what do you expect? People like you support the military and causes until someone gets hurt or dies. Bunch of fucking bandwagoning cheerleaders.

Calm down. Geez.

Don't get so wound up in a forum. Too much stress. Especially over politics.

[usmcluke]

whatever usmcluke says it is.
Nice redirect. My job comes from my superiors all the way up to the Commander in Chief. Bush is the HMFIC if you don't like it maybe you should have ran and beat him. I am not a repulican or a democrat I am an American and a free thinking one at that, one that has first hand experience with the people and the shitheads of Iraq.

They are a people capable of governing themselves if given the proper support and a good base on which to build. Do I think that democracy will work in Iraq?? Not likely. Do I think that a successful government can be established that doesn't persecute people based on their ethnicity? Damn straight. Saddam was an evil man that murdered thousands of people and ruled with an iron fist and black heart. He had to be stopped and we did that but to leave now would create a vacuum that would be both dangerous to the people that we sought to help but as well as the rest of world.

This isn't play time, you can't just pack up your pail and shovel when things get hard.

[Denny]

Calm down. Geez.

Don't get so wound up in a forum. Too much stress. Especially over politics.
Sorry. These issues obviously mean more to me than you.

[gpamp]

Nice redirect. My job comes from my superiors all the way up to the Commander in Chief. Bush is the HMFIC if you don't like it maybe you should have ran and beat him. I am not a repulican or a democrat I am an American and a free thinking one at that, one that has first hand experience with the people and the shitheads of Iraq.

They are a people capable of governing themselves if given the proper support and a good base on which to build. Do I think that democracy will work in Iraq?? Not likely. Do I think that a successful government can be established that doesn't persecute people based on their ethnicity? Damn straight. Saddam was an evil man that murdered thousands of people and ruled with an iron fist and black heart. He had to be stopped and we did that but to leave now would create a vacuum that would be both dangerous to the people that we sought to help but as well as the rest of world.

This isn't play time, you can't just pack up your pail and shovel when things get hard.

No, I said that, because he was the one to use the word "job".

[usmcluke]

Calm down. Geez.

Don't get so wound up in a forum. Too much stress. Especially over politics.
So now it is politics but before it was senseless death? Choose a line and follow it, don't swerve all over the road, have purpose. The reason some get wound up it because those politics directly affect our lives or the lives of people we care about. Oh and BTW people die in war and Hummers were not built to be armored vehicles so all this bullshit about not having bulletproof everything is stupid. Nowhere in any contract that I signed did they say they would make me impervious to enemy fire my fellow Marine, my CO, my Corps, my Country, and my Commander in Chief have never failed to back me 100%. I can't say the same thing about my congress.

[exlude]

whatever usmcluke says it is.

I was asking what you think the job, the mission, the objective is in Iraq.

[gpamp]

Sorry. These issues obviously mean more to me than you.

Right.

You're WAY more patriotic than me. You probably have a 49 cent yellow ribbon magnet on your car, that says "my USA can beat up your USA".

http://www.supportourribbons.com/maker2/get_item_img_multi.php?id=2379&width=456&height=456&show_url=0

[mikeb]

I think that's an extreme way to look at it. At least it's extreme to say "we'll be bowing to the east if we leave Iraq."

extreme.

Those people are pretty extreme. Have you not noticed?

Also, you might go back and check your history. Specifically the moorish invasion. A 700 year Holy war (heard that before? how about jihad?).

Are they tenatious? You bet :(

[usmcluke]

No, I said that, because he was the one to use the word "job".
I never stated what the job was and you said you had a problem with "the job", to imply you don't agree with the direction we are taking in Iraq. What do you interpert the job to be?

The biggest problem I have, is the job, period. Not that the troops are there. Not that they want to stay there. I just question the job our President picked to "finish". Not sure it's a task worth completing.

What task is not worthy of completing? You seem to be stirring the pot for the sake of it. Some of us lost dear friends in this war and take it very personally so if you feel like making a mockery of something or picking a topic to stir shit about I suggest you pick another topic.

[Denny]

Right.

You're WAY more patriotic than me. You probably have a 49 cent yellow ribbon magnet on your car, that says "my USA can beat up your USA".

http://www.supportourribbons.com/maker2/get_item_img_multi.php?id=2379&width=456&height=456&show_url=0
You're the one saying it, but I've done more than buy a stupid magnet. What have you done? Either for or against it. Go back to band practice and sing about how bad our country is.

[gpamp]

You're the one saying it, but I've done more than buy a stupid magnet. What have you done? Either for or against it. Go back to band practice and sing about how bad our country is.

asdlkfja;sldkfjapweij

Mouth... full... of your.... words.

I NEVER said our country was bad. I LOVE this country. I love our soldiers. So much so, that I want them to live.

[gpamp]

I never stated what the job was and you said you had a problem with "the job", to imply you don't agree with the direction we are taking in Iraq.

I know several other who would not appreciate knowing that our leaders lacked the ball sack to finish the job.
.

[Denny]

asdlkfja;sldkfjapweij

Mouth... full... of your.... words.

I NEVER said our country was bad. I LOVE this country. I love our soldiers. So much so, that I want them to live.
But don't want to do anything about a threat? Please.

[gpamp]

But don't want to do anything about a threat? Please.

No, I do.

Osama.

Where'dhego?

[exlude]

.

By quoting him, he confirmed the first quote. He never stated what it was. I asked you what you thought it was and you dodged. :(

[Denny]

No, I do.

Osama.

Where'dhego?
Get out there and look! Oh wait. You say the school bell has rang and recess is over? OK. I guess since we haven't found him by now, it's time to tuck our tails and return home. Obviously there's no more threat.

[gpamp]

By quoting him, he confirmed the first quote. He never stated what it was. I asked you what you thought it was and you dodged. :(

The war in Iraq. That's the job. I don't believe it's the right job to be doing. I'm worried about the future. I think that we'll regret being there.

[Denny]

The war in Iraq. That's the job. I don't believe it's the right job to be doing. I'm worried about the future. I think that we'll regret being there.
Kinda like your dad regretting not pulling out? Do you think everyone would have been better off if he was left alone? Honestly answer that.

[usmcluke]

The war in Iraq. That's the job. I don't believe it's the right job to be doing. I'm worried about the future. I think that we'll regret being there.
/Ignore
You are too stupid to even deal with any longer.

[gpamp]

Kinda like your dad regretting not pulling out? Do you think everyone would have been better off if he was left alone? Honestly answer that.

Wow. Personal attack? Over this?

[exlude]

The war in Iraq. That's the job. I don't believe it's the right job to be doing. I'm worried about the future. I think that we'll regret being there.

Well yes. But why are we at war in Iraq? What's the job to be done there? What have we yet to complete?

This is all your opinion, of course. I'm just trying to see where you stand.

[gpamp]

/Ignore
You are too stupid to even deal with any longer.

God forbid anyone have a different opinion than you, right?

[Denny]

Wow. Personal attack? Over this?
So... you're NOT going to answer that one either, huh?

[gpamp]

Well yes. But why are we at war in Iraq? What's the job to be done there? What have we yet to complete?

This is all your opinion, of course. I'm just trying to see where you stand.

I honestly have NO idea. Saudi Arabia is where the 9/11 bombers were from. Osama was in Afghanastan. I think Iraq was a little off course.

But everyone thinks I should die for thinking that.

[Denny]

God forbid anyone have a different opinion than you, right?
You can have a different opinion, but it's still a retarded one.

[usmcluke]

God forbid anyone have a different opinion than you, right?
You don't have an opinion you just oppose others for the sake of it. Tell us where we should be and what we should be doing. Don't bring problems without solutions, to do so makes you a whiny puss filled fag. To bring a problem with a solution at least establishes some sort of thought process.

[Denny]

I honestly have NO idea. Saudi Arabia is where the 9/11 bombers were from. Osama was in Afghanastan. I think Iraq was a little off course.

But everyone thinks I should die for thinking that.
If you think we're in Iraq as a direct result of 9/11, then you really need to go do a little homework before coming back on here.

[gpamp]

So... you're NOT going to answer that one either, huh?

no.

whatever I answer, you'll either disagree with me, or insult me.

what's the point?

[gpamp]

You don't have an opinion you just oppose others for the sake of it. Tell us where we should be and what we should be doing. Don't bring problems without solutions, to do so makes you a whiny puss filled fag. To bring a problem with a solution at least establishes some sort of thought process.

I see the corps made you a mature one.

[Denny]

no.

whatever I answer, you'll either disagree with me, or insult me.

what's the point?
Hmmm... I think you've finally realized that you're just talking out of your ass and no one is buying the shit you spew. It's understandable.

[gpamp]

Seriously guys. This is the dumbest thread ever. Not because you disagree with me, or I might disagree with you. But its really not worth the mb it's taking up on this site.

[gpamp]

Hmmm... I think you've finally realized that you're just talking out of your ass and no one is buying the shit you spew. It's understandable.

That's it.

Just keep believing your blogs. I'll write one you can live by. Look for it, soon.

[Denny]

I see the corps made you a mature one.
Not only that, but more of a man than you can ever claim and a more credible source for his opinion.

[Denny]

That's it.

Just keep believing your blogs. I'll write one you can live by. Look for it, soon.
I seriously doubt you have the capacity to.

[gpamp]

I seriously doubt you have the capacity to.

Ok.

[46Tbird]

Saddam (Iraq) was yanking the dog's tail by violating no-fly zones and supporting terrorists. It just so happens that his country makes a nice spot in the middle east for us to have a presence. Like Germany and South Korea.

We could kick the shit out of the "insurgents" anytime we want to. Just takes balls to break out the big toys.

This war isn't fun, it is definitely time to make the Iraqis responsible for their own safety and security. I don't think a timetable is the right way to do that. It is what we know as the "light at the end of the tunnel" for those that are fighting us. There will be a temporary peaceful reprieve if this thing passes. When it does, the Democrats / liberals will scream "SEE?" at the top of their lungs and proudly proclaim their superior intellect. Meanwhile the people we're fighting are just underground, readying themselves for the REAL shit storm when we leave. Why would they waste munitions and lives fighting us, if they already know we'll leave without them firing a single round?

I'm just wondering if you liberals ever really think things through.

[usmcluke]

I see the corps made you a mature one.
Ohh ok, I know you are but what am I? Are you gonna whip out the rubber vs glue next?

I guess you like riding a fence like it is your gay lover. Make a stand, state your position or better yet just die...that would be my preference.

[Denny]

Ohh ok, I know you are but what am I? Are you gonna whip out the rubber vs glue next?

I guess you like riding a fence like it is your gay lover. Make a stand, state your position or better yet just die...that would be my preference.
I'm not going to make a statement because you guys will just get mad at me!!!

[gpamp]

Ohh ok, I know you are but what am I? Are you gonna whip out the rubber vs glue next?

I guess you like riding a fence like it is your gay lover. Make a stand, state your position or better yet just die...that would be my preference.

Wow. You want me to die? Because I disagree with you?

[Denny]

Wow. You want me to die? Because I disagree with you?
I can see you posting this with you mouth wide open, eyebrows raised, and a hand covering your cum catcher. LMAO!

[usmcluke]

Wow. You want me to die? Because I disagree with you?
Where have you disagreed with me? I have yet to see any clear standing? I didn't say I wanted you to die, I would just prefer it to your indifferent attitude and disagreeing for the sake of it.

[gpamp]

I can see you posting this with you mouth wide open, eyebrows raised, and a hand covering your cum catcher. LMAO!

No. I'm not literally THAT surprised.

I just don't think it's healthy to think that way about another person. Especially if they've done you no harm.

[mikeb]

Saddam (Iraq) was yanking the dog's tail by violating no-fly zones and supporting terrorists.

Not to mention thumbing his nose at 16 UN resolutions.

[636ryder]

Because im in a good mood, ill give you a hand gcamp. " The job " as so fiercely debated would be to stabalize iraq, meaning stop the internal war between the people(which is almost impossible), leave a functioning gov't, and a mobilized and capable military. Thats a very rough and broad concept of what we(the US gov't and people that support what were trying to do over there) would like to accomplish. Are these things attainable? Yes, to an extent, but are they attainable on the timetable of whiny pussies that aren't gettin what they want at any given time, no.

The d-bags whine that we aren't building thier military quick enough, well hell it takes time. Also we gotta sort out whether the ones were training are legit for making a better Iraq, and not just getting the training then once we leave help fuck it up.

As for the functioning gov't...right now they got figureheads and tons of different people pulling them in all directions, no real cohesion amongst the groups. Thats something we can't control, look at our gov't for reference, however if we can get it in place with all of them having common ground, we would hope they can get things going in a direction for the betterment of the country.

[Paladin]

Seriously guys. This is the dumbest thread ever. Not because you disagree with me, or I might disagree with you. But its really not worth the mb it's taking up on this site.

I guess you decide when the thread turns against your extremist views it is the dumbest thread ever? Any chance the threads you enter are the dumbest ever because of your posts?


Now, back to topic. The Dems have held the funding for our troops hostage with a bill that has billions in "bribes" (pork) given to Dems so that they will vote for the bill. They then put in a non-binding timetable to appease you extreme liberal cut and run types. Yeah, that is the mandate the voters gave the Dems, put billions of pork in a bill about funding our troops and then talk about raising taxes to fund the pork. One thing about you Dems, you never change, do you?

[gpamp]

I guess you decide when the thread turns against your extremist views it is the dumbest thread ever? Any chance the threads you enter are the dumbest ever because of your posts?


Now, back to topic. The Dems have held the funding for our troops hostage with a bill that has billions in "bribes" (pork) given to Dems so that they will vote for the bill. They then put in a non-binding timetable to appease you extreme liberal cut and run types. Yeah, that is the mandate the voters gave the Dems, put billions of pork in a bill about funding our troops and then talk about raising taxes to fund the pork. One thing about you Dems, you never change, do you?

no, man. the personal attacks, the over-zealousness, the absolute rage that it brings out in people. that's why I'm not into it.

[Denny]

no, man. the personal attacks, the over-zealousness, the absolute rage that it brings out in people. that's why I'm not into it.
Then don't jump into it with your weak, baseless responses.

[636ryder]

Jesus christ! ok gcamp im now in full agreement with everyone else on here. I give you the opportunity to turn things around for yourself, yet you lack the ability to do so. :rolleyes:

[Paladin]

no, man. the personal attacks, the over-zealousness, the absolute rage that it brings out in people. that's why I'm not into it.

Where is this rage? It must be hidden in our laughing at your stupid posts.


Disclaimer: BTW, I called your posts stupid, this is in now way trying to insinuate that you personally are stupid, or that all posts you will ever make or that you have ever made are stupid. I am also not trying to say that you cannot have your own opinion or that your opinion is always stupid or uninformed, although so far I have only seen stupid and uninformed posts from you to date. I am not enraged while laughing, it is just that you bring such ignorance to the thread that I laugh. I am not saying that you are always ignorant, just that...ahhh forget it. LOL

[Denny]

Where is this rage? It must be hidden in our laughing at your stupid posts.


Disclaimer: BTW, I called your posts stupid, this is in now way trying to insinuate that you personally are stupid, or that all posts you will ever make or that you have ever made are stupid. I am also not trying to say that you cannot have your own opinion or that your opinion is always stupid or uninformed, although so far I have only seen stupid and uninformed posts from you to date. I am not enraged while laughing, it is just that you bring such ignorance to the thread that I laugh. I am not saying that you are always ignorant, just that...ahhh forget it. LOL
No, you're saying that. Just like the rest of us.

[Paladin]

Jesus christ! ok gcamp im now in full agreement with everyone else on here. I give you the ability to turn things around for yourself, yet you lack the ability to do so. :rolleyes:


He joins an ever increasing list:

black01gt
Mustangman2000

Please feel free to add to the list for those that are so inclined. LOL

[gpamp]

what the hell? Someone said they wished I would die. That's not a personal insult, or a show of overzealous passion?

Geez, people. Officer Nix's funeral is going on.

[usmcluke]

what the hell? Someone said they wished I would die. That's not a personal insult, or a show of overzealous passion?

Geez, people. Officer Nix's funeral is going on.
I guess I hurt his feelers.

[gpamp]

I don't like being defined for one thing I might think, or believe. And on a forum like this, it's easy to do.

[636ryder]

He joins an ever increasing list:

black01gt
Mustangman2000

Please feel free to add to the list for those that are so inclined. LOL

Well if he can use the scroll function(not entirely sure he knows how at this moment), he can maybe...with the slimest of hope pull outta this. :D A good start would be to quote me and pick a stance. That would at least give him some footing to backtrack and affirm a position. As for his whole people want me to die thing, yea no he isn't going to win that.

[gpamp]

I guess I hurt his feelers.

No, I'm pretty thicked skin. I just don't like confrontation. Again, especially about something that you or I can do nothing about.

I'm sure you'll list ways in which each person can do SOMETHING to affect the outcome of things, and that's fine.

I just think that in the grand scheme of things, between arguing about politics, and arguing on whether Rolling Rock or Shiner is better, the later is the more enticing argument.

[Paladin]

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Mouth... full... of your.... words.

I NEVER said our country was bad. I LOVE this country. I love our soldiers. So much so, that I want them to live.

BTW, if I support the war in Iraq does that mean I want soldiers to die?

Do you support the war in Afghanistan? Does that mean you want them to die?

I support the war in Iraq and don't want any soldiers to die, so why would you phrase your post like that?

[Paladin]

I don't like being defined for one thing I might think, or believe. And on a forum like this, it's easy to do.

You are so far being defined by what you have posted. Isn't that valid?

[usmcluke]

No, I'm pretty thicked skin. I just don't like confrontation. Again, especially about something that you or I can do nothing about.

I'm sure you'll list ways in which each person can do SOMETHING to affect the outcome of things, and that's fine.

I just think that in the grand scheme of things, between arguing about politics, and arguing on whether Rolling Rock or Shiner is better, the later is the more enticing argument.
Your right beer has much more affect on our lives and our children's lives. Your on the wrong forum if you don't like confrontation and definetly in the wrong section. I have done my part to affect the outcome and will do so again if asked so don't tell me I can't do anything about the situation. I served, I voted, and I support troops daily and not just OIF vets but all vets. I don't piss on their memories or hide behind party politics. I state my beliefs and stand by them...something you have yet to do.

[Paladin]

Well if he can use the scroll function(not entirely sure he knows how at this moment), he can maybe...with the slimest of hope pull outta this. :D A good start would be to quote me and pick a stance. That would at least give him some footing to backtrack and affirm a position. As for his whole people want me to die thing, yea no he isn't going to win that.

He is just as wishy-washy as every liberal straight ticket Democrat that has ever come on this site. He throws out some opinions that he can't back up, and then cries when we make fun of him.

[gpamp]

Your right beer has much more affect on our lives and our children's lives. Your on the wrong forum if you don't like confrontation and definetly in the wrong section. I have done my part to affect the outcome and will do so again if asked so don't tell me I can't do anything about the situation. I served, I voted, and I support troops daily and not just OIF vets but all vets. I don't piss on their memories or hide behind party politics. I state my beliefs and stand by them...something you have yet to do.

Politically, my beliefs and yours differ. Ok. So?

[Denny]

Politically, my beliefs and yours differ. Ok. So?
Beliefs my ass. You just oppose everything (so far).

[usmcluke]

Politically, my beliefs and yours differ. Ok. So?
WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS? You don't like personal attacks but yet you grab for them so quickly. LOL.

[gpamp]

WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS? You don't like personal attacks but yet you grab for them so quickly. LOL.

I'm avoiding the arguing. I just don't think a bunch of guys like us, in this forum, yelling at each other, solves anything.

[Paladin]

Beliefs my ass. You just oppose everything (so far).

Hell, he even disagrees with the beliefs of the party he straight ticket votes for.

Let us know your beliefs on what your party stands for. Abortion, gay marriage, ACLU and it's support for NAMBLA, gun control, death penalty, taxes, etc.

Come on, I know you can do it! LOL

[Denny]

I'm avoiding the arguing. I just don't think a bunch of guys like us, in this forum, yelling at each other, solves anything.
It actually solves a lot. Didn't you know that this forum directly influences the Joint Chiefs, the House, the Senate, AND the Oval Office? We're still trying to gain UN influence, but I think we scare them too much.

[Denny]

Hell, he even disagrees with the beliefs of the party he straight ticket votes for.

Let us know your beliefs on what your party stands for. Abortion, gay marriage, ACLU and it's support for NAMBLA, gun control, death penalty, taxes, etc.

Come on, I know you can do it! LOL
Have I ever told you about my take on the ACLU? ;)

[usmcluke]

I'm avoiding the arguing. I just don't think a bunch of guys like us, in this forum, yelling at each other, solves anything.
Guys like YOU, don't include me in your douchebaggery. Your lack of position is reprehensible and further more your attempt to disagree with everything while maintaining that indifference is a true sign of cowardice. You make me sick despite the fact that I fought for your ability to be a disgusting excuse for an American and humanbeing.

[636ryder]

It actually solves a lot. Didn't you know that this forum directly influences the Joint Chiefs, the House, the Senate, AND the Oval Office? We're still trying to gain UN influence, but I think we scare them too much.

LOL!!

[Paladin]

Have I ever told you about my take on the ACLU? ;)

I have feeling it isn't very positive, but that is just a guess. :D :rolleyes:

[Paladin]

Guys like YOU, don't include me in your douchebaggery. Your lack of position is reprehensible and further more your attempt to disagree with everything while maintaining that indifference is a true sign of cowardice. You make me sick despite the fact that I fought for your ability to be a disgusting excuse for an American and humanbeing.

I agree.

[mikeb]

Your lack of position is reprehensible and further more your attempt to disagree with everything while maintaining that indifference is a true sign of cowardice.

Yep, we really aren't sure what gpamp stands for although it seems to slant to the left.

gpamp asks endless questions and talks about theoretical situations while not answering direct questions from others in the thread.

gpamp is critical of other people's positions while again failing to articulate or defend his own position.

These are the tactics of liberals. Refuse to be specific in any way while diverting the conversation at every turn. Ask questions while not answering any.

This is why gpamp is getting beaten on a little.

[Denny]

Don't gpamp around the question.

[gpamp]

Yep, we really aren't sure what gpamp stands for although it seems to slant to the left.

gpamp asks endless questions and talks about theoretical situations while not answering direct questions from others in the thread.

gpamp is critical of other people's positions while again failing to articulate or defend his own position.

These are the tactics of liberals. Refuse to be specific in any way while diverting the conversation at every turn. Ask questions while not answering any.

This is why gpamp is getting beaten on a little.

So, name calling and preferring people to be dead rather than deal with their different opinion, are tactics of the right?

[Denny]

So, name calling and preferring people to be dead rather than deal with their different opinion, are tactics of the right?
But you have thick skin, so you can take it, right? :rolleyes:

[gpamp]

But you have thick skin, so you can take it, right? :rolleyes:

I can take it. But it's immature, and excessive.

Whatever. I know it's fun to stir the pot sometimes.

[Denny]

I can take it. But it's immature, and excessive.

Whatever. I know it's fun to stir the pot sometimes.
But coming to reality is a good thing too. I hope you'll be there one day.

[usmcluke]

So, name calling and preferring people to be dead rather than deal with their different opinion, are tactics of the right?
I played nice until you attacked me and the Corps and it was over from there. Don't sling the shit if you don't want it back. Now go wash the sand out of your swollen pussy and service your boyfriend before he finds another cockgobbler that likes lightbulbs in his ass.

[mikeb]

So, name calling and preferring people to be dead rather than deal with their different opinion, are tactics of the right?

If you are going to participate in threads regarding politics or religion then I would suggest you either get thicker skin or choose to avoid them altogether. What was posted in this thread is actually quite mild; i'm on another board where they have a seperate forum just for threads like this one and i've seen members get new assholes ripped into them right before they were sent off crying. Rough and tumble :D

Personally name calling and personal attacks are not my style; I prefer a factual discssion because then maybe I can learn something from participating.

[Denny]

If you are going to participate in threads regarding politics or religion then I would suggest you either get thicker skin or choose to avoid them altogether. What was posted in this thread is actually quite mild; i'm on another board where they have a seperate forum just for threads like this one and i've seen members get new assholes ripped into them right before they were sent off crying. Rough and tumble :D

Personally name calling and personal attacks are not my style; I prefer a factual discssion because then maybe I can learn something from participating.
Links? I'm sooooo there!

[gpamp]

I played nice until you attacked me and the Corps and it was over from there. Don't sling the shit if you don't want it back. Now go wash the sand out of your swollen pussy and service your boyfriend before he finds another cockgobbler that likes lightbulbs in his ass.

I NEVER attacked the Corps, you dumbass. I was sarcastically saying that the Corps made you mature, because you were acting the opposite.

Is it 'roid rage? Or are you pissed that your screen name resembles "cumsucker"?

[Denny]

I NEVER attacked the Corps, you dumbass. I was sarcastically saying that the Corps made you mature, because you were acting the opposite.

Is it 'roid rage? Or are you pissed that your screen name resembles "cumsucker"?
Wow. Talk about personal attacks! And only someone like you can pull that name from his. Once again, you make things not what they appear. I believe it happens somewhere between the light leaving the screen and the time it's processed through your simple little mind.

[636ryder]

He still doesn't know what the scroll funcion is. All hope is lost this day. Yes you did attack him and his bretheren. It would be the equivalent of sayin " o your stupid cause your black"? Think about it...to the very best you can and your answer will hopefully bring you back into the light and you'll recant your ignorant statements.

[gpamp]

Wow. Talk about personal attacks! And only someone like you can pull that name from his. Once again, you make things not what they appear. I believe it happens somewhere between the light leaving the screen and the time it's processed through your simple little mind.

No. He's the only one slinging names around. So I gave him what he wanted. A response fitting of his posts involving his hatred.

I've got nothing personal against anyone in here.

Just figured I'd play along.

[Denny]

No. He's the only one slinging names around. So I gave him what he wanted. A response fitting of his posts involving his hatred.

I've got nothing personal against anyone in here.

Just figured I'd play along.
Thank you for lowering yourself to our standards...

[Denny]

He still doesn't know what the scroll funcion is. All hope is lost this day. Yes you did attack him and his bretheren. It would be the equivalent of sayin " o your stupid cause your black"? Think about it...to the very best you can and your answer will hopefully bring you back into the light and you'll recant your ignorant statements.
Y dey gotsta be black?

[usmcluke]

I NEVER attacked the Corps, you dumbass. I was sarcastically saying that the Corps made you mature, because you were acting the opposite.

Is it 'roid rage? Or are you pissed that your screen name resembles "cumsucker"?
You insinuated that I was immature due to the Marine Corps, not gonna fly bubba.

You assume that because I am a Marine that I am a large muscle bound dude. This again proves how much you know about about the Marine Corps and the military in general and your continued belief that your assumptions are facts.

My name resembles USMC Luke, your freudian obssesion with sucking cum has nothing to do with my screenname.

[Paladin]

I can take it. But it's immature, and excessive.

Whatever. I know it's fun to stir the pot sometimes.

So you are like a teenage girl, you run up to someone, throw out some inflammatory words, and then go hide when someone calls you on it? I guess that is what you define as stirring the pot, huh?

Now, answer the questions posed in the threads you are being called out on. Otherwise you will continue to be ridiculed, and frankly, until you answer, you deserve every bit of it.

[636ryder]

Y dey gotsta be black?

Ah this is true, well ok...throw any ethnical background in there and the point still stands.

[Denny]

Ah this is true, well ok...throw any ethnical background in there and the point still stands.
Bahahaha! Fuckin' Cubans!

[gpamp]

You insinuated that I was immature due to the Marine Corps, not gonna fly bubba.

You assume that because I am a Marine that I am a large muscle bound dude. This again proves how much you know about about the Marine Corps and the military in general and your continued belief that your assumptions are facts.

My name resembles USMC Luke, your freudian obssesion with sucking cum has nothing to do with my screenname.

I insinuated nothing of the sort. If anything I might've insinuated that you didn't get any maturity out of it. I know many Marines, and wouldn't dream of insulting the institution.

[636ryder]

Now, answer the questions posed in the threads you are being called out on. Otherwise you will continue to be ridiculed, and frankly, until you answer, you deserve every bit of it.

Also if you can go back and read what I said...I gave you a GREAT starting point. Dipshit!(gcamp that is)

[usmcluke]

If anything I might've insinuated that you didn't get any maturity out of it.
Well did you or didn't you? Fucking pussy, you even insult other poeple with ambiguity. Man up state your stance if you want to talk to shit then talk shit if you want to be the little cumcatcher bitch you appear to be right now then keep it up.

You have no views.
You have no opinions.
You have no ballsack.
You have no credibility.
You have no stance on anything.
You have no backbone.

You do have lots of unanswered questions.
You do have a boyfriend.
You do have a propensity to backpeddal.

[gpamp]

Well did you or didn't you? Fucking pussy, you even insult other poeple with ambiguity. Man up state your stance if you want to talk to shit then talk shit if you want to be the little cumcatcher bitch you appear to be right now then keep it up.

You have no views.
You have no opinions.
You have no ballsack.
You have no credibility.
You have no stance on anything.

You do have lots of unanswered questions.
You do have a boyfriend.
You do have a propensity to backpeddal.

You're right. I'm wrong. I'm a Republican now. You've totally won me over.

But I'm still not doing bareback, so stop asking.

[Denny]

You're right. I'm wrong. I'm a Republican now. You've totally won me over.

But I'm still not doing bareback, so stop asking.
OK Luke, you can add "You have no backbone" to that list.

[usmcluke]

OK Luke, you can add "You have no backbone" to that list.
Done. I don't think he gets it though. I just want him to state his views or shut the fuck up.

[gpamp]

Done. I don't think he gets it though. I just want him to state his views or shut the fuck up.

Every time I shut up, you sling a name at me, or some random insult.

Meaning, I don't think you want my views. Why would you? You know you're going to disagree with them.

[Denny]

Every time I shut up, you sling a name at me, or some random insult.
No, he's not complaining about your silence.

[AL P]

Every time I shut up, you sling a name at me, or some random insult.

Meaning, I don't think you want my views. Why would you? You know you're going to disagree with them.

I'll tell you what Gregory, you better stick to playing the god damn bass or the skin flute or whatever the fuck it is you play in that band, because you can't debate for shit.

[Paladin]

Every time I shut up, you sling a name at me, or some random insult.

Meaning, I don't think you want my views. Why would you? You know you're going to disagree with them.

Another post from you like a 14 year old girl.