Some see impeachment as an option

[Mustangman_2000]

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel is a decorated Vietnam War veteran, pro-lifer, and a fiscal conservative. He is also very outspoken and highly critical of President Bush regarding the Iraq War. I felt this was a very interesting perspective from a GOP Senator/War veteran.

GOP Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a frequent critic of the war, stopped short of calling for Bush's impeachment. But he made clear that some lawmakers viewed that as an option should Bush choose to push ahead despite public sentiment against the war.

"Any president who says, I don't care, or I will not respond to what the people of this country are saying about Iraq or anything else, or I don't care what the Congress does, I am going to proceed _ if a president really believes that, then there are _ what I was pointing out, there are ways to deal with that," said Hagel, who is considering a 2008 presidential run.


Hagel described Bush as someone who doesn't believe he's accountable to anyone. "He's not accountable anymore, which isn't totally true. You can impeach him, and before this is over, you might see calls for his impeachment. I don't know. It depends on how this goes," Hagel told the magazine.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/25/ap/politics/main2607223.shtml

[97blkpny]

Millions of peaches, peaches for free. Millions of peaches, peaches for me, LOOKOUT!...sorry...

[Mach1Marauder]

Tell me somethings Mr SlowAss.

What impeachable offense has Bush committed?

Where in the Constitution does it say that the President and Congress are JOINT COMMANDERS IN CHIEF of the military? :confused:

[97blkpny]

calling for Bush's impeachment. But he made clear that some lawmakers viewed that as an option should Bush choose to push ahead despite public sentiment against the war.


There is ALWAYS "public sentiment against war." That is not a reason for impeachment.

[Denny]

Ya, there hasn't been any offenses committed warranting an impeachment. Just because you don't see eye to eye with the President? He has executed his job within his given powers.

[Mach1Marauder]

Hagel is a retard anyway! :rolleyes: :D

[5111]

It won't do you guys any good to try and reason with him. If you look at his posts, probably half of them are political oriented. Mustangman_2000 is just here to stir the pot.

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[Stevo]

It won't do you guys any good to try and reason with him. If you look at his posts, probably half of them are political oriented. Mustangman_2000 is just here to stir the pot.

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He likes the virtual beatings, must have that gene that makes some women moist when they get spanked. ;)

Stevo

[Mach1Marauder]

It won't do you guys any good to try and reason with him. If you look at his posts, probably half of them are political oriented. Mustangman_2000 is just here to stir the pot.

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We know this Kojak. We just like to see him make a fool of himself and how he shows exactly how stupid he really is.

[Mach1Marauder]

He likes the virtual beatings, must have that gene that makes some women moist when they get spanked. ;)

Stevo
Ya think?

[Denny]

People like him do more damage for what he thinks is the right decisions than he realizes.

[Walsted]

Some see impeachment as an option...

...And some Senators see political opportunity where none exists. Being anti-Bush won't win a Republican primary, which happens before a presidential election, and being Republican really hurts his chances in a Democrat primary, so he no longer has a realistic chance at winning the presidency. And bringing up impeachment in this case shows he doesn't know the Constitution, which will hurt his chances with sentient voters, which could be a small demographic when you consider things like the Florida and Ohio voting incidents, and the number of people who think Jesse Jackson is looking out for anyone other than Jesse Jackson.

My prediction? Years from now, when people are looking at history and see that politicians used the Iraq situation purely for political gain, those that did will not be electable except by the lunatic fringe. It is a lose/lose situation in the long term for the anti-war crowd. If we stabilize Iraq, the anti- Iraq crowd was wrong. If we do not, it is because the anti-Iraq crowd forced troop pull-outs, which allowed the middle east stability to deteriorate, driving up gas prices to about $4/gal in Texas, and generally contributing to a less robust economy. Maybe being anti-war is a great short-term strategy, but it will hurt political careers in the long run.

Or I could be wrong.

[Fox466]

It won't do you guys any good to try and reason with him. If you look at his posts, probably half of them are political oriented. Mustangman_2000 is just here to stir the pot.

Posts by Mustangman_2000 (http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/search.php?searchid=1107036)


He has a good grasp of the language, and I give him kudos for that. However, in areas other than the application of said language, he's the equivalant of the fence post in my back yard.

[Denny]

He has a good grasp of the language, and I give him kudos for that. However, in areas other than the application of said language, he's the equivalant of the fence post in my back yard.
The broken post, right? Or is it the one your dog pees on?

[AL P]

Oh what the fuck ever....

The entire congress hasn't responded to what the people want in about 30 years.

[Mach1Marauder]

The broken post, right? Or is it the one your dog pees on?
No...........the broken one in HookEm's back yard. :D

[Shaithis]

Any senator that is suggesting impeachment of bush is looking for attention. They know it will never happen, but want to jump on the media bandwagon to get some air time.

[JP135]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

[99SVTour]

Oh what the fuck ever....

The entire congress hasn't responded to what the people want in about 30 years.

exactly, the douche bags in politics respond solely to the money/perks handed out by lobbyists, they dont give two shits about what we want except for that 6 month period before elections when they have to fool the swing votes into believing they are on the same page as the politicians.

[Mustangman_2000]

Hagel is a retard anyway! :rolleyes: :D

yes, that is the answer i was expecting.

they are retards if you don't like what they have to say or they oppose your point of view.

he's a highly decorated vietnam veteran...you would wouldn't be qualified to tie his shoes.

[46Tbird]

So is Bill... dummy.

[Mach1Marauder]

yes, that is the answer i was expecting.

they are retards if you don't like what they have to say or they oppose your point of view.

he's a highly decorated vietnam veteran...you would wouldn't be qualified to tie his shoes.
How do YOU know what medals I have? :confused:

[Mustangman_2000]

He likes the virtual beatings, must have that gene that makes some women moist when they get spanked. ;)

Stevo

let me explain something...

i keep posting in this forum because i enjoy the subject of politics.

you just don't get it. i'm not affected by your or anyone else's criticism. it's the auspicious side affect of having a life and having self-esteem.

i've seen people basically get run off of this site or get berated to the point where they say enough. i've had people join MM and specifically tell me how they are tired of the relentless bashing and e-thuggery at dfwstangs.

however, i have never been able to understand the concept of being damaged in some way by a e-conversation on a message board. :confused: nothing that happens on here would be anything you would take home with you. it's something to do while you are working and while your wife is watching soapnet in the evenings.

the internet is a cursory engagement of your senses while you are not occupied by something real or substantial at the moment. i've seen people on this site where that is not the case and it confuses me.

oh well.......this was just an interesting news tid bit on senator hagel. take it easy.

[Mach1Marauder]

let me explain something...

i keep posting in this forum because i enjoy the subject of politics.

you just don't get it. i'm not affected by your or anyone else's criticism. it's the auspicious side affect of having a life and having self-esteem.

i've seen people basically get run off of this site or get berated to the point where they say enough. i've had people join MM and specifically tell me how they are tired of the relentless bashing and e-thuggery at dfwstangs.

however, i have never been able to understand the concept of being damaged in some way by a e-conversation on a message board. :confused: nothing that happens on here would be anything you would take home with you. it's something to do while you are working and while your wife is watching soapnet in the evenings.

the internet is a cursory engagement of your senses while you are not occupied by something real or substantial at the moment. i've seen people on this site where that is not the case and it confuses me.

oh well.......this was just an interesting news tid bit on senator hagel. take it easy.
WOW!...........Typical Liberal "I'm better than you." Or "I know More than you." BS speach.

[Mustangman_2000]

and also the title of this thread is the title of the news article.

i think some people might not realize that and think it's me talking about impeachment.

just wanted to clarify.

[jyro]

let me explain something...
the internet is a cursory engagement of your senses while you are not occupied by something real or substantial" at the moment.

It seems between your posts here and your other sites you don't have time for "real or substantial" ideas. It's so much easier to let the liberals guide you than to form your own ideas from studying history and what is happening in the world today.

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[talisman]

Ohes noes, he is an Angry Wizard champion guys!!

[Fox466]

Dear God! Please tell me he hasn't really mastered all those games? Wow! What a truly impressive life outside the internet he has!

[Mach1Marauder]

Dear God! Please tell me he hasn't really mastered all those games? Wow! What a truly impressive life outside the internet he has!
I'm completely impressed!! :eek: :D

[Mustangman_2000]

It seems between your posts here and your other sites you don't have time for "real or substantial" ideas. It's so much easier to let the liberals guide you than to form your own ideas from studying history and what is happening in the world today.

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vBTetris Champion!
Witch-Hunt Champion!
KickUps Champion!
Mario Catcher Champion!
Mini KickUps Champion!
Money Money Money Champion!
Pedestrian Killer Champion!
Disco Racer Champion!
Golden Gate Drop Champion!
Target Champion!
Asteroids 2k3 Champion!
Graveyard Champion!
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Soaker Champion!
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i think this is the second time you brought this up. and i'll answer it once again.

that^ is called being bored at work imaging a bunch of machines with nothing else to do at the time. i no longer play video games on any site because after becoming the arcade champion on a few different sites i got burnt out.

[Casper]

You act like you are almost ashamed. I would be like "hels yeah biotch, you can't touch my mad skillz".

In fact it seems you constantly have to explain yourself, or put your own actions in context. Like you are wearing a mantle of guilt. Damn, let go and piss on some homeless person or run over a kitten for a change. It will make you feel good. Don't be a metrosexual, let your manimal out.

[Mustangman_2000]

You act like you are almost ashamed. I would be like "hels yeah biotch, you can't touch my mad skillz".

In fact it seems you constantly have to explain yourself, or put your own actions in context. Like you are wearing a mantle of guilt. Damn, let go and piss on some homeless person or run over a kitten for a change. It will make you feel good. Don't be a metrosexual, let your manimal out.

lol....point taken.

[talisman]

I'd like to add a token bit of hilarity by pointing out that the eclimation point after each "Champion!" gives it that little extra touch of elegance. I mean, seriously, "Yeti Sports 9: Final Spit Champion" just doesn't have the same ring as "Yeti Sports 9: Final Spit Champion!"

[99SVTour]

You act like you are almost ashamed. I would be like "hels yeah biotch, you can't touch my mad skillz".

In fact it seems you constantly have to explain yourself, or put your own actions in context. Like you are wearing a mantle of guilt. Damn, let go and piss on some homeless person or run over a kitten for a change. It will make you feel good. Don't be a metrosexual, let your manimal out.

maybe he has fallen into the grasp of "the white man's guilt"?

[Denny]

i think this is the second time you brought this up. and i'll answer it once again.

that^ is called being bored at work imaging a bunch of machines with nothing else to do at the time. i no longer play video games on any site because after becoming the arcade champion on a few different sites i got burnt out.
Too bad... that's an impressive list, there.

[46Tbird]

Too bad... that's an impressive list, there.
That's what I was thinking! I'm glad to know he's Boy Ninja Champion! as well, I would have been slaughtered in a Boy Ninja-off.

[Mach1Marauder]

That's what I was thinking! I'm glad to know he's Boy Ninja Champion! as well, I would have been slaughtered in a Boy Ninja-off.
YOU PUSSY! ;)

[Casper]

I'm not too sure about Chicken-in-a-basket champion though. I'm...curious enough...but not quite comfortable enough in my sexuality to check it out.

[Mustangman_2000]

I'm not too sure about Chicken-in-a-basket champion though. I'm...curious enough...but not quite comfortable enough in my sexuality to check it out.

actually, it's one of those games that's so stupid it's fun.

i think the last time i was active on that site was '05, so i don't really remember much about those games anymore.

i liked the yeti games, asteroids, and basketball games the most.

[96blackstang]

actually, it's one of those games that's so stupid it's fun.

i think the last time i was active on that site was '05, so i don't really remember much about those games anymore.

i liked the yeti games, asteroids, and basketball games the most.

If you follow that guys link it shows that you were on there Nov of 2005...so I really dont see what this has to do with this thread at all...its just a way to pass time when you are in a lull at work...I do the same here since I work 12.5 hour shifts, I dont play games but I do visit forums and see whats goin on...

[TexasDevilDog]

What is the impeachable offense? :confused:

[sbfordever]

http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/10045/Bush-Address-Imprisoned-Border-Agents/?page=19

Impeachable offense^

I can't believe I voted for Bush twice! He has taken the vow to protect us citizens and is not living up to it. Iraq's got their new govt. & Bush got Saddam Insane. What more does he want. Bring our people home, our borders are besieged.

[black01gt]

El Presidente Jorge Bush. :D :rolleyes:

[Fox466]

What is the impeachable offense? :confused:


There isn't one. Surely you recognize the patented democratic strategy. Level a charge, then let the topic of conversation shift without ever having proven out the original accusation. Then it's still out there and it can become AlPs signature...

[Mustangman_2000]

What is the impeachable offense? :confused:

i guess you didn't read what senator hagel said.

try re-reading what i quoted from his q&a and then check out the whole article.

the title of this thread is the title of the cbs news article.

this is his opinion on the matter and the reason i posted it was because he is a republican senator and a war veteran who is not a big fan of president bush or his current policies regarding iraq.

[Mustangman_2000]

There isn't one. Surely you recognize the patented democratic strategy. Level a charge, then let the topic of conversation shift without ever having proven out the original accusation. Then it's still out there and it can become AlPs signature...

has nothing to do with me.

i just simply quoted senator hagel in my initial post and cited the news source for the article.

this is his opinion and has nothing to do with democratic strategy considering these are statements made by senator hagel and he is a republican.

[Denny]

http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/10045/Bush-Address-Imprisoned-Border-Agents/?page=19

Impeachable offense^

I can't believe I voted for Bush twice! He has taken the vow to protect us citizens and is not living up to it. Iraq's got their new govt. & Bush got Saddam Insane. What more does he want. Bring our people home, our borders are besieged.
You make absolutely no sense, but at least you're slightly entertaining. You know, like the special olympics.

[Mach1Marauder]

You make absolutely no sense, but at least you're slightly entertaining. You know, like the special olympics.
De De De?

[TexasDevilDog]

http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/10045/Bush-Address-Imprisoned-Border-Agents/?page=19

Impeachable offense^

I can't believe I voted for Bush twice! He has taken the vow to protect us citizens and is not living up to it. Iraq's got their new govt. & Bush got Saddam Insane. What more does he want. Bring our people home, our borders are besieged.

FDR took a vow to protect the US citizens and Pearl Habor was attacked. Do you think that he should have been impeached?

[TexasDevilDog]

i guess you didn't read what senator hagel said.

try re-reading what i quoted from his q&a and then check out the whole article.

the title of this thread is the title of the cbs news article.

this is his opinion on the matter and the reason i posted it was because he is a republican senator and a war veteran who is not a big fan of president bush or his current policies regarding iraq.

You guessed wrong. Why don't you just quote the impeachable offense that would be covered by Article II Section 4 of the Constitution?

[AL P]

has nothing to do with me.

i just simply quoted senator hagel in my initial post and cited the news source for the article.

this is his opinion and has nothing to do with democratic strategy considering these are statements made by senator hagel and he is a republican.

Oh my god stop it with the "I just quoted...." crap.

You quoted some ignorant bullshit and now you look like an idiot. Again. Stop with the excuses and the games already.

[Mustangman_2000]

Oh my god stop it with the "I just quoted...." crap.

You quoted some ignorant bullshit and now you look like an idiot. Again. Stop with the excuses and the games already.

i quoted a republican senator giving his opinion.

sorry you can't handle it.

[sbfordever]

You make absolutely no sense, but at least you're slightly entertaining. You know, like the special olympics.

They don't read the links.

Saddam needed to be taken down.
He's dead.
The Iraqis needed a new chance.
They've got it now.
Let them run that Hellhole.
Islam is based on hate.
Bush does'nt understand this.
Maybe you don't either, olympian.
Our nation is open to illegals & insurgents.
Maybe you don't understand this either.
That is what the link is about and more.
He defends the illegals & won't pardon the U.S agents.
The illegal in the case was a drug smuggler.
With this Amnesty, Bush will easily give away our sovereignty. Not to mention our security. Which he intends to do. NAU
Hello!

[Denny]

They don't read the links.

Saddam needed to be taken down.
He's dead.
The Iraqis needed a new chance.
They've got it now.
Let them run that Hellhole.
Islam is based on hate.
Bush does'nt understand this.
Maybe you don't either, olympian.
Our nation is open to illegals & insurgents.
Maybe you don't understand this either.
That is what the link is about and more.
He defends the illegals & won't pardon the U.S agents.
The illegal in the case was a drug smuggler.
With this Amnesty, Bush will easily give away our sovereignty. Not to mention our security. Which he intends to do. NAU
Hello!

Oh... you're one of those who think that just because Saddam is gone, we can just pack up and go home. Nice. I'm all about the idea of leaving it a better place than when we entered it. Just going after Saddam and leaving is not and was never just the case. That would be something more along the lines as personal revenge. Our goal, like it always has been, is to make this world a better place. Now, I'm right there with you on everything else from unneeded illegal immigrant sympathy to the way the Border Patrol agents were handled in court. It disgusts me, but that has nothing to do with Iraq. Even if we had all are troops back here, do you really think things would be handled differently? Bush's stance on the illegals has nothing to do with anything else going on in this world. I truely believe he's afraid to tackle the problem and deal with it appropriately because so many people here already oppose him if he does so (like ACLU, LULAC, etc.). When he first gave the orders to enter Iraq, he had a strong following. Now that he's there, he's not going to leave it unfinished. He never had the support and never will have the support he needs to fight illegal immigration.

[sbfordever]

I'm all about the idea of leaving it a better place than when we entered it.

That's honorable but not realistic.
They don't want "Father Knows Best".
They don't want to make donuts or straighten bent fenders.
They would rather polish their sword or build a bomb.
In short; they don't want to be us.
Right now it is a better place than before.

[Denny]

There's still more room for improvement, just from what I've seen.