Democrats speakout about Iraq video

[jyro]

http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

[Mustangman_2000]

yep, members of my party did jump on the iraq bandwagon just like everyone else did after being shown the bogus and faulty intelligence at the time. absolutely, and they should own up to it and not rescind their original position.

and in that video you see a clip of hillary clinton. she is the only democratic leader to date that refuses to say voting for the war was a mistake.

and if i was to post something from an biased web site such as freedomagenda from it's liberal biased equivalent this thread would immediately get dismissed and discredited.

how about i counter your video of democrats saying there were WMDs with a video of president bush saying there are no WMDs in iraq and no connection between iraq and 9/11 WTC attack.

23 seconds - "we thought he had WMDs, it turns out he did not"

1:18 - what did iraq have to do with the attack on WTC. "nothing"

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[Pro Trash]

yep, members of my party did jump on the iraq bandwagon just like everyone else did after being shown the bogus and faulty intelligence at the time. absolutely, and they should own up to it and not rescind their original position.

and in that video you see a clip of hillary clinton. she is the only democratic leader to date that refuses to say voting for the war was a mistake.

and if i was to post something from an biased web site such as freedomagenda from it's liberal biased equivalent this thread would immediately get dismissed and discredited.

how about i counter your video of democrats saying there were WMDs with a video of president bush saying there are no WMDs in iraq and no connection between iraq and 9/11 WTC attack.

23 seconds - "we thought he had WMDs, it turns out he did not"

1:18 - what did iraq have to do with the attack on WTC. "nothing"

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Good point!

[Mustangman_2000]

thanks

[jyro]

yep, members of my party did jump on the iraq bandwagon just like everyone else did after being shown the bogus and faulty intelligence at the time.

How does that explain the first 4 that were, Albright, Bill Clinton, Berger and Dean in 1998. So who laid the ground work for the wmd lies as you call them, I don't call them lies no matter WHO told them, it was current world opinion, in 1998 AND in 2003. Video of these officials in 1998, no matter what site it's from is real and unaltered and indesputable proof that the Clinton administration saw the threat from Iraq just like Bush did. 9/11 caused action even though Iraq wasn't involved, they were still perceived as a threat to the USA.

Iraq study group 2004 findings http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/report/2004/isg-final-report/isg-final-report_vol1_rsi-05.htm

1999 Saddam asks Huwaysh how long it will take to build a CW production line

WMD Possession—Real or Imagined—Acts as a Deterrent

The Iran-Iraq war and the ongoing suppression of internal unrest taught Saddam the importance of WMD to the dominance and survival of the Regime. Following the destruction of much of the Iraqi WMD infrastructure during Desert Storm, however, the threats to the Regime remained; especially his perception of the overarching danger from Iran. In order to counter these threats, Saddam continued with his public posture of retaining the WMD capability. Saddam wanted to avoid appearing weak and did not reveal he was deceiving the world about the presence of WMD.

In the late 1990s, Saddam realized he had no WMD capabilities but his ego prevented him from publicly acknowledging that the Iraqi WMD program was ineffective.


other countries wmd in iraq intelligence
Germany's leading role in arming Iraq
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EB05Ak02.html
BND (German foreign intelligence service) evidence and assessments on the continued existence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (WMDs)

The reason the BND is well-informed of Iraqi WMD programs - nuclear, biological and chemical - is straightforward: since the early 1980s, it has monitored German exports of dual-use nuclear technologies, precursor chemicals for poison-gas weapons, and "pharmaceutical" products and equipment for biological weapons manufacture to the Middle East.

The BND's warnings in April 2001, Hanning told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper that Iraq was developing a new class of chemical weapons, reiterated his alert on Iraq's missile and nuclear programs, and said that several German companies had continued to deliver to Baghdad components needed for the production of poison gas. In March 2002, he told the New Yorker magazine that, "It is our estimate that Iraq will have an atomic bomb in three years."

Australiahttp://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/03/1096741897288.html?from=storylhs
Prime Minister John Howard statement to Parliament in February 2003 that: "The Australian Government knows that Iraq still has chemical and biological weapons and that Iraq wants to develop nuclear weapons."

UNSCOM was staffed by experts and support staff from many countries, including Australia. Scientists, army engineers, and diplomats all served in Iraq and came back to Australia with first-hand knowledge of the WMD situation.
In Australia in early 2003 there was a good resource of expertise on the matter that was purely Australian and not at all dependent upon US or British intelligence.

2003
JANUARY 27
UN chief weapons inspector Hans Blix reports that Iraq "appears not to have come to a genuine acceptance ... of the disarmament that was demanded".

[Vertnut]

Now, we all know that Bill Cinton was WAY too busy chasing booger around D.C., to have time to worry about penny-ante shit like WMD's... ;)