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Denny
03-01-2007, 06:38 AM
And so is my vote! Finally, I get to vote for someone I want, not the person I disagree with the least.
NEW YORK - Republican Sen. John McCain will officially enter the presidential race — his second run after a bitter loss to George W. Bush in 2000 — with a formal announcement in early April after a trip to Iraq.

The Arizona senator discussed the timing of the long-expected announcement with reporters at an awards reception Wednesday evening a few hours after taping an appearance on CBS’ “Late Show With David Letterman.”

McCain told Letterman: “The last time we were on this program, I’m sure you remember everything very clearly that we say, but you asked me if I would come back on this show if I was going to announce. ... I am announcing that I will be a candidate for president of the United States.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17389011/

ALLAN
03-01-2007, 07:11 AM
Rino :(

Denny
03-01-2007, 07:19 AM
Rino :(
Don't go straight ticket on me, ALLAN. I go for the person's thoughts on issues, not the party or claim of. Like I've said many times before, too much left or right is never a good thing.

ALLAN
03-01-2007, 07:47 AM
He is an anti. That's all I need to know.

Denny
03-01-2007, 08:11 AM
He is an anti. That's all I need to know.
I know he's not the NRA's best candidate, but I don't think he's really focused on that as much as other things right now. Either way, I think he'll leave us alone there. My only concern from him is his support for a guest worker program for illegal immigrants. If that's the worst thing I can think of from him right now, I can live with that (for now).

mikeb
03-01-2007, 08:34 AM
Rino :(

That's my impression also.

Vertnut
03-01-2007, 09:39 AM
I'm afraid he won't be nominated by the Republican Party. Guilliani is most likely going to be the candidate, like it or not. :o

46Tbird
03-01-2007, 10:35 AM
Not sure I can support him, he is far too soft on immigration.

He has undermined support for the Bush administration to the point that the Republicans won't have him in office. He'll have to run under an independent guise to get there.

Trip McNeely
03-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Dont care for him personally. My vote would be for Giulianni over him.

mardyn
03-01-2007, 12:26 PM
Another tired old white guy... yawn :(

I like McCain, just don't think he has much of a chance to get the nod.

mardyn

GT98SVO
03-01-2007, 12:31 PM
No major candidate for either party is pro-gun.

Trip McNeely
03-01-2007, 12:33 PM
Im really eyeing this Huckabee, the Gov of Arkansas. I hope he runs. I like a lot of what he has to say. He hasnt "officially" started yet though.

Strychnine
03-01-2007, 12:43 PM
Im really eyeing this Huckabee, the Gov of Arkansas. I hope he runs. I like a lot of what he has to say. He hasnt "officially" started yet though.


Tancredo is Pro 2A also.

Trip McNeely
03-01-2007, 12:51 PM
Tancredo is Pro 2A also.
Thats good to know. Do you know for sure about Huckabee? He seems like he would be too.

Strychnine
03-01-2007, 01:02 PM
Thats good to know. Do you know for sure about Huckabee? He seems like he would be too.




* Supports self-defense and `castle doctrine'. (Jan 2006)
* Allow concealed carry. (Nov 2002)

Gov. Mike Huckabee said that he would support legislation in Arkansas for a law like one passed in Florida last year to protect citizens who use deadly force in self-defense against criminal prosecution and civil liability. Huckabee told a caller to his monthly radio show that he has a permit to carry a concealed weapon and believes "there is an absolute right that people have to protect themselves and even their property."

During the show, a caller asked the governor what he thought of Florida's so-called "Castle Doctrine." Passed last year, the law states that any person has the right to "stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm." The name of the law is drawn from the adage that a man's home is his castle. "Personally, I think it's the way it ought to be," Huckabee said. "We ought to have the right to protect ourselves."


http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm

Maverick
03-01-2007, 01:09 PM
hmmm...

Trip McNeely
03-01-2007, 01:58 PM
* Supports self-defense and `castle doctrine'. (Jan 2006)
* Allow concealed carry. (Nov 2002)




http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm
Excellent news. :D

Fobra
03-01-2007, 07:07 PM
Great, another RINO

ALLAN
03-01-2007, 07:24 PM
Tancredo is Pro 2A also.

Didn't he advocate nuking Mecca from orbit?

black01gt
03-01-2007, 09:43 PM
My vote would be for Giulianni over him.
Other than doing his job by not running away and hiding (like Cheney) during 9-11 what has he done to make him presidential quality? He's been a mayor. No voting record. Just asking?

Trip McNeely
03-01-2007, 09:59 PM
Other than doing his job by not running away and hiding (like Cheney) during 9-11 what has he done to make him presidential quality? He's been a mayor. No voting record. Just asking?
What did Bill Clinton do before his governor term? Hmmmmmm....

Vertnut
03-01-2007, 10:17 PM
Other than doing his job by not running away and hiding (like Cheney) during 9-11 what has he done to make him presidential quality? He's been a mayor. No voting record. Just asking?
New York>Arkansas...

Mustangman_2000
03-01-2007, 10:49 PM
surprised me to see some of you support mccain.

his views on certain issues are in contrast with some he more conservative beliefs on see on hear.

* he thinks that same sex marriage ban is unrepublican and should be left to the states. voted no on constitutional ban on gay marriage.

* he would be comfortable with a gay president

* supports ban on certain assault weapons.

* voted yes for welfare block grants.

i think he has a good position on many issues and seems like a good candidate, but some of his stances aren't ultra conservative.

he's actually one of the best looking republican candidates i've seen in recent years.

black01gt
03-01-2007, 11:55 PM
What did Bill Clinton do before his governor term? Hmmmmmm....
oops...tough question. Quick, use the Clinton card!

Mustangman_2000
03-02-2007, 12:11 AM
What did Bill Clinton do before his governor term? Hmmmmmm....

* georgetown university, interned for sen. fullbright
* rhodes scholar
* yale law school
* managed presidential candidate george mcgovern's texas campaign
* worked in president carters campaign team
* became arkansas state attorney general
* became nations youngest governor
* u.s. president - 2 terms

Trip McNeely
03-02-2007, 12:22 AM
oops...tough question. Quick, use the Clinton card!
I was comparing the two, unlike you who uses your method of asking a completely different question off the subject to sidestep the issue. :rolleyes:

Trip McNeely
03-02-2007, 12:34 AM
* georgetown university, interned for sen. fullbright
* rhodes scholar
* yale law school
* managed presidential candidate george mcgovern's texas campaign
* worked in president carters campaign team
* became arkansas state attorney general
* became nations youngest governor
* u.s. president - 2 terms

-Giuliani

* New York University Law School in Manhattan, graduating magna cum laude in 1968.
* Clerked for Judge Lloyd MacMahon, United States District Judge for the Southern District of New York.
* 1970 Giuliani joined the office of the U.S. Attorney
* Named Chief of the Narcotics Unit.
* Served as executive US Attorney.
* Associate Deputy Attorney General and chief of staff to the Deputy Attorney General.
* Associate Attorney General, the third highest position in the Department of Justice.
* US Attorney for the Southern District of New York
* 4,152 convictions with only 25 reversals in his term.
* 107th Mayor of the City of New York, and re-elected in '97.

Under his mayoral term:

* Overall crime down 57%, murder was reduced 65%.
* New York recognized by the F.B.I. as the safest large city in America for the past five years.
* New York City's law enforcement strategies have become models for other cities around the world, particularly the CompStat program, which won the 1996 Innovations in Government Award from the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.
* Implemented the largest and most successful welfare-to-work initiative in the country, cutting welfare rolls in half while moving over 640,000 individuals from dependency on the government to the dignity of self-sufficiency.
* Enacted a record of over $2.5 billion in tax reductions - including the commercial rent tax, personal income tax, the hotel occupancy tax, and the sales tax on clothing for purchases up to $110 dollars.
*Turned an inherited $2.3 billion dollar budget deficit into a multi-billion dollar surplus, have led the City to an era of broad-based growth with a record 450,000 new private sector jobs created in the past seven years.
* Created the Administration for Children's Services.
* Launched the New York City Charter School Improvement Fund, the first fund ever offered by a city government to help charter schools with equipment and facilities costs.


Yeah, Giuliani is way underqualified... :rolleyes:

btw, this comment ^^ was meant for 'black01gt' since he infers Giuliani to be inferior to a presidential race.

Mustangman_2000
03-02-2007, 01:10 AM
i have to agree with you on giuliani doing a great job at reducing overall crime in new york.

ALLAN
03-02-2007, 05:28 AM
i think charlie messed him up

D
03-02-2007, 07:21 AM
Tancredo is Pro 2A also.

If Tancredo runs, he gets my vote.

46Tbird
03-02-2007, 09:44 AM
surprised me to see some of you support mccain.

his views on certain issues are in contrast with some he more conservative beliefs on see on hear.

* he thinks that same sex marriage ban is unrepublican and should be left to the states. voted no on constitutional ban on gay marriage.

* he would be comfortable with a gay president

* supports ban on certain assault weapons.

* voted yes for welfare block grants.

i think he has a good position on many issues and seems like a good candidate, but some of his stances aren't ultra conservative.

he's actually one of the best looking republican candidates i've seen in recent years.Wow, so maybe we're actually hard-working voters who are FREE THINKERS and endorse conservative values that actually impact our daily lives. Who gives a shit about a national BAN on gay marriage? Just a very few at the top. I don't agree with gay marriage, but that is a states' issue IMO.

I believe the 2nd Amendment is in place to make sure the populace can protect themselves from a corrupt government. When it was written, it was to make sure that everyday people had the same weapons as the men in uniform to be able to fight toe to toe. Now with nuclear weapons that isn't a great idea, so a line has to be drawn somewhere, right? It's a touchy subject. I think assault weapons should be licensed, and illegal possession results in a felony.

I don't believe in welfare, I believe in charity. Government can't tax the populace into prosperity. Government benefits should only be given to men and women who serve in the military, and those that are physically or mentally unable to support themselves. Having too many children is one (two?) persons poor decision making, that doesn't mean that it is another taxpayer's obligation to provide assitance.

I think the biggest issue facing America is the 5-10% of the population that shouldn't be here in the first place. I want to see someone begin a pushback to the overwhelming burden of illegal immigration. Start fining employers and putting management in prison for degrading the quality of life of the blue-collar American. When there are no jobs available, there won't be an issue. Oh yes, making English the national language is not racist, it is maximizing opportunities for everyone in the country. If I can go to Asia and speak with half the population in English, there is no reason whatsoever that people actually IN this country can't speak it too.

32VfromHell
03-03-2007, 12:18 PM
Other than doing his job by not running away and hiding (like Cheney) during 9-11 what has he done to make him presidential quality? He's been a mayor. No voting record. Just asking?


a REALLY poor argument considering clinton ran to fucking canada to avoid responsibility.

Fobra
03-03-2007, 02:22 PM
If Tancredo runs, he gets my vote.
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