Who else has a TKO and did it slow you down? [Archive]

Green1995GT

11-14-2006, 08:40 PM

1994SilverGT

11-14-2006, 08:42 PM

i have no times proving i slowed down, but you know i cant shift second worth a damn anymore either.

STROKD

11-14-2006, 09:49 PM

They aren't as smooth as a T5, but they will last a lot longer...

I dunno, I never had a T5 with my setup. My TKO 500 is faster to shift than my bent shift forked 3550 that didn't go in gear. :o

turbostang

11-14-2006, 10:42 PM

sleeperLS

11-14-2006, 10:47 PM

my 3550 with the pro 5.0 is a bitch to get into 2nd sometimes. but every other gear is like butter. I like mine notchy as hell have to put some muscle into it.

Skidonenko

11-14-2006, 10:52 PM

Go hit the gym

OMEGA DOOM

11-15-2006, 05:51 AM

GR8WHITE

11-15-2006, 12:27 PM

I had a T-5 in my car and I ran 7.98 @ 85 and now I have a TKO and more power but I cant shift 2nd fast at all and now my best is 8.04 @89.

Is there a different kind of fluid I should try to get it to shift 1st to 2nd any faster. I use the GM synchromesh.

I also thought it was messed up so I had Standard Transmission rebuild it (New Bearings, Synchros and the Cluster that has second gear on it. Now it doesnt make noise like it used to but still it will not go into gear fast.

Or could my clutch be the problem I have a Ram Power Grip HD.

thanks,
Kevin

I had the exact same setup for tranny/clutch/shifter and experienced the same problems as well, got frustrated and sold the whole setup after 1500 miles. It was nearly impossible to speed or powershift in 2nd gear..

Any time you can't shift as fast of course you are going to slow down...I have been told that the TKO's have an unusually long break in period, but don't know this for a fact since I sold the POS. My TKO was costing me around 2/10's through the 1/4 mile....My standard 3550 was smooth as glass, up until the time it left the output shaft in my driveshaft in Denton one night (before the track really sucked).... I was extremely dissapointed with the TKO. Get a Viper spec. T-56!!!

STROKD

11-15-2006, 01:30 PM

I had the exact same setup for tranny/clutch/shifter and experienced the same problems as well, got frustrated and sold the whole setup after 1500 miles. It was nearly impossible to speed or powershift in 2nd gear..

Any time you can't shift as fast of course you are going to slow down...I have been told that the TKO's have an unusually long break in period, but don't know this for a fact since I sold the POS. My TKO was costing me around 2/10's through the 1/4 mile....My standard 3550 was smooth as glass, up until the time it left the output shaft in my driveshaft in Denton one night (before the track really sucked).... I was extremely dissapointed with the TKO. Get a Viper spec. T-56!!!
You sold it to my friend I think... And his car got slower too and he ended up selling it for a Vette. :o

Green1995GT

11-15-2006, 02:09 PM

The problem is most likely the shifter - If I had to guess you probably have a pro50?
I've just recently switched to a STeeda Tri-Ax for the 2nd time and love it. The pro50 is just to "notchy" feeling and not smooth at all. Also be sure the clutch is properly adjusted. That can make alll the difference in the world.

Yeah I have a Steeda Tri-Ax on it. I have tried adjusting the clutch from all the way too tight to all the way to loose. I am really thinking about a T-56, but I would like to get this one to shift good before I sell it.

The way the clutch is now it just wont go to second fast at all but the 3rd and 4th shift I can just slide it right in. Standard transmission told me to try and use ATF and then 5W-30 and if it doesnt get better than they will redo it again.

Kevin

90GT50

11-15-2006, 02:13 PM

my 3550 with the pro 5.0 is a bitch to get into 2nd sometimes. but every other gear is like butter. I like mine notchy as hell have to put some muscle into it.Mine is usually hard to get into third with the pro 50, and 3550.

turbostang

11-15-2006, 02:25 PM

Yeah I have a Steeda Tri-Ax on it. I have tried adjusting the clutch from all the way too tight to all the way to loose. I am really thinking about a T-56, but I would like to get this one to shift good before I sell it.

The way the clutch is now it just wont go to second fast at all but the 3rd and 4th shift I can just slide it right in. Standard transmission told me to try and use ATF and then 5W-30 and if it doesnt get better than they will redo it again.

Kevin

Interesting. I'd try a different fluid before anything too drastic. The last one I did, shifted better than any of them I owned, it had a tri-ax and royal purple. What kind of clutch is in the car now?

1994SilverGT

11-15-2006, 02:38 PM

Interesting. I'd try a different fluid before anything too drastic. The last one I did, shifted better than any of them I owned, it had a tri-ax and royal purple. What kind of clutch is in the car now?

I have the Ram PowerGrip HD. I was thinking of switching the clutch out, I heard other people didnt always like these. The Centerforce Dual Friction seemed to be the choice everyone told me to go with.

<--------Green1995GT

turbostang

11-15-2006, 02:41 PM

I have the Ram PowerGrip HD. I was thinking of switching the clutch out, I heard other people didnt always like these. The Centerforce Dual Friction seemed to be the choice everyone told me to go with.

<--------Green1995GT

I'm not familiar with that one, although, I had the centerforce and it was badass. It shifted smooth as hell then - but that's all the stuff I had on the car when it was perfect. Tri-Ax, Synchromax, and the DF clutch - I later switched to a race only spec clutch. It shifted pretty damn good too.

90GT50

11-15-2006, 02:41 PM

DatDude

11-15-2006, 02:49 PM

Did you really lose .06 and gain 4 mph? Sounds like a good trade to me.
With those TKO's, just slam the shit out of hem. They'll go into gear.

90GT50

11-15-2006, 02:50 PM

Did you really lose .06 and gain 4 mph? Sounds like a good trade to me.
With those TKO's, just slam the shit out of hem. They'll go into gear.He also said he added some more power, so I'm guessing that's where the mph came from.

Green1995GT

11-15-2006, 03:22 PM

Did you really lose .06 and gain 4 mph? Sounds like a good trade to me.
With those TKO's, just slam the shit out of hem. They'll go into gear.

yeah I added Heads and a better intake and 50 shot more on the bottle.

No it will not go into gear, if I try to powershift it is like there is a brick wall there, no grinding or anything it just will not go. I tried to pull the shit out of it when I went to the track one time and all it did was make my hand fly off of the shifter.

Kevin

bert89coupe

11-15-2006, 04:43 PM

yeah I added Heads and a better intake and 50 shot more on the bottle.

No it will not go into gear, if I try to powershift it is like there is a brick wall there, no grinding or anything it just will not go. I tried to pull the shit out of it when I went to the track one time and all it did was make my hand fly off of the shifter.

Kevin

it's your clutch, i loved my spec stage 3 when i had a 3550 and a tko.

or possibly just your clutch cable?????

p.s. bunch of no shifting bastards :p

46Tbird

11-15-2006, 04:49 PM

Get your trans guy to remove every other tooth on the second gear set... that'll make them go together faster.

lol.

Green1995GT

11-15-2006, 05:05 PM

it's your clutch, i loved my spec stage 3 when i had a 3550 and a tko.

or possibly just your clutch cable?????

p.s. bunch of no shifting bastards :p

I think I will get a new clutch then, and try that first. Then if it doesnt work I will just save up for a T-56 and go that route. (first I will try different fluid in the Trans but I really just dont see that changing anything.) I will keep my fingers crossed though.

Thanks for the ideas,

And maybe I let my car sit to long so now I am a no shifting bastard.

Green1995GT

11-15-2006, 05:06 PM

Get your trans guy to remove every other tooth on the second gear set... that'll make them go together faster.

lol.

sweet thats what I will do. ;)

Thanks,
Kevin

46Tbird

11-15-2006, 05:06 PM

Wait till you're really REALLY mad and want it gone and then sell it to me cheap. :D

bert89coupe

11-15-2006, 05:16 PM

I think I will get a new clutch then, and try that first. Then if it doesnt work I will just save up for a T-56 and go that route. (first I will try different fluid in the Trans but I really just dont see that changing anything.) I will keep my fingers crossed though.

Thanks for the ideas,

And maybe I let my car sit to long so now I am a no shifting bastard.

like Danny said, let me know when you're ready to sell it :D

Juiced4V

11-15-2006, 05:20 PM

clutch might need to be adjusted

Green1995GT

11-15-2006, 05:29 PM

clutch might need to be adjusted

I have tried with it being all the way too tight and just loosening 1 turn at a time and driving it again until it was way too loose and still in the good spot it will go to the other gears just not second.

Whitebread

11-15-2006, 08:52 PM

I run an old TKO/Zoom Kevlar/Tri-Ax/Synchromesh/steel flywheel and love it.

Seems easier to shift the harder/faster I powershift. I'm so used to it around town, it feels like a T-5 to me. Guess I got a good rebuild!!

Robbie

lee earley

11-15-2006, 09:00 PM

Green1995GT

11-16-2006, 11:19 AM

i went from 7.20s to 6.90s(went from c6 to tko), then i finally ended up at 6.75 before i sold mine. it sounds like you just need a driver to me...im not hattin just being honest. and what kind of clutch cable do you have?

BBK clutch cable, and I think I can drive but you dont understand it just wont go into gear, I can powershift third and fourth but no matter what I do it wont go into second, if I just need the driver mod I would think I couldnt get third or fourth either.

STROKD

11-16-2006, 11:49 AM

BBK clutch cable, and I think I can drive but you dont understand it just wont go into gear, I can powershift third and fourth but no matter what I do it wont go into second, if I just need the driver mod I would think I couldnt get third or fourth either.
Somethings wrong with it man, my 3550 did the same shit, turns out the synchro was bad and the shift fork was bent... the guy who bought it from me said it had lots of shit wrong with it. He fixed everything and says it still shifts a little tough cause of the slight misallignment of second and third gear that he couldn't fix. :o

kwikstang91

11-16-2006, 11:57 AM

Mine is usually hard to get into third with the pro 50, and 3550.

My 3550 and pro 50 is hard to get into 3rd also. Anyone recommend a diff. shifter. I was going to order one from UPR but they don't make it for tremec no more.

STROKD

11-16-2006, 12:06 PM

My 3550 and pro 50 is hard to get into 3rd also. Anyone recommend a diff. shifter. I was going to order one from UPR but they don't make it for tremec no more.
MGW everyone... they make the best shifter on the planet...

If someone with a Tremec TKO 500/600 wants to buy a low mileage pro 5.0, let me know so I can buy a MGW. :)

kwikstang91

11-16-2006, 12:30 PM

MGW everyone... they make the best shifter on the planet...

If someone with a Tremec TKO 500/600 wants to buy a low mileage pro 5.0, let me know so I can buy a MGW. :)

What is this MGW?

STROKD

11-16-2006, 12:50 PM

What is this MGW?
http://www.mgwltd.com/mustang_shifter.shtml

New design, fully adjustable... HPP sells em, that's where I got mine. ;)

Ask anyone with a Cobra, I guess we are the only guys who know about these damn things...

My buddy hllywood with the TT Viper on this site has one as well.

kwikstang91

11-16-2006, 12:55 PM

I guess they don't make one for my 3550?

lee earley

11-16-2006, 02:49 PM

BBK clutch cable, and I think I can drive but you dont understand it just wont go into gear, I can powershift third and fourth but no matter what I do it wont go into second, if I just need the driver mod I would think I couldnt get third or fourth either.

is it an adjustable clutch cable? if so put a stock cable on it...i had hell with both of my tko's and i put stock cables on them and they worked great.

Green1995GT

11-16-2006, 04:33 PM

Somethings wrong with it man, my 3550 did the same shit, turns out the synchro was bad and the shift fork was bent... the guy who bought it from me said it had lots of shit wrong with it. He fixed everything and says it still shifts a little tough cause of the slight misallignment of second and third gear that he couldn't fix. :o

I guess I will take it back to standard transmission and have them fix it is still under warranty and I had told them before to fix anything inside that looks messed up at all.

By the way what gears do you run in your 86.

Kevin

Green1995GT

11-16-2006, 04:34 PM

is it an adjustable clutch cable? if so put a stock cable on it...i had hell with both of my tko's and i put stock cables on them and they worked great.

I will try that along with changing the fluid in it before I take it back to them.

Skidonenko

11-16-2006, 05:01 PM

I guess they don't make one for my 3550?

I know the old tko and 3550 used the same shifter so i would guess that the tko-500/600 would be what you are looking for

1994SilverGT

11-16-2006, 05:15 PM

i went from 7.20s to 6.90s(went from c6 to tko), then i finally ended up at 6.75 before i sold mine. it sounds like you just need a driver to me...im not hattin just being honest. and what kind of clutch cable do you have?

I wouldnt say it is driver error. He can drive pretty well, ive ridden with him a few times in the past and he can outdrive anyone ive ever ridden with. Im pretty sure its something in the drivetrain.

hstang

11-16-2006, 08:58 PM

Change the fluid over to GM synchromax, should help it alot.

93blowngreenlx

11-16-2006, 09:11 PM

I have one that did the same thing. I could not get second going up or down unless i double clutched it. Took it to Slim's and he fixed me up with a new second and synchros and shift fork and a triax shifter and it seemed much better the few times I was able to drive it.

Joelfastford

11-16-2006, 10:00 PM

I have the same problem with mine also it will not go into gear if you try to shift fast. I have a tri-ax also and a spec stage 2.Mine will not go into gear over 5500 rpm with tires on,but I can shift at 6000 rpm with street tires. What is the deal with these things.Iam thinking about going to an auto!

90GT50

11-16-2006, 11:51 PM

Change the fluid over to GM synchromax, should help it alot.I think he's using it, I know it's in mine, and it's still very notchy, and hard to get into some gears.

Green1995GT

11-17-2006, 08:23 AM

Change the fluid over to GM synchromax, should help it alot.

It is called GM Synchromesh and if you would read the post you would know that is what I have in there.

turbostang

11-17-2006, 08:46 AM

Perhaps he's got the Royal Purple Synchromax mixed up with the GM Synchromesh :confused:

FATHERFORD

11-17-2006, 08:53 AM

Somethings wrong with it man, my 3550 did the same shit, turns out the synchro was bad and the shift fork was bent... the guy who bought it from me said it had lots of shit wrong with it. He fixed everything and says it still shifts a little tough cause of the slight misallignment of second and third gear that he couldn't fix. :o

Werd, we even had a certified tremec rebuilder take a look at it. He even couldnt figure out where the extra 16thousanths is coming from. It's not bad, just annoying. I have came to get used to it now.

90GT50

11-17-2006, 09:56 AM

Perhaps he's got the Royal Purple Synchromax mixed up with the GM Synchromesh :confused:Possibly, I bought my 3550 from Noah, and he told me to only use synchromesh, and that's what I did. He also told me not to use redline trans fluid specifically, but I don't remember why.

turbostang

11-17-2006, 10:03 AM

Possibly, I bought my 3550 from Noah, and he told me to only use synchromesh, and that's what I did. He also told me not to use redline trans fluid specifically, but I don't remember why.

I've had about 8 tremecs, maybe 10. I've tried everything under the sun to make them shift good. They are notorious for bieng hard to shift even when they are in perfect working order. I had one built by S.T.A.G. a long time ago - they said to use straight 30W motor oil in it :confused: It was pretty good like that, but the best one I ever had used synchromax and a Tri-ax. It was perfect.
Of course the clutch had a ton to do with it as well. That one had a Spec stage 3 or 4 clutch. (the one they say is "race only")

90GT50

11-17-2006, 10:05 AM

I've had about 8 tremecs, maybe 10. I've tried everything under the sun to make them shift good. They are notorious for bieng hard to shift even when they are in perfect working order. I had one built by S.T.A.G. a long time ago - they said to use straight 30W motor oil in it :confused: It was pretty good like that, but the best one I ever had used synchromax and a Tri-ax. It was perfect.
Of course the clutch had a ton to do with it as well. That one had a Spec stage 3 or 4 clutch. (the one they say is "race only")
Weird, I'll try some shit like that with mine eventually and see what works.

Juiceweezl

11-17-2006, 10:12 AM

<==== Has a TKO 600 with the shifter that came with it, GM Synchromesh, and a RAM dual friction clutch. It's a little stiffer to shift than the stock tranny was, but it goes right into gear if I just get behind it and push. I can slam through all the gears just fine going down the track. I made a baseball shifter knob, so I just put my whole hand behind it and push/pull. It's definitely easier to shift the warmer the car gets/more the fluid warms up. Are you sure you haven't lost time because of the gear ratio change? Isn't first gear a little longer than the stock tranny?

STROKD

11-17-2006, 02:19 PM

I guess I will take it back to standard transmission and have them fix it is still under warranty and I had told them before to fix anything inside that looks messed up at all.

By the way what gears do you run in your 86.

Kevin
3.55s.

STROKD

11-17-2006, 02:20 PM

I know the old tko and 3550 used the same shifter so i would guess that the tko-500/600 would be what you are looking for
3550/TKO same, TKO 500 and TKO 600 same but different from old TKO/3550 style.

STROKD

11-17-2006, 02:22 PM

Werd, we even had a certified tremec rebuilder take a look at it. He even couldnt figure out where the extra 16thousanths is coming from. It's not bad, just annoying. I have came to get used to it now.
You were one of the only people who knows... everyone else just thinks I can't drive... :D

Jimi G

11-17-2006, 02:44 PM

I would suggest going to the Steeda Tri-Ax shifter as well, you will love the smooth and short shifts. jimig@standardtransmission.com

FATHERFORD

11-17-2006, 02:48 PM

You were one of the only people who knows... everyone else just thinks I can't drive... :D

Werd

I need to bring my 84 up there to play, only a measly 450rwhp w/o spray but I dont care. Just want to have some fun...

STROKD

11-17-2006, 02:50 PM

Werd

I need to bring my 84 up there to play, only a measly 450rwhp w/o spray but I dont care. Just want to have some fun...
You can run my Cobra, that would be fun... I get my new Hoosiers for it someday, haven't decided when to get em, but it should be within the next month. :D

FATHERFORD

11-21-2006, 09:21 AM

You can run my Cobra, that would be fun... I get my new Hoosiers for it someday, haven't decided when to get em, but it should be within the next month. :D

Sounds like a plan. I can blaim my pitiful shifting on the tranny ;)