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Mach1Marauder
11-12-2006, 08:04 PM
Why in the fuck if they stopped racing and a BUNCH of people seen my damn fireball from hell, NO FIRE CREW CAME DOWN TO CHECK ON ME?
I had already walked over to see what blew off the car, picked up some stuff of the track and the guy I was racing gave me a ride back to my car, before ANY track personel came over....one EMS lady and one guy in a cart with no fire equipment.
The guy I was racing put out the fire in the grass the my air filter caused.
I had a fire under the hood for a LONG way down the track.

THIS WAS NOT COOL AT ALL!
CobraChic
11-12-2006, 08:08 PM
You are still able to get out walk around so SHUT IT!! = p

Just joking..
SSMAN
11-12-2006, 08:08 PM
That is not right Bill. Sorry about Louise.
FRANCISCO308
11-12-2006, 08:10 PM
sorry to hear about your car .
SVT Lurch
11-12-2006, 08:10 PM
That sucks! What happened to the car?
0SVT3
11-12-2006, 08:11 PM
that sucks
musclestang89
11-12-2006, 08:16 PM
damn Bill I must had left before that happen. Man that sucks. Hope it wasn't anything major. If it was time for the stroker and twins :D
Super Coupe
11-12-2006, 08:16 PM
:( Why in the fuck if they stopped racing and a BUNCH of people seen my damn fireball from hell, NO FIRE CREW CAME DOWN TO CHECK ON ME?
I had already walked over to see what blew off the car, picked up some stuff of the track and the guy I was racing gave me a ride back to my car, before ANY track personel came over....one EMS lady and one guy in a cart with no fire equipment.
The guy I was racing put out the fire in the grass the my air filter caused.
I had a fire under the hood for a LONG way down the track.

THIS WAS NOT COOL AT ALL!

I walked by your car as it was going into the trailer and was wondering why it looked like you have a lift off hood. That sucks.
Mach1Marauder
11-12-2006, 08:30 PM
That sucks! What happened to the car?
BOOMBITCH!! LOL!......a noid stuck.......even with no power to the system! :eek:
SVT Lurch
11-12-2006, 09:34 PM
LOL, that'll do it. Sorry to hear man.
slow99
11-12-2006, 09:35 PM
BOOMBITCH!! LOL!......a noid stuck.......even with no power to the system! :eek:

That sucks, sorry to hear that man.
slow55
11-12-2006, 09:37 PM
once you're off the track they couldn't care whats going on.
turbostang
11-12-2006, 09:40 PM
My first guess is no one saw it. I was watching the car most of the way down the track and I guess I turned at just the right time and didn't see it either. From where I was standing, you coudln't even see the car, Or I don't remember seeing it.

You can't see everything, everytime. unfortunately. At least Louise will live to see another day at the track.
Mach1Marauder
11-12-2006, 10:05 PM
once you're off the track they couldn't care whats going on.
Ok..........MORE of a reason to findout! Do they need to see indian smoke signals?
slow55
11-12-2006, 10:15 PM
Ok..........MORE of a reason to findout! Do they need to see indian smoke signals?
If it would have been a chevy they would have been down there in about 15 seconds. :p
Beenfetchedlately
11-12-2006, 10:19 PM
Un fortunately Bill being a nitrous newbie as you are...the car should have been killed instead of killing power to the noids man...if its hung power isnt going to unstick it unfortunately. :(
mutherjuggz
11-12-2006, 10:19 PM
If it would have been a chevy they would have been down there in about 15 seconds. :p


at most LOL!!

I think they secretly hate Louise Bill! :eek:
slowbrick
11-12-2006, 10:22 PM
Un fortunately Bill being a nitrous newbie as you are...the car should have been killed instead of killing power to the noids man...if its hung power isnt going to unstick it unfortunately. :(
hate to say it hutto is right.
Beenfetchedlately
11-12-2006, 10:24 PM
hate to say it hutto is right.but im a dumb ass! ;) :p :(
Phoenix383
11-12-2006, 10:27 PM
but im a dumb ass! ;) :p :(

Very true but thats beside the point on the table! ;)

And you ignored me when I yelled at ya Hoe! :mad:
Beenfetchedlately
11-12-2006, 10:51 PM
Very true but thats beside the point on the table! ;)

And you ignored me when I yelled at ya Hoe! :mad:

Fuck man you know we were messing with Boosted's car as always...trying to find stuff get stuff sold for raffle tickets with the event etc...Yell louder next time. I might hear ya! :rolleyes:
Phoenix383
11-12-2006, 10:56 PM
Fuck man you know we were messing with Boosted's car as always...trying to find stuff get stuff sold for raffle tickets with the event etc...Yell louder next time. I might hear ya! :rolleyes:


I can understand that but louder shit I think I pulled a vocal cord! ;)
Mach1Marauder
11-13-2006, 03:37 AM
Un fortunately Bill being a nitrous newbie as you are...the car should have been killed instead of killing power to the noids man...if its hung power isnt going to unstick it unfortunately. :(

Oh Bull!
Prove your point!
SNEAKY
11-13-2006, 04:41 AM
My first guess is no one saw it..
EMS lady told me it look like a fire ball rolling down the track. i am not sure if she meant Bill's airfilter or his car, but she saw something.
Beenfetchedlately
11-13-2006, 07:41 AM
Oh Bull!
Prove your point! Are you kidding!

Assuming the car was not at WOT and the timing is much HIGHER, fuel and dope are still getting into the intake track and will ignite at the WRONG time....IE timing...Too much or too little does the same thing. BOOM!

Cut the car off when you sense the juice is still flowing...once you get the engine shut down, cut the bottles off too!

Pull the hood off unplug ignition and pull plugs if you have to...Spin the motor over for a little while and pump all the nitrous and fuel mixtures out the cylinders...and wammy. You still have a nice hood and intake intact for that Mach.

This is another reason WHY i dont mount bottles out of drivers reach! Theres nothing better then cutting the bottles off manually when something hangs open...You just learned that expensive and hard lesson...It hits you in the pocket book :(
Juiced4V
11-13-2006, 08:00 AM
yeah that was me you were racing man......my shoes have a hole on the bottom now :o ...but I at least I put the fire out...and yeah it took them like 4 minutes to come down there and they still let some cars run after that happend...air filter flew out the fender and rolled on to the dry grass....I still got some some parts of your JLT in my car :D
302_plus_a_few
11-13-2006, 08:05 AM
The guy I was racing put out the fire in the grass the my air filter caused.
I had a fire under the hood for a LONG way down the track.

THIS WAS NOT COOL AT ALL!Now THAT sounded like a nice BOOM BITCH! Wish I had been there to see it! Sucks that you blew it up though...
dan03mach
11-13-2006, 08:18 AM
Un fortunately Bill being a nitrous newbie as you are...the car should have been killed instead of killing power to the noids man...if its hung power isnt going to unstick it unfortunately. :(
That is exactly what I told him, but shit happens and it sucks ass that is for sure.. I only had a noid stick close on me before never open. Those were brand new noids too, makes me wonder why it got stuck..
Beenfetchedlately
11-13-2006, 08:25 AM
That is exactly what I told him, but shit happens and it sucks ass that is for sure.. I only had a noid stick close on me before never open. Those were brand new noids too, makes me wonder why it got stuck..
Solenoids get stuck from trash 90% of the time...

I believe he is even running a standalone fuel setup correct?

If thats the case, i bet he puts a fuel filter on that setup as well as a nitrous filter in the main line to catch that shit!!!
dan03mach
11-13-2006, 08:26 AM
Solenoids get stuck from trash 90% of the time...

I believe he is even running a standalone fuel setup correct?

If thats the case, i bet he puts a fuel filter on that setup as well as a nitrous filter in the main line to catch that shit!!!
No he wasn't running a stand alone.. Just the line off the fuel rail.. I know he has a Nitrous filter inline.. I don't use a Nitrous filter but I do have one on my main bottle at home I use to fill my tanks with..
turbostang
11-13-2006, 08:37 AM
Solenoids can alos freeze open from excessive bottle pressure - You'll have problems getting it to "hit" and once it does... it won't shut. :(
dan03mach
11-13-2006, 08:41 AM
Solenoids can alos freeze open from excessive bottle pressure - You'll have problems getting it to "hit" and once it does... it won't shut. :(
That could be the case.. I know Bill likes to run his to 1200psi..
turbostang
11-13-2006, 08:56 AM
That could be the case.. I know Bill likes to run his to 1200psi..


.... and that is exactly where I had problems back in the nitrous days.
Beenfetchedlately
11-13-2006, 10:00 AM
.... and that is exactly where I had problems back in the nitrous days.
Depending on the noid..yes it can be the case..NOS solenoids are weak..but ive hit the NX solenoids hard and had no issues from them...Their windings are a little nicer though.

I hope he doesnt try to SPRAY it at 1200psi on a wet kit..The initial hit without proper jetting would be LEAN.

Then again...its not even liquid nitrous..itsmore vapor at that psi then anything.
Green1995GT
11-13-2006, 10:12 AM
Why in the fuck if they stopped racing and a BUNCH of people seen my damn fireball from hell, NO FIRE CREW CAME DOWN TO CHECK ON ME?
I had already walked over to see what blew off the car, picked up some stuff of the track and the guy I was racing gave me a ride back to my car, before ANY track personel came over....one EMS lady and one guy in a cart with no fire equipment.
The guy I was racing put out the fire in the grass the my air filter caused.
I had a fire under the hood for a LONG way down the track.

THIS WAS NOT COOL AT ALL!


They didnt care about any of the racing except the Match Races and the Bikes. The Brackets too. So once you were off the track they didnt care anymore. I went to the fall cruise two years ago and it was alot of fun. This time sucked, the guys in the staging lanes were complete dicks. There was one that was ok, but the rest didnt care about any TNT and there was no classes that I could enter in because all the street cars had to run 6.40's or faster. I think that is the last time I will be at any of the cruise events.

Kevin
Mach1Marauder
11-13-2006, 10:14 AM
Depending on the noid..yes it can be the case..NOS solenoids are weak..but ive hit the NX solenoids hard and had no issues from them...Their windings are a little nicer though.

I hope he doesnt try to SPRAY it at 1200psi on a wet kit..The initial hit without proper jetting would be LEAN.

Then again...its not even liquid nitrous..itsmore vapor at that psi then anything.
No.......it wasn't even a 1000psi
No it wouldn't be lean. The car is already in open loop when the nitrous hits.

I think this new carbon fiber aluminum bodied noids are WEAKER.
AL P
11-13-2006, 10:17 AM
Buy a damned fire extinguisher. I set my shit on fire once, along with my foot, I always have one in my car now.
MadScientist
11-13-2006, 10:26 AM
Why in the fuck if they stopped racing and a BUNCH of people seen my damn fireball from hell, NO FIRE CREW CAME DOWN TO CHECK ON ME?
I had already walked over to see what blew off the car, picked up some stuff of the track and the guy I was racing gave me a ride back to my car, before ANY track personel came over....one EMS lady and one guy in a cart with no fire equipment.
The guy I was racing put out the fire in the grass the my air filter caused.
I had a fire under the hood for a LONG way down the track.

THIS WAS NOT COOL AT ALL!
Just glad you are ok!!!! :o
dan03mach
11-13-2006, 10:39 AM
No.......it wasn't even a 1000psi
No it wouldn't be lean. The car is already in open loop when the nitrous hits.

I think this new carbon fiber aluminum bodied noids are WEAKER.Bill I have the exact same noids and have no problems at all, a few of my buddies have them too with no problems, but it could have been a bad one. I don't know.. Mine work flawlessly everytime, and I run em at 1000-1100psi... When I put this new Nitrous system in I did rewire everything with all new wire, switches, relays, etc. Soldered all connections and heat shrinked all wires that were soldered.. I made sure that there were no bad connections due to wiring problems.. You had a problem with your Full throttle switch earlier and after that, this shit happened.. Sounds like too much bad shit at one time..
Mach1Marauder
11-13-2006, 11:00 AM
Are you kidding!

Assuming the car was not at WOT and the timing is much HIGHER, fuel and dope are still getting into the intake track and will ignite at the WRONG time....IE timing...Too much or too little does the same thing. BOOM!

Cut the car off when you sense the juice is still flowing...once you get the engine shut down, cut the bottles off too!

Pull the hood off unplug ignition and pull plugs if you have to...Spin the motor over for a little while and pump all the nitrous and fuel mixtures out the cylinders...and wammy. You still have a nice hood and intake intact for that Mach.

This is another reason WHY i dont mount bottles out of drivers reach! Theres nothing better then cutting the bottles off manually when something hangs open...You just learned that expensive and hard lesson...It hits you in the pocket book :(

Mike...Your full of doody about shutting the car off first. When I crossed the line and let off, the car didn't slow down! I thought I had a stuck throttle. I checked and didn't so I knew it was a stuck noid of some sort, so the only logical thing to do was kill the power to the nitrous system. It STILL didn't do a damn thing when I killed the nitrous power! The only thing to do next was kill the car.........the return curve was coming up quick! The boombitch happened when I killed the car! I had to turn the car back on to unlock the steering to make it aroud the return road curve and keep the car going to blow out the fire. The boombitch is what finally shut the noid!
No........I wasn't running the bottle pressure at 1200. It got close earlier so I purged some off and that run was just shy of 1000psi.
Mach1Marauder
11-13-2006, 11:06 AM
Bill I have the exact same noids and have no problems at all, a few of my buddies have them too with no problems, but it could have been a bad one. I don't know.. Mine work flawlessly everytime, and I run em at 1000-1100psi... When I put this new Nitrous system in I did rewire everything with all new wire, switches, relays, etc. Soldered all connections and heat shrinked all wires that were soldered.. I made sure that there were no bad connections due to wiring problems.. You had a problem with your Full throttle switch earlier and after that, this shit happened.. Sounds like too much bad shit at one time..
It worked fine Sat. night! I say the body deformed after being heat soaked.
All my connections were FINE! :rolleyes:
JamesB
11-13-2006, 11:22 AM
Back when I ran Nitrous, I had the same issues with the solnoids sticking. I always ran at a higher bottle pressure too, 1100-1200. Alot of my explosions was casued by puddling.

The best thing to do is leave that stuff to the Chevy guys, they got it figured out. You own a FORD put a turbo on it. :D
Beenfetchedlately
11-13-2006, 11:24 AM
No.......it wasn't even a 1000psi
No it wouldn't be lean. The car is already in open loop when the nitrous hits.

I think this new carbon fiber aluminum bodied noids are WEAKER.
With the throttle closed which im assuming it was.....you are in a different timing section...BOOM.

Recap exactly when this happened, on or off the throttle etc...what plugs? etc..
Labora
11-13-2006, 11:26 AM
yeah that was me you were racing man......my shoes have a hole on the bottom now :o ...but I at least I put the fire out...and yeah it took them like 4 minutes to come down there and they still let some cars run after that happend...air filter flew out the fender and rolled on to the dry grass....I still got some some parts of your JLT in my car :D

Yah I thought I saw your black vert at the end of the track and noticed they still let a set of cars run your direction even thou you where stopped. :I
Yellowstang
11-13-2006, 11:29 AM
Damn Bill, that really sucks, but at least you are OK.

Fucken Noids!
http://www.thenextleft.com/blogatory/archives/images/noid.jpg
Maverick
11-13-2006, 11:30 AM
The best thing to do is leave that stuff to the Chevy guys, they got it figured out. You own a FORD put a turbo on it. :D



Best damn quote ever on this site...LOL
Beenfetchedlately
11-13-2006, 11:33 AM
Mike...Your full of doody about shutting the car off first. When I crossed the line and let off, the car didn't slow down! I thought I had a stuck throttle. I checked and didn't so I knew it was a stuck noid of some sort, so the only logical thing to do was kill the power to the nitrous system. It STILL didn't do a damn thing when I killed the nitrous power! The only thing to do next was kill the car.........the return curve was coming up quick! The boombitch happened when I killed the car! I had to turn the car back on to unlock the steering to make it aroud the return road curve and keep the car going to blow out the fire. The boombitch is what finally shut the noid!
No........I wasn't running the bottle pressure at 1200. It got close earlier so I purged some off and that run was just shy of 1000psi.
You can believe what you want Bill...Bottom line...No fire, no boom...had you caught it sooner and shut the CAR off...you wouldnt be in this epidemic...
Juiced4V
11-13-2006, 11:43 AM
Yah I thought I saw your black vert at the end of the track and noticed they still let a set of cars run your direction even thou you where stopped. :I


yeah that sorda scared me :o
Mach1Marauder
11-13-2006, 11:54 AM
Back when I ran Nitrous, I had the same issues with the solnoids sticking. I always ran at a higher bottle pressure too, 1100-1200. Alot of my explosions was casued by puddling.

The best thing to do is leave that stuff to the Chevy guys, they got it figured out. You own a FORD put a turbo on it. :D
In the works JamesB!! ;)
Mach1Marauder
11-13-2006, 11:56 AM
You can believe what you want Bill...Bottom line...No fire, no boom...had you caught it sooner and shut the CAR off...you wouldnt be in this epidemic...
Can you even read mike? :rolleyes:
BP
11-13-2006, 12:31 PM
You pull the nitrous solenoid apart yet? If it wasn't from excessive pressure or faulty wiring then there is a good chance of trash sitting under the solenoid piston.
Mach1Marauder
11-13-2006, 12:43 PM
You pull the nitrous solenoid apart yet? If it wasn't from excessive pressure or faulty wiring then there is a good chance of trash sitting under the solenoid piston.
Not yet.
NX told me a little while a go that these particular noids(aluminum body) can have the threads break off if the fittings are installed too tight. :(
I DOUBT if there was any trash from the line or like teflon tape. I was anal as heck about that when putting it together.
Beenfetchedlately
11-13-2006, 12:49 PM
Can you even read mike? :rolleyes:

I guess not..:(

Im soo busy I guess i need to hear it from you..what is it you are admitting/trying to say?
gt350mustang
11-13-2006, 07:52 PM
anyone have it on video?
hotrodcobra
11-13-2006, 09:34 PM
I became a dealer and bought 5 fire suppression kits back when tommy tutone's car burn't. 2 are for my car (engine & drivers compartment) and the rest are still for sale. Cheap. And are listed in the classifieds. I have never understood why most fast cars and ALL nitrous cars don't have one. :confused: Cheap insurance if you ask me. IMO, fire extinquishers don't help much because by the time you get stopped, get the extinquisher and open the hood it's too late and that's if you are not upside down.

Sorry 'bout your car Bill. Good luck.