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BottleRocket
10-10-2006, 06:52 AM
Im still on the fence really. Its a very similar looking bike, but looks are really where it stops...

Comparison between 2006 and 2007:
2007 vs 2006 R1 (http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelspeccompare/6/1452/0/compare.aspx)

Here is the '07
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/07r1_red_3_145d77f7.jpg

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/07r1_black_4_46ef79d5.jpg

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/07r1_blue_2_fbf7f171.jpg


The '07 has 4 valves per cylinder instead of 5. 6 Piston calipers up front with a slightly smaller rotor instead of 4. 12.7:1 comp ratio over the '06s 12.4:1. More adjustable suspension. All in all, not a bad deal, especially considering the price barely went up ($100-300 depending on color)
cbrjames
10-10-2006, 07:50 AM
Damn that red one is the tits!!!
Garceeya
10-10-2006, 11:45 AM
That is sexy as hell. Looks freaking awesome!! :eek:
lowthreeohz
10-10-2006, 11:47 AM
god damn thats a sexy bike.
stunter bob
10-10-2006, 08:11 PM
yea i love that blue one....but its still a yamaha and you cant be hard on em or they will break
ThreeFingerPete
10-10-2006, 11:04 PM
Probably a good move on going to the 4 valve head. Hope it performs well, they've got some stiff competition. I'm still undecided on the looks, but I think I might like it in person.
HobieF3
10-10-2006, 11:16 PM
yea i love that blue one....but its still a yamaha and you cant be hard on em or they will break


They went away from the 5 valve head which is good and bad.

Perhaps they won't have valve train issues and that's good, but just giving up and going backwards doesn't seem like such a good decision either. However, if Ford went away from the mod motors and back to pushrods that were as simple and competitive as the ls-1, I can't say I would be dissappointed :o
Super Coupe
10-11-2006, 12:12 AM
Hitler must be a mod in this forum.
cbrjames
10-11-2006, 07:36 AM
Hitler must be a mod in this forum.

W3rd!
BottleRocket
10-11-2006, 09:04 AM
They went away from the 5 valve head which is good and bad.

Perhaps they won't have valve train issues and that's good, but just giving up and going backwards doesn't seem like such a good decision either. However, if Ford went away from the mod motors and back to pushrods that were as simple and competitive as the ls-1, I can't say I would be dissappointed :o

I dont see how its going backwards. If the 4v head is making more power than the genisis setup, I think its a step in the right direction instead of backwards. They use a 4v head on the YZR-M1, Im sure if the 5v head was really better for performance, it would be on the M1 by now
Super Coupe
10-11-2006, 09:36 AM
I dont see how its going backwards. If the 4v head is making more power than the genisis setup, I think its a step in the right direction instead of backwards. They use a 4v head on the YZR-M1, Im sure if the 5v head was really better for performance, it would be on the M1 by now

Yup rossi chose the 4 valve head instead of the 5. I remember reading that it doesn't make the most HP out of all the GP bikes but usable power is what rossi was going for.
stroked355coupe
10-11-2006, 01:02 PM
damn
cbrjames
10-11-2006, 01:11 PM
damn

Freakin loooove it!! I wonder if i should swap the colors on mine to look like that. :confused:
GARS04
10-11-2006, 01:21 PM
It's a Yamaha for gods sake........ :D

Nice factory styling with a factory engine setup that rivals par at best. Colors don't make up my mind, they all come in black. Im strictly a power house and reliability kind of guy.....Factory Kawi's dominate there. ;)

In all fairness those are some pretty colors. ;)
cbrjames
10-11-2006, 01:53 PM
It's a Yamaha for gods sake........ :D

Nice factory styling with a factory engine setup that rivals par at best. Colors don't make up my mind, they all come in black. Im strictly a power house and reliability kind of guy.....Factory Kawi's dominate there. ;)

In all fairness those are some pretty colors. ;)

Nothing a few $$$ can't take care of! :rolleyes:
GARS04
10-11-2006, 02:33 PM
Nothing a few $$$ can't take care of! :rolleyes:

Yeah but if you start off fast you can only get faster. ;)
cbrjames
10-11-2006, 02:36 PM
I like Kawis power, but not the looks. To each his own though.
evil jose
10-11-2006, 02:42 PM
Damn that's hot!

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/products/mcy/media/wallpaper/2007/r1_a_800_527.jpg

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/products/mcy/media/wallpaper/2007/r1_b_800_527.jpg
HobieF3
10-11-2006, 03:51 PM
I dont see how its going backwards. If the 4v head is making more power than the genisis setup, I think its a step in the right direction instead of backwards. They use a 4v head on the YZR-M1, Im sure if the 5v head was really better for performance, it would be on the M1 by now

Yup rossi chose the 4 valve head instead of the 5. I remember reading that it doesn't make the most HP out of all the GP bikes but usable power is what rossi was going for.

That's like this time a friend who worked at a local performance shop was telling me that a FAST stand alone unit was junk and that a stock A9L ecu made almost 100 more hp than the FAST system on a particular car they were working with.

All that means to me is whoever was tuning the FAST setup didn't know what they were doing ;)
GARS04
10-11-2006, 04:33 PM
I like Kawis power, but not the looks. To each his own though.

Im not downing you, there all nice bikes. I just wanted to be the Debbie Downer in the thread...... :D
BottleRocket
10-11-2006, 05:00 PM
That's like this time a friend who worked at a local performance shop was telling me that a FAST stand alone unit was junk and that a stock A9L ecu made almost 100 more hp than the FAST system on a particular car they were working with.

All that means to me is whoever was tuning the FAST setup didn't know what they were doing ;)


so are you saying more valves are better? well fuck, then why not have a 7v head? i mean if 5 is automatically better than 4 for no other reason than it has one extra valve... that would be the shit! 4 intake and 3 exh valves!
STROKD
10-11-2006, 05:26 PM
damn
That bike is SOOO sick, slammed, stretched with the same color red powdered on the swing arm... HMMMMMM

How much are these again? :D
Super Coupe
10-11-2006, 10:10 PM
That's like this time a friend who worked at a local performance shop was telling me that a FAST stand alone unit was junk and that a stock A9L ecu made almost 100 more hp than the FAST system on a particular car they were working with.

All that means to me is whoever was tuning the FAST setup didn't know what they were doing ;)

No Rossi said it was easier to go faster with the design of the 4 valve head. He said something to the effect like the other bikes might make more power but its not as useable. You might be able to click off one really fast lap because of it but it makes it harder be consistantly fast. He said while the m1 would be getting off corners good the other bikes would be "dirt tracking it" (getting sideways) trying to hook that power up.
HobieF3
10-12-2006, 02:23 PM
so are you saying more valves are better? well fuck, then why not have a 7v head? i mean if 5 is automatically better than 4 for no other reason than it has one extra valve... that would be the shit! 4 intake and 3 exh valves!

That's the point Yamaha was trying to make to the world in 1998. Looks like they owned themselves, DOH! Sorry if it makes you unhappy LOL.



No Rossi said it was easier to go faster with the design of the 4 valve head. He said something to the effect like the other bikes might make more power but its not as useable. You might be able to click off one really fast lap because of it but it makes it harder be consistantly fast. He said while the m1 would be getting off corners good the other bikes would be "dirt tracking it" (getting sideways) trying to hook that power up.

I'm not disagreeing with the logic at all. I'm just poking fun at Yamaha for making the 5 valve head a big deal way back when, not being able to dominate the literbike hp wars despite the "superior" technology, then going back to a 4v head :p
The Raven
10-12-2006, 02:43 PM
Too bad they don't offer it in Raven. I guess I'll have to "settle" for an '06 with 5 valves when I upgrade.

Unless you ride on the the track, the differences are minimal. It's ludacris to ride any of today's superbikes to their potential on the street, there are just too amny possibilities that'll wind you in the ER or worse.
BottleRocket
10-12-2006, 03:19 PM
That's the point Yamaha was trying to make to the world in 1998. Looks like they owned themselves, DOH! Sorry if it makes you unhappy LOL.

It doesnt make me unhappy that they realized that the 4v head is better for what they are trying to do. Im still trying to figure out how it is a "step backward". :rolleyes:
grape
10-12-2006, 03:22 PM
yamaha beat the dead horse for over 20 years on the 5 valve deal.........way before the r1
HobieF3
10-12-2006, 03:49 PM
Im still trying to figure out how it is a "step backward". :rolleyes:

Simple, stop being a sack rider and use common sense. :D

Touting one's new technology (refering to the 5v head in the R1 when the bike was introduced) as superior to another previously used type of technology that the competition is still using, THEN years later reverting BACK to that inferior technology used in the past and currently by the competition would imply that it's a step backwards. What's not to get? :confused:
Monsoon X
10-13-2006, 11:45 AM
I was hoping that they'd lose the underseat exhaust for 07. Oh, well, looks like I'll be getting a Zuk.
cbrjames
10-13-2006, 11:51 AM
I was hoping that they'd lose the underseat exhaust for 07. Oh, well, looks like I'll be getting a Zuk.


I like the underseat exhaust. Just looks alot cleaner. The heat doesn't bother me all that much.
Wright=Extreme
10-13-2006, 12:00 PM
Are they at the dealers yet?
BottleRocket
10-13-2006, 02:42 PM
I was hoping that they'd lose the underseat exhaust for 07. Oh, well, looks like I'll be getting a Zuk.

bite your tongue, lowside
evil jose
10-13-2006, 02:47 PM
I was hoping that they'd lose the underseat exhaust for 07. Oh, well, looks like I'll be getting a Zuk.

Why don't you like the underseat exhaust?

I like the underseat exhaust. Just looks alot cleaner. The heat doesn't bother me all that much.

Do we need to change your name from cbrjames??
KJ94GT
10-13-2006, 03:21 PM
What's the fuel economy on the GSXR600/GSXR750/GSXR1000? I can't find it anywhere.
cbrjames
10-13-2006, 04:25 PM
Do we need to change your name from cbrjames??

To? :confused:
evil jose
10-13-2006, 06:55 PM
What's the fuel economy on the GSXR600/GSXR750/GSXR1000? I can't find it anywhere.

Kenny, try here.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_weights_measurements/


To? :confused:

R1james?
The Raven
10-13-2006, 07:01 PM
To? :confused:


Dee dee deeeeee!
66Deuce
10-14-2006, 10:26 AM
Im strictly a power house and reliability kind of guy.....Factory Kawi's dominate there. ;)


Yep. Kawasucki "reliably" sells you a bike that has power and no steering damper to assist you in correctly utilizing it. They also "reliably" make it from the cheapest materials so that the wheels crack and frames buckle.
GARS04
10-14-2006, 11:35 AM
Yep. Kawasucki "reliably" sells you a bike that has power and no steering damper to assist you in correctly utilizing it. They also "reliably" make it from the cheapest materials so that the wheels crack and frames buckle.

wow, I never had any of those problems....hence the reason I say reliability. You don't base an entire bushel on a couple bad apples. It's faster than your R1, and more reliable.
cbrjames
10-14-2006, 01:17 PM
Kenny, try here.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_weights_measurements/




R1james?

Well as much as i'd like to, i'm cbrjames on pretty much any forum. So i'll just leave it. ;)
66Deuce
10-14-2006, 05:58 PM
wow, I never had any of those problems....hence the reason I say reliability. You don't base an entire bushel on a couple bad apples. It's faster than your R1, and more reliable.

Here you go dude. Not a couple of bad apples... thousands of Kawasucki bad apples!

Vehicle down sensor can cause engine failure/crash-

http://motorcycles.about.com/library/recalls/blmotorecalls078d.htm

Wheels can cause crash-

http://motorcycles.about.com/library/recalls/blmotorecalls007a.htm

Welds on exhaust can cause crash-

http://motorcycles.about.com/library/recalls/blmotorecalls016q.htm

Alternator grease on wheel can cause crash-

http://motorcycles.about.com/library/recalls/blmotorecalls027b.htm
HobieF3
10-14-2006, 07:17 PM
Yep. Kawasucki "reliably" sells you a bike that has power and no steering damper to assist you in correctly utilizing it. They also "reliably" make it from the cheapest materials so that the wheels crack and frames buckle.

Don't the current 10's come with an ohlins damper?

Either way...when the 636 came out, I was really impressed. It rode very well, best 600 out then. Kawi did a big turnaround. When it came time to replace the rear tire and I saw the non sealed open bearings, I realized the turn around wasn't as big as I had previously thought LOL.
evil jose
10-14-2006, 07:50 PM
Well as much as i'd like to, i'm cbrjames on pretty much any forum. So i'll just leave it. ;)

That's cool bro.
Monsoon X
10-14-2006, 09:33 PM
Why don't you like the underseat exhaust?





No, never have. Plus there's no underseat space and the heat. Love the R-6 but, don't want another 600. Love the new Suzukis
89stangGT
10-14-2006, 09:56 PM
http://photos.motorcycle-usa.com/07SPRTBK-03_0-062.jpg
http://photos.motorcycle-usa.com/07SPRTBK-03_0-588.jpg

http://photos.motorcycle-usa.com/07SPRTBK-03_0-456.jpg
89stangGT
10-14-2006, 10:01 PM
I like the CB600F Hornet. Naked bikes are nice.


http://photos.motorcycle-usa.com/66338Untitled-3.jpg