NCAA USA Today Poll - Week 7

[SVTVenom]

1. Ohio State (62) (6-0) 1574 1
2. USC (5-0) 1461 2
3. Florida (1) (6-0) 1412 5
4. West Virginia (5-0) 1398 4
5. Michigan (6-0) 1358 6
6. Texas (5-1) 1240 7
7. Louisville (5-0) 1207 8
8. Notre Dame (5-1) 1044 12
9. Tennessee (5-1) 1031 14
10. Auburn (5-1) 958 3
11. California (5-1) 911 17
12. Clemson (5-1) 899 15
13. Iowa (5-1) 672 19
14. Georgia (5-1) 661 9
15. Georgia Tech (5-1) 592 20
16. LSU (4-2) 565 10
17. Virginia Tech (4-1) 523 18
18. Oregon (4-1) 510 11
19. Boise State (6-0) 472 21
20. Nebraska (5-1) 460 22
21. Missouri (6-0) 387 25
22. Oklahoma (3-2) 268 13
23. Arkansas (4-1) 264 29
24. Rutgers (5-0) 261 23
25. Boston College (4-1) 108 27


Others Receiving Votes:

Florida State 74, Wisconsin 58, Penn State 27, Pittsburgh 21, Washington 13, Texas A&M 11, Miami (FL) 8, Texas Tech 7, UCLA 6, Brigham Young 5, Wake Forest 3, North Carolina State 3, South Carolina 3

I figured Arkisaw would be higher than 23 after that type of win. Texas moves up another spot.

[ALLAN]

So we need at least 5 teams to lose for the BCS to get f'ed over?? :D

[Nate]

USA today is the coaches poll...wonder what coach put Florida #1....

[unkoricky]

UF suprised me, i figured LSU would run all over them...

[TRAXX]

I'm cool with all of that cept for West Virgina at #4.

[Cartman]

USA today is the coaches poll...wonder what coach put Florida #1....
I bet it was auburn

[Boss Hogg]

If I had to guess. I think Ohio State will beat Louisville in the NC game.

1. Ohio State wins out.
2. USC is barely winning games. They will lose to Oregon, Cal, or ND.
3. Florida will lose to Auburn, Fl State, or in the SEC title game.
4. West Virginia loses to Louisville
5. Michigan will lose to Ohio State
6. Texas will win out.
7. Louisville beats West Virginia and leap frogs over Texas.

[SVTVenom]

If I had to guess. I think Ohio State will beat Louisville in the NC game.

1. Ohio State wins out.
2. USC is barely winning games. They will lose to Oregon, Cal, or ND.
3. Florida will lose to Auburn, Fl State, or in the SEC title game.
4. West Virginia loses to Louisville
5. Michigan will lose to Ohio State
6. Texas will win out.
7. Louisville beats West Virginia and leap frogs over Texas.

Louisville's strength of schedule won't allow them to leapfrog Texas.

[TRAXX]

Louisville's strength of schedule won't allow them to leapfrog Texas.


Eh, I beg to differ. I agree that Louisville will more than likely beat WV. That’s why I said I don’t agree with WV's ranking. BUT Louisville and WV are each other's best friends in that who ever wins that game will get a boost in SOS with the losing team probably winning out and eeking in the top 10.

Yes it sucks that Texas might end up with one loss, but the fact still remains that its a LOSS.

I think its BULLSHIT that some of the big conferences don’t have a championship game while the others do...NOT an even playing field. As far as I know, the Big East doesn’t have a conf. championship game right? Just one last bullet that either Louisville or WV doesnt have to dodge.

[SVTVenom]

Eh, I beg to differ. I agree that Louisville will more than likely beat WV. That’s why I said I don’t agree with WV's ranking. BUT Louisville and WV are each other's best friends in that who ever wins that game will get a boost in SOS with the losing team probably winning out and eeking in the top 10.

Yes it sucks that Texas might end up with one loss, but the fact still remains that its a LOSS.

I think its BULLSHIT that some of the big conferences don’t have a championship game while the others do...NOT an even playing field. As far as I know, the Big East doesn’t have a conf. championship game right? Just one last bullet that either Louisville or WV doesnt have to dodge.

How does Louisville jump?

They only play 2 ranked opponents all year long. One of those was Miami, which we all know was SEVERELY over-ranked and the other will be WVU. Rutgers is ranked right now, but may be unranked by that time as they are at #24.

Texas has already played #1 Ohio State, #14 Oklahoma, and will play at #21 Nebraska in 2 weeks and TT could be ranked by then.

Texas' schedule is MUCH harder than Louisville's by a mile.

[Nate]

How does Louisville jump?

They only play 2 ranked opponents all year long. One of those was Miami, which we all know was SEVERELY over-ranked and the other will be WVU. Rutgers is ranked right now, but may be unranked by that time as they are at #24.

Texas has already played #1 Ohio State, #14 Oklahoma, and will play at #21 Nebraska in 2 weeks and TT could be ranked by then.

Texas' schedule is MUCH harder than Louisville's by a mile.
But a loss matters more than strenght of schedule buddy. I would love to see UT make it back to the title game against my Bucks...I mean they beat em once this year...what's another one? :D

[bert89coupe]

Rutgers will take care of them in the big east :D :D :D :D :D

[Nate]

Rutgers will take care of them in the big east :D :D :D :D :D
lmao... :D

[SVTVenom]

But a loss matters more than strenght of schedule buddy. I would love to see UT make it back to the title game against my Bucks...I mean they beat em once this year...what's another one? :D

There is no way that a loss to the #1 team in the nation should hurt more than going undefeated, but playing shitty teams.

If that were true, Mizzou would be in the top 5 right now.

[Nate]

There is no way that a loss to the #1 team in the nation should hurt more than going undefeated, but playing shitty teams.

If that were true, Mizzou would be in the top 5 right now.
So you think a team that because they play in a diff conference (not their fault) and takes care of business by winning all their games doesn't deserve to be in the National Title game over a team that (yes played a better opponent) but did NOT win all their games and take care of all their business? You really are blinded by all that is UT football. Get a grasp on reality.

[SVTVenom]

So you think a team that because they play in a diff conference (not their fault) and takes care of business by winning all their games doesn't deserve to be in the National Title game over a team that (yes played a better opponent) but did NOT win all their games and take care of all their business? You really are blinded by all that is UT football. Get a grasp on reality.

Its not about playing in a different conference, its about playing quality teams. Louisville and WVU could easily schedule quality non-conference opponents to make up for their lackluster conference schedule, but didn't. Auburn got burned by scheduling poor non-conference teams 2 years ago and the same will happen to both Louisville and WVU this year.

You can't honestly sit there and tell me that Texas playing OSU is equal to WVU playing Eastern Washington and Louisville playing Temple. If so, you are a moron.

[Nate]

You can't honestly sit there and tell me that Texas playing OSU is equal to WVU playing Eastern Washington and Louisville playing Temple. If so, you are a moron.
I never said that. But what I am saying is I'd rather have an undefeated record come end of season than have 1 loss where I didn't take care of what I needed to on the field.

And yes you are a moron.

[Pro Trash]

Its not about playing in a different conference, its about playing quality teams. Louisville and WVU could easily schedule quality non-conference opponents to make up for their lackluster conference schedule, but didn't. Auburn got burned by scheduling poor non-conference teams 2 years ago and the same will happen to both Louisville and WVU this year.

You can't honestly sit there and tell me that Texas playing OSU is equal to WVU playing Eastern Washington and Louisville playing Temple. If so, you are a moron.

It's not as though WVU wasn't ranked last year, they finished the year ranked 6th in the Nation. They beat # 10 Georgia last year in their Bowl Game and returned with Pat White as their QB, do you research the teams or just get pissy because they are ranked higher than UT?

[SVTVenom]

I never said that. But what I am saying is I'd rather have an undefeated record come end of season than have 1 loss where I didn't take care of what I needed to on the field.

And yes you are a moron.

There have been plenty of 1 loss teams go to a championship game and win it so your point isn't very valid.

With your theory, some Sun Belt team that goes undefeated should get a BCS game simply because they won 11 or 12 games against a bunch of nobodies.

It is WVU and Louisville's fault that they play in that weak conference because they chose to be there and can change conferences just like Miami did.

[SVTVenom]

It's not as though WVU wasn't ranked last year, they finished the year ranked 6th in the Nation. They beat # 10 Georgia last year in their Bowl Game and returned with Pat White as their QB, do you research the teams or just get pissy because they are ranked higher than UT?

Georgia wasn't even that good last year, plus they gave that game away. I'm not mad that they are ranked higher than Texas because they are the better team. I'm mad because Texas is the better team and has had to play tougher opponents, yet is behind them at this point in time.

[Nate]

You can't just "choose" conferences...WVU yeah I'll just hop in the big Ten this year...next year I'll see how the ACC does...Please just learn to recognize that if UT wants into the national title game without havin to have tons of help, they should have handled it on the field. They did not. There is no way you can dispute that with "facts" of yours. And a SunBelt team is different from a Big East team etc. If they handle their business and make it through undefeated, why not give them a shot at a BCS game instead of having something like a 4 loss FSU team from years past.

With your twisted theory/logic arguments...SEC teams should get in because they have a brutal conference schedule where they beat up on each other. I mean UF has to play LSU, Georgia, Auburn, UT etc...AND A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME OMG! Maybe the SEC teams should transfer to the Big East or Sunbelt and have a weaker cream puff schedule.

and one loss teams should only get in when there are not 2 or more major/mid major teams that are undefeated.

[Pro Trash]

Georgia wasn't even that good last year, plus they gave that game away. I'm not mad that they are ranked higher than Texas because they are the better team. I'm mad because Texas is the better team and has had to play tougher opponents, yet is behind them at this point in time.

Yeah it's called a loss in the loss column :rolleyes: . Besides if you really had your stuff together then you'd know that strength of schedule is no longer a requirement for ranking or voting in the polls. I think UT is a top 5 team but not a top 3 team this year, they have a little bit to do but the QB looks better each game he plays.

[unkoricky]

Someone want to explain to me how Georgia Wasnt good last year?

SEC isnt the easiest confernce.....

[Nate]

Someone want to explain to me how Georgia Wasnt good last year?

SEC isnt the easiest confernce.....
because Venom said so...duh. :p

[SVTVenom]

You can't just "choose" conferences...WVU yeah I'll just hop in the big Ten this year...next year I'll see how the ACC does...Please just learn to recognize that if UT wants into the national title game without havin to have tons of help, they should have handled it on the field. They did not. There is no way you can dispute that with "facts" of yours. And a SunBelt team is different from a Big East team etc. If they handle their business and make it through undefeated, why not give them a shot at a BCS game instead of having something like a 4 loss FSU team from years past.

With your twisted theory/logic arguments...SEC teams should get in because they have a brutal conference schedule where they beat up on each other. I mean UF has to play LSU, Georgia, Auburn, UT etc...AND A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME OMG! Maybe the SEC teams should transfer to the Big East or Sunbelt and have a weaker cream puff schedule.

and one loss teams should only get in when there are not 2 or more major/mid major teams that are undefeated.

Thats exactly why SEC teams are always ranked so high is because they have to play those teams year after year and they are usually good each year.

The fact is, they play in a weak ass conference and play a bunch of nobodies while other teams are stepping up to play big-time teams. I don't even understand why the Big East is a BCS Conference because they haven't done anything nationally to warrant that.

[SVTVenom]

Yeah it's called a loss in the loss column :rolleyes: . Besides if you really had your stuff together then you'd know that strength of schedule is no longer a requirement for ranking or voting in the polls. I think UT is a top 5 team but not a top 3 team this year, they have a little bit to do but the QB looks better each game he plays.

Strength of schedule may not be in the formula, but voters understand who teams have to play and will vote accordingly.

[unkoricky]

Strength of schedule may not be in the formula

good thing i read this, i thought i was crazy and can go to sleep fine now..
























:eek: :mad: :p

[Pro Trash]

Someone want to explain to me how Georgia Wasnt good last year?

SEC isnt the easiest confernce.....

SVT could possibly be a gigantic DUMBASS? Not sure he'll have to answer that one. He is just pissed because he knows WVU<UT in the polls.

[Nate]

Thats exactly why SEC teams are always ranked so high is because they have to play those teams year after year and they are usually good each year.

The fact is, they play in a weak ass conference and play a bunch of nobodies while other teams are stepping up to play big-time teams. I don't even understand why the Big East is a BCS Conference because they haven't done anything nationally to warrant that.
Because it did warrant it when the BCS began and Miami and VT (I believe VT) were in the conference before. That's why. And WVU did warrant the BCS game last year did it not?

and the FACTS still are...IF WV/LOUISVILLE take care of their shit and UT did not, I stand behind the fact they deserve it more than UT.

I am actually a horns fan(after the bucks), but you fucking make me sick to be called a UT supporter.

[SVTVenom]

Someone want to explain to me how Georgia Wasnt good last year?

SEC isnt the easiest confernce.....

Because they had 2 losses going into their bowl game and barely beat unranked South Carolina by 2 and Arkansas by 3.

[unkoricky]

Because they had 2 losses going into their bowl game and barely beat unranked South Carolina by 2 and Arkansas by 3.
:p wow... I hate the SEC because im a Big 12 person obviously...but you are on crack my man..

[SVTVenom]

Because it did warrant it when the BCS began and Miami and VT (I believe VT) were in the conference before. That's why. And WVU did warrant the BCS game last year did it not?

and the FACTS still are...IF WV/LOUISVILLE take care of their shit and UT did not, I stand behind the fact they deserve it more than UT.

I am actually a horns fan(after the bucks), but you fucking make me sick to be called a UT supporter.

No, WVU didn't belong there because they played a bunch of nobodies and went 1-1 against ranked opponents, barely beating Louisville by 2.

There is no way anyone should respect a team that goes undefeated by playing a bunch of chump teams.

Simply, you make me fucking sick for being such a moron.

[unkoricky]

UF should be #2
WVU is overrated...but they still belong in the top 5



LSU made pissed me off..

USC is suspect, but they belong at #5

Michigan need there props..they have there dynamic duo at QB/RB

[Nate]

Because they had 2 losses going into their bowl game and barely beat unranked South Carolina by 2 and Arkansas by 3.
But they played in the tougher conference...so their losses aren't as bad right? and they won their games though I mean look at how good Arkansas is now by beating Auburn! Do you see how you use twisted logic only when it benefits you, but if someone else does it, they are wrong...

I hope others see the comedy in this.

[SVTVenom]

But they played in the tougher conference...so their losses aren't as bad right? and they won their games though I mean look at how good Arkansas is now by beating Auburn! Do you see how you use twisted logic only when it benefits you, but if someone else does it, they are wrong...

I hope others see the comedy in this.

We're also talking about 2 losses here vs. only 1 and their losses were to teams outside of the top 10 where as Texas' was to the #1 team in the nation.

Also, its hard to determine how good Arkansas really is because was that win because Auburn was over-ranked or was it because Arkansas was that good?

Two polls say one thing with them only being #22/23 and the other poll says another with them being #17.

[Nate]

OH jesus...I'll just resort to this..

MY Buckeyes beat your Horns...and there's not a damn thing you can do to argue that. :D

[SVTVenom]

OH jesus...I'll just resort to this..

MY Buckeyes beat your Horns...and there's not a damn thing you can do to argue that. :D

I perfectly understand that comment, but just get ready for round 2 because it is slowly, but surely starting to come to fruition.

[Nate]

I perfectly understand that comment, but just get ready for round 2 because it is slowly, but surely starting to come to fruition.
Not going to happen, but keep dreaming.

[Badass2000gt]

Not going to happen, but keep dreaming.
I figure the first game would be like that since we have a freshman QB and our starter and backup cornerbacks were out of the game. I think the QB has gotten better over the season and I think Texas will play a lot better game if they play Ohio st again this year for the national championship. And I know Texas will win that game. :D

[SVTVenom]

Not going to happen, but keep dreaming.

Thats what Auburn said before playing Arkansas.

Florida still has to finish out their SEC schedule, USC still has to play Oregon/Cal/Notre Dame, WVU still has to play Louisville, and Michigan still has to play their Big 10 schedule and OSU. A loss here, a loss there and Texas is back at #2.

[Nate]

I figure the first game would be like that since we have a freshman QB and our starter and backup cornerbacks were out of the game. I think the QB has gotten better over the season and I think Texas will play a lot better game if they play Ohio st again this year for the national championship. And I know Texas will win that game. :D
That game won't happen. UT will NOT make it to the NC game. I would be willing to put money on it...but venom doesn't bet on sports...oh well.

[Badass2000gt]

That game won't happen. UT will NOT make it to the NC game. I would be willing to put money on it...but venom doesn't bet on sports...oh well.
You never know. The BCS has fucked teams out of it before. :cool:

[Nate]

You never know. The BCS has fucked teams out of it before. :cool:
Yeah...if you want to make a wager...let me know. :D

[davidaustin]

I dunno... If Louisville were to go undefeated I still the Texas is the better team. If that scenario did in fact happen I wouldn't be mad if the Cards got the nod over the Horns, but I would feel that UT, even with a loss, is the better team.

Theres still alot up in the air... alot of football left to be played. Hell, a few upsets here and there and we could have a log jam of 10+ 1 loss teams. Thats when (if) the real fun begins.

[Nate]

I dunno... If Louisville were to go undefeated I still the Texas is the better team. If that scenario did in fact happen I wouldn't be mad if the Cards got the nod over the Horns, but I would feel that UT, even with a loss, is the better team.

Theres still alot up in the air... alot of football left to be played. Hell, a few upsets here and there and we could have a log jam of 10+ 1 loss teams. Thats when (if) the real fun begins.
Now don't get me wrong, I never said they (either or) were the better team...I'm just going by who deserves it by taking care of business. I think if UT played WVU or Louisville, it would be a good game.

[Badass2000gt]

I think Texas, Ohio st, and Michigan are the top 3 teams in the nation. WVU and Louisville arent shit compared to those teams. And USC is overrated.

[Nate]

I think Texas, Ohio st, and Michigan are the top 3 teams in the nation. WVU and Louisville arent shit compared to those teams. And USC is overrated.
Wrong again...OSU, UM and Florida are the top 3. USC/WVU/UT can battle for 4th.

[davidaustin]

Wrong again...OSU, UM and Florida are the top 3. USC/WVU/UT can battle for 4th.

Agreed

[Cartman]

Because they had 2 losses going into their bowl game and barely beat unranked South Carolina by 2 and Arkansas by 3.

We're also talking about 2 losses here vs. only 1 and their losses were to teams outside of the top 10 where as Texas' was to the #1 team in the nation.

Also, its hard to determine how good Arkansas really is because was that win because Auburn was over-ranked or was it because Arkansas was that good?

Two polls say one thing with them only being #22/23 and the other poll says another with them being #17.



wait last year you were saying the sec isn't as tough as the big 12 now they are, make up your mind. the sec is the toughest place to play so using your logic of S.O.S. then the national title is OSU/Mich winner vs whoever survives the SEC.


btw nate who has the number 1 rushing offense the this year and I think they had it last year as well.

there it is set in stone, per venom. mark it down boys going to be one crazy game.

[Who Needs 8]

I figured Arkisaw would be higher than 23 after that type of win. Texas moves up another spot.

I said it in the other post . . . sip owes pig BIGTIME!!!

[SVTVenom]

wait last year you were saying the sec isn't as tough as the big 12 now they are, make up your mind. the sec is the toughest place to play so using your logic of S.O.S. then the national title is OSU/Mich winner vs whoever survives the SEC.


btw nate who has the number 1 rushing offense the this year and I think they had it last year as well.

there it is set in stone, per venom. mark it down boys going to be one crazy game.

I never said SEC wasn't hard, it just isn't the hardest IMHO.

The winner of the Big XII has been in the BCS Championship game for the past 3 years and that says alot.

[Pro Trash]

I never said SEC wasn't hard, it just isn't the hardest IMHO.

The winner of the Big XII has been in the BCS Championship game for the past 3 years and that says alot.

Well I am a big 12 fan as well but the SEC is one hard ass place to win.

The SEC Florida(3), Tenn(9), Auburn(10), Georgia(14), LSU(16)Arkansas(23).

The big 12 currently has OU(22), Miz(21), NEB(20), UT(6)

[SVTVenom]

Well I am a big 12 fan as well but the SEC is one hard ass place to win.

The SEC Florida(3), Tenn(9), Auburn(10), Georgia(14), LSU(16)Arkansas(23).

The big 12 currently has OU(22), Miz(21), NEB(20), UT(6)

More than likely, TT will end up back in the top 25 in the near future and was in there for several weeks. Thats at least 5 Big XII teams that either have or could be in the Top 25 as well.

[Pro Trash]

More than likely, TT will end up back in the top 25 in the near future and was in there for several weeks. Thats at least 5 Big XII teams that either have or could be in the Top 25 as well.

We aren't talking about could've or should've. The SEC has 3 teams in the top 10, I am a Big 12 fan but let's not lie to ourselves about which conference is stronger right now. The Big 12 has one team in the top ten and one team in the top 20 versus SEC has 2 in the top 20 as well.

[Cartman]

We aren't talking about could've or should've. The SEC has 3 teams in the top 10, I am a Big 12 fan but let's not lie to ourselves about which conference is stronger right now. The Big 12 has one team in the top ten and one team in the top 20 versus SEC has 2 in the top 20 as well.
you can't argue with him to nate it is texas than everybody else.

[unkoricky]

SEC is harder...its just really boring to watch because the defenses are good...

90% of this forum is all big 12 obviously and we enjoy watchin High Scoring games..

[SVTVenom]

We aren't talking about could've or should've. The SEC has 3 teams in the top 10, I am a Big 12 fan but let's not lie to ourselves about which conference is stronger right now. The Big 12 has one team in the top ten and one team in the top 20 versus SEC has 2 in the top 20 as well.

I'm not saying any could've or should've because TT was in the top 25 for several weeks. The #25 spot is so fluid and they could be in there this week with a win.

SEC folks love to use the excuse that they beat up on each other, yet the loser of the RRS usually is out of both the National Title picture and the Big XII South/Championship picture too.

[Cartman]

I'm not saying any could've or should've because TT was in the top 25 for several weeks. The #25 spot is so fluid and they could be in there this week with a win.

SEC folks love to use the excuse that they beat up on each other, yet the loser of the RRS usually is out of both the National Title picture and the Big XII South/Championship picture too.
wow one tough game vs 5 or 6 a year :rolleyes:

[hotrod66stang]

Well I am a big 12 fan as well but the SEC is one hard ass place to win.
Florida(3), Tenn(9), Auburn(10), Georgia(14), LSU(16)Arkansas(23).

I think all those teams are a little overrated except LSU and Arkansas, which is very UNDERRATED. I think Arkansas is underrated every year, but this year should finally have a squad that can make the entire season without faltering and make everyone take notice of them again.

Top 5 teams right now are tOSU, UM, UT, WVU, and maybe UF for #5. I won't get into coulda/woulda/shoulda, but IF UT plays tOSU again this season, UT keeps the ball on the ground more, and wins in a game that replaces the Rose Bowl and last year's showdown in the 'Shoe as "Game of the Century." It comes down to the wire and Limas Sweed wins the game for UT. But... I'll focus on winning out the season for now.

[Nate]

Top 5 teams right now are tOSU, UM, UT, WVU, and maybe UF for #5. I won't get into coulda/woulda/shoulda, but IF UT plays tOSU again this season, UT keeps the ball on the ground more, and wins in a game that replaces the Rose Bowl and last year's showdown in the 'Shoe as "Game of the Century." It comes down to the wire and Limas Sweed wins the game for UT. But... I'll focus on winning out the season for now.
Take out WVU, Add USC and put UT as #5 and you MIGHT be close.

UT WILL NOT play THE Ohio State University again this season. I am willing to take wagers right now AND even give odds.

[davidaustin]

Take out WVU, Add USC and put UT as #5 and you MIGHT be close.

UT WILL NOT play THE Ohio State University again this season. I am willing to take wagers right now AND even give odds.

You know they do have a realistic shot of playing eachother again even if it isn't in the NC game.

If Michigan were to beat OSU and USC were to win out they would be the NC game.

OSU would get the perferred treatment to the Rose for Big10 ties

UT doesn't even have to win out as long as they win the Big12. They would most likely get the Rose pick for thier recent history there and since the Fiesta (typical big12 champ) will be hosting the NC game this year.

Granted theres still alot of ball to be played, but this scenario really isnt that far stretched.

[bert89coupe]

You know they do have a realistic shot of playing eachother again even if it isn't in the NC game.

If Michigan were to beat OSU and USC were to win out they would be the NC game.

OSU would get the perferred treatment to the Rose for Big10 ties

UT doesn't even have to win out as long as they win the Big12. They would most likely get the Rose pick for thier recent history there and since the Fiesta (typical big12 champ) will be hosting the NC game this year.

Granted theres still alot of ball to be played, but this scenario really isnt that far stretched.



uh, the Fiesta is not hosting the title game, the BCS bowl in Glendale is hosting the title game. The Fiesta is being played a week before the title game.

[bert89coupe]

Take out WVU, Add USC and put UT as #5 and you MIGHT be close.

UT WILL NOT play THE Ohio State University again this season. I am willing to take wagers right now AND even give odds.




USC?? not after they lose to either Oregon, Cal or ND. More than likley Cal will beat them. USC has just looked average this year.

[Nate]

USC?? not after they lose to either Oregon, Cal or ND. More than likley Cal will beat them. USC has just looked average this year.
Have they lost yet? Rankings are useless throughout the year, hell they shouldn't rank teams til week 9 or 10 imo. But as of now USC is higher than the rest I mentioned IMO.

[bert89coupe]

Have they lost yet? Rankings are useless throughout the year, hell they shouldn't rank teams til week 9 or 10 imo. But as of now USC is higher than the rest I mentioned IMO.



the key word you said there is "yet" lol hell, they might not lose, but i'm guessing they will.

[Nate]

the key word you said there is "yet" lol hell, they might not lose, but i'm guessing they will.
Well you said after they lose to blah blah blah...lol.

They will lose, I'm just hoping it's against THE Ohio State University in the NC game. I don't want to see Florida vs OSU in that game.

[bert89coupe]

Well you said after they lose to blah blah blah...lol.

They will lose, I'm just hoping it's against THE Ohio State University in the NC game. I don't want to see Florida vs OSU in that game.



why not? tosu should be able to take 'em. I still think Florida's D is suspect.

[Nate]

why not? tosu should be able to take 'em. I still think Florida's D is suspect.
Would you rather have UT play UF or USC in the title game? (plus I have a lil bit of disdain for the SEC)

[davidaustin]

uh, the Fiesta is not hosting the title game, the BCS bowl in Glendale is hosting the title game. The Fiesta is being played a week before the title game.

That is the Fiesta bowl :rolleyes:

There are 5 BCS games now, but they are still divided among the same 4 BCS bowl locations. The 5th game will rotate among the 4 locations as the NC game giving one location every 4 years an extra game.

Jan. 1, 2007 Fiesta Bowl

Jan. 8, 2007 NC @ Fiesta Bowl

[Nate]

Do any of your sports genious type people know if they revoked the rule allowing only 2 BCS schools per conf or can you now have 3?

[davidaustin]

Do any of your sports genious type people know if they revoked the rule allowing only 2 BCS schools per conf or can you now have 3?

I *think* you can have 3 if they are all within the top 16 and one is a NC lock.

I believe they changed this after the Big12 fiasco with K-State beating OU a few years ago.

Under a rare scenario where a team lost a conf champ game (K-State/OU) but the second place team still went to the NC (OU). I believe they changed that rule to allow potential looking at another conf team as an 'at large' bid (UT).

[Nate]

I wasn't sure if they changed it or not with the 10 teams able to get a BCS bid.

[Bignasty]

I got michigan state upsetting ohio state this weekend

[Nate]

I got michigan state upsetting ohio state this weekend
Betting man are we? :D

[hotrod66stang]

not gonna happen

[bert89coupe]

Would you rather have UT play UF or USC in the title game? (plus I have a lil bit of disdain for the SEC)



it don't make a shit. I'd enjoy watching them beat USC again, but then again i don't know if they have ever played Florida before. That would just be cool to see them play Florida, know what i mean?

[bert89coupe]

That is the Fiesta bowl :rolleyes:

There are 5 BCS games now, but they are still divided among the same 4 BCS bowl locations. The 5th game will rotate among the 4 locations as the NC game giving one location every 4 years an extra game.

Jan. 1, 2007 Fiesta Bowl

Jan. 8, 2007 NC @ Fiesta Bowl



with it being played a week later then that wouldn't be the Fiesta Bowl now would it?

So don't roll your eyes at me and don't talk to me like i'm SVTVenom over here :p

[davidaustin]

i don't know if they have ever played Florida before.

Records show a 2-0-1 record against Florida with the last meeting in 1940.

Sooo yeah, nobody remembers that.

One thing that is shaping up is that UT has the inside track on the Big12. With 1 loss it would take a good bit of fortune to get back to the NC game, but a BCS game is nothing to be dissapointed with. At this point UT could even drop a game and still get a solid BCS birth by winning the Big12.

UT/Florida would make a traditional Fiesta battle, but I can def see a potential 1 loss rematch of OSU/UT in the Rose Bowl.

Still plenty of ball to be played.

[davidaustin]

with it being played a week later then that wouldn't be the Fiesta Bowl now would it?

So don't roll your eyes at me and don't talk to me like i'm SVTVenom over here :p


My point was that it's still the Fiesta Bowl... just the NC version. If they keep this format every BCS bowl will have a 2nd NC game on thier normal rotation.

From the BCS website


The Bowl Championship Series (BCS) is a five-game arrangement for postseason college football that is designed to match the two top-rated teams in a national championship game and to create exciting and competitive match-ups between eight other highly regarded teams in four other games.

The Fiesta Bowl will host the first-ever BCS National Championship Game on January 8, 2007, at the new state-of-the-art Cardinals Stadium in Glendale. It will be the second game of the double-hosting model with the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl taking place on January 1, 2007. Both games will be televised by Fox.

I re-read what I was talking about last night (3am or something like that hehe) and I misslabeled the point I was trying to make. I was really trying to paint the picture of the story line of a BCS rematch game of 1 loss OSU/UT would be too much to pass up for the Rose Bowl instead of letting the Fiesta get thier traditional conf alliance teams (big12/SEC) especially considering that Boise State has a legit shot to bust the BCS picture... thus putting Boise State vs. SEC champ (assuming it's not the NC contender) at the Fiesta (Jan. 1 date)

whew... this shit gets confusing... sorry

[bert89coupe]

My point was that it's still the Fiesta Bowl.

From the BCS website



I re-read what I was talking about last night (3am or something like that hehe) and I misslabeled the point I was trying to make. I was really trying to paint the picture of the story line of a BCS rematch game of 1 loss OSU/UT would be too much to pass up for the Rose Bowl instead of letting the Fiesta get thier traditional conf alliance teams (big12/SEC)



yes i know but you get my point, it's the Fiesta Bowl but yet it's not. I still think they should come up with a better name than just the BCS Championship Game

[JasonB]

I like all of the posts about UT's offense is a lot better than when they played tOSU in the second week. While I believe that is true (not counting the first half against OU), the minor detail that UT fans are ignoring (or avoiding) is that the "inexperienced" Buckeye D is getting a lot better too. From the games that I have watched, the osu D is improving quicker than the ut O.

The BigXII has been a great conference the past few years. But this year is by far the worst it has been in about 7 years. Look at the Big XII games vs non-conf teams. With 8 new QB's this year it was expected to happen. It is still a tough conference, but not one of the top two like in recent years.

I hope UT doesn't make the title game this year, they will get (and deserve) a BCS game (possible rematch of last year's championship in the rose bowl vs USC?). I'd much rather see an undefeated OSU vs and undefeated Florida team. That would be a great matchup.

[JasonB]

yes i know but you get my point, it's the Fiesta Bowl but yet it's not. I still think they should come up with a better name than just the BCS Championship Game

The Sears-Goodyear-NAPA-Nestle-Wendy's-Trident BCS National Title Game presented by Thrifty.

[bert89coupe]

I like all of the posts about UT's offense is a lot better than when they played tOSU in the second week. While I believe that is true (not counting the first half against OU), the minor detail that UT fans are ignoring (or avoiding) is that the "inexperienced" Buckeye D is getting a lot better too. From the games that I have watched, the osu D is improving quicker than the ut O.

The BigXII has been a great conference the past few years. But this year is by far the worst it has been in about 7 years. Look at the Big XII games vs non-conf teams. With 8 new QB's this year it was expected to happen. It is still a tough conference, but not one of the top two like in recent years.

I hope UT doesn't make the title game this year, they will get (and deserve) a BCS game (possible rematch of last year's championship in the rose bowl vs USC?). I'd much rather see an undefeated OSU vs and undefeated Florida team. That would be a great matchup.



personally, i don't think you'll see an undefeated Florida team, more than likely you'll see an undefeated shit team like WVU or Louisville in the title game. That'll be a good game :rolleyes:

[JasonB]

personally, i don't think you'll see an undefeated Florida team, more than likely you'll see an undefeated shit team like WVU or Louisville in the title game. That'll be a good game :rolleyes:

Well, you were right about Florida, lets hope you aren't correct about WVU or Louisville. I'd rather see tOSU vs USC. I hate to cheer for USC, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to in order to see a good NC game (either OSU or Michigan vs USC).

Sorry for the late reply, I've been out of town.

[bert89coupe]

Well, you were right about Florida, lets hope you aren't correct about WVU or Louisville. I'd rather see tOSU vs USC. I hate to cheer for USC, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to in order to see a good NC game (either OSU or Michigan vs USC).

Sorry for the late reply, I've been out of town.



nah, Rutgers or Pitt will take care of those two :D

[JasonB]

nah, Rutgers or Pitt will take care of those two :D

Strangers things have happened!!!