08 Super Duty

[9COBRA7]

Have you heard anything on the 08 6.4L TT Super Duty? When they will arrive and how much they are projecting to cost? Very interested..?

[turbodriven]

A cummins rep told me that the 08s will have a v6 cummins engine and will have 370hp and 680 tq. Cummins already began production. The powerstroke is no more.

[FoMoCo1]

A cummins rep told me that the 08s will have a v6 cummins engine and will have 370hp and 680 tq. Cummins already began production. The powerstroke is no more.

tell the rep he better check his sources...

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Preview/styleId=100491426

[PooterWS6]

A cummins rep told me that the 08s will have a v6 cummins engine and will have 370hp and 680 tq. Cummins already began production. The powerstroke is no more.
LOL!

V6 Cummins?

Since when did Ford say they were going to run a Cummins?
That has been nothing but rumors for years, just like Ford owning Cummins....

[turbodriven]

Well, this is straight from Cummins. And edmunds can change from day to day.

[blue302stang]

Pretty doubtful that a cummins motor will ever be put in a ford from the factory.

[turbodriven]

Ford never owned Cummins, just a small stock hold.

[JasonB]

That was the rumor going around back when I worked at a ford shop. All I can say is that I'm glad I don't work on cars for a living any more. All of the diesels that came in were sent my way, and there is no way in hell I wanted to mess with a ford twin turbo diesel setup. The 6.0's were shitty enough when they first came out, I don't see this being much better.

[BIG COUNTRY]

That thing is nice.Just wondering what is the hp and tq rating of the 6.0

[turbodriven]

They wanted an inline 6 but since dodge already has one it would open the door for lawsuits so they went with a v6. Cummins merely built the engine and won't do any warranty work on it.

[8mpg]

man... I dunno where turbodriven keeps getting his shit information but it is shit for information. Ford will be using the Cummins motor for the F550+ trucks as a standard motor in 2008 but ford will NOT be offering them in their standard line of f230/350's. Cummins is an inline design which is one of the reasons its superior.... the 6bt is an inline 6...the 4bt is an inline 4. The new motor for the dodges is STILL an inline 6... Cummins has been building inline motors for most of their autos for decades...I dont see a v6 anywhere in their future

[turbodriven]

Ok, let me break this down for you. Ford approached Cummins and asked for an engine. They handed them the plans for the engine they wanted. Cummins built the engine to Ford's specs. Cummins then said they would in no way give it a warranty that it would be Ford's responsibility to supply the warranty.

[turbodriven]

And don't try to baffle me with your cummins numbers. I'm a diesel mechanic.

[Boost Addict]

The '08 Superduties will have the 6.4L V8 twin turbo Powerstroke. This includes 250, 350 & 450. you can already get the cummins in the 550/650 if ordered that way (inline 6, I lol'd at the V6 and Cummins in the same sentence).

This info has been available for a long time, amazing some people still can't get it straight. lol

FWIW, my '06 6.0 Powerstroke has been flawless. It runs rings around my '02 & '04 Powerstrokes. I think they finally got it right.

<--- Next truck will be a 650 with a cummins.

[turbodriven]

Ok, well stay posted. Seeing is believing. Tomorrow when I see the Cummins rep I'll get the link to where you can see this engine.

[8mpg]

And don't try to baffle me with your cummins numbers. I'm a diesel mechanic.

you are still a moron and you are still wrong... they will ONLY be in the 550+ trucks as a standard option. For a cummins mechanic, you are a fuckin moron and I hope you never come close to working on my truck if you think they offer a v6

[8mpg]

The '08 Superduties will have the 6.4L V8 twin turbo Powerstroke. This includes 250, 350 & 450. you can already get the cummins in the 550/650 if ordered that way (inline 6, I lol'd at the V6 and Cummins in the same sentence).

This info has been available for a long time, amazing some people still can't get it straight. lol

FWIW, my '06 6.0 Powerstroke has been flawless. It runs rings around my '02 & '04 Powerstrokes. I think they finally got it right.

<--- Next truck will be a 650 with a cummins.

The ONE (single, uno) time I took out a F350 with 40k miles on it, the POS broke on me in Phoenix.. Had to use a Dodge to pull it home :D

[turbodriven]

Oh don't be mad just cause you weren't the first to know. It's ok. These things happen.

[8mpg]

Oh don't be mad just cause you weren't the first to know. It's ok. These things happen.

to know you are a moron??

[turbodriven]

Hey man, whatever you have to tell yourself to get you through the day.

[PooterWS6]

Ok, well stay posted. Seeing is believing. Tomorrow when I see the Cummins rep I'll get the link to where you can see this engine.
Well, where is your source?
This Cummins rep you speak of...

Theres a guy on the board that worked at Cummins, and im pretty sure hell LOL when he reads the thread...(Stroked71Bowtie)

[8mpg]

Hey man, whatever you have to tell yourself to get you through the day.

I got $50 says cummins wont be in the f250/350's in 2008 as their motor. When mid 07 comes around and they launch the cummins in the 250/350 for the 08's, come find me, I will pay up. Until then, you are a moron...I hope you agree to the bet, Id love to take your money

[turbodriven]

Well, where is your source?
This Cummins rep you speak of...

Theres a guy on the board that works at Cummins, and im pretty sure hell LOL when he reads the thread...(Stroked71Bowtie)
I just said I would get it tomorrow and post it. The guys name is Don and he works for Cummins Sothern Plains in Garland.

[turbodriven]

I got $50 says cummins wont be in the f250/350's in 2008 as their motor. When mid 07 comes around and they launch the cummins in the 250/350 for the 08's, come find me, I will pay up. Until then, you are a moron...I hope you agree to the bet, Id love to take your money
Write it down on your calender.

[PooterWS6]

I just said I would get it tomorrow and post it. The guys name is Don and he works for Cummins Sothern Plains in Garland.
And he leaked that Cummins will be building a V6 for Ford, in the F250/F350 in '08? :rolleyes:
Like 8mpg said, they will be having it availible in the F650+, but it isnt a V6.

[8mpg]

Write it down on your calender.

just let me know... I know they are doing the 550+ trucks...but the the rest wont see them. They will stay with the powerstroke

[Strychnine]

Well, where is your source?
This Cummins rep you speak of...

Theres a guy on the board that worked at Cummins, and im pretty sure hell LOL when he reads the thread...(Stroked71Bowtie)

LOL. Don't drag me into this shit!



Cummins is an inline design which is one of the reasons its superior.... the 6bt is an inline 6...the 4bt is an inline 4. The new motor for the dodges is STILL an inline 6... Cummins has been building inline motors for most of their autos for decades...I dont see a v6 anywhere in their future



Well.....

Any official word is probably still confidential in Columbus, but do some research, and you'd be surpised what you can find.


Cummins, reportedly, is developing a V6 and V8 diesel.

I've heard 2010 or so (about the time the current Cummins/Dodge contract expires)... both a 4.2L V6 and 5.6L V8. Iron block, aluminum head, direct injection, 4 valve OHC.

These would be for the 1500 series light trucks.



I just said I would get it tomorrow and post it. The guys name is Don and he works for Cummins Sothern Plains in Garland.

What's his last name? I might have met him.

I interned in the engineering dept. at Cummins Southern Plains headquarters in Arlington this past summer, and will probably be going back when I graduate in May. In fact, they just mailed me a independant contractor agreement so that I can keep doing work for them during this semester and in the spring, from out here in Lubbock. :cool: Hooray for money! :D



- Matt

[Boost Addict]

The ONE (single, uno) time I took out a F350 with 40k miles on it, the POS broke on me in Phoenix.. Had to use a Dodge to pull it home :D


Yea, my '04 died on me in the middle of an intersection with 29K miles on it. I seriously considered doing a Cummins swap as some have done on dieselstop.com.

But alas, I was pulled into another Ford the same day. If I could get the Cummins in an F350 I'd buy it tomorrow. But the ceo (wife) says I might can have a 650 next year. We'll see.

<--- crosses his fingers. lol

[turbodriven]

I'm not sure on his last name. He used to be over the heavy truck maintenance in Garland and then they moved it to Arlington. So now he's just a Rep for all the local business in Garland and over the ZF devision also.

[8mpg]

LOL. Don't drag me into this shit!







Well.....

Any official word is probably still confidential in Columbus, but do some research, and you'd be surpised what you can find.


Cummins, reportedly, is developing a V6 and V8 diesel.

I've heard 2010 or so (about the time the current Cummins/Dodge contract expires)... both a 4.2L V6 and 5.6L V8. Iron block, aluminum head, direct injection, 4 valve OHC.

These would be for the 1500 series light trucks.





What's his last name? I might have met him.

I interned in the engineering dept. at Cummins Southern Plains headquarters in Arlington this past summer, and will probably be going back when I graduate in May. In fact, they just mailed me a independant contractor agreement so that I can keep doing work for them during this semester and in the spring, from out here in Lubbock. :cool: Hooray for money! :D



- Matt


:( v6/v8 and alum heads :(

but still wont be in the 08's

[Cooter]

A cummins rep told me that the 08s will have a v6 cummins engine and will have 370hp and 680 tq. Cummins already began production. The powerstroke is no more.

you care to put a little wager on that? $5k sound good?

Cummins is developing smaller engines for Dodge's 1500 and durango line... The powerstroke is NOT going away.

[Sean88gt]

Reps do a good job talking out of their ass. Apparently you are going all in on his faulty info.

Cummins is developing a consumer line of diesels (for cars and light trucks) that is a V style engine, but I would be willing to bet they will be going in a car that has a ram for a logo.

I'm so far happy with my Powerstroke (other than the shitty mileage) it runs solid. But I still use my cummins for long/heavy hauls. From what I understand the 6.4 is the 6.0 block, just opened up and it uses HPCR (high pressure common rail) heads along with the twin turbos.

[Cooter]

the 6.4 might finally be a powerstroke I could get behind... common rail is where it's at... I'm sure they'll have some teething issues, but getting away from that rube goldberg oil-triggered injection setup was a very late step in the right direction.

still LMAO @ the new Vx Cummins in the 08 Super Duty's

[8mpg]

still waiting on a link

[turbodriven]

If you were so anxious you could have already gone to Cummins website. As of right now they have in V6 form: 6.0, 6.4 and a 6.8. They are being used as proto types in Europe and will be coming to the US in the next 2 years. Cummins Souther Plains # is 1-800-306-6801.

[PooterWS6]

If you were so anxious you could have already gone to Cummins website. As of right now they have in V6 form: 6.0, 6.4 and a 6.8. They are being used as proto types in Europe and will be coming to the US in the next 2 years. Cummins Souther Plains # is 1-800-306-6801.
Where?
Im looking on their europe site, dont see any V engines...
http://www.cummins.com/eu/pages/en/products/index.cfm

[Ted]

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[turbodriven]

I couldn't find it on there either but if you'll look on the US site it has the V series. All the information is from 2005 so it's a little out of date. Since I heard it from the Rep, which works for Cummins and was previously a mechanic, it obviously hasn't been released from Columbus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cummins

[8mpg]

I couldn't find it on there either but if you'll look on the US site it has the V series. All the information is from 2005 so it's a little out of date. Since I heard it from the Rep, which works for Cummins and was previously a mechanic, it obviously hasn't been released from Columbus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cummins

so you cant find it...he cant find it but its released information that your rep knows all about. Out of date info?? Are you kidding me... you are basing all your info off shit thats about to be 2 years old and there is no information on?

You are still a moron

[Cooter]

I couldn't find it on there either but if you'll look on the US site it has the V series. All the information is from 2005 so it's a little out of date. Since I heard it from the Rep, which works for Cummins and was previously a mechanic, it obviously hasn't been released from Columbus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cummins

Cummins has been making V style engines since before you were born, but that doesn't mean that the Powerstroke is dead in 08! :rolleyes:

your "rep" is a goddamn retard (and you might be too! :( )

[turbodriven]

so you cant find it...he cant find it but its released information that your rep knows all about. Out of date info?? Are you kidding me... you are basing all your info off shit thats about to be 2 years old and there is no information on?

You are still a moron
And your still a douche. Don't you think that someone from Cummins would know a little more about things than the general public would? I mean I don't know what you do for a living but I'm sure you know what's going to happen before anyone else does, right? The guy I get my info from has been with Cummins for awhile so I believe I'll go with him on this one. It's ok, as soon as you read this you'll be like, "damn idiot he don't shit," but when the time comes and they release the info you'll say quietly to yourself, "I guess he did know what he was talking about." I posted a number you could call, call it and see what they say. You might be suprised.

[turbodriven]

Cummins has been making V style engines since before you were born, but that doesn't mean that the Powerstroke is dead in 08! :rolleyes:

your "rep" is a goddamn retard (and you might be too! :( )
Do your work for cummins? Do you know anything about a diesel engine for that matter? Do have an attachment to the PSD? This is what someone gets for trying to share some information that few others know about.

[8mpg]

And your still a douche. Don't you think that someone from Cummins would know a little more about things than the general public would? I mean I don't know what you do for a living but I'm sure you know what's going to happen before anyone else does, right? The guy I get my info from has been with Cummins for awhile so I believe I'll go with him on this one. It's ok, as soon as you read this you'll be like, "damn idiot he don't shit," but when the time comes and they release the info you'll say quietly to yourself, "I guess he did know what he was talking about." I posted a number you could call, call it and see what they say. You might be suprised.

lol..when the 08's come out and they have a cummins, come find me. Lets make it a bet... I already offered $50...you willing to go the other way when I win?

Do your work for cummins? Do you know anything about a diesel engine for that matter? Do have an attachment to the PSD? This is what someone gets for trying to share some information that few others know about.

Forrest is the biggest cummins finatic I have ever met in my life and has always dogged on the pos powerstroke.

[turbodriven]

Other way? I'll take your bet for $50 if that's what you're asking. I'll stand up to my word.

[SOLOW55]

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/07/cummins_to_prod.html

[PooterWS6]

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/07/cummins_to_prod.html
Not bad on the power/trq numbers...

As for going in the Ford diesels, doesnt look like its happening at all...

[5starstanger]

I'm am impressed with the amount of misinformation and guessing. I never posting anything about this truck because it's already out at the fair. The motor went through an extra 6 months of testing so it won't be released like the 6.0 was. It was originally going to be in the 07. The truck is also at fordvehicles.com.

The interior is retarded nice. The motor will be released at 350HP, 650TQ. It was designed for 450/750 for those who love their programers. The F450 will tow 24K properly equiped. The 6.4 in made by Navistar/International.

The Cummins guys as usual have most of the answers. The cummins (not the Dodge version) is now the standard motor in the F550 and up. It is the cheaper motor for that spot as far as up front cost and warranty cost.

Any other questions?

I love the 08. The new features and the interior were well thought out. I'll be firmly planted next to it tomorrow at the auto show.

[8mpg]

I'm am impressed with the amount of misinformation and guessing. I never posting anything about this truck because it's already out at the fair. The motor went through an extra 6 months of testing so it won't be released like the 6.0 was. It was originally going to be in the 07. The truck is also at fordvehicles.com.

The interior is retarded nice. The motor will be released at 350HP, 650TQ. It was designed for 450/750 for those who love their programers. The F450 will tow 24K properly equiped. The 6.4 in made by Navistar/International.

The Cummins guys as usual have most of the answers. The cummins (not the Dodge version) is now the standard motor in the F550 and up. It is the cheaper motor for that spot as far as up front cost and warranty cost.

Any other questions?

I love the 08. The new features and the interior were well thought out. I'll be firmly planted next to it tomorrow at the auto show.

yeah..I got a question..when do you think turbodriven is gonna pay me my $50 :D

[turbodriven]

This is Cummins in Arlington number. 817-640-6800. Ask for parts and tell them you want to know more information on the V6 Cummins going in the Ford F250/350s.

[MouseKiller]

turbo driven is part right, but it looks more like Chrysler is driving the research on this one. Look at the light duty clean diesel project....

Looks like the powersmokes will continue.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=112916&p=irol-IRHome

[5starstanger]

Just got back from the fair and that truck and motor is frikin cool. I'm amazed at how many people stopped and were facinated by the new fold out step in the tail gate. It's cool, but geez.

[Cooter]

Just got back from the fair and that truck and motor is frikin cool. I'm amazed at how many people stopped and were facinated by the new fold out step in the tail gate. It's cool, but geez.

by "that motor", you mean the V6 Cummins, right? LMAO!!!!

[turbodriven]

Oh whoa, some one takes his shit to heart. First off, fuck you. Second you still don't know shit and only time will teach you. Common sense would tell you not to talk to the woman at the parts counter, unless she knows about the engine. You'll see. And when you do I don't expect an apology, cause true men like yourself don't throw those around. But the simple fact that you "will" feel retarded is good enough for me. Maybe you're right, the engine won't be in the 08's and for that I owe 8mpg the $50 we agreed on. That's no problem, the fact I'm trying to push is that this engine does exist and will be in the F250/350s in the very near future. Maybe they will offer both for that matter but it's coming and I don't know why it upsets you.

[Cooter]

ok, so the powerstroke ISN'T gone for '08? exactly... your rep is smrt!

look dude, there have been rumors like this in the small diesel world for YEARS... a few years ago the rumor was the B series in the Dodge was going to be replaced with a Mercedes engine when their contract ran out... and that Ford was going to get the 5.9.

just a rumor... I've heard recent rumors that Dodge is talking w/ Cummins about smaller diesels for their 1500 and smaller lines... but I'm not preaching them as gospel... Dodge's contract w/ Cummins is coming up again in a few years, but I assure you they're going to do everything they can to keep them because Cummins sells a LOT of trucks for them!!!!

you said that the powerstroke was dead in '08... you didn't say it was a rumor, you said it was secret information that us peons didn't have...

have a good weekend

[5starstanger]

I promise I know more reliable info about future vehicles than 99.9% of people that could stumble on this site. I spoke on here about the 6.4 TT made by International about a year ago. I have a fleet guy who is directly involved with developement and testing, and a couple Ford reps that are friends.

That being said, I've not heard anything about any new Cummins motor being used on a Ford product other than the existing use in the F550 and bigger.
Ford has been designing a new smaller diesel for the F150 and Expedition. It's nick named the Babystroke. We thought it might be the new 4.5 V6 TT used in Ford's Cab Over truck brought over from Europe. However, the torque is great, but the HP is lacking. I'll try to keep ya'll updated with anything I hear.

[PooterWS6]

For you bitches that want pictures....
http://www.earnhartbuilt.com/2008/index.html

That engine bay is a clusterfuck!

[David]

I just hope most people are wrong by saying this will be the ending of a era like the muscle car was when emissions was brought forth. :(

But my dad likes the truck, so I guess he'll be getting one when it hits the lots.

[PooterWS6]

I just hope most people are wrong by saying this will be the ending of a era like the muscle car was when emissions was brought forth. :(

But my dad likes the truck, so I guess he'll be getting one when it hits the lots.
Sure hope he never wants to modify it....;)
Look at that clusterfuck of pipes, hoses, boxes, doodads and widgets all on top of the engine....
Not to mention removing any of the emissions equipment will more than likely set off the check engine light....

[David]

Sure hope he never wants to modify it....;)
Look at that clusterfuck of pipes, hoses, boxes, doodads and widgets all on top of the engine....
Not to mention removing any of the emissions equipment will more than likely set off the check engine light....
Yeah.

Diesel power magazine figures as soon as there's an increase of fuel or carbons being increased. Your dash will light up like a christmas tree.

[PooterWS6]

Yeah.

Diesel power magazine figures as soon as there's an increase of fuel or carbons being increased. Your dash will light up like a christmas tree.
Not to mention voiding that warranty:p

[8mpg]

we are still talking about the '08 POStroke

[blue302stang]

yea, the 2007's will be wiried to all hell, but i am sure that once the aftermarket gets a hold of it all that there will be ways around everything.

[8mpg]

yea, the 2007's will be wiried to all hell, but i am sure that once the aftermarket gets a hold of it all that there will be ways around everything.


I wouldnt count on that one.

[Skidonenko]

For you bitches that want pictures....
http://www.earnhartbuilt.com/2008/index.html

That engine bay is a clusterfuck!

Its a cap-off fuck. Ford made it so you have to pull the cab off for damn near anything. (suposed to be easier to pull the cab but only time will tell)

[PooterWS6]

Its a cap-off fuck. Ford made it so you have to pull the cab off for damn near anything. (suposed to be easier to pull the cab but only time will tell)
Sounds like a slew of misaligned body panels, squeeky bodymounts, and a whole bunch of fun for techs!:p

[Skidonenko]

Sounds like a slew of misaligned body panels, squeeky bodymounts, and a whole bunch of fun for techs!:p

bitch you just jinxed me!!!!

[Cooter]

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com: 20061011:MTFH65119_2006-10-11_14-38-28_N11405229&type=comktNews&rpc=44

CHICAGO, Oct 11 (Reuters) - Cummins Inc. (CMI.N: Quote, Profile, Research), the U.S. diesel engine maker, said on Wednesday that it will begin producing a new family of light-duty diesel engines for DaimlerChrysler AG (DCXGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) at its plant in Columbus, Indiana.

[8mpg]

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com: 20061011:MTFH65119_2006-10-11_14-38-28_N11405229&type=comktNews&rpc=44

CHICAGO, Oct 11 (Reuters) - Cummins Inc. (CMI.N: Quote, Profile, Research), the U.S. diesel engine maker, said on Wednesday that it will begin producing a new family of light-duty diesel engines for DaimlerChrysler AG (DCXGn.DE: Quote, Profile, Research) at its plant in Columbus, Indiana.

no way man...Ford is getting the Big C

[Cooter]

this Cummins rep told me he was the son of god... he's a janitor named Jesus that empties the trash at one of their service centers

[0SVT3]

LOOKS LIKE 10 POUNDS OF CRAP IN A 5 POUND BAG :confused: