power commander's ???

[musclestang89]

I'm just curious are they really worth it? Like for a stock bike that only has a slip on? Am I going to see much power increase? This would be going on a 05 gsxr 600. I have a race coming up and he says he can take stock 600's. So I figure alittle extra wouldn't hurt :eek:

[Chrm10SPkZ28]

have you heard anything about your bike? what race is this?????

[musclestang89]

have you heard anything about your bike? what race is this?????


just that it should be done in a few days. which means prolly next weekend :(


Oh its between a buddy of mine, he has a fox body with heads,cam,intake and some nitrous. :D he says he has already taken a 600 and should be able to take me. we will see about that ;) right now his car is down at the time but once he gets it up and going and I get the bike back then we can run them. But I figured I might have time to slap a power commander on there and get her tuned just to get a few extra ponies out of her :)

[Super Coupe]

Take it to the drag strip and practice some. That will help way more than a power commander.

[AnotherRedHead]

powercommanders usually add between 5-20 HP with a good tune. It all depends on how jacked up your stuff is to begin with. Many times I have had a gixxer 1K come in and leave making 10 plus HP throughout the range than before he came. This is with a PC plus my expert tuning of course :)

call me if your interested, Im trying to get my own shop open here soon so we can have some real dyno days instead of scheduled non happen dyno days.

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[The Raven]

powercommanders usually add between 5-20 HP with a good tune. It all depends on how jacked up your stuff is to begin with. Many times I have had a gixxer 1K come in and leave making 10 plus HP throughout the range than before he came. This is with a PC plus my expert tuning of course :)

call me if your interested, Im trying to get my own shop open here soon so we can have some real dyno days instead of scheduled non happen dyno days.

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What would a commander and tune run for an '06 R6S? Can you adjust for gearing with it, or is the speedo healer the only way to go?

[AnotherRedHead]

What would a commander and tune run for an '06 R6S? Can you adjust for gearing with it, or is the speedo healer the only way to go?


speedo healer is the only fix. Bikes use only a simple pickup on the countershaft sprocket cover, so when it spins faster, it reads faster. The powercommanders only hook into the main computer harness, and pigtails for the ignition wires from the stator pickup. PCs for newer bikes will be in USB format, for faster downloads, and they are about 330$ if Im not mistaken. Full custom mapping is going to run you 150$.

[SNEAKY]

will it make the mustang faster?

[The Raven]

will it make the mustang faster?

There are equivalent boxes like the Diablo tuner available for cars. Just like on the bikes, the amount gained depends on how off your stock tune is.

[AnotherRedHead]

alot of bikes on the road would gain 5-10hp from changing air filters and oil and spark plugs.

[musclestang89]

There are equivalent boxes like the Diablo tuner available for cars. Just like on the bikes, the amount gained depends on how off your stock tune is.




lmao, Billy knows, he is just giving me a hard time :D

[SNEAKY]

lmao, Billy knows, he is just giving me a hard time :D
:D

[grape]

a motec will pick up a stock 05 and up 1000 nicely when you move the rev limiter up where it needs to be and slide the cams around a little..........but this is DFWstangs.....lol.

a power commander still won't let you control both sets of injectors.......you can only didle with the low/idle side injectors.

[AnotherRedHead]

a motec will pick up a stock 05 and up 1000 nicely when you move the rev limiter up where it needs to be and slide the cams around a little..........but this is DFWstangs.....lol.

a power commander still won't let you control both sets of injectors.......you can only didle with the low/idle side injectors.


Im sure you put 7000 dollar motecs on lots of bikes LOL.

For the money, there isnt another option that lets you control the fuel and timing parameters that a PC will. Even a piggyback system which will use the stock computer to run lights and stuff and a add on unit like DTA, accel, or even motec at the least will run you around 1500 dollars with sensors. Ive made over 220rwp with all motor bikes running only powercommanders on stock electronics. The only thing you have to upgrade for that much HP is fuel system capacity.

Also, when grape says you can only run the low/idle side injectors that in no way means that you are only able to adjust the low speed, idle fuel on bikes with 2 banks of injectors as he so misleadingly put it. I make the airfuel flat on many bikes and it changes all throughout the range, just like the graph shows, when you change the cells at 12000 rpm, it changes the fueling there as it is supposed to. Bottom line, powercommanders do their job, they are not a gimmick. They need to be tuned properly or else your spitting into the wind.

[Goose1]

DOnt waste your $ on a powercommander until you get filter,exuhaust... your not going too get that much Pwr gain from it... and me personally i have no plans on wasting my $$ on full exhaust... For a 600 your bang for the buck will be sprocket change.


Or go and have the Heads milled.

[grape]

Ive made over 220rwp with all motor bikes running only powercommanders on stock electronics.

damn we should use you, our $9000+ 1300's with a motec barely get there on a real dyno...lol.


I'm sure you've done that with 1000 cc's and a stock rev limit too with your tuning skills, you are alone in that no one else in the world can make an engine operate in the 140+% efficiency range N/A. I guess if you lie to customers they belive your bullshit, by the way you can tell me again how much money's worth of sales your engine building buisiness grossed this year if you'd like. :rolleyes:

yes we use motecs, and yes all of our DTA shit is for sale lol.

[musclestang89]

thanks guys for yalls advice.

[AnotherRedHead]

damn we should use you, our $9000+ 1300's with a motec barely get there on a real dyno...lol.


I'm sure you've done that with 1000 cc's and a stock rev limit too with your tuning skills, you are alone in that no one else in the world can make an engine operate in the 140+% efficiency range N/A. I guess if you lie to customers they belive your bullshit, by the way you can tell me again how much money's worth of sales your engine building buisiness grossed this year if you'd like. :rolleyes:

yes we use motecs, and yes all of our DTA shit is for sale lol.

LOL, you always do this, then I bag you into the ground and you dont come back. Shall I go retrieve the other posts? You didnt like the HP #s my gixxer 1K put up either, but yet you never would back your shit up to dispell my "non-hp" making motor. lol Ive heard about you, I know for a fact, I would roll on the ground laughing at what a cock goblin you really are. I seen you :)
I didnt like the DTA either, not really alot of cells to fill in the gaps in fuel changes. Motec obviously has the most, but is by far the most exspensive. Most people can build a second motor on the budget of a single motec system. So dont come on here trying to act like you know more than me. Ive proved time and time again that your nothing more than a talker....btw, Ill be at kennedale tonight purple penis head! Bring your bike out there, err uugh your buddies bike, ur uh, that guy you talked to once about racing....

[grape]

LOL, you always do this, then I bag you into the ground and you dont come back. Shall I go retrieve the other posts? You didnt like the HP #s my gixxer 1K put up either, but yet you never would back your shit up to dispell my "non-hp" making motor. lol Ive heard about you, I know for a fact, I would roll on the ground laughing at what a cock goblin you really are. I seen you :)
I didnt like the DTA either, not really alot of cells to fill in the gaps in fuel changes. Motec obviously has the most, but is by far the most exspensive. Most people can build a second motor on the budget of a single motec system. So dont come on here trying to act like you know more than me. Ive proved time and time again that your nothing more than a talker....btw, Ill be at kennedale tonight purple penis head! Bring your bike out there, err uugh your buddies bike, ur uh, that guy you talked to once about racing....

umm, you told me pro stock bikes don't run slider clutches......i see who the prodigy is here. Give me some more hard numbers to go with your dyno numbers, how many sets of aftermarket cams have you degree'd in this year? I'm sure you can count on one hand.

[AnotherRedHead]

umm, you told me pro stock bikes don't run slider clutches......i see who the prodigy is here. Give me some more hard numbers to go with your dyno numbers, how many sets of aftermarket cams have you degree'd in this year? I'm sure you can count on one hand.


Do all pro-stock bikes run sliders? Do all turbobikes run turbos? Does grape bubblicious taste as good as grape bubble yum? Does purple penis head have anything to bring to the table? LOL d-bag

[LS1 pwrd Nova]

Read head, how much to tune a turbo busa? Are you in the DFW area? Which programmer to get for a good deal?

[Cmarsh93z]

what kinda turbo kit you got?

[slam]

i like my carb'd 7 year old bike better :D

[HobieF3]

just that it should be done in a few days. which means prolly next weekend :(


Oh its between a buddy of mine, he has a fox body with heads,cam,intake and some nitrous. :D he says he has already taken a 600 and should be able to take me. we will see about that ;) right now his car is down at the time but once he gets it up and going and I get the bike back then we can run them. But I figured I might have time to slap a power commander on there and get her tuned just to get a few extra ponies out of her :)

Heads cam bottle fox LOL.

If it's a typical 90's combo good for mid 11's on slicks you have nothing to worry about on the street.

Didn't you already lower/stretch that bike or was that someone else...or you were planning it or something?

Anyways, I'm no drag racer, but if it's stone stock now, drop it through the triples and spend $50 on a lowering link and down tooth in the front. Practice launching, beat him be 10 or 12 bus lengths.

[hstang]

Heads cam bottle fox LOL.

If it's a typical 90's combo good for mid 11's on slicks you have nothing to worry about on the street.


No reason why that combo shouldn't run 10's easy.

[HobieF3]

No reason why that combo shouldn't run 10's easy.

While we are talking best case scenarios, slammed and launched like Gadson his bike should go high 9's...bus lengths.

I understand the car has the potential on paper, but I'm talking real world ;)

[AnotherRedHead]

new 600s are pretty fast.

[musclestang89]

Heads cam bottle fox LOL.

If it's a typical 90's combo good for mid 11's on slicks you have nothing to worry about on the street.

Didn't you already lower/stretch that bike or was that someone else...or you were planning it or something?

Anyways, I'm no drag racer, but if it's stone stock now, drop it through the triples and spend $50 on a lowering link and down tooth in the front. Practice launching, beat him be 10 or 12 bus lengths.


its been stretched out to like 4.5 inches and right now it is getting lowered. More than likely it will be from a roll

[HobieF3]

its been stretched out to like 4.5 inches and right now it is getting lowered. More than likely it will be from a roll

How high does he want to go?

600s don't have shit on top, but fox Mustangs aren't known for their highway prowess either.

It doesn't take much of a car to outrun a 600 if you go from 100, even less if you go from 120. Even in full leathers, nice tuck position, removed mirrors (big difference) 170 is truly all you can hope for, chances are you will top out in the low 160s, lot of cars have that covered.

If you go from something low under 60 or so, you'll d-r-a-g him for sure. If I was him I would rather go from a stop or from over 100, not between. Most bike riders can't launch very hard. If he's on slicks on the street, it shouldn't be hard for him to get the holeshot vs an inexperienced rider.

I imagine in a 1/4 you're capable of trapping atleast 10 more mph than him.

Downtooth, from a roll in first or second, it will be nasty in your favor.

[musclestang89]

How high does he want to go?

600s don't have shit on top, but fox Mustangs aren't known for their highway prowess either.

It doesn't take much of a car to outrun a 600 if you go from 100, even less if you go from 120. Even in full leathers, nice tuck position, removed mirrors (big difference) 170 is truly all you can hope for, chances are you will top out in the low 160s, lot of cars have that covered.

If you go from something low under 60 or so, you'll d-r-a-g him for sure. If I was him I would rather go from a stop or from over 100, not between. Most bike riders can't launch very hard. If he's on slicks on the street, it shouldn't be hard for him to get the holeshot vs an inexperienced rider.

I imagine in a 1/4 you're capable of trapping atleast 10 more mph than him.

Downtooth, from a roll in first or second, it will be nasty in your favor.


i'm not for sure, but I won't be going over 140 for this. well my bike is said to top out at 163 who knows really but I won't be finding out.

If we go from a stop he is going to kill me out of the whole, casue I will baby it, Maybe he will see this and post up ;)

[musclestang89]

well it looks like he wants to go from a stop. Now I just need to gt my bike back so I can practice :D


Slam you still go out to Kennedale on Sunday's every now and then?

[redpanhead]

I was wondering why I hadn't seen your bike at MD's lately. What's your dad up too, haven't seen him in a while? Well I need to crank up the old Panhead and go to MTS. I'm enjoying that wind in my face :cool: .