View Full Version : New best at Dale tonight.
1fst4II
09-07-2006, 09:08 PM
Well not the night I was hoping for but still a new best for the mighty 4pot!
I know the 60' is not the best but this thing needs a major tune and did not like launching on the 2-step :confused: not building boost on te line so launching off just motor.
(all on 1 run)
60' ...... 1.859
330 ...... 5.451
mph ..... 62.84
1/8 ...... 8.413
mph ..... 82.56
If I could launch this thing and get the boost up quicker off the line, it would be a damn 7 sec car :mad: It pulls too fucking hard in 2nd and 3rd gear not to be.
We shall see what FFW holds for the little SVO next week
2nd best run (pulled hard right so in and out of 1st and 2nd gear before coasting through the end)
60' ..... 1.826
330 ..... 5.443
mph .... 62.20
1/8 ..... 9.07
mph ..... 59.87
You don't have the mph to be a 7 sec car...sorry.
Super Coupe
09-07-2006, 09:14 PM
Mph needs to be about 85-86 to break 7's but fast time for a 4 banger for sure! :eek:
1fst4II
09-07-2006, 09:14 PM
No shit on those runs. Turbo car + 4 cylinder + no boost on launch = no mph in 1/8th we shall see what Ennis holds?
This set up is capable of it. It needs a major tune (still stock everything) and a new driver mod. ;)
OsoSlow
09-07-2006, 09:14 PM
You don't have the mph to be a 7 sec car...sorry.
you's weong pimpin!!!!
maybe if he takes out some weight!!!! :D
1fst4II
09-07-2006, 09:15 PM
you's weong pimpin!!!!
maybe if he takes out some weight!!!! :D
Damn man I'm on a diet lay off with the fat cracks :D
you's weong pimpin!!!!
maybe if he takes out some weight!!!! :D
LMAO...Gotta take out a lot of weight to drop that much. I say he can get an 8.2 at BEST in perfect conditions.
1fst4II
09-07-2006, 09:17 PM
New sig quote till I get my slip ;)
QUOTE=NaSSty Nate]LMAO...Gotta take out a lot of weight to drop that much. I say he can get an 8.2 at BEST in perfect conditions.
Quoted in sig till I get my slip[/QUOTE]
at least quote it right. :p Good luck, don't make any changes and go beat on it and beat on it til you prove me wrong.
1fst4II
09-07-2006, 09:22 PM
A 7.99 would be = to what roughly in the 1/4? Mid low 12? We shall see what I can force out of this half a motor ;)
That's all I really want is a slip that starts with a 7. I don't care what it ends with :D
Back half multipliers are usually in the 1.56 range so you figure it out. :p
93coupett
09-07-2006, 10:30 PM
Well not the night I was hoping for but still a new best for the mighty 4pot!
I know the 60' is not the best but this thing needs a major tune and did not like launching on the 2-step :confused: not building boost on te line so launching off just motor.
(all on 1 run)
60' ...... 1.859
330 ...... 5.451
mph ..... 62.84
1/8 ...... 8.413
mph ..... 82.56
If I could launch this thing and get the boost up quicker off the line, it would be a damn 7 sec car :mad: It pulls too fucking hard in 2nd and 3rd gear not to be.
We shall see what FFW holds for the little SVO next week
2nd best run (pulled hard right so in and out of 1st and 2nd gear before coasting through the end)
60' ..... 1.826
330 ..... 5.443
mph .... 62.20
1/8 ..... 9.07
mph ..... 59.87
What tires are you running and why doesn't it like launching off the 2 step?
1fst4II
09-08-2006, 06:52 PM
What tires are you running and why doesn't it like launching off the 2 step?
ET Streets. It hooks great but there is a slight bog/delay before boost kicks in and it goes.
And as far as the 2-step goes :confused: :confused: :confused:
First passes were off just motor Last couple were on the 2 step motor tried to die over on the 2nd pass on the 2-step so I gave up after that. Will try again next week :cool: :confused: :mad:
mikeb
09-08-2006, 07:08 PM
ET Streets. It hooks great but there is a slight bog/delay before boost kicks in and it goes.
Try airing them up so that you get less hook/more spin off the line and the engine can get into boost sooner.
Moose Jr
09-08-2006, 08:02 PM
Try airing them up so that you get less hook/more spin off the line and the engine can get into boost sooner.
Yes, the bog is killing you!
1fst4II
09-08-2006, 08:45 PM
Try airing them up so that you get less hook/more spin off the line and the engine can get into boost sooner.
Ya, when I ck'd them they were at 13psi and I forgot to bring my airpump :(
will start at 17psi next time and then go from there.
Hopefully that will help some :confused:
Thanks for any and all tips. Would have been nice to have a wing man with a camcorder in the stands last night!!
93coupett
09-08-2006, 08:50 PM
ET Streets. It hooks great but there is a slight bog/delay before boost kicks in and it goes.
And as far as the 2-step goes :confused: :confused: :confused:
First passes were off just motor Last couple were on the 2 step motor tried to die over on the 2nd pass on the 2-step so I gave up after that. Will try again next week :cool: :confused: :mad:
What kind of boost controller are you running? A stick/turbo car is hard to launch if you can't bring boost in when you need it. I'd really look into an EBC that can use Co2. I know it sounds race car'ish but for what your trying to do it will help dramatically. Either that or go with an auto. tranny.
1fst4II
09-08-2006, 09:04 PM
What kind of boost controller are you running? A stick/turbo car is hard to launch if you can't bring boost in when you need it. I'd really look into an EBC that can use Co2. I know it sounds race car'ish but for what your trying to do it will help dramatically. Either that or go with an auto. tranny.
Its a greddy profecB elec boost controller. It has a bottle on it and plumbed in, just didn't want to use it yet. It is pilled and filled just need sto be turned on. i know that would fix my problem, just want to see how quick I can get it first.
And I have been steadily looking for a C4 w/ a good $$ tag on it. Just finding a bellhousing for these motors are hard to come by :(
93coupett
09-08-2006, 09:13 PM
Its a greddy profecB elec boost controller. It has a bottle on it and plumbed in, just didn't want to use it yet. It is pilled and filled just need sto be turned on. i know that would fix my problem, just want to see how quick I can get it first.
And I have been steadily looking for a C4 w/ a good $$ tag on it. Just finding a bellhousing for these motors are hard to come by :(
It's going to take some tuning but hopefully it will take out the bog. Also, I would just keep an eye out for a used MSBC-1 or AMS-1000. Although they are expensive, you have much more control w/ your boost. With the stages, in the boost controller I mentioned above, you can bring more boost in when you need it and take it out also. Launching a turbo/stick car and auto is two completly diff. worlds so you kinda have to figure it out by yourself. I think I finally have mine figured out so tomorrow we will see. I know it can be frustrating but can be done.
SLOWVERADO
09-08-2006, 10:47 PM
anyone know what the red LS1 car ran?
slownbmta
09-09-2006, 12:45 AM
anyone know what the red LS1 car ran?
Which one?
93coupett
09-09-2006, 12:56 AM
Which one?
What did you run?
slownbmta
09-09-2006, 01:07 AM
What did you run?
No good, 6.23 :o Picked up power and ran almost the same 60 foot, ET, and mph :confused: I think I need to change cams. the TREX is made for all motor cars and has a small powerband and up very high. I think with more of a nitrous cam I would pick up alot of power earlier in the curve(maybe even none at peak) and hopefully pick up a good bit at the track. I dont know that is just my crazy theory(excuse ;) ) Also I still havent wired the trans brake with the nitrous so I was footbraking again. It SHOULD pick up at least a tenth with that I would think.
93coupett
09-09-2006, 01:15 AM
No good, 6.23 :o Picked up power and ran almost the same 60 foot, ET, and mph :confused: I think I need to change cams. the TREX is made for all motor cars and has a small powerband and up very high. I think with more of a nitrous cam I would pick up alot of power earlier in the curve(maybe even none at peak) and hopefully pick up a good bit at the track. I dont know that is just my crazy theory(excuse ;) ) Also I still havent wired the trans brake with the nitrous so I was footbraking again. It SHOULD pick up at least a tenth with that I would think.
That's still fast as hell! Now get a damn cage :D
slownbmta
09-09-2006, 01:21 AM
Ms3? ;)
Maybe, but I might be better off with a custom cam since i have heads. I dont know i am gonna check around. They didnt say anything to me about the cage all night but i am getting it done VERY soon....
Maybe, but I might be better off with a custom cam since i have heads. I dont know i am gonna check around. They didnt say anything to me about the cage all night but i am getting it done VERY soon....
Custom Grind would be the right way to go...and good job on the cage...better to be safe bro.
Justa4banger
09-09-2006, 08:23 AM
Well your times are getting down there.
Gives me hope. I know i need some decent tires and the 2 step. I'm curious why your having problems with your 2 step.
Also you really need to tune that car. with my crappy 2.3 60 ft times, i still manage to get through the traps at 82 mph.
How much boost are you running?
Justa4banger
09-09-2006, 08:40 AM
WHat rpm are you launching at without the 2 step? slipping the clutch any?
just curious.
The first time i tried to dump the clutch at 4500 rpm netted me a busted rearend :D of course it was the puny 7.5 rearend
1fst4II
09-09-2006, 10:22 AM
Also you really need to tune that car. with my crappy 2.3 60 ft times, i still manage to get through the traps at 82 mph.
How much boost are you running?
I only had it turned up to 18 still trying to get the wastegate spring set right. The boost controller is maxed out on low boost just to get to 12psi. So still playing with that. Should end up about 25psi on final tune. Turbo is good to 30? But we shall see?
The 2step is pilled at 3800 I am going to re pill it for 4500 and see what difference that makes as far as how quick the boost comes in. At 3800 I end up with around 10psi but it take a bit for it to come up? We shall see.
You gonna be able to make FFW Kevin?
Justa4banger
09-09-2006, 01:06 PM
You gonna be able to make FFW Kevin?
Well i looked at my schedule and i won't be home in time. FFW is the weekend before i get home.
I might go to the KOTH though at Kdale on the 23rd.
Oh and about your turbo, i'm actually thinking of getting the same thing. i did lots of reading to find out my turbo basically sucks ass for my application.
Of the next couple months (maybe sooner) i should be getting a MAF conversion and 75 lbs injectors. Possibly a new turbo by then, along with the proper tunning, by Motion dynamics. all that with 26+ psi should net me a solid 350 at the wheels, then i'll stop. :D
Well i looked at my schedule and i won't be home in time. FFW is the weekend before i get home.
I might go to the KOTH though at Kdale on the 23rd.
Oh and about your turbo, i'm actually thinking of getting the same thing. i did lots of reading to find out my turbo basically sucks ass for my application.
Of the next couple months (maybe sooner) i should be getting a MAF conversion and 75 lbs injectors. Possibly a new turbo by then, along with the proper tunning, by Motion dynamics. all that with 26+ psi should net me a solid 350 at the wheels, then i'll stop. :DKOTH is on the 29th at Kdale...the 22-23rd it's sudden impact at HRP.
Your name here
09-09-2006, 01:42 PM
Well i looked at my schedule and i won't be home in time. FFW is the weekend before i get home.
I might go to the KOTH though at Kdale on the 23rd.
Oh and about your turbo, i'm actually thinking of getting the same thing. i did lots of reading to find out my turbo basically sucks ass for my application.
Of the next couple months (maybe sooner) i should be getting a MAF conversion and 75 lbs injectors. Possibly a new turbo by then, along with the proper tunning, by Motion dynamics. all that with 26+ psi should net me a solid 350 at the wheels, then i'll stop. :D
U still havent beat the Hay Hauler. U and I need to set something up, Maybe a money race and this time I'll give U the jump. Turbo to Turbo ;) Or I can give U half track at Ennis for a Thousand but I'm Driving the Hay Haulers little Black sister the Blackbird.
DON SVO
09-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Well i looked at my schedule and i won't be home in time. FFW is the weekend before i get home.
I might go to the KOTH though at Kdale on the 23rd.
Oh and about your turbo, i'm actually thinking of getting the same thing. i did lots of reading to find out my turbo basically sucks ass for my application.
Of the next couple months (maybe sooner) i should be getting a MAF conversion and 75 lbs injectors. Possibly a new turbo by then, along with the proper tunning, by Motion dynamics. all that with 26+ psi should net me a solid 350 at the wheels, then i'll stop. :D
Kevin, I think you should go with a .63 AR back side, 60-1 compressor.
John, you would do well with a SC54 and the same exhaust.
Justa4banger
09-09-2006, 02:49 PM
Kevin, I think you should go with a .63 AR back side, 60-1 compressor.
John, you would do well with a SC54 and the same exhaust.
Yea i did some research on that compressor also, but i might be a little to close to the edge for it. I already have a .63 AR, i just need a stage III or more. i found one turbo for 900.00 thats a 50 trim stageIV hot, and polished compressor housing. Its made by AGP. Don't know if its any good but i may soon find out.
I have a goal in mind and when i hit it the SVO will be DONE! :rolleyes:
If i need more power (which i will) i'll get another fox body and do a V8 turbo. :D
I love my car for what it is, but its no Cobra stomper, never will be, although with practice i bet i could beat a Cobra (car for Car) on a road course. ;)
KOTH is on the 29th at Kdale...the 22-23rd it's sudden impact at HRP.
Hmm i was under the impression KOTH was on the 23rd, i guess i'll check my sources. thanks for the heads up.
Justa4banger
09-09-2006, 03:01 PM
U still havent beat the Hay Hauler. U and I need to set something up, Maybe a money race and this time I'll give U the jump. Turbo to Turbo ;) Or I can give U half track at Ennis for a Thousand but I'm Driving the Hay Haulers little Black sister the Blackbird.
Please excuse the hijacking....................
Race for money?????????? who's money you going to race with Tubby? As i know it, you have to have a job, to have money, to buy gas, in order to even haul your ass out to a racing spot. Let alone have enough cash for me to waste my time.
Yea you beat me ONE time at Redline when i was still learning the car. Lets go now bitch. I'll even make it fair to you and race you for gas money to and from Ennis. lets do the 1/4 if your feeling frisky.
As for blackbird, well if you own it i know its slow as hell. :D Nothing can be fast with an extra 450lbs in the drivers seat......LOL
...................Back to normal broadcasting station.................
Hmm i was under the impression KOTH was on the 23rd, i guess i'll check my sources. thanks for the heads up.
They run the last Friday of the month at Kdale...and www.texaskingofthehill.net has the schedule.
SLOWVERADO
09-09-2006, 05:38 PM
No good, 6.23 :o Picked up power and ran almost the same 60 foot, ET, and mph :confused: I think I need to change cams. the TREX is made for all motor cars and has a small powerband and up very high. I think with more of a nitrous cam I would pick up alot of power earlier in the curve(maybe even none at peak) and hopefully pick up a good bit at the track. I dont know that is just my crazy theory(excuse ;) ) Also I still havent wired the trans brake with the nitrous so I was footbraking again. It SHOULD pick up at least a tenth with that I would think.
if you do decide to sell that t-rex my buddy Justin might buy it off ya....he's looking for something a little better than what he has now. let me know if you do end up selling it.
you should pick up with the transbrake...also, do you have a wolfe rollbar in the car?
Your name here
09-09-2006, 06:21 PM
Please excuse the hijacking....................
Race for money?????????? who's money you going to race with Tubby? As i know it, you have to have a job, to have money, to buy gas, in order to even haul your ass out to a racing spot. Let alone have enough cash for me to waste my time.
Yea you beat me ONE time at Redline when i was still learning the car. Lets go now bitch. I'll even make it fair to you and race you for gas money to and from Ennis. lets do the 1/4 if your feeling frisky.
As for blackbird, well if you own it i know its slow as hell. :D Nothing can be fast with an extra 450lbs in the drivers seat......LOL
...................Back to normal broadcasting station.................
The Hay Hauler has a blow thru Turbo on it now with a set of afr 225's puting down 505 at the rear wheels and a set of 373's for the 1/4. The Blackbird is a CBR1100XX that will smoke yo ass. As far as a Job mine is legal unlike your drug dealing ass ;) All bullshit aside I need help setting that thing up if U can help cuz I don't have a fucking clue about turbos. It should be pumping out more than 505 with them heads I got. It only add 150 horse at 8psi Im scared i'll fuck shit up if I go higher.
slownbmta
09-09-2006, 06:33 PM
if you do decide to sell that t-rex my buddy Justin might buy it off ya....he's looking for something a little better than what he has now. let me know if you do end up selling it.
you should pick up with the transbrake...also, do you have a wolfe rollbar in the car?
No rollbar, I think I will do that and the cage next. It seems everybody was off a tenth or 2 that I talked to last night :confused: I hope to get a 6.0 on the brake like it sits.
Justa4banger
09-10-2006, 09:22 AM
The Hay Hauler has a blow thru Turbo on it now with a set of afr 225's puting down 505 at the rear wheels and a set of 373's for the 1/4. The Blackbird is a CBR1100XX that will smoke yo ass. As far as a Job mine is legal unlike your drug dealing ass ;) All bullshit aside I need help setting that thing up if U can help cuz I don't have a fucking clue about turbos. It should be pumping out more than 505 with them heads I got. It only add 150 horse at 8psi Im scared i'll fuck shit up if I go higher.
Where in the fuck did you get enough money for a blow through carb setup. :rolleyes: If this is true then what you need to tune that truck is WIDE BAND O2 meter. not a cheap autometer gauge.
Its the only investment that could truely save your motor. Also whats your stock compression? 8 psi is quite a bit, if the compression is above 9.5/1
1fst4II
09-10-2006, 10:43 AM
Where in the fuck did you get enough money for a blow through carb setup. :rolleyes: If this is true then what you need to tune that truck is WIDE BAND O2 meter. not a cheap autometer gauge.
Its the only investment that could truely save your motor. Also whats your stock compression? 8 psi is quite a bit, if the compression is above 9.5/1
GTF outa my thread Kevin! :D
Just kidding
Lets see how many pages this will end up being and how many different topics can come up in 1 thread? :confused:
Justa4banger
09-10-2006, 11:04 AM
Sorry bro, i just didn't feel it deserves it own thread. lol
Hope you can get that car in the 7's but its going to be tough.
1fst4II
09-10-2006, 07:31 PM
Sorry bro, i just didn't feel it deserves it own thread. lol
Hope you can get that car in the 7's but its going to be tough.
Ran the new battery cable so getting full voltage now!
While I was in there I installed the fogger nozzle and the nitrous jet :D Just need to un-hook the dry kit and hook up the wet kit. Then run the fuel line and :eek: :eek: :D
It will go 7's ;)
Going to try and get some dyno time on fri and tune the nitrous. We shall see if I have time though? I have to install the airbag for the rear spring. This thing has some serious twist to it now :D
Justa4banger
09-12-2006, 10:33 AM
Well it looks like the stars aligned. I should be getting a bigger turbo(same as yours actually) 75 lbs injectors, MAF conversion and some good tuning (i hope) real soon. the goal is a reliable 350whp anytime of the year.
after that i'll give myself time to save up for traction goodies. my car isn't a track queen, so for now i'll just have fun on the open road.
Cmarsh93z
09-12-2006, 12:01 PM
No rollbar, I think I will do that and the cage next. It seems everybody was off a tenth or 2 that I talked to last night :confused: I hope to get a 6.0 on the brake like it sits.
What size motor/nitrous kit are you using? What kinda power is it putting down? Just trying to compare to some 6.17 passes Keith made back in the day with the 346/dry kit.
Chris
SLOWVERADO
09-12-2006, 09:06 PM
What size motor/nitrous kit are you using? What kinda power is it putting down? Just trying to compare to some 6.17 passes Keith made back in the day with the 346/dry kit.
Chris
he's a 346 with a wet kit from what i've heard.
1fst4II
09-13-2006, 11:43 PM
Well it looks like the stars aligned. I should be getting a bigger turbo(same as yours actually) 75 lbs injectors, MAF conversion and some good tuning (i hope) real soon. the goal is a reliable 350whp anytime of the year.
after that i'll give myself time to save up for traction goodies. my car isn't a track queen, so for now i'll just have fun on the open road.
For the price of the maf conversion and the tuning/chip, why not just go with a megasquirt and do away with a meter all together? That is what I will be doing this winter if the funds allow. I gotta sell a few spare parts. But with the suirt, wideband, and everything I need I can get in for under a grand and have COMPLETE tunability when ever I want. No need to have to re-burn a chip when/if I change something.
Justa4banger
09-17-2006, 07:39 AM
No need to have to re-burn a chip when/if I change something.
Because i don't feel like going through the growing pain of MS and also i don't plan on doing anything else once i tune it.
If i need more power i'll get a V-8 and Boost it. :D
We'll see how much it all comes out to be. if it is really is ridiculously priced then i might consider something else.
1fst4II
09-19-2006, 09:02 AM
Kevin, there really won't be that many growing pains. With as many people on Turboford that are using it, there are a ton of base programs available through a drop of an email that tuning it should be VERY easy!
I will let you know how mine goes this winter. But first I have to fix my boost problem. Hopefully my turbo isn't going out :(
Going to test the waste gate now.
vBulletin® v3.8.1, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.