900 inch motor

[slow55]

For a while now around the 10.5 scene rumors of a 900+ inch motor was being developed by gene fulton. It seems that next month Jack barfield will take delivery of that motor and will be stuffing in a outlaw 10.5 car. Rumors are 1800 hp on motor and plus it will have stages if nitrous. I am interested in seeing how this peice works out.

[Sick89LX]

I've wondered who was going to get one of those bad boys. He has that yellow year-one Camaro correct :confused: I bet that sucker will look like a Hotwheels car with the carbs towering over the roof :eek:

[slow55]

I've wondered who was going to get one of those bad boys. He has that yellow year-one Camaro correct :confused: I bet that sucker will look like a Hotwheels car with the carbs towering over the roof :eek:
Yeah it is supposed to be going into the yellow 69. He just bought a new car so i'm not sure if will end up using it instead or not. I heard he was financing the r&d
on this motor. I sure would like the have the money that cost.

[Sick89LX]

Yeah it is supposed to be going into the yellow 69. He just bought a new car so i'm not sure if will end up using it instead or not. I heard he was financing the r&d
on this motor. I sure would like the have the money that cost.

Aren't the 7XX Fulton setups like $75k?? Can't imagine what the hell that sucker would cost :eek:

http://www.blownboostedandpurged.com/tn_Picture%20253080706.jpg

[Blue99Ws7]

yes that's definitely in big boy territory(sp) wish i had that kind of money

[BP]

Aren't the 7XX Fulton setups like $75k?? Can't imagine what the hell that sucker would cost :eek:

They start at around $50k and go up from there depending on if you want 1,2,3,4 or 5 stages.

It'd still get handled by a SBC or SBF with twins on it though.

[10sec302]

They start at around $50k and go up from there depending on if you want 1,2,3,4 or 5 stages.

It'd still get handled by a SBC or SBF with twins on it though.



Agreed 100%
I coudlnt imagine the weight of that thing, or the fuel it'll burn. IMO why would you go with a 900+ motor when you have Big blocks now getting their asses handed to them by small blocks on twins?????

Probably Chevy inspired :D

[JamesB]

Agreed 100%
I coudlnt imagine the weight of that thing, or the fuel it'll burn. IMO why would you go with a 900+ motor when you have Big blocks now getting their asses handed to them by small blocks on twins?????

Probably Chevy inspired :D
I wouldn't nessasary say "getting there ass handed to them", turbo cars have came along way in 1/8mile racing, but still have alot to makeup.

[SMOKEY]

That is just fucking insane!!

[Jaded]

Agreed 100%
I coudlnt imagine the weight of that thing, or the fuel it'll burn. IMO why would you go with a 900+ motor when you have Big blocks now getting their asses handed to them by small blocks on twins?????

Probably Chevy inspired :D
How long did it take the small blocks with twins to catch the big block cars? Now it's just time for the big block cars to figure out new ways to make more power and keep getting faster. It's a cycle that will come back around. It's the competitiveness of getting more power and something new that makes these Outlaw cars get faster and faster every year.

[Andrew]

I think the guys to watch out for are the blown alcohol hemi guys... Tony Johnson went a .49 on the first test hit and wrecked the car on that pass....

What will it do when he gets it figured out?

[Sick89LX]

I think the guys to watch out for are the blown alcohol hemi guys... Tony Johnson went a .49 on the first test hit and wrecked the car on that pass....

What will it do when he gets it figured out?

That's what I was gonna say and he went 172mph which was 2-3mph faster than Lynch and rumors were that was thier smallest tuneup :eek:

[Andrew]

That's what I was gonna say and he went 172mph which was 2-3mph faster than Lynch and rumors were that was thier smallest tuneup :eek:

I bet that car can make every bit of 3000 horsepower.

[tphan]

it take 900 cid of displacement to produced 3000 hp.

if I was an engineer I would bend over and kick myself in the ass :p

[Jaded]

it take 900 cid of displacement to produced 3000 hp.

if I was an engineer I would bend over and kick myself in the ass :p
I don't see any rotary motors running in the outlaw classes. :rolleyes:

[Andrew]

I don't see any rotary motors running in the outlaw classes. :rolleyes:

I saw a SICK rotary motor car at the last KOTH at Denton. He didn't make a pass, but it was a 2 rotor engine with 14 160# injectors....

[46Tbird]

Sonny's (and other Pro Mod engine builders) have been offering 832+ci engines for a very long time.

Now hitting 1000cubes would really be doing something..

[Beej]

a coffin with 10.5w's and a huge motor.

dear lord.

[D]

There's also a couple of outlaw cars running motors build from Eaton Enterprises in AZ. Check out their website. www.eatonenterprises.com wicked motors.

[Da Prez]

wow...

[Andrew]

I heard a few guys are running motors from this shop too:

http://www.prolineraceengines.com ;)

[BP]

I think the guys to watch out for are the blown alcohol hemi guys... Tony Johnson went a .49 on the first test hit and wrecked the car on that pass....

What will it do when he gets it figured out?

Take that alcohol away though and what kind of power will he make? I'm thinking maybe 1500hp tops, barely more than a naturally aspirated mountain motor.

[stunter bob]

thats a big fuckin motor

[slow55]

There are plenty of ways to make power. It is impossible to say which is better.
Small blocks wouldn’t make power without the turbos, the blower motors wouldn’t make power without the alcohol, the nitrous motors wouldn’t make the power without the cubes. Just as technology has been making the turbo cars faster and more consistent it is also making the nitrous more power also. The big cube/nitrous has been the most reliable, consistent way to make power for many years now. I can’t wait the see the block on this monster and how wide the motor is. I would hate to be the person who has make it fit in the car.

[slow55]

They start at around $50k and go up from there depending on if you want 1,2,3,4 or 5 stages.

It'd still get handled by a SBC or SBF with twins on it though.
a 762 with 4 stages ready to run cost $76,500 from fulton.
So far there haven't been any twins doing any damage the these motors this year. Between koth and orsca there has only been one turbo winner this year.

[busted90]

I heard that Brad Brand has a 800 inch motor with twins now.

[JamesB]

a coffin with 10.5w's and a huge motor.

dear lord.
you get in one of those every day, that is a coffin on wheels

[slowbrick]

brands motor keeps blowing up. Thats a BBF for you.

[90GT50]

I heard that Brad Brand has a 800 inch motor with twins now.I thought it was around 700 with twin 91's?
I heard lynch is going big block soon too.

[PooterWS6]

I thought it was around 700 with twin 91's?
I heard lynch is going big block soon too.
You should get a 900cube motor for that neon so you can hang with a cummins...

[slow55]

You should get a 900cube motor for that neon so you can hang with a cummins...
ohh shit here we go again

[90GT50]

You should get a 900cube motor for that neon so you can hang with a cummins...Or just leave it alone.

[slow55]

Alright fuckers don't high jack my thread. I know it's damn near impossible to keep a thread on track around this place.

[90GT50]

Alright fuckers don't high jack my thread. I know it's damn near impossible to keep a thread on track around this place.I don't plan on it.

[PooterWS6]

ohh shit here we go again
Its how I roll.
Or just leave it alone.
Pussy!
Alright fuckers don't high jack my thread. I know it's damn near impossible to keep a thread on track around this place.
You should know that by now...

[wade_racing]

the big problem with the 900 inch motor is going to be longevity (sp) the promod nitrous guys are complaining about the 738 inch motors not lasting do to cylinder wall thickness or lack there off. the 800 inch motor built now are for IHRA prostock and they have already tried to spray them and never really got out of second gear before the motor ate itself. for the money its best to go with the 728 CID that fulton build with 4 stages. thats is what the outlaw and promod guys are running and having success with. just my .02 i know that barfield runs a 762 but he has more problems with it than he know what to do with. i guess it helps to be in bed with fulton seeing how they are literally family.

[wade_racing]

the eaton motors are really nice a lot of the comp guys i race with run eaton motors and until we bought ours it was maintned by eaton and rick waters guys. really great group and super to deal with. Patterson Racing engines is another great builder if you havethe cash.

[slow55]

the big problem with the 900 inch motor is going to be longevity (sp) the promod nitrous guys are complaining about the 738 inch motors not lasting do to cylinder wall thickness or lack there off. the 800 inch motor built now are for IHRA prostock and they have already tried to spray them and never really got out of second gear before the motor ate itself. for the money its best to go with the 728 CID that fulton build with 4 stages. thats is what the outlaw and promod guys are running and having success with. just my .02 i know that barfield runs a 762 but he has more problems with it than he know what to do with. i guess it helps to be in bed with fulton seeing how they are literally family.
They have been woorking on this peice for a while now. i'm sure they will get some of the those problems solved. i just want to see the block in this thing.
It has to be super tall and the cam would have to raised about 2 inches. Not to mention how wide the pan rails have to be.

[46Tbird]

Yeah, you're not gonna do it with an 8.2" deck 302 or anything. :D

[slow55]

Yeah, you're not gonna do it with an 8.2" deck 302 or anything. :D
the 648 i ran had a 10.350 deck and the 665 i used had a 11.200 deck
I can just amagine something 900 ci. probaly a 12.000 or 12.125 deck.

[gravygraber59]

They will spred the bore spaceing, raise the cam , widen the pan rails, raise the deck, and what a Hemi head. Gotta have a lot of air going to feed that many cubes. Just think how big the ports will be. :eek:

[grape]

just sayin

motor = electric

engine = gasoline powered...............

[Adam]

I would love to see that motor in person.....

[SNEAKY]

just sayin

motor = electric

engine = gasoline powered...............

what do you call one that is fliud driven?

[Joshua Lee]

They start at around $50k and go up from there depending on if you want 1,2,3,4 or 5 stages.

It'd still get handled by a SBC or SBF with twins on it though.


Take that alcohol away though and what kind of power will he make? I'm thinking maybe 1500hp tops, barely more than a naturally aspirated mountain motor.


lol. Take away them twins and what kinda power will THEY make??? lol.. Couple hundered? 800??? maybe??

[gravygraber59]

lol. Take away them twins and what kinda power will THEY make??? lol.. Couple hundered? 800??? maybe??
With the right heads I've seen SBC dyno just under 1000 HP N/A. Them splayed valve heads flow like a big block head. On injected alky it was a little over that almost 1100 HP. ;) Sonny's has there 762 BBC Hemi making 1600 N/A. haven't seen what it wil do on spray.

[grape]

358" pro stock truck engine from jenkins if you were one of his good customers was over 970 hp..........5 years ago.

modern 500" pro stock is in the 12-1300 range.

[slow55]

358" pro stock truck engine from jenkins if you were one of his good customers was over 970 hp..........5 years ago.

modern 500" pro stock is in the 12-1300 range.
If any kind of power adder was to be added to either of those type motors they would fly apart very quickly.
Also there is some major money spent to get that kind of hp from a na motor.
I know ps truck motors used to go for 80 to 100k when that class was running and a pro stock motor will run you around 150,000 to 200,000 if someone would sell a competive motor.

[gravygraber59]

If any kind of power adder was to be added to either of those type motors they would fly apart very quickly.
Also there is some major money spent to get that kind of hp from a na motor.
I know ps truck motors used to go for 80 to 100k when that class was running and a pro stock motor will run you around 150,000 to 200,000 if someone would sell a competive motor.
T guess it depends on who builds it, but NHRA Pro Stock motors can be had for about hte same as the ProMod $75-100,000. Alot of those guys still do lease programs. I've seen several of the old prostock truck motors running spray with no prob. Don't know the numbers, but they ran good. Some of those odl parts are filtering down the ladder.
At 900 ci the cost is in the parts, everything is going to be a one off. With NHRA and some other classes limiting the bore-spacing to 5" the block will be custom and heads to fit and so on. You think that is not going to add up to about the same.

[wade_racing]

a 900 inch motor will be an engineering marvel to say the least and like you guys have pointed out everything will have to be custom made. you will have to build a custon CNC Block probably from chuck nuyton (sp) down in rock port his son doees dam good work and then you have to find a head that will flow enough and have the durface area to cover a block that big. like you guys would love to see one.... jesel would have to build a really big belt drive...lol

[Moose Jr]

If any kind of power adder was to be added to either of those type motors they would fly apart very quickly.
Also there is some major money spent to get that kind of hp from a na motor.
I know ps truck motors used to go for 80 to 100k when that class was running and a pro stock motor will run you around 150,000 to 200,000 if someone would sell a competive motor.

Pro Stock motors usually aren't sold, they are leased.

[slow55]

Pro Stock motors usually aren't sold, they are leased.
I know. Thats why I said "if" someone would sell one.

[slow55]

T guess it depends on who builds it, but NHRA Pro Stock motors can be had for about hte same as the ProMod $75-100,000. Alot of those guys still do lease programs. I've seen several of the old prostock truck motors running spray with no prob. Don't know the numbers, but they ran good. Some of those odl parts are filtering down the ladder.
At 900 ci the cost is in the parts, everything is going to be a one off. With NHRA and some other classes limiting the bore-spacing to 5" the block will be custom and heads to fit and so on. You think that is not going to add up to about the same.
i'm sure you can buy a nhra ps motor around 75,000 to 100,000 but your not going to touch one that is able to qualify for that amount. Most pro stock builders build 5 to 10 motors at a time and they keep the ones that make power and sell off the ones that don't to finance building 10 more motors. The top builders is nhra
Anderson,johnson,morgan,jenkins have said outright that they will not sell a motor. Morgan and jenkins will lease you a motor for about 800,000 for the year and even then you can't take it apart or service it and don't get to keep it.