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Cmarsh93z
07-03-2006, 11:40 AM
Did anyone see the drag test in MM&FF this month?? I think they got one of those 50K+ Shelbys to run a low 12 @ 117mph stock. Still going to get SMOKED by the new Z06, but not too bad. discuss ;)

Chris

GR8WHITE
07-03-2006, 11:42 AM
Put a live axle in that sumbitch and I'll show you some mid 11's....

Juiced4V
07-03-2006, 11:45 AM
Put a live axle in that sumbitch and I'll show you some mid 11's....

true...what does a Z06 run?

Zinc_Stang
07-03-2006, 11:50 AM
true...what does a Z06 run?
Carlos got 10.98??? I know it had his intake on it that he designed, maybe a tune and supposedly had longtubes, stock exhaust. I think he was the first in 10's, close to stock.

Moose Jr
07-03-2006, 11:58 AM
Put a live axle in that sumbitch and I'll show you some mid 11's....

In the Shelby? I think it does have a live axle.

Dacotua
07-03-2006, 11:59 AM
Carlos got 10.98??? I know it had his intake on it that he designed, maybe a tune and supposedly had longtubes, stock exhaust. I think he was the first in 10's, close to stock.

Any mods and the bet is off. A pulley change on the GT-500 would be classifed "Close to Stock" but effects the car in many different ways.

Comparing a Mustang to a Vette is like Apples and Oranges.

Mustang weights 3900 pounds (The GT-500) vs a Z06 which weighs what? 3000 pounds?

A better comparison would be the Z06 vs the Ford GT. Hell last night on TV they were comparing the Ford GT Vs the Viper SRT10 (Ford GT Won 2 out of the 3 drag races)

Zinc_Stang
07-03-2006, 12:00 PM
Yeah thats very true. Its really hard to compare. Based on price and looks I would take the vette.

SVTVenom
07-03-2006, 12:01 PM
In the Shelby? I think it does have a live axle.

It does.

The best they got it to run was a 12.257 at 117.18 mph (2.11 60-foot).

That was with Evan J. Smith driving, powershifting 2nd and having to pedal it in 2nd because of no traction.

grape
07-03-2006, 12:13 PM
i can't believe smith could only muster a 2.11 60ft, hell an old z06 on goodyears will 60 ft a touch below 2.0.

SVTVenom
07-03-2006, 12:17 PM
i can't believe smith could only muster a 2.11 60ft, hell an old z06 on goodyears will 60 ft a touch below 2.0.

It wasn't from a lack of driving ability, its just that car has so much power and torque. Put some 18" D/R's on that car and it will be in the 11's with ease.

AL P
07-03-2006, 12:45 PM
I'm not impressed.

46Tbird
07-03-2006, 12:56 PM
I'm not impressed.How many dead stock 12.2/117 cars can you think of that weigh 4200lbs? Maybe an AMG-something?

That bitch would be brutal if they offer a stripper 3100lb version...

SVTVenom
07-03-2006, 01:02 PM
How many dead stock 12.2/117 cars can you think of that weigh 4200lbs? Maybe an AMG-something?

That bitch would be brutal if they offer a stripper 3100lb version...

Very few cars can do that. If you thought the 03/04 Cobra stock intake was like it breathing through a staw, the stock intake on the GT500 is like a coffee stirrer.

OMEGA DOOM
07-03-2006, 03:25 PM
Very few cars can do that. If you thought the 03/04 Cobra stock intake was like it breathing through a staw, the stock intake on the GT500 is like a coffee stirrer.so, that means alot of room for improvement? which = more money! ;)

SVTVenom
07-03-2006, 04:11 PM
so, that means alot of room for improvement? which = more money! ;)

Well, think about it: 05/06/07 GT's usually are seeing 10-20rwhp from just a CAI and tune. Those are N/A 4.6 3V cars. This is a Supercharged 5.4 4V.

03/04 Cobras saw 20rwhp gains from a CAI and no tuning at all.

We may see a 30-40rwhp increase from just a CAI and tuning on this car.

Kris
07-03-2006, 04:17 PM
How many dead stock 12.2/117 cars can you think of that weigh 4200lbs? Maybe an AMG-something?

That bitch would be brutal if they offer a stripper 3100lb version...

I agree with danny on that.

2cammer97
07-03-2006, 04:55 PM
I'm not impressed.

I know it's no Pants Shitting Fear, but still not too shabby. :)

It's too bad that they'll cost $50k+ instead of the $42k sticker it should cost.

Anyone think with pulley, exhaust, CAI, tune, and slicks they could be a 600 hp/10 second car? Or is that stretching it?

Marcus

92Notch
07-03-2006, 06:22 PM
I know it's no Pants Shitting Fear, but still not too shabby. :)

It's too bad that they'll cost $50k+ instead of the $42k sticker it should cost.

Anyone think with pulley, exhaust, CAI, tune, and slicks they could be a 600 hp/10 second car? Or is that stretching it?

Marcusmmff said that 600rwhp with pulley cai and tune should see 600rwhp

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:23 PM
How many dead stock 12.2/117 cars can you think of that weigh 4200lbs? Maybe an AMG-something?

That bitch would be brutal if they offer a stripper 3100lb version...

My 06 GTO weighs over 4k I get lousy tire smoken 2.06 60s but mine doesnt have a supercharger.

GARS04
07-03-2006, 06:25 PM
Any mods and the bet is off. A pulley change on the GT-500 would be classifed "Close to Stock" but effects the car in many different ways.

Comparing a Mustang to a Vette is like Apples and Oranges.

Mustang weights 3900 pounds (The GT-500) vs a Z06 which weighs what? 3000 pounds?

A better comparison would be the Z06 vs the Ford GT. Hell last night on TV they were comparing the Ford GT Vs the Viper SRT10 (Ford GT Won 2 out of the 3 drag races)

Vette = 3147
Cobra = 3896

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:29 PM
Any mods and the bet is off. A pulley change on the GT-500 would be classifed "Close to Stock" but effects the car in many different ways.

Comparing a Mustang to a Vette is like Apples and Oranges.

Mustang weights 3900 pounds (The GT-500) vs a Z06 which weighs what? 3000 pounds?

A better comparison would be the Z06 vs the Ford GT. Hell last night on TV they were comparing the Ford GT Vs the Viper SRT10 (Ford GT Won 2 out of the 3 drag races)

GT-500 alone says it is a modified car it isn't run of the mill assembly line NA car. It is a specially made custom car and more custom that the standard Z06.

You would have to use a Lingenfelter vs Shelby. lol

Just stiring the pot. But I will put a S/C with just 6PSI on my 4k GTO Judge then they should be close to price, weight, HP and we can run them.

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:32 PM
Vette = 3147
Cobra = 3896

Thats pretty major diff at any rate but they dont drive themselves so better add some driver weight to them both. ;)

Adam
07-03-2006, 06:37 PM
GT-500 alone says it is a modified car it isn't run of the mill assembly line NA car. It is a specially made custom car and more custom that the standard Z06.

You would have to use a Lingenfelter vs Shelby. lol

Just stiring the pot. But I will put a S/C with just 6PSI on my 4k GTO Judge then they should be close to price, weight, HP and we can run them.
Gto's are still slow.

92Notch
07-03-2006, 06:39 PM
Gto's are still slow.and fucking ugly

Adam
07-03-2006, 06:41 PM
and fucking ugly
Meh they're alright.

92Notch
07-03-2006, 06:42 PM
Meh they're alright. :rolleyes:

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:43 PM
Gto's are still slow.

You want to run her and see how slow? :D

Adam
07-03-2006, 06:43 PM
:rolleyes:
I still would never buy one of those overpriced turds.

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:44 PM
and fucking ugly

LOL only because all you can see is the ass leaving you in the dirt.

92Notch
07-03-2006, 06:44 PM
I still would never buy one of those overpriced turds.
me either they look like shit with the wing and even worse with it off!

Adam
07-03-2006, 06:44 PM
You want to run her and see how slow? :D
Whats done to it?What yr. auto or manual?

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:45 PM
I still would never buy one of those overpriced turds.

I get 29 mph and have over 330 to the ground stock can cary my kids and still bust your GTs ass so who cares lol.

The GT500 will be way over priced makes is a shit box in that case.

Adam
07-03-2006, 06:46 PM
I get 29 mph and have over 350 to the ground stock can cary my kids and still bust your GTs ass so who cares lol.

The GT500 will be way over priced makes is a shit box in that case.
I highly doubt you will beat my gt.Especially if your car is stock.

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:47 PM
I highly doubt you will beat my gt.Especially if your car is stock.

Lets try it out and see. come with radials no power adder and lets find out.

Adam
07-03-2006, 06:47 PM
Lets try it out and see. come with radials no power adder and lets find out.
Run what ya brung.

Adam
07-03-2006, 06:48 PM
Lets try it out and see. come with radials no power adder and lets find out.
1/8th mile ok.

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 06:48 PM
Run what ya brung.

And your askin someone else to run you thier motor to your juice lol Buy a leg to stand on son.

If you need a pa and still can get it done don't cry to momma hehe ;)

You wanna met at Kdale or something say Wed/Thursday?

HobieF3
07-03-2006, 07:25 PM
Too much weight, too much money, only to be JUST a Mustang.

Mustangs are supposed to be pony cars, cheap fun cars. I never liked the Cobra R bullshit and I don't like this 4Klb pig.

I wouldn't pay over 50K (link of several with bids over 50K) for a new Mustang. No matter what it's got under the hood, it's still just a Mustang, still the same car 16 y/o HS cheerleaders drive.

http://search.ebay.com/GT500_W0QQfromZR40QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd

These cars are going to be purchased by baby-boomers trying to relive a bygone era.

For the money I'd much rather have a better car.

Zinc_Stang
07-03-2006, 07:30 PM
And your askin someone else to run you thier motor to your juice lol Buy a leg to stand on son.

If you need a pa and still can get it done don't cry to momma hehe ;)

You wanna met at Kdale or something say Wed/Thursday?
You still havent said what you have? For all he knows you have heads/cam.

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 07:32 PM
Too much weight, too much money, only to be JUST a Mustang.

Mustangs are supposed to be pony cars, cheap fun cars. I never liked the Cobra R bullshit and I don't like this 4Klb pig.

I wouldn't pay over 50K (link of several with bids over 50K) for a new Mustang. No matter what it's got under the hood, it's still just a Mustang, still the same car 16 y/o HS cheerleaders drive.

http://search.ebay.com/GT500_W0QQfromZR40QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd

These cars are going to be purchased by baby-boomers trying to relive a bygone era.

For the money I'd much rather have a better car.

Pretty much my point. I think the GTO is over priced some but then it is loaded with some nice luxry stuff. I was looking for some HP sport handling and enough back seat space to put my kids in they ain't small any more.

I happen to like the 06 with the new hood style and mine has a totally different rear spoiler and ground effects.

I hope you run low 8s Hatch.

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 07:34 PM
You still havent said what you have? For all he knows you have heads/cam.

Yes i did I said it was a stock GTO.

Pics of the day I bought it. I put larger tires on the ones from factory wer too narrow. 235 40 18 new ones are 245 40 18s straighter side walls looks a little better put my old tires on the wifes STS.

I wasn't the one started calling peoples cars turds and ugly either.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Thumper76/100_0259.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Thumper76/100_0265.jpg

92Notch
07-03-2006, 07:39 PM
Yes i did I said it was a stock GTO.

Pics of the day I bought it. I put larger tires on the ones from factory wer too narrow. 235 40 18 new ones are 245 40 18s straighter side walls looks a little better put my old tires on the wifes STS

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Thumper76/100_0259.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Thumper76/100_0265.jpgbody kit yuck!

92Notch
07-03-2006, 07:43 PM
I get 29 mph and have over 330 to the ground stock can cary my kids and still bust your GTs ass so who cares lol.

The GT500 will be way over priced makes is a shit box in that case.my car put down 330 and gets 27mpg does not look as ugly, want to run me on the highway with that almight lsx?

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 07:46 PM
body kit yuck!

Your dad didnt beat your ass enough or teach you any kind of respect did he?

"If you don't have anything nice to say or at least constructive and useful then shut your fucking mouth." lol

Man I never miss the turd kids on this place that can't simply have a constructive conversation. All ya gotta say is you don't care for it. I like it and if you don't tough shit. at least my cars really are fast when I am done and they don't blow up and spend 2 years in the garage for every 10 minutes of run time. :eek:

Also you don't have to qoute the pics and make the post 10 miles long trim it up some. ;)

Zinc_Stang
07-03-2006, 07:47 PM
Yes i did I said it was a stock GTO.

Pics of the day I bought it. I put larger tires on the ones from factory wer too narrow. 235 40 18 new ones are 245 40 18s straighter side walls looks a little better put my old tires on the wifes STS.

I wasn't the one started calling peoples cars turds and ugly either.

Yeah your right man, looks pretty good too.

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 07:48 PM
my car put down 330 and gets 27mpg does not look as ugly, want to run me on the highway with that almight lsx?

Sure let me bring my modded car so I can make power a bone stocker makes lmao. I'll run ya anyways and I still get better mpg than you and mine aint ugly either. :p

Phoenix383
07-03-2006, 07:50 PM
Yeah your right man, looks pretty good too.

Thanks man. I know it aint the best looking hot rod around there are others I would rather have but all around it fits my needs and wants the best.

slow99
07-03-2006, 08:02 PM
my car put down 330 and gets 27mpg does not look as ugly, want to run me on the highway with that almight lsx?

sure! :)

stegmonster
07-03-2006, 08:06 PM
Thats what matters. ;)

92Notch
07-03-2006, 08:09 PM
sure! :)
not you :p

SVTVenom
07-03-2006, 08:35 PM
Too much weight, too much money, only to be JUST a Mustang.

Mustangs are supposed to be pony cars, cheap fun cars. I never liked the Cobra R bullshit and I don't like this 4Klb pig.

I wouldn't pay over 50K (link of several with bids over 50K) for a new Mustang. No matter what it's got under the hood, it's still just a Mustang, still the same car 16 y/o HS cheerleaders drive.

http://search.ebay.com/GT500_W0QQfromZR40QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd

These cars are going to be purchased by baby-boomers trying to relive a bygone era.

For the money I'd much rather have a better car.

How many 16 year old HS cheerleaders drive Cobras or even GT's? None that I've seen. They are all 6 bangers.

Some people say a Mustang is a Mustang, but that isn't the case at all. The body shape is the same and thats about it.

Its not worth $50k+ but it is pretty close to being worth $42k sticker.

Skidonenko
07-03-2006, 08:58 PM
true...what does a Z06 run?

I saw 2 stock with paper tags on one at ennins opulling high 11's @127mph, hell one guy smoked the shit out of his clutch and was still running 125 mph later in the night

Vertnut
07-03-2006, 09:16 PM
A guy on LS1tech.com ran 11.31 bone stock (tires and all), and backed it up with 11.50. Later ran 11.20 with DR's only. It is his car, not a magazine queen that's been tweaked. That's after a 2 hour drive to the track...

slow99
07-03-2006, 09:20 PM
hell motor trend pulled an 11.5 at 127 outta the new z.

2cammer97
07-03-2006, 10:44 PM
People in here keeps talking about the new Z. Aren't those going for $75K? That's a heck of a lot more money than the new GT500, even with the mark up to $50k.

Marcus

slow99
07-03-2006, 11:50 PM
People in here keeps talking about the new Z. Aren't those going for $75K? That's a heck of a lot more money than the new GT500, even with the mark up to $50k.

Marcus

it probably has something to do with the thread in the back porch with the "z06 annihilator" going for $73k.

That_Is_My_El_Camino
07-03-2006, 11:54 PM
What's a stock non-ZO6 C6 running?

92Notch
07-04-2006, 12:21 AM
What's a stock non-ZO6 C6 running?not 12.25@117

slow99
07-04-2006, 12:46 AM
What's a stock non-ZO6 C6 running?

car and driver let john force drive the base c6 in their head to head shootout, my grandmother drove the gt500.

92Notch
07-04-2006, 12:48 AM
car and driver let john force drive the base c6 in their head to head shootout, my grandmother drove the gt500.john force is not dumb enough to drive a vette he loves mustangs

That_Is_My_El_Camino
07-04-2006, 12:53 AM
john force is not dumb enough to drive a vette he loves mustangsHe's not dumb enough to drive a Ford-powered Mustang, either.

92Notch
07-04-2006, 12:55 AM
He's not dumb enough to drive a Ford-powered Mustang, either.what would you say his car is powered by if its not a ford?

That_Is_My_El_Camino
07-04-2006, 12:56 AM
Keith Black?

SVTVenom
07-04-2006, 01:05 AM
what would you say his car is powered by if its not a ford?

He's sponsor is Ford, but there is nothing Ford about that Funny Car he drives.

SLOW 77
07-04-2006, 01:24 AM
I just have one question, why in the hell did they make it 3900#'s???

That totally kilks it for me.

SVTVenom
07-04-2006, 01:29 AM
I just have one question, why in the hell did they make it 3900#'s???

That totally kilks it for me.

Well, an iron block weighs more than an aluminum block. They would have had to charge even more to justify the cost of using an aluminum block and didn't want to do that to the customer seeing has how its already at $42k for a coupe.

The M122 is bigger/heavier than the M112 that is on the 03/04 Cobra.

Also, the S197 platform is bigger than the SN95 platform so you are dealing with more car, hence more weight.

SLOW 77
07-04-2006, 01:36 AM
I know about the platform and the block. To me the reason I would buy a Mustang has always been how light weight they where. When you start throwing around almost 2K of weight things are going to break, or wear out quickly. I just don't think this was the right idea with this car.

They need a stripper version and lose 500 pounds out of it and it will be on top of its game. Hopefully enough people will ask for one, and Ford will make one! I would even be game for one then.

92Notch
07-04-2006, 01:38 AM
He's sponsor is Ford, but there is nothing Ford about that Funny Car he drives.i know this im just messing with him because you cant really say its powered by ford gm dodge what ever. its just powered by a big ass motor lol

SVTVenom
07-04-2006, 03:12 AM
I know about the platform and the block. To me the reason I would buy a Mustang has always been how light weight they where. When you start throwing around almost 2K of weight things are going to break, or wear out quickly. I just don't think this was the right idea with this car.

They need a stripper version and lose 500 pounds out of it and it will be on top of its game. Hopefully enough people will ask for one, and Ford will make one! I would even be game for one then.

You might be able to remove 100lbs by doing a rear seat delete, replace the front seats with lighter high-performance seats, and taking out the spare tire/jack.

turbostang
07-04-2006, 10:48 AM
Yes i did I said it was a stock GTO.

Pics of the day I bought it. I put larger tires on the ones from factory wer too narrow. 235 40 18 new ones are 245 40 18s straighter side walls looks a little better put my old tires on the wifes STS.

I wasn't the one started calling peoples cars turds and ugly either.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Thumper76/100_0259.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/Thumper76/100_0265.jpg


Eric your car isn't stock by your definition either though - Doesn't a Judge have dealer installed exhaust and CAI? or maybe more? You have drag radials as well. Did you get the clutch replaced? (last time I saw you at the track it got smoked pretty good...

Skidonenko
07-04-2006, 10:56 AM
I know about the platform and the block. To me the reason I would buy a Mustang has always been how light weight they where. When you start throwing around almost 2K of weight things are going to break, or wear out quickly. I just don't think this was the right idea with this car.

They need a stripper version and lose 500 pounds out of it and it will be on top of its game. Hopefully enough people will ask for one, and Ford will make one! I would even be game for one then.

You have to look at how cars are built now, all the crash braces, plastic, sound/heat insulation. Now a days the majority of fords market wont settle for something that rattles, cant turn into an oven, or only has the bare minimum inside. They are geared more toward car/driver and motor trend readers.

< I would love a striped down modle

Phoenix383
07-04-2006, 11:01 AM
Eric your car isn't stock by your definition either though - Doesn't a Judge have dealer installed exhaust and CAI? or maybe more? You have drag radials as well. Did you get the clutch replaced? (last time I saw you at the track it got smoked pretty good...

No it has the stock Air intake and stock cats, resonater back it does have borla muflers woot there 0 hP gain over the boners just sounds different. for highway I us 245 40 18 General ZRs I have some BFG DRs now yes 245 40 18s not even slicks but they do hook at the track pretty good. No the stock clutch is still in it and wil be until it fries. It only torched that one pass some but still works I just wont be doing any massive launches. It has Headers, Dyno tune, K&N filter now. I lost power with the headers and gain back some with a tune. I doubt the headers were worth it without some cam change. but i like the sound better. the Judge package is body BS I just wanted to have the name attached to it since thats what they labled it. Always been a GTO Judge fan but couldnt afford an original.

The Dyno tune gained a whole 14.5 hp and 10 ft lbs tq across the entire curve not a massive amount it went from 11.5 AF to 12.8 and from 22 degrress of timing to 27 total thats pretty much all but it runs 100% smoother than it did before tune. The extra avg mpg I am getting after the tune is worth it to me.

Moose Jr
07-04-2006, 11:01 AM
I just have one question, why in the hell did they make it 3900#'s???

That totally kilks it for me.

The real question is...why didn't Ford just build a 427 to match the zo6? maybe get the weight down to 3300-3400 lbs. I know it still would not out run the ZO6 but hey, at least you could match it in cubic inches! :D

Adam
07-04-2006, 11:03 AM
Thanks man. I know it aint the best looking hot rod around there are others I would rather have but all around it fits my needs and wants the best.
Whatever floats your boat.

Phoenix383
07-04-2006, 11:08 AM
I agree that both Ford and GM have lost thier minds when it comes to making these cars weigh so much. with the technology of today and what they charge us anyways they could make them lighter and stronger for the same price if they really wanted to.

I also think ford should use a biger cube motor I never understood sticking with the small cubes it isnt because they get better gas mileage.

Phoenix383
07-04-2006, 11:12 AM
I know about the platform and the block. To me the reason I would buy a Mustang has always been how light weight they where. When you start throwing around almost 2K of weight things are going to break, or wear out quickly. I just don't think this was the right idea with this car.

They need a stripper version and lose 500 pounds out of it and it will be on top of its game. Hopefully enough people will ask for one, and Ford will make one! I would even be game for one then.

Hey I am still waiting on the phone call so I can talk to you about the old slow 77!!!!

STROKD
07-04-2006, 01:53 PM
Too much weight, too much money, only to be JUST a Mustang.

Mustangs are supposed to be pony cars, cheap fun cars. I never liked the Cobra R bullshit and I don't like this 4Klb pig.

I wouldn't pay over 50K (link of several with bids over 50K) for a new Mustang. No matter what it's got under the hood, it's still just a Mustang, still the same car 16 y/o HS cheerleaders drive.

http://search.ebay.com/GT500_W0QQfromZR40QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZd

These cars are going to be purchased by baby-boomers trying to relive a bygone era.

For the money I'd much rather have a better car.
Agreed! I am glad my dad was a Mopar fanatic as a kid, and never really liked older Stangs... That and he is mad it is only a few hundred pounds lighter than his Lightning... :rolleyes:

SLOW 77
07-04-2006, 02:04 PM
Hey I am still waiting on the phone call so I can talk to you about the old slow 77!!!!
PM me with your number and I'll give you a call, no problem.

Adam
07-04-2006, 02:53 PM
No it has the stock Air intake and stock cats, resonater back it does have borla muflers woot there 0 hP gain over the boners just sounds different. for highway I us 245 40 18 General ZRs I have some BFG DRs now yes 245 40 18s not even slicks but they do hook at the track pretty good. No the stock clutch is still in it and wil be until it fries. It only torched that one pass some but still works I just wont be doing any massive launches. It has Headers, Dyno tune, K&N filter now. I lost power with the headers and gain back some with a tune. I doubt the headers were worth it without some cam change. but i like the sound better. the Judge package is body BS I just wanted to have the name attached to it since thats what they labled it. Always been a GTO Judge fan but couldnt afford an original.

The Dyno tune gained a whole 14.5 hp and 10 ft lbs tq across the entire curve not a massive amount it went from 11.5 AF to 12.8 and from 22 degrress of timing to 27 total thats pretty much all but it runs 100% smoother than it did before tune. The extra avg mpg I am getting after the tune is worth it to me.
So you've got a 6.0 ls2 gto and You put down what? if you actually run mid-low 8's you'd be the first gto I've seen break 9.0x's( sad isn't it.).

Super Coupe
07-04-2006, 03:00 PM
Ive seen one busting some low 8's on drag radials. I don't know his mods but it ran good but that first gear was killing him. It was trapping like 85 or 86mph.

Adam
07-04-2006, 03:02 PM
Ive seen one busting some low 8's on drag radials. I don't know his mods but it ran good but that first gear was killing him. It was trapping like 85 or 86mph.
I should rephrase that I've only seen auto gto's at the track. One was a 6.0 and one was a ls1 and neither of them Impressed me too much. But Like I said to each his own.

92Notch
07-04-2006, 03:07 PM
I should rephrase that I've only seen auto gto's at the track. One was a 6.0 and one was a ls1 and neither of them Impressed me too much. But Like I said to each his own.either way a 99-04 gt looks much better

ThreeFingerPete
07-04-2006, 03:15 PM
no offense adam, but your car doesnt really impress alot of people either.
ford wont put a 427 in the mustang because the obnoxious mod motor wont support the displacement, they would have to change alot of stuff. i like the gto for what it is, an awesome daily fun car that can run well. it is OBVIOUSLY not aimed towards the drag racer.

92Notch
07-04-2006, 03:18 PM
no offense adam, but your car doesnt really impress alot of people either.
ford wont put a 427 in the mustang because the obnoxious mod motor wont support the displacement, they would have to change alot of stuff. i like the gto for what it is, an awesome daily fun car that can run well. it is OBVIOUSLY not aimed towards the drag racer.what kinda cars are impressive to you?

Adam
07-04-2006, 03:19 PM
no offense adam, but your car doesnt really impress alot of people either.
ford wont put a 427 in the mustang because the obnoxious mod motor wont support the displacement, they would have to change alot of stuff. i like the gto for what it is, an awesome daily fun car that can run well. it is OBVIOUSLY not aimed towards the drag racer.
I never said my car was very impressive. But it sure did cost alot less than a Gto. As far as running good at the track I haven't seen a gto that impressed me thats not to say that they don't exist but I just haven't seen any. As far as being a nice daily driver, it probably is, it's just not my style. To each his own.

Adam
07-04-2006, 03:20 PM
no offense adam, but your car doesnt really impress alot of people either.
ford wont put a 427 in the mustang because the obnoxious mod motor wont support the displacement, they would have to change alot of stuff. i like the gto for what it is, an awesome daily fun car that can run well. it is OBVIOUSLY not aimed towards the drag racer.
And by the way who are you?

AdamLX
07-04-2006, 03:22 PM
Figured this thread needed more Adam.

Adam
07-04-2006, 03:23 PM
Figured this thread needed more Adam.
Yep now there is 3 adams in this thread.

92Notch
07-04-2006, 03:26 PM
Yep now there is 3 adams in this thread. my middle name is adam

j/k

Adam
07-04-2006, 03:49 PM
my middle name is adam

j/k
4lol

ThreeFingerPete
07-04-2006, 07:08 PM
what kinda cars are impressive to you?

Fast cars that are cheap(er) and/or fly under radar, or are an outstanding value of performance.


New ZO6 = Impressive, GT500= NOT impressive. Ferrari 360= NOT impressive, Porsche ...= Impressive, Cummins = Impressive, Powersmoke= NOT impressive. Do you see a trend? Cars that deliver more power, or the potential for more power or performance without absorbing 200% more money to do so than other cars in their class.

slow99
07-04-2006, 07:18 PM
Fast cars that are cheap(er) and/or fly under radar, or are an outstanding value of performance.


New ZO6 = Impressive, GT500= NOT impressive. Ferrari 360= NOT impressive, Porsche ...= Impressive, Cummins = Impressive, Powersmoke= NOT impressive. Do you see a trend? Cars that deliver more power, or the potential for more power or performance without absorbing 200% more money to do so than other cars in their class.

c5 z06? :o :)

ThreeFingerPete
07-04-2006, 07:19 PM
c5 z06? :o :)

Yessa!

That_Is_My_El_Camino
07-04-2006, 07:19 PM
Ford GT?

ThreeFingerPete
07-04-2006, 07:23 PM
Ford GT?

Not compared to the C6 Z06, now is it?

89stangGT
07-04-2006, 07:28 PM
my car put down 330 and gets 27mpg does not look as ugly, want to run me on the highway with that almight lsx?

awesome. let's go! ;) mine only puts down around 80 to the wheel.

Zfan
07-04-2006, 07:38 PM
Eric,

You over here stirring up shit, must be a slow day over at DFWSS ;) Screw em! I like the 06 GTO's they just need to shed a few lbs.

Mike

STANGGT40
07-04-2006, 07:44 PM
fords going to produce 8k per year of these cars...i wouldn't think that there are enough people to pay over sticker for more than a year...i figure that next year you'll be able to get a decent deal on one, which would make it a little nicer. then just ditch the rear seat, jack, spare, and anything else that's not necessary...and call forrest (he can take some weight out) :D

brad

blownragtop
07-04-2006, 09:13 PM
A Mustang is designed from the outset to be a low cost car. That’s why it’s not made of aluminum, magnesium and balsa wood like a Corvette. Too expensive. It strikes me as somewhat moronic to bash Ford for making the most powerful and best performing Mustang ever by complaining that it’s not as light as a fiberglass 2 seater. No shit.

Additionally the government, in its infinite wisdom, feels the need to protect all the dimwitted freeway racers from their own stupidity and has therefore mandated a series of ever tightening impact crash standards. As a consequence cars are getting heavier. When the Challenger and Camaro come to market they will weigh just as much as a regular Mustang (3500~3600 lbs). The era of the lightweight foxbody is gone. Get used to it.

ThreeFingerPete
07-04-2006, 09:15 PM
A Mustang is designed from the outset to be a low cost car.
Then why is this 500hp piece of shit 50,000$?
That’s why it’s not made of aluminum, magnesium and balsa wood like a Corvette. Too expensive.
Well, if you look at what you can buy for 25,000$, a new GT, and then what you can buy for 50,000$, a new GT500, the main difference being a different motor, I'm having a little trouble giving a damn about why I'm supposed to be impressed, when for the same difference in money between those two mustangs, on top of the price of the GT500, you can drive a nice, ultralight, extremely good handling car, not just a 25,000$ car with a body kit and a powerful motor.

It strikes me as somewhat moronic to bash Ford for making the most powerful and best performing Mustang ever by complaining that it’s not as light as a fiberglass 2 seater. No shit.

Well, we agree. If that car were 35,000$ like the 03/04 cobra, I'd be a little more inclined to give it some credit, but nearing the cost of a much superior car, with little more claim to fame than "xxx horzepowerz!" and Shelby's name on it isn't going to cut it for me. I hope everyone else loves their 50,000$ mustang.

When the Challenger and Camaro come to market they will weigh just as much as a Mustang (3500~3600 lbs). The era of the lightweight foxbody is gone. Get used to it.

Put me on the list of people who don't give two shits about the newest 'pony/muscle/teenage girl/boyracer/whatever' cars. I'm sorry, none of these fucking cars are worth the 40,000$ they are (or are going to) ask for them.

blownragtop
07-04-2006, 09:44 PM
Then why is this 500hp piece of shit 50,000$?

Sticker price is in the low 40’s. ANYONE dumb enough to pay over sticker for ANY car is a FUCKING RETARD and deserves their fate. Is it worth $40,000? Maybe, maybe not.


I hope everyone else loves their 50,000$ mustang.

Personally I hope it bombs - kinda like the GTO – and when the vultures start circling I may be interested.

ThreeFingerPete
07-04-2006, 09:47 PM
Personally I hope it bombs - kinda like the GTO – and when the vultures start circling I may be interested.

I hope it bombs aswell. *I* would have been interested in a GTO @ 26k, which was eventually what you could get one for, as opposed to 35k when they hit the lots.

blownragtop
07-04-2006, 09:59 PM
Hopefully the old geezer’s name doesn’t bring in too many gold chain wearing douche bags.

I saw GTO’s go for less than 24. For that price it was tempting.

ThreeFingerPete
07-04-2006, 10:14 PM
Hopefully the old geezer’s name doesn’t bring in too many gold chain wearing douche bags.

Hope in one hand, and shit in the other... You know good and damned well that they will be out in droves to snatch these up, gold nugget rings displayed arrogantly on all fingers.

Moose Jr
07-04-2006, 10:59 PM
no offense adam, but your car doesnt really impress alot of people either.
ford wont put a 427 in the mustang because the obnoxious mod motor wont support the displacement, they would have to change alot of stuff. i like the gto for what it is, an awesome daily fun car that can run well. it is OBVIOUSLY not aimed towards the drag racer.

Fuck a mod motor, give me some pushrods! :p

92Notch
07-04-2006, 11:22 PM
Fuck a mod motor, give me some pushrods! :px2

ThreeFingerPete
07-05-2006, 12:46 AM
Fuck a mod motor, give me some pushrods! :p
xeleventy fucking billion.

Super Coupe
07-05-2006, 02:13 AM
xeleventy fucking billion.

Hey fool your R1 didn't have push rods!

ThreeFingerPete
07-05-2006, 02:50 AM
if a cobra weighed 400lbs, I'd probably buy one of those too!

That_Is_My_El_Camino
07-05-2006, 02:54 AM
P W N 3 D ! ! !

Phoenix383
07-05-2006, 01:54 PM
So you've got a 6.0 ls2 gto and You put down what? if you actually run mid-low 8's you'd be the first gto I've seen break 9.0x's( sad isn't it.).

Yes mine ran 8.84@81 with factory goodrich radials I put the headers, K&N and 245 40 18 BFG DRs on and it ran 8.73@82 smoken the tires through first and part of 2nd no burnout test pass to see at 14.5 psi in the tires 2.06 60'. Did a good burn out it hooked but the clutch just wouldn't hold the wieght of the car plus the decent tq.

We will see how she runs with the tuning. added 5 degrees of timing and pulled out 1.3 AF from 11.5 to 12.8 WOT.

302_plus_a_few
07-05-2006, 10:42 PM
Yes mine ran 8.84@81:eek: That's weaker than minnow piss!

92Notch
07-05-2006, 10:44 PM
:eek: That's weaker than minnow piss! :eek:

Adam
07-05-2006, 10:46 PM
Yes mine ran 8.84@81 with factory goodrich radials I put the headers, K&N and 245 40 18 BFG DRs on and it ran 8.73@82 smoken the tires through first and part of 2nd no burnout test pass to see at 14.5 psi in the tires 2.06 60'. Did a good burn out it hooked but the clutch just wouldn't hold the wieght of the car plus the decent tq.

We will see how she runs with the tuning. added 5 degrees of timing and pulled out 1.3 AF from 11.5 to 12.8 WOT.
Hey hey you'd be a good run for me on motor then.

Phoenix383
07-05-2006, 11:36 PM
Hey hey you'd be a good run for me on motor then.

I had a general feeling it would be good if you didn't spray.

Adam
07-05-2006, 11:39 PM
I had a general feeling it would be good if you didn't spray.
My normal mph is 80-81 so ya.

Phoenix383
07-06-2006, 11:59 PM
I'll be at Kdale tomorrow nite if ya want come up and say hello and we can run them.

Adam
07-07-2006, 01:13 AM
I'll be at Kdale tomorrow nite if ya want come up and say hello and we can run them.
Lol if you pay my way in I'm broke!

dan03mach
07-07-2006, 11:36 PM
my car put down 330 and gets 27mpg does not look as ugly, want to run me on the highway with that almight lsx?
Pick me Pick me :D

BTW that GTO is a very nice car, it runs pretty good too from the what I saw last but he did make the mistake in calling me out... To bad the track got messed up and that race never happened, it would have been ugly for someone.. ;) Adam you should run him with out your bottle at the track, I think it might be a good run..

32VfromHell
07-08-2006, 02:13 AM
im personally more interested in a new Boss or Mach1. a great car, without the shelby hype that drives up the price and corporate greed.

Phoenix383
07-08-2006, 10:45 AM
:eek: That's weaker than minnow piss!

LOL didn't you need a turbo to get your out of the 10s? :p

Phoenix383
07-08-2006, 10:46 AM
Pick me Pick me :D

BTW that GTO is a very nice car, it runs pretty good too from the what I saw last but he did make the mistake in calling me out... To bad the track got messed up and that race never happened, it would have been ugly for someone.. ;) Adam you should run him with out your bottle at the track, I think it might be a good run..

LOL yeah it woulda been ugly but you were on the list in fron tof the guys I actually wanted to run be nice if you would move up out of my way.

302_plus_a_few
07-08-2006, 01:01 PM
LOL didn't you need a turbo to get your out of the 10s? :pNah, I ran some 8.40s at close to 85mph before the turbo went on (low compression 306ci with a turbo cam in it). That was on the stock pony wheels and wore out, stock size Goodyears all the way around. Don't hate on the Mustangs cause you got suckered into buying a slow pig GM product. :p

dan03mach
07-08-2006, 01:38 PM
LOL yeah it woulda been ugly but you were on the list in fron tof the guys I actually wanted to run be nice if you would move up out of my way.
Once I can get out on the weekends I'll be moving on up in that list that for sure.. ;) So you can run the slower people that are in front of me..

slownbmta
07-08-2006, 06:52 PM
Where do you sign up for these lists :confused: :D

slow99
07-08-2006, 11:57 PM
phoenix383, i've got a 100 right here says you can't bust denny's slow ass shit, you down?

Phoenix383
07-09-2006, 04:34 AM
phoenix383, i've got a 100 right here says you can't bust denny's slow ass shit, you down?

Who is Denny I don't know everyone by name. But I am game to run sure I'll let ya know on the 100 after I find out exactly what I am running an di prefer to do it in Mexico really.

FST FOX
07-09-2006, 05:23 AM
Much wider tire going from a 235 to a 245, huh the difference is laughable, now if you went from a 235 to a 275 then there is a difference, this GTO topic reminds me i need groceries tommorrow :D

Phoenix383
07-09-2006, 12:38 PM
Much wider tire going from a 235 to a 245, huh the difference is laughable, now if you went from a 235 to a 275 then there is a difference, this GTO topic reminds me i need groceries tommorrow :D

an inch is an inch and is is .3" more roll out. lol She is my grocerie getter so makes sence. ;)