Refs did a good job of extending the series for 5 games.

[DHG BULLITT]

Funny how wade has 5 fouls for 9 minutes. And when Miami made that great "run" to come from behind they got every touch foul imaginable while dirk, terry, howard, and stackhouse were POUNDED on the offensive end and Miami got away with it.

Ahhh the NBA is rigged, there is not a single Heat fan out there that can honestly tell me they earned the game all on their own.

[3Dcarbon05]

i completely fucking agree those last 4 minutes were complete bullshit fuck the NBA and fuck those refs

[bcoop]

I agree, but posting what you did gives the pissed off Spurs and Suns fans something to bitch about. :p

[Hollywood]

Why am I not surprised that Mav's fans are blaming the ref's?

And people ask me why I root against the mav's. :rolleyes:

[TX_92_Notch]

Y'all are right, 'cuase those refs made us miss nearly every shot we took during the last several minutes of the game. The Heat went on a 22-7 run, plain and simple.

[Cartman]

Y'all are right, 'cuase those refs made us miss nearly every shot we took during the last several minutes of the game. The Heat went on a 22-7 run, plain and simple.


true but they got 6 points from O rebounds when shaq and walker pushed mavs out of the way with no call.

[Hollywood]

Let's forget about the phantom foul on Dirk in the 3rd that led to 2 easy points for him. Nope, all calls were completely one sided. Then the evil ref's wanting that game 5 used the jedi mind trick to make Dirk miss that clutch free throw. Brilliant!

[bcoop]

Why am I not surprised that Mav's fans are blaming the ref's?

And people ask me why I root against the mav's. :rolleyes:


See what I mean 3DCarbon & DHG Bullitt? ALL non Mavs fans, bitch because Mavs fans have a tendency to cry foul, when a game is poorly officiated. The fact that the game really WAS poorly officiated has no bearing on the situation. But as TX_92_notch said, the refs weren't the ones that went on that last run. The Heat did, and that is why we lost. If the officiating had been a little better, it might have come out differently.

BUT, if the Mavs had shown up and played with the effort we are used to seeing, the game never would have been that close in the first place.

[89 drop top stang]

Why am I not surprised that Mav's fans are blaming the ref's?

And people ask me why I root against the mav's. :rolleyes:

I'm a huge Mavs fan and I won't blame it on the refs. We gave it up those last 4 minutes, despite any fouls that were or were not called. We were giving Wade wide open looks at the basket. I don't care if he's not known for his jump shot, it's the finals, they're at home and he's a star player, those shots are gonna fall. We are by far the better team and we just need to execute better towards the end. Mavs in 5!

Ahhh the NBA is rigged, there is not a single Heat fan out there that can honestly tell me they earned the game all on their own.

b.s. they didn't earn it, they were hitting their shots and we were missing ours. When Dirk is shooting +90% from the line and misses one towards the end, come on. We didn't do anything but shoot ourselves in the foot.

[ZYouL8R]

On the way home from watching the game, I thought to myself "I bet there's a thread about how the officials blew the game / there's an NBA conspiracy theory". Thanks for not letting me down!

[5.8 STANG]

Dont worry boys, now we can maybe win it on our homecourt. We will eb fine

[bcoop]

Dont worry boys, now we can maybe win it on our homecourt. We will eb fine



We have to lose one more there, to win at home. If we win the next two, we are done before coming back to Dallas. Series is 2-3-2

[DHG BULLITT]

The Mavs fucked up...they could've drained a couple easy looks that still would've given us a 4 point or 6 point victory.

BUT...its kind of hard to keep momentum going your way when your superstar is being slapped picked poked hit and molested everytime he touches the ball with in the last 3-4 mins of the game...that is usually when Dirk goes to work, one touch foul is all it would've taken to let the heat players know they weren't gonna put up with any bull, but they just let them play, and there is not much you can do when you're being slaughtered by arms and hands from the opposing team.

[LannyN9NE]

yup you guys are right. The NBA, U.S. Government, France, east coast, God, Allah, ect ect are all against the Dallas Mavs. Hell I bet the 2nd shooter from the grassy knoll was pulling some strings to help Miami win.

[89 drop top stang]

Come on DHG, you know that's part of the game, especially when we're coming into Miami with a 2 game lead. Not saying that they were trying to screw us, but it is Miami at home, that same shit could be said by them when we were playing at home.

[Cartman]

Let's forget about the phantom foul on Dirk in the 3rd that led to 2 easy points for him. Nope, all calls were completely one sided. Then the evil ref's wanting that game 5 used the jedi mind trick to make Dirk miss that clutch free throw. Brilliant!


I agree, that was a bad call, but that still puts dallas up 2 at the end with those calls being made. :D

[wesman]

K....the reach in by Wade on Terry with 2:xx left at midcourt where he hit Terry's entire body wasn't a foul???? That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact Wade had 5 did it....good no call ref :rolleyes:

The NBA did not want the Mavs to win tonight because they know it would be over on Thur and their bankroll would be done.......it will go to 6, and I'll be there to see it.

I predicted all along that we'd lose game 3, take game 4 after adjustments and lose game 5. We then clinch it in Game 6 on our home court.

Just a theory, but I haven't been wrong on a series yet.

--wes

[LannyN9NE]

K....the reach in by Wade on Terry with 2:xx left at midcourt where he hit Terry's entire body wasn't a foul???? That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact Wade had 5 did it....good no call ref :rolleyes:


or perhaps the ref just missed it? or from the angel they have it didnt look as bad? all this the refs/nba want team a to win a certian game to extend it is as bad as the 80% of people who claim to be mavs fans but didnt give a shit 3 weeks ago. the nba is banking off it no matter what because the networks paid a certain amount to televise the games.

[idrivea4banger]

come on now, in the last quarter three questionable fouls against the mavs were b.s. also i find it funny how the heat played like shit for three quarters and all of a sudden at the last theyre making most of their shots and most of their foul shots.....on a final note...wtf were the mavs thinking going for the rebound/assist throw....they were better off trying for the 3....that was a stupid call....in conclusion it will be 4-2 with the mavs winning. thank you and good drunken night.

[lightning2001red]

i bet you guys didnt catch the travel by gary for the game winner :mad:

[mustang_marc]

wtf were the mavs thinking going for the rebound/assist throw....they were better off trying for the 3....that was a stupid call--.You mean the alley-oop at the end?

[AL P]

It's no coincidence that every series goes to a game 6 or game 7. It's all about money.

[ELVIS]

hey, none of ya'll twist an ankle jumping off that fucking bandwagon.

god bless.

[01WhiteCobra]

LMAO!

Mavs win... MAVS ARE GREAT! NOWITZNESS!

Mavs lose... REFS, LET THEM FUCKING PLAY! GREAT JOB AS 6TH MAN FOR MIAMI!

[unkoricky]

Special stars get special treatments...
Just like how Wade tripped Terry in the late 4th QT and they go on to score 2 points to change momentum...

It would have been Wades 6th foul and the game would have been over with if Wade wasnt on the court to make that brutal shot.

[The Big Matt]

no matter what, the refs really let them play the 4th quarter, without a whole lot of BS calls. FOR EITHER TEAM.

The MAVS stunk it up last night. I mean really, where was their game? Why didn't they try to set the pace of the game. They know they can't win playing Miami's game. So don't even try. Run the court, wear Shaq's big ass out. And when you get up, STAY UP. Stop letting go, like it's in the bag with 8 minutes left. FUCK

[wesman]

Special stars get special treatments...
Just like how Wade tripped Terry in the late 4th QT and they go on to score 2 points to change momentum...

It would have been Wades 6th foul and the game would have been over with if Wade wasnt on the court to make that brutal shot.


Glad I wasn't the only one that saw the cross body block that was very evident.

That should have been a foul, should have been 2 free throws, should have been Dwayne Wades 6th

--wes

[unkoricky]

Glad I wasn't the only one that saw the cross body block that was very evident.

That should have been a foul, should have been 2 free throws, should have been Dwayne Wades 6th

--wes
im sure the whole world saw it..pissed me off..but what can we do about it?


If Wade was fouled out, im pretty sure momentum would have swang full throttle to the Mavs, but Im actually not worried us about losing this series...

Coulda Shoulda Woulda, WE WILL WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

[ZYouL8R]

Ya'll are the biggest bunch of crybabies on this board. How about giving Miami some credit saying they finally hit some shots when they needed it most? Or maybe say Dallas went away from their gameplan of driving to the hoop, and started settling for jumpshots? Either way, the refs didn't blow the game for the Mavs, so stop bitching.

[93powerranger]

I have been saying the NBA playoffs are rigged since i was a young lad....back when Jordan and the Bulls always seem to go to 6 or 7 even though they only lose a total of 10-15 games the entire season...its going to GO 6 and MAVS will win it at home.....dont be suprised if the Mavs get blown out in game 5.....then win it at home.

[93powerranger]

I have been saying the NBA playoffs are rigged since i was a young lad....back when Jordan and the Bulls always seem to go to 6 or 7 even though they only lose a total of 10-15 games the entire season...its going to GO 6 and MAVS will win it at home.....dont be suprised if the Mavs get blown out in game 5.....then win it at home.

[BlueThunder99TA]

Mavs went from ramming it down Miami's throat to let's play keep away & settle for 20 footers. :mad: Just like the Dallas Cowboys they get conservative when ahead, need to keep the pressure on em until the clock hits zero.

[hotrod66stang]

What about Shaq hitting both free throw attempts late in the game :eek: . I nearly pissed myself :D . But yes, I did see a lot of non-calls on Miami. Dwayne Wade should have been out of the game. WTF am I doing agreeing with Dallas fans :confused: .

[Zinc_Stang]

Yep you new the Heat were gonna get a game with all the calls. Did anyone see the Heats coach press conference after the game? He basically said the basketball gods were with them. I call it luck, just look at all the things that had to take place in order to pull out a 2pt win on the home court.

[99shestang]

Won't be on ftill Monday!

Go Mavs!

[momo stallion]

some of you people are fucking retarded. if you were heat fans you would probably blame the game on the calls the other way. IMO this and the last 3 games were called very well as opposed to the SA series.

its a loss and it happens. the mavericks arent untouchable, but of course if you wouldnt know that since you dont know shit about basketball. the mavericks played loose basketball in the 4th quarter and miami stepped it up while wade exploded. wade didnt foul out cause he didnt foul.

hollywood is right about you fairweather bandwagon fans.

the mavericks will win because the mavericks are a better team. sit back and enjoy a relatively good nba finals.

[ClockwrkOrangeS4]

some of you people are fucking retarded. if you were heat fans you would probably blame the game on the calls the other way. IMO this and the last 3 games were called very well as opposed to the SA series.

its a loss and it happens. the mavericks arent untouchable, but of course if you wouldnt know that since you dont know shit about basketball. the mavericks played loose basketball in the 4th quarter and miami stepped it up while wade exploded. wade didnt foul out cause he didnt foul.

hollywood is right about you fairweather bandwagon fans.

the mavericks will win because the mavericks are a better team. sit back and enjoy a relatively good nba finals.

did the refs put you up to this? Has Gatorade or Hanes gotten to you too? How deep are your pockets? I have questions.

[momo stallion]

did the refs put you up to this? Has Gatorade or Hanes gotten to you too? How deep are your pockets? I have questions.


lol, after seeing game 1, i expected game 2 to be slanted in favor of miami as the trend was set from the the prior 2 series. i didnt see anything like that and thought it was good officiating.

game 3 had a few moments, but nothing that would change the outcome of a game.

[milk]

I think the Mavs arent playing good in this series at all. That isnt a bad thing though because they are still winning against the Heat. If they were playing like they were in the San Antoinio series or Phoenix it would have ben a cake walk from the start and sweep the series. I mean they played like shit and only lost by 2 points. I say thats the last game the Heat will win. Could be wrong just my .50.. ;)

[bucky]

I am not gonna bitch about the refs.There were phantom calls and blatant pushoffs on both ends.

The Mavs destroy themselves when they jump out to big leads and then go into a halfcourt game on the offensive end to try to run the clock down.It leads to shitty shots or 24 second violations.They need to keep running what got them here so far which is pushing the ball,isolation plays, and pick and rolls.

[Hollywood]

did the refs put you up to this? Has Gatorade or Hanes gotten to you too? How deep are your pockets? I have questions.


Isn't it obvious? David Stern obviously paid him off to try and get the heat (pun intended) off them since the Mav fans are wise to the game. The jig is up!!!!!!!!

[momo stallion]

Isn't it obvious? David Stern obviously paid him off to try and get the heat (pun intended) off them since the Mav fans are wise to the game. The jig is up!!!!!!!!


damn it! i've been a rogue operative installed on dfwstangs since 2002 all for this very moment and i've finally been made.

you havent seen the last of me!! new alias and new ip time!

[hotrod66stang]

sit back and enjoy a relatively good nba finals.
Eh. I wouldn't really agree on that. It's pretty lopsided even with the Mavs playing down to the Heat's level. Mavs let the Heat win this last game, even with bad officiating it was theirs to lose. Why do the Conference finals almost always end up better than the big show? :mad:

[Zinc_Stang]

I am not gonna bitch about the refs.There were phantom calls and blatant pushoffs on both ends.

The Mavs destroy themselves when they jump out to big leads and then go into a halfcourt game on the offensive end to try to run the clock down.It leads to shitty shots or 24 second violations.They need to keep running what got them here so far which is pushing the ball,isolation plays, and pick and rolls.
I agree with that they get the lead and change their game to slowing down and trying to run out the clock. Next thing you know the other team scores and are right back in it. I also agree that they are playing terrible this series, esp Dirk early. He and Jet need to go off from start to finish.

[Turd]

my only ref-related complaint is the bucket that they said Van Horn tipped in when the foul was called, he clearly didn't touch the ball and the basket should have counted. It never should have made come into play, but how different would the end of the game play out if Dallas had those 2 points?

[Zinc_Stang]

How different would the game have been if they didnt call a foul at the end of the game when clearly Howard stripped the ball away from Shaq as he was going up. He made those free throws too.

Or every time the Mavs got really hot on a streak only to have the refs call a phantom foul on Dallas away from the play to stop their surge.

[mikecobra95]

You Mavs fans are fucking killing me. Why does every team bitch about something when they lose? Every game in the NBA, EVERY GAME, has bad calls here and there. No Heat fans bitched on questionable calls when they lost game 1 or 2. Get the fuck over it, the series is still 2-1, Mavs will most likely win the series without any trouble.

Fact is even with a 13 point lead in the 4th and a few "No calls" you had your "Superstar" at the line to tie the game and he CHOKED. Despite all the so called problems the Mavs faced they were still in the game. They let the game slip away, not get taken from them. Man up and face the music, it's only one loss. And if you blame anyone, blame Dirk for missing a free throw for the money.

If Wade and Shaq play better than that, Mavs are in trouble, but I don't see that happening honestly.

[mustang_marc]

game 3 had a few moments, but nothing that would change the outcome of a game.
Well, you're just flat wrong. Just because they didn't call the foul on Wade doesn't mean he didn't foul. And it sure as hell would have changed the game had Wade fouled out.

And I'm not fairweather. I personally want to the see the Mavs win tonight and then cough it up in game 5 and then win game 6. As dominant as I want Dallas to be, I want them to win this on their home court, in front of their fans.

[mustang_marc]

Why do the Conference finals almost always end up better than the big show? :mad:My theory is because the teams know each other better. Like Dallas, S.A...they played 5 times this year and knew each other in and out. Same for the Suns. However, we only played the Heat twice. You develop good rivalries in your own conference and I think it's harder to win those series.

[mustang_marc]

You Mavs fans are fucking killing me. Why does every team bitch about something when they lose? Every game in the NBA, EVERY GAME, has bad calls here and there. No Heat fans bitched on questionable calls when they lost game 1 or 2. Get the fuck over it, the series is still 2-1, Mavs will most likely win the series without any trouble.
Actually, it's not every game...only the close ones...which Dallas has happed to play a LOT of in the playoffs this year. Obviously if a team gets blown out by 20, the refs had nothing to do with it - even though there probably were a few bad calls along the way. But with so much riding on the line in a 1 or 2 or 3 point game - which Dallas has played like 8 of so far this post-season - calls become more critical. I'm not worried about it because I believe the better team will win the series. But it does irk me that it's something that the whole damn world can see on TV, but the ref only 5 feet from where it happened can't. And it wasn't a ticky tac foul like some have been, but Wade clearly fouled Terry on th play everyone is talking about. You know it and I know it.

[momo stallion]

And I'm not fairweather. I personally want to the see the Mavs win tonight and then cough it up in game 5 and then win game 6. As dominant as I want Dallas to be, I want them to win this on their home court, in front of their fans.


don't worry, i already know you're not fairweather.

[mikecobra95]

Actually, it's not every game...only the close ones...which Dallas has happed to play a LOT of in the playoffs this year. Obviously if a team gets blown out by 20, the refs had nothing to do with it - even though there probably were a few bad calls along the way. But with so much riding on the line in a 1 or 2 or 3 point game - which Dallas has played like 8 of so far this post-season - calls become more critical. I'm not worried about it because I believe the better team will win the series. But it does irk me that it's something that the whole damn world can see on TV, but the ref only 5 feet from where it happened can't. And it wasn't a ticky tac foul like some have been, but Wade clearly fouled Terry on th play everyone is talking about. You know it and I know it.

Ok, step back and see it like a non biased person. Every close game there will be calls like that that don't go your way.

BUT...........

Your team choked hard core. 13 point lead in the 4th, gone. Best player on your team at the line to tie it up, CHOKE.

Why are you not addressing those?

Even after the so called horrendous no calls, why couldn't your team pull through with the game on the line instead of collapsing? Ask those questions.

I still think the Mavs take it, but hell they lost that game.......

[46Tbird]

Ok, step back and see it like a non biased person. Every close game there will be calls like that that don't go your way.

BUT...........

Your team choked hard core. 13 point lead in the 4th, gone. Best player on your team at the line to tie it up, CHOKE.

Why are you not addressing those?

Even after the so called horrendous no calls, why couldn't your team pull through with the game on the line instead of collapsing? Ask those questions.

I still think the Mavs take it, but hell they lost that game.......Uh, I think YOU'RE the one that is looking at it with bias. :confused: Are you saying that if Wade had been fouled out (let's agree that this was a blatantly obvious no-call - do you want me to find the video?) that the Heat would have come back from a 13pt deficit without him? You don't smoke crack, so I'm sure your answer is No. Van Horn didn't touch the ball, that should have been two points. So you're saying the ref calls didn't affect the outcome of this game? :confused:

Dirk shoots 90% at the line, he hit most of them through the game, it was bound to happen at some point.

But shooting 2/7 and getting outrebounded 6-2 in the last 6mins is a CLASSIC team collapse. I was fucking pissed, no doubt...

[Denny]

Mavs > NBA Refs > dog poo > Miami Heat

[Trip McNeely]

Wow you sound like Cuban. "Waaa the refs and the NBA are against me!"

[Denny]

Wow you sound like Cuban. "Waaa the refs and the NBA are against me!"
No he doesn't. Shit, even the league was admitting to the fuck-ups.

[Juiced4V]

all sports are rigged....same thing happened with Spurs and Mavs...the NBA told refs to find a way to make it go 7 games...and they did

[hotrod66stang]

First of all, the alley-oop was pure genius (although the 3 pt shot appeared to be open in the corner) and right on the money. And if not for a Herculean effort by Wade, would have sent the game to OT where Dallas has the momentum, dominates and wins. Now for all of you conspiracy theorists, imagine the ending had Dwayne Wade fouled out. It was a miracle for him to get a couple fingers on the ball and deflect it; I don't think anyone else could have done that. With no Wade repeat steps above. OT, domination, Dallas wins. Oh well, enough speculation.

My theory is because the teams know each other better. Like Dallas, S.A...they played 5 times this year and knew each other in and out. Same for the Suns. However, we only played the Heat twice. You develop good rivalries in your own conference and I think it's harder to win those series.I understand the rivalry, but both San Antonio and Dallas could easily whoop up on Miami. It seems pretty lopsided.

[DHG BULLITT]

Add game 4 to this equation, and you have a complete setup.

[momo stallion]

Add game 4 to this equation, and you have a complete setup.


yea no joke. the refs made the mavs loose by 30 points!