Mavs VS Heat Game 2

[Badass2000gt]

I say a win for the mavs. But once we go to miami then they will lose one or both.

[JMAC]

Here is the finals game schedule


Games
#1 In Dallas Winner---Dallas
#2 In Dallas
#3 In Miami
#4 In Miami
#5 In Miami
#6 In Dallas
#7 In Dallas

This is not my prediction but the way the finals is formatted.

[Whitesmoke]

If dirk and howard can pull it togeather then i will say we get it by 10-15, but there is a lot of shit they need to work on gameplay wise too. true we won but we didn't play well at all. we just got lucky and miami was even worse after the 1st.

i still say Mavs in 6

[Sergio]

I say a win for the mavs. But once we go to miami then they will lose one or both.

the schedule has changed to 2-3-2 instead of the normal 2-2-1-1-1

i think Dallas will one one in Miaimi and hopefully they can wrap it up in Game 6 here.

[Denny]

the schedule has changed to 2-3-2 instead of the normal 2-2-1-1-1

i think Dallas will one one in Miaimi and hopefully they can wrap it up in Game 6 here.
They changed it that way in hopes for a longer series... I think they may get their wish. I'm still saying Dallas, but it'll take AT LEAST 6 games. With the way they played last night, they're lucky they were playing Miami. San Antonio, Phoenix, or Detroit would have waxed them!

[momo stallion]

the finals have been 2-3-2 for a long while now

[SMOKEY]

Mav's will get their shit together for the next game, Avery will make sure of that. I see another 10+ blow-out by the Mav's, but with both teams playing better and it being a better game to watch.

[Hurley]

Mavs in five.

Shaq will retire and do pregame for TNT next year. He'll kill Charles Barkley on national television with his bare hands and immediately high five Ernie Johnson.

[Denny]

Mavs in five.

Shaq will retire and do pregame for TNT next year. He'll kill Charles Barkley on national television with his bare hands and immediately high five Ernie Johnson.
Charles barkley will bounce a basketball off Shaq's head again. LOL!!!

[Somewhere in Time]

Charles barkley will bounce a basketball off Shaq's head again. LOL!!!

I think Shaq has had a b-ball bounced off his head one to many times.

[Who Needs 8]

So, does anyone think that the best Trade in Mavs History was Walker for Terry? :D

[Hurley]

So, does anyone think that the best Trade in Mavs History was Walker for Terry? :D


Definitley the SECOND best. The first was trading the "Traylor" to the Bucks for #9 in the '98 draft, or whatever. Well, whatever trade that the Mavs pulled off to slide up in the draft to pickup the Germanator.

[momo stallion]

Definitley the SECOND best. The first was trading the "Traylor" to the Bucks for #9 in the '98 draft, or whatever. Well, whatever trade that the Mavs pulled off to slide up in the draft to pickup the Germanator.


yeah, miluakee actually drafted dirk at #9 then we traded garrity and i think your right about traylor.

[90slow50]

mavs pull it together and sweep

[Juiced4V]

Mavs 4-0....Heat gave it there best shot last night....

[Zinc_Stang]

If we win Sunday start the parade. There is no way in hell Miami wins three in a row.

[JMAC]

The bucks meltdown was the best thing that has happened to the mavs. The celtics were licking there chops at drafting dirk 10th. They ended up getting Paul Pierce.

[momo stallion]

lol @ some of you fair-weather fans and bandwagoners.

heat gave it their best shot my ass. if you want to say the mavs had a bad game, then the heat had a worse game. obviously some of you haven't watched the heat play let alone much basketball. if your only point of reference is this playoff season, then you don't know enough to comment about the mavs.

i'm a huge fan but put your brooms away, we wont sweep.

[JMAC]

lol @ some of you fair-weather fans and bandwagoners.

heat gave it their best shot my ass. if you want to say the mavs had a bad game, then the heat had a worse game. obviously some of you haven't watched the heat play let alone much basketball. if your only point of reference is this playoff season, then you don't know enough to comment about the mavs.

i'm a huge fan but put your brooms away, we wont sweep.I co-sign! Everybody keeps saying the mavs played horrible, do you think the heat played well? No sir! I still say mavs in 6!

[Zinc_Stang]

lol @ some of you fair-weather fans and bandwagoners.

heat gave it their best shot my ass. if you want to say the mavs had a bad game, then the heat had a worse game. obviously some of you haven't watched the heat play let alone much basketball. if your only point of reference is this playoff season, then you don't know enough to comment about the mavs.

i'm a huge fan but put your brooms away, we wont sweep.
I have seen the heat play in the East not the West. What was the combined record on the teams the heat played in the playoffs?

Now find out what the combined record of the teams the Mavs went through.

[Zinc_Stang]

The Heat couldnt even make the playoffs if they played in the West. What was their record against the West?

[0 GT 2]

that doesnt mean anything except the teams in the east played in a division with more competitive teams, I honestly dont think the mavs would have had 60 wins in the east, but they will win in 6

[Zinc_Stang]

that doesnt mean anything except the teams in the east played in a division with more competitive teams, I honestly dont think the mavs would have had 60 wins in the east, but they will win in 6
LMFAO! You are kidding right? The best stat I could find was when we were 40-11 on March 25. At that point we were 22-4 against the East.

[momo stallion]

the heat where 52-30 (they were the #2 seed in the east)

they wouldnt have made the playoffs?? just by records they would have beat out division champs denver. they would have beat out memphis, la clippers, la lakers, and sacrament. they would have been 2 games behind phoenix.

[Zinc_Stang]

But they played in the weakest division in the nba. The mavs wouldnt lose more than 15 games in the East. We won 60? games and we were the number 4 seed.

[momo stallion]

But they played in the weakest division in the nba. The mavs wouldnt lose more than 15 games in the East. We won 60? games and we were the number 4 seed.


the mavs were only the #4 seed cause san antonio won the southwest division. we were really the #2 team in the west.

fyi: shaq was out the first 20 games of the season i believe.

[JMAC]

Momo is not saying the heat are better than the mavs simply the heat can play alot better than they showed us yesterday. Nobody on the mavs can guard D-wade. I would like to say that about Dirk but he played like it was a regular season game.

[momo stallion]

Momo is not saying the heat are better than the mavs simply the heat can play alot better than they showed us yesterday. Nobody on the mavs can guard D-wade. I would like to say that about Dirk but he played like it was a regular season game.


you're right, i dont think anybody is better than the mavericks. its just no one is giving the heat any credit almost as if they had a cake walk to the finals.

what happened to dirk is a bit concerning. he was defended very well. he will have to adjust next game.


if anyone wants to bet on a sweep, im up for it.

[Zinc_Stang]

Ok I understand. I have the opposite view I think people are giving them way to much credit. NBA.com and everywhere else stick pick the Heat to win.

[mustang_marc]

I honestly dont think the mavs would have had 60 wins in the east, but they will win in 6
I bet they would have at least matched Detroit's record with 65 wins.

what happened to dirk is a bit concerning. he was defended very well. he will have to adjust next game.Last time Dirk had a sucky game, he came back and dropped 50 the next game. I'm not saying Dirk will drop 50 in game 2, but I'll say he'll have something like 28 pts and 8-10 rebounds. And the Mavs will win.

[JMAC]

Ok I understand. I have the opposite view I think people are giving them way to much credit. NBA.com and everywhere else stick pick the Heat to win.They're on shaqs nuts! Mavs will win in 6!

[89 drop top stang]

you people that think we're gonna sweep are retarded. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Mavs fan, but you are really underestimating the Heat and Pat Riley. Y'all forget how good of a coach he is, he can really pull a team together after a loss to regroup for the next game. I say Mavs in 6 at least.

[5.8 STANG]

you people that think we're gonna sweep are retarded. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Mavs fan, but you are really underestimating the Heat and Pat Riley. Y'all forget how good of a coach he is, he can really pull a team together after a loss to regroup for the next game. I say Mavs in 6 at least.

Agreed completely, its the same thing as when we lost game 1 in the last 2 series. This is gonna be a battle, dont get too high when you win nor too low when you lose

[grove rat]

wtf? less than an hour and a half till tip off and no posts?

GO MAVS!!!!!!!!!

btw i am at work with a 5'' black and white t.v. :(

[Zinc_Stang]

I'm here go Mavs!!! I hope they have that amazing pregame thing with the introduction of all the players.

[mustang_marc]

Less than 30 mins to tip!

[grove rat]

haha lol, shaq is getting OWND by those f/t's...

[5point0pony]

haha lol, shaq is getting OWND by those f/t's...
Hahaha On another note, Terry is doing great so far. For a smaller player, he sure does play big.

[5point0pony]

Beautiful 4-point play by Stackhouse!

[grove rat]

going into the half with a 16 point lead. stackhouse had 3 3pointers in a row!!! :cool:

[gonzoSS]

I'm at work!!!!! UPDATE!!!!

[5point0pony]

Mavs up by 16 at the half 50-34
Dirk: 12 pts 9 rebs 4 assist
JHo: 11 pts
Stack stepped up off the bench: 12 pts
Terry: 8 pts 5 assist

[gonzoSS]

Mavs up by 16 at the half 50-34
Dirk: 12 pts 9 rebs
JHo: 11 pts
Stack stepped up off the bench: 12 pts
Terry: 8 pts 5 assist


HELL YEAH!!!!!

Thats an update I like to see!!!!

[grove rat]

I'm at work!!!!! UPDATE!!!!

its a badass game so far. kicked ass in the 1st, kinda slowed down in the last of the 1st/beginning of 2nd. but we are back to kicking ass!!!

you ever use that oil david?

[SVTVenom]

50-34 Mavs at half. Man, that first 3 that Stack hit towards the end of the 1st half was an easy 2-1/2' behind the line, plus he got the foul. That catch-shoot 3 at the end of the half was SICK too. You can see the difference in this game and the last because Dallas was only up by like 2 at half in the last game and they are up 16 now with everyone playing up to par.

[Zinc_Stang]

sweep!!! Heat are looking real good.

[gonzoSS]

its a badass game so far. kicked ass in the 1st, kinda slowed down in the last of the 1st/beginning of 2nd. but we are back to kicking ass!!!

you ever use that oil david?


Actually i used it on last Sat. Thanks btw!!!!



Hope I can see some of this game.

[grove rat]

Actually i used it on last Sat. Thanks btw!!!!



Hope I can see some of this game.

no prob...

i'm here at work too, i brought a little 5'' black/white t.v. best idea i had all week :D

[mustang_marc]

Man, the 4 pt play by Stack was great, but that 3 at the end of the half was SICK! GAME OVER! Don't know how many games it'll take Dallas - but SERIES OVER! Nice even contributions by everyone tonight. Mavs playing great D. Can't ask for anything more.

[5point0pony]

Beautiful 4-point play by Stackhouse!
X2 for JHo

[gonzoSS]

no prob...

i'm here at work too, i brought a little 5'' black/white t.v. best idea i had all week :D

That's why I have DFWstangs!!!!

[Zinc_Stang]

Heat are looking awesome!!! Oh shit they play in the East, a better and more competitive division than the west. Mavs better watch out.

[JKD]

Mav's up by 19 and Riley looks like he about to go postal!

[gonzoSS]

Heat are looking awesome!!! Oh shit they play in the East, a better and more competitive division than the west. Mavs better watch out.

sure....

[Zinc_Stang]

I have never seen more bricks in my life. Memphis could beat the Heat.

[JKD]

Mav's up by 23 and Wade just got his fourth foul.

[Zinc_Stang]

Shaq's on the bench too. I think the Heat have already given in.

[JKD]

I have never seen more bricks in my life. Memphis could beat the Heat.

No shit. Shaq is 2 for 13 and gettin paid millions.

[SVTVenom]

No shit. Shaq is 2 for 13 and gettin paid millions.

Its hard even for Shaq when he is getting double teamed by Dallas. Dallas knows that Miami's offense runs through Shaq and Wade. D/T Shaq and make Wade shoot jumpers, that is the key to why Dallas is winning.

[grove rat]

mavs up by 27

*edit they just made a 3 :mad:

[ALLAN]

I hope they keep this up in the 4th.

[Zinc_Stang]

82-58 end of 3rd

[Zinc_Stang]

How the hell are people picking the Heat?

[SVTVenom]

Dallas is just beating the fuck out of Miami right now. 82-58 Mavs going into the 4th quarter. Stack is ON FIRE from the 3-point line tonight, 4-4.

[ALLAN]

Is that a record??? Four posts at 10:18...lol

[SVTVenom]

Is that a record??? Four posts at 10:18...lol

LOL! You've got me. Thats pretty cool though. :D

[Zinc_Stang]

Mavs are screwing up.....

[gonzoSS]

K just got to the casa!


86 to 68
Dallas



DAMNIT!!!! THE FUCKIN BEER IS HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

[ALLAN]

Youuuuuu know you make me want to shout!!!! :D

[SVTVenom]

Mavs win again 99-85, but that score does not show how badly Miami got beat in this game. 2-0 Mavs headin to South Beach now. BRING IT!

[grove rat]

dallas won!!!!!!!!

we got the series in tha bag :cool:

''93% of teams that start series with a 2-0 record go on to win the championship'' as per the t.v.

[SVTVenom]

dallas won!!!!!!!!

we got the series in tha bag :cool:

''93% of teams that start series with a 2-0 record go on to win the championship'' as per the t.v.

Well, that and only one team (Detroit Pistons) has ever won all 3 home games since the 2-3-2 series format has been used.

[Fox466]

They were manhandled for the most part. :cool:

Now for game three.

[gonzoSS]

Go Mavs!!!!!!!

[5.8 STANG]

Whata game, those bitches werent even competitive. GO MAVS

[planotoothfairy]

Go Mavs! Sweep 'em!

[5point0pony]

Good play from everybody really. The Mavs just completely dominated this game.
Dirk: 26 pts 16 rebs 4 assist 2 blocks
Terry: 16 pts 9 assist 2 steals
JHo: 15 pts 2 blocks
Stackhouse: 19 pts 3 assist 3 rebs
Harris: 11 pts 4 assist
Doesn't a stat line like that look awesome?

[Cartman]

lol @ some of you fair-weather fans and bandwagoners.

heat gave it their best shot my ass. if you want to say the mavs had a bad game, then the heat had a worse game. obviously some of you haven't watched the heat play let alone much basketball. if your only point of reference is this playoff season, then you don't know enough to comment about the mavs.

i'm a huge fan but put your brooms away, we wont sweep.


as I said before mavs will sweep, they can just wear down the hear with running up and down. the mavs have had one game this entire playoff that they played well, game 2 vs the spurs, for the entire game. the heat will need their best game and the mavs to be so so just to win.

[99MustangGT]

Here is the finals game schedule


Games
#1 In Dallas Winner---Dallas
#2 In Dallas Winner-- Dallas!
#3 In Miami
#4 In Miami
#5 In Miami
#6 In Dallas
#7 In Dallas

This is not my prediction but the way the finals is formatted.

Fixed!

[JMAC]

as I said before mavs will sweep, they can just wear down the hear with running up and down. the mavs have had one game this entire playoff that they played well, game 2 vs the spurs, for the entire game. the heat will need their best game and the mavs to be so so just to win.No sweep! But I change my prediction! Mavs in 5

[11sec4eyes]

Lets not get ahead of our selves, but you have to admit when you are shooting a good shot percentage, and your still getting your ass kicked, what can you do? ;) :D

[TRAXX]

Nice win by the Mavs tonight. Now time to take care of business on the road.

[89 drop top stang]

yeah, still can't see a sweep happening, and I'm thinking 5 now instead of 6. Did anyone else see a shitload of fouls called way late? I counted at least 5 in the first half, it's like they were waiting for them to miss before the blew the whistle. Makes me wonder how the fouls will be called in Miami.

[Whitesmoke]

i think after what i saw tonight i am going to have to change from mavs in 6 to Mavs in 5. still dont think we will sweep but damn. what a fuckin game. my g/f is finally starting to understand the game so now shes into it too. she also decided as of to night stackhouse is her favorite player lol. but thats not the point, the point was tonight was a beat down plain and simple. dirk and stack were lighting it up, and howard was having a good game too till he got in foul trouble. and they are starting to feel the heat. wade is starting to get bitchy and shaq pretty much gave up. it great to thnk 2 of my 3 favorite teams will win championships this year :D too bad the stars choked or it could have been 3 for 3 :(

[JMAC]

Shaq didn't give up IMO. The heat needed quick players to get themselves back in the game. Shaq is told old to run transition.

[Cartman]

No sweep! But I change my prediction! Mavs in 5


as long as the mavs run the heat can't win. and if udonis can't return they are 7 players instead of 8 and only 5 of them can score.

mavs will sweep.

[Zinc_Stang]

Good game!

[Hurley]

Shaq was held to a career low of 5 points in game 2. Now THAT says something about the Mavs coaching and hustle. Everytime Shaq touched the ball he was blanketed with defenders. Avery is outcoaching Riles right now. I bet the mysterious "bowl" in the Heat locker room is going to be holding a few pink slips after this series! :D

Like I said Mavs in 5.

[momo stallion]

im surprised. i never expected shaq to be shut down. i dont know if miami can adjust, but i still think they should be able to win 1 game at home. im kinda pissed now cause i was going to shell out money for game 6 and i may not get my chance till next year.

[SMOKEY]

Mavs win again 99-85, but that score does not show how badly Miami got beat in this game. 2-0 Mavs headin to South Beach now. BRING IT!

Agreed great game last night, and it looked like that late in the game the Mav's pretty much knew it was over and relaxed. That was the only way the heat came back some. Damn great play by the Mav's, but I don't see the heat losing two at home. Mav's still in 5!

[evil jose]

I hope the Heat can win a game or two so Dallas can win the championship here in rather than on the road in Miami (and so I can attend the last game of the season :D ). Gotta give it up to Avery and the coaching staff for what they've done this year. Dallas has overcome so many things in reaching the championship with the loss of some key players over the past 2 years. It makes you wonder if we could have gotten here sooner if Avery had been coaching the Mav's with Nash and Finley still on board.

I honestly do not think that Dallas will sweep Miami as much as I would like them to, they will step up for at least one game. Dallas did play a phenomal game of defense on the Heat IMO and it shows by how frustrated the Miami team was. Wade's technical, Shaq sitting out the 4'th Quarter and failing to talk to any media after the game, and finally the look on an injured Udonis Haslem sitting on the bench.. that was priceless.

Even with the Dallas offense playing sloppy the first half there defense kept them in until Stack caught on fire the last few minutes of the first half. Good numbers from some of the Mav's starters and Stack off the bench. Dirk 26, Howard 15, Terry 16, and Stack 19 points. On the boards, Dirk with 16 :eek: and Damp with 13. Damp is playing with a vigor after sitting on the last series. Diop had a good game as well and helped the Heat turnover the ball on a few key plays.

I may be getting ahead of myself but I hope Cuban can keep this crew together for another run at the Championship next year. Can you imagine how they will play next season if they can keep them intact?

Mav's in 6!!! :D Go Mav's!!!!

[5point0pony]

I may be getting ahead of myself but I hope Cuban can keep this crew together for another run at the Championship next year. Can you imagine how they will play next season if they can keep them intact?

Plus the new rookies, whoever they are, to do the dirty work. Can you say repeat? :D

[JMAC]

I hope the Heat can win a game or two so Dallas can win the championship here in rather than on the road in Miami (and so I can attend the last game of the season :D ). Gotta give it up to Avery and the coaching staff for what they've done this year. Dallas has overcome so many things in reaching the championship with the loss of some key players over the past 2 years. It makes you wonder if we could have gotten here sooner if Avery had been coaching the Mav's with Nash and Finley still on board.

I honestly do not think that Dallas will sweep Miami as much as I would like them to, they will step up for at least one game. Dallas did play a phenomal game of defense on the Heat IMO and it shows by how frustrated the Miami team was. Wade's technical, Shaq sitting out the 4'th Quarter and failing to talk to any media after the game, and finally the look on an injured Udonis Haslem sitting on the bench.. that was priceless.

Even with the Dallas offense playing sloppy the first half there defense kept them in until Stack caught on fire the last few minutes of the first half. Good numbers from some of the Mav's starters and Stack off the bench. Dirk 26, Howard 15, Terry 16, and Stack 19 points. On the boards, Dirk with 16 :eek: and Damp with 13. Damp is playing with a vigor after sitting on the last series. Diop had a good game as well and helped the Heat turnover the ball on a few key plays.

I may be getting ahead of myself but I hope Cuban can keep this crew together for another run at the Championship next year. Can you imagine how they will play next season if they can keep them intact?

Mav's in 6!!! :D Go Mav's!!!!I hope they stay together as well. Ben Wallace is a free agent. I hope he leaves Detroit.

[5starstanger]

That was the first Mav's game I've been to in two years. It was the best sporting event I've ever been to. 22K super fans! :D

[evil jose]

Plus the new rookies, whoever they are, to do the dirty work. Can you say repeat? :D

They can in handy when we need to do some fouling :D

I hope they stay together as well. Ben Wallace is a free agent. I hope he leaves Detroit.

I could care less about Ben Wallace coming to Dallas if that's what you are implying. As for the current Mav's, we could probably do without Van Horn even though I like him as a player. DJ, Powell, and Armstong to (and whatever that Russians name is :D ). The rest contribute to a good starting 5 and a very very deep bench.

That was the first Mav's game I've been to in two years. It was the best sporting event I've ever been to. 22K super fans! :D

Awesome Ryan! I took my nephew to Game 5 of the Suns and he went again last night with my siter to Game 2 of the Heat and they both cannot get over the energy of the crowd. I'd like to see how the Heat's home court compares to the Mav's fans.

[JMAC]

He wouldn't fit in with us. As long as he doesn't join the evil empire(Spurs) I could careless. I just wanna see Detroit go down in flames. :D

[JackFlash19]

that was a badass game. i'm going to be bold and predict a mavs sweep :cool:

[evil jose]

He wouldn't fit in with us. As long as he doesn't join the evil empire(Spurs) I could careless. I just wanna see Detroit go down in flames. :D

BTW, it was cool meeting up with you and the other guys last Saturday. Sorry I didn't hang out much but I was tired after a morning of riding with some friends.

[Da Prez]

jose, sorry i didnt respond to your text... i had my phone on the charger all weekend, and by the time i got it, it was too late...:(

[Zinc_Stang]

They were saying the Mavs arena will be one of the most hostile courts in the NBA to play at.

[Hurley]

He wouldn't fit in with us. As long as he doesn't join the evil empire(Spurs) I could careless. I just wanna see Detroit go down in flames. :D


The Spurs won't sign Big Ben they have the best big man in the game right now.

[JMAC]

I don't think so either but you never know in the NBA.

[Vertnut]

Shaq didn't give up IMO. The heat needed quick players to get themselves back in the game. Shaq is told old to run transition.
Shaq is 34 years old, for God's sake! If he had lost that 35lbs. of extra pork Riley told him to lose, he would be fine. He won't listen to anybody when it concerns his game. Free-throws? What a joke, but will he listen? Nope. He told Rick Barry he would rather never make a FT, if it meant him having to shoot underhanded. It's time he paid the piper...

*Footnote- I saw where Van Horne is making $15.7 MILLION this year! He said he would like to stay here, even if it meant a drop in pay! No shit? That's mighty white of you Keith, but I think we'll pass! :D

[Hurley]

I'd keep Van Horn as long as he provides a decent floor presence when Dirk is resting. He is a good jump shooter and plays defense, 15.7$ million is a bit much coming off the bench. Who doesn he think he is Jerry Stackhouse?!

[evil jose]

LMAO!

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/afp/was425928.ss_h.jpg
Dwyane Wade and Shaquille O'Neal grouse on the bench during Miami's Game 2 defeat on Sunday.

[SMOKEY]

Right!! Jerry is worth the coin, but ever since Keith got hurt his game has not come back to him. You could count on his good "D" and the occasional "3" but now we get nothing.

[evil jose]

jose, sorry i didnt respond to your text... i had my phone on the charger all weekend, and by the time i got it, it was too late...:(

That's cool man, wound up watching it at home with my dad and brother in law. Spent to much money over the weekend and couldn't afford to go out, wound up standing up BOOSTED :( Sorry man :(

Shaq is 34 years old, for God's sake! If he had lost that 35lbs. of extra pork Riley told him to lose, he would be fine. He won't listen to anybody when it concerns his game. Free-throws? What a joke, but will he listen? Nope. He told Rick Barry he would rather never make a FT, if it meant him having to shoot underhanded. It's time he paid the piper...

*Footnote- I saw where Van Horne is making $15.7 MILLION this year! He said he would like to stay here, even if it meant a drop in pay! No shit? That's mighty white of you Keith, but I think we'll pass! :D

They were talking about Shaq last night on the news about his free throwing and that he was arrogant and wouldn't listen to anyone about improving (or even trying) his shots. As many times as he made it to the free thow line in the first game it would have made a huge difference. And what's the deal with him passing out of a double team? Shaq used to always go strong to the hoop. What gives?

About Van Horn, I like him as a person but he's gotta step up his game. He is good in a pinch for Dirk getting some rest time on the bench but I'm wondering if he's not playing as well (for him anyway) because of the surgery on his thumb. IMO, he would have to take a big cut in order to remain on the team.

I'd keep Van Horn as long as he provides a decent floor presence when Dirk is resting. He is a good jump shooter and plays defense, 15.7$ million is a bit much coming off the bench. Who doesn he think he is Jerry Stackhouse?!

What I like about Van Horn is he can get streaky along the three point line. But he hasn't been the same (again, for him) since the surgery. His salery could be better spent keeping Terry and locking down Howard for a longer contract. I think Howard has another year left on his contract.

[JMAC]

Shaq is 34 years old, for God's sake! If he had lost that 35lbs. of extra pork Riley told him to lose, he would be fine. He won't listen to anybody when it concerns his game.34 years old and 325+. He has played in every post season his entire career. His age might not show it but he is still old anyway you slice it.

[Somewhere in Time]

34 years old and 325+. He has played in every post season his entire career. His age might not show it but he is still old anyway you slice it.

He sweats alot too! Good lord. :eek:

[Whitesmoke]

He sweats alot too! Good lord. :eek:

no shit, they need to pay someone to follow his ass with a towel so someone doesnt slip

[Zinc_Stang]

Their whole team sweats a lot. Did anyone notice how hard Wade was breathing. They are use to a playing slow paced 85 pts wins the game (East Basketball). Look at how the Heat played with 2 days rest, from here on out its every other day.

At the half of game two the Mavs looked as though they just finished practicing. Eric Dampier wasn't even sweating during the interview before the half.

[mustang_marc]

I'd keep Van Horn as long as he provides a decent floor presence when Dirk is resting. He is a good jump shooter and plays defense, 15.7$ million is a bit much coming off the bench. Who doesn he think he is Jerry Stackhouse?!Same here, I'd keep him for maybe 5-6 mil a year. He hasn't been the same since the surgery, but I strongly believe he's a reason we made it out of the S.A. series. He hit some MONSTER shots in that series.

[Hurley]

Same here, I'd keep him for maybe 5-6 mil a year. He hasn't been the same since the surgery, but I strongly believe he's a reason we made it out of the S.A. series. He hit some MONSTER shots in that series.


Not to mention he came out on the floor COLD in the playoffs to hit a few of those big shots. Coming out and playing well after sitting four months, let alone coming out in the playoffs, says alot for a player. Avery has made everyone on this team better, including Van Horn.



Still not worth 15.7$ mil per year though.....

[bucky]

Van Horns only worth is his ability to stretch defenses with his 3 point shooting.He occasionally takes it to the basket and gets fouled but that is much more rare than early in his career.Other than that, he sucks defensively and isn't a good ball handler.
Is he worth 15 million a year?Of course not but he would be worth a mid level exemption next year.