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Trip McNeely
03-21-2006, 12:02 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/21/new.orleans/index.html

****Nagin rejects limits on rebuilding in New Orleans
Residents in vulnerable areas can reconstruct

Tuesday, March 21, 2006; Posted: 5:31 a.m. EST (10:31 GMT)


Nagin is urging residents in vulnerable areas to accept buyouts.

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- All New Orleans residents whose homes were damaged or destroyed by Hurricane Katrina should be allowed to rebuild if they choose, and the city will not stand in the way of reconstruction in areas considered vulnerable to flooding in future storms, Mayor Ray Nagin announced Monday.
However, the mayor warned residents that even with repairs now being made to the city's levee system, some neighborhoods in the eastern part of the city will remain vulnerable to storm flooding for as long as two years, until more improvements can be made.

He urged residents to consider taking advantage of a buy-out program that would pay them up to $150,000 for property in those areas.

"The Army Corps of Engineers has warned me that some of our lowest-lying areas of New Orleans East and the Lower Ninth Ward will have some flooding from levees overtopping if another hurricane travels along the same path of Katrina," Nagin said.

Nagin spoke at a news conference to unveil the final recommendations of the Bring New Orleans Back Commission, an advisory group he appointed to create a blueprint for redeveloping the hurricane-ravaged city.

The mayor said he had rejected a controversial proposal for a moratorium on issuing building permits in flood-damaged neighborhoods that don't have a viable redevelopment plan, which triggered anger at recent public hearings.
"I have confidence that our citizens can intelligently decide for themselves where they want to rebuild, once presented with the facts," Nagin said. "I believe government investment should follow citizens' investment."

Nagin also said that while he supported creating new parks and open spaces to help with flood prevention, he would not "expropriate" property for that purpose. He said he would only use that power to clear blighted areas.

The suggestion by the commission that some areas of the city might not be redeveloped triggered a political firestorm among displaced New Orleans residents.

Commission members insisted they only wanted to make the reconstruction process more orderly, concentrating rebuilding in areas with access to overstretched city services. But critics complained that limiting redevelopment would discourage the city's mostly black diaspora from coming home.

Nagin, who is black, has drawn 23 opponents in the April 22 municipal election. Many of his major challengers are white, reflecting the changed demographics of the city, which was two-thirds black before Katrina struck in August.******


Hey lets rebuild a city without proper procedures thats just going to flood again, and then we can blame the govmt and Bush, and we can get all kinds of free shit again. :rolleyes:

blackjack
03-21-2006, 12:12 PM
exactly what makes him an idiot?

blackjack
03-21-2006, 12:15 PM
ohhhh i see :D

exlude
03-21-2006, 12:57 PM
While I agree that he is an idiot, I don't see anything in this post that particularly makes him an idiot. He is letting people rebuild where they want in areas already zoned as residential. The bad choices are only going to be with those that decide to return there.

Trip McNeely
03-21-2006, 01:00 PM
While I agree that he is an idiot, I don't see anything in this post that particularly makes him an idiot. He is letting people rebuild where they want in areas already zoned as residential. The bad choices are only going to be with those that decide to return there.
What I read is that govmt is trying to intervene and rebuild areas with special permits and other requirements before people just move in and build on problematic areas. In turn this will all happen all over again and the city and governor will just blame the govmt again.

exlude
03-21-2006, 01:06 PM
What I read is that govmt is trying to intervene and rebuild areas with special permits and other requirements before people just move in and build on problematic areas. In turn this will all happen all over again and the city and governor will just blame the govmt again.

I read differently: The gov't wants to cease building in certain areas that will always be at a flood risk (even after NO's reconstruction) and turn them into parks, etc, that can better handle/control flooding. Meanwhile, Nagin is encouraging residents to sell off their land under a gov't buyout.

AL P
03-21-2006, 01:37 PM
Either way you look at it, this is a fucking disaster and YES, he is an idiot. By giving people the option to take the buy out or stay in place, all he is doing is making it so that the government will own half of the lots on a block. The net result is going to be that not all of the people leave, some are going to stay and rebuild their shitty houses which will be just as vulnerable when the next storm comes rolling through. Either let everyone stay or force them all out and totally redevelop. It's an all or nothing proposition. No matter what they do I don't give a rat's ass, if people stay and they get hit again I won't give a shit, they've got their chance at a way out right now.

Trip McNeely
03-21-2006, 01:45 PM
Either way you look at it, this is a fucking disaster and YES, he is an idiot. By giving people the option to take the buy out or stay in place, all he is doing is making it so that the government will own half of the lots on a block. The net result is going to be that not all of the people leave, some are going to stay and rebuild their shitty houses which will be just as vulnerable when the next storm comes rolling through. Either let everyone stay or force them all out and totally redevelop. It's an all or nothing proposition. No matter what they do I don't give a rat's ass, if people stay and they get hit again I won't give a shit, they've got their chance at a way out right now.
Exactly. Thats how I percieve this happening.

636ryder
03-21-2006, 01:59 PM
At first I thought he was just gonna reco the take the $$$ and run option. Then he covered himself by saying you can come back if you want. I think that going back would be stupid, I mean if all these people are whining about how their life was devastated(which it was) only to potentially do it again...the true ignorance would like with the people who moved back into unsafe areas. That'd be like moving into a neighborhood that has a chemical spill under it, after u had lived there before and had health issues resulting from the chemicals before they were " contained ".

Trip McNeely
03-21-2006, 02:13 PM
That city is an engineering nightmare. I dont see how its humanly possible to rebuild and expect it to withstand the next major storm. Impossible, and impractical.

Shorty
03-21-2006, 10:06 PM
http://worldnetdaily.com/images2/willynagin.jpg

mikeb
03-21-2006, 10:19 PM
If they want to rebuild in flood prone areas - fine. Just put limits on the buyout offer so that it is only good for a period of time (and it expires; say 6-12 months from now) or it expires if a person rebuilds. I think a lot more people would pick the buyout.

Paladin
03-22-2006, 09:17 AM
If they want to rebuild in flood prone areas - fine. Just put limits on the buyout offer so that it is only good for a period of time (and it expires; say 6-12 months from now) or it expires if a person rebuilds. I think a lot more people would pick the buyout.


I agree, and then issue the permit if they choose to build again with some kind of stipulation that if you build in a flood prone area you cannot ask for governemnt assistance if it floods again. Then they can make the choice, but it won't cost taxpayers again.

Ray_Nagin
03-22-2006, 06:54 PM
Hey Black Ac
You got a problem with me?

chick2004
03-22-2006, 07:19 PM
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Ray_Nagin
03-22-2006, 07:42 PM
chick2004
Wanna know how much money I've made on those shirts?

chick2004
03-22-2006, 07:47 PM
chick2004
Wanna know how much money I've made on those shirts?
Actually, YCT at SFA made a killing off of them. :)

Ray_Nagin
03-22-2006, 08:13 PM
Actually, YCT at SFA made a killing off of them. :)
I guess I need to sue!!
Where's that damn Johnny Cochran when ya need him? :mad:

SlowLX
03-22-2006, 08:15 PM
I guess I need to sue!!
Where's that damn Johnny Cochran when ya need him? :mad:
That boy done left your ass for the promise land :p

Ray_Nagin
03-22-2006, 08:24 PM
That boy done left your ass for the promise land :p
Well HELL!
No wonder that fool hasn't beed around to shine my head! :(