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a94gtsn
03-14-2006, 09:28 PM
who can tell what are the differences between a kawasaki ninja zx-6 and ninja zx-6r? im talking bodywork, motor, the whole nine.

M.Monroe01GT
03-14-2006, 09:43 PM
who can tell what are the differences between a kawasaki ninja zx-6 and ninja zx-6r? im talking bodywork, motor, the whole nine.


The ZX 6 is a 636, but they are no longer putting 636 on the bike, just ZX 6... and the ZX 6r is just a 600...
so just has a 36cc difference... Has been proven to be a noticeable difference and improve the bike!

The handlebars sit up a little more to give it a less "sportbike" appeal, when really if u arent paying attention they look the same!

The 600 is the racing bike, opposed to the 636 which is a "luxury" bike persay!

Super Coupe
03-14-2006, 10:14 PM
The ZX 6 is a 636, but they are no longer putting 636 on the bike, just ZX 6... and the ZX 6r is just a 600...
so just has a 36cc difference... Has been proven to be a noticeable difference and improve the bike!

The handlebars sit up a little more to give it a less "sportbike" appeal, when really if u arent paying attention they look the same!

The 600 is the racing bike, opposed to the 636 which is a "luxury" bike persay!

The zx6-r is the 636 and the zx6-rr is the 600cc. Nothing "luxury" about the 636. They are pretty much identical bikes other than a few suspension parts and the cc difference.

a94gtsn
03-14-2006, 10:15 PM
how hard would it be to switch the exhaust, and bodywork from a zx-6r to a zx-6? oh yea...the year of the bike would be a 2001.

Super Coupe
03-14-2006, 11:06 PM
how hard would it be to switch the exhaust, and bodywork from a zx-6r to a zx-6? oh yea...the year of the bike would be a 2001.

Oh that changes everything then. I have no clue. :o

M.Monroe01GT
03-15-2006, 06:01 AM
The zx6-r is the 636 and the zx6-rr is the 600cc. Nothing "luxury" about the 636. They are pretty much identical bikes other than a few suspension parts and the cc difference.


Thanx for the "facts" but I do work at a Kawasaki shop and work with them all day everyday! The 636 is considered a "luxury" sportbike... and there is more then just a few suspension parts that are different!



Grab a screw driver, a welder and a donkey...... And you can make anything happen!

SHS Slugur
03-15-2006, 06:47 AM
Thanx for the "facts" but I do work at a Kawasaki shop and work with them all day everyday! The 636 is considered a "luxury" sportbike... and there is more then just a few suspension parts that are different!



Grab a screw driver, a welder and a donkey...... And you can make anything happen!

How is the 636 considered a "luxury" sportbike?

ram57ta
03-15-2006, 07:04 AM
Im kinda wondering that myself. I had a CBR600 F3 and it was considerably more comfortable than a 636...but was not even in the same ballpark in performance. The 636 is one hella fast 600 class bike...and it weighs about as much as a heavy bicycle, but I would not call it a luxury bike by any means. Id sure take one though if offered a good enough deal....its a fucking blast to ride fast on.

MattB
03-15-2006, 08:45 AM
I'm pretty-sure everybody has everything confused right now. An '01 ZX6 shares just about NOTHING with any ZX6R model, of ANY year. The ZX6 vs. ZX6R, is like comparing a Katana(GSX) 600 to a GSXR 600 from Suzuki, there are NO interchangable pieces! I think everyone in this thread is thinking about the 03+ ZX6R(636) vs ZX6RR(600 w/slipper clutch/etc). A ZX6R will share no parts with a ZX6. The ZX6 will weigh more, not make as much power, not handle as well, brake as well, etc.

NOW, to confuse everyone ever further, they have renamed the ZX6, the "ZZR 600" or something like that. This just happened a few years ago. And starting in 2005, the "ZZR 600" is a carbon copy of a 2002 ZX6R!! So right now, you can walk into a Kawasaki shop and find three "600" sportbikes. Here they are:

2006 ZZR 600: the same thing as a 2002 ZX6R, no fuel injection, etc
2006 ZX6R: The 636 that most street 600 sportbike riders will buy
2006 ZX6RR: The 600cc bike that costs more than the 636, but is purely built to homologate the 599cc motor so it's eligible for AMA Formula Extreme and other racing classes limited to 600cc. It has a slipper clutch, adjustable swingarm pivot, and not as much power as a 636. The slipper clutch is useless on the street, so it makes no sense to spend extra money to go slower and use one as a streetbike. I hope everybody understands.:)

I will say it again though, the 2001 ZX6 you are talking about, shares absolutely NOTHING with ANY ZX6R. :)

GARS04
03-15-2006, 09:11 AM
I'm pretty-sure everybody has everything confused right now. An '01 ZX6 shares just about NOTHING with any ZX6R model, of ANY year. The ZX6 vs. ZX6R, is like comparing a Katana(GSX) 600 to a GSXR 600 from Suzuki, there are NO interchangable pieces! I think everyone in this thread is thinking about the 03+ ZX6R(636) vs ZX6RR(600 w/slipper clutch/etc). A ZX6R will share no parts with a ZX6. The ZX6 will weigh more, not make as much power, not handle as well, brake as well, etc.

NOW, to confuse everyone ever further, they have renamed the ZX6, the "ZZR 600" or something like that. This just happened a few years ago. And starting in 2005, the "ZZR 600" is a carbon copy of a 2002 ZX6R!! So right now, you can walk into a Kawasaki shop and find three "600" sportbikes. Here they are:

2006 ZZR 600: the same thing as a 2002 ZX6R, no fuel injection, etc
2006 ZX6R: The 636 that most street 600 sportbike riders will buy
2006 ZX6RR: The 600cc bike that costs more than the 636, but is purely built to homologate the 599cc motor so it's eligible for AMA Formula Extreme and other racing classes limited to 600cc. It has a slipper clutch, adjustable swingarm pivot, and not as much power as a 636. The slipper clutch is useless on the street, so it makes no sense to spend extra money to go slower and use one as a streetbike. I hope everybody understands.:)

I will say it again though, the 2001 ZX6 you are talking about, shares absolutely NOTHING with ANY ZX6R. :)

That's all fine and dandy, now would you please come and get this title! :D

bucky
03-15-2006, 05:57 PM
On the 2001 model year, another comparison would be a R6 compared to a YZF600.

The 2001 ZX6R would have been Kawasakis top end 600 super-sport.The ZX6 would trace its roots back to the original Ninja 600.

I am sure there is a difference in compression,cam specs,carb size,gearing,bodywork,suspension,rim and tire sizes, etc.

Super Coupe
03-15-2006, 08:23 PM
How is the 636 considered a "luxury" sportbike?

That's what I'm saying. That is not a good word for it.

BottleRocket
03-15-2006, 10:27 PM
Thanx for the "facts" but I do work at a Kawasaki shop and work with them all day everyday! The 636 is considered a "luxury" sportbike... and there is more then just a few suspension parts that are different!



Grab a screw driver, a welder and a donkey...... And you can make anything happen!

what shop do you work at because i would prefer not visiting it.

first of the ZX6R is NOT 600cc, it is 636cc. the ZX6RR is the 600cc sportbike (actually 599cc I believe). The ZX6 is the old model supersport-class bike built in the mid 90's. and NO, the ZX6R is NOT a "luxury" sportbike. That is what the "R" denotes is a race bike. the ZZR600 is the "luxury" sportbike.

Differences between the ZX6R and ZX6RR that you were describing are obviously the displacement, and on top of that just things like higher comp. in the RR, longer wheelbase on the RR, and in previous models the 6RR had a slipper clutch but the 6R did not.

The differences between the old ZX6 and the new ZX6R are night and day.

sad thing is I ride a yamaha... :rolleyes:

a94gtsn
03-15-2006, 11:00 PM
ok...im hearing all these different stories of what a zx-6 is and what the zx-6r is. does anyone work at a kawasaki dealership and can clear this up? main thing is what it would take to put the plastics/exhaust from a zx-6r to a zx-6. again year 2001

Super Coupe
03-15-2006, 11:24 PM
ok...im hearing all these different stories of what a zx-6 is and what the zx-6r is. does anyone work at a kawasaki dealership and can clear this up? main thing is what it would take to put the plastics/exhaust from a zx-6r to a zx-6. again year 2001

I highly doubt it would be worth the trouble and I highly doubt it would work.

MattB
03-16-2006, 05:34 AM
ok...im hearing all these different stories of what a zx-6 is and what the zx-6r is. does anyone work at a kawasaki dealership and can clear this up? main thing is what it would take to put the plastics/exhaust from a zx-6r to a zx-6. again year 2001


Please read my post. It has all of the information you will need. Trying to put any year ZX6R plastics on a 2001 ZX6 will not work.

GARS04
03-16-2006, 06:56 AM
ok...im hearing all these different stories of what a zx-6 is and what the zx-6r is. does anyone work at a kawasaki dealership and can clear this up? main thing is what it would take to put the plastics/exhaust from a zx-6r to a zx-6. again year 2001

Why don't you just do a search and check it out yourself....Although it looks like Mattb either did that for you or.........has no idea what he's talking about......haha, j/k. Matt. :D

M.Monroe01GT
03-16-2006, 10:21 AM
I agree there is nothing "luxury" about the 636... But I work at a Kawasaki dealership, and I know my bikes, and that is what they say since the handlebars sit up higher.... And yes it is quicker, it is 36cc more than a 600.. I live in NC, so unless ur plan on visiting a Honda/Kawasaki shop on the east coast, I am really not worried about you visiting the shop!


But point made... Why cant the kid just look it up himself?

Super Coupe
03-16-2006, 03:32 PM
I agree there is nothing "luxury" about the 636... But I work at a Kawasaki dealership, and I know my bikes, and that is what they say since the handlebars sit up higher.... And yes it is quicker, it is 36cc more than a 600.. I live in NC, so unless ur plan on visiting a Honda/Kawasaki shop on the east coast, I am really not worried about you visiting the shop!


But point made... Why cant the kid just look it up himself?

The handle bars sit up higher eh? :o

SlowLX
03-16-2006, 04:04 PM
I agree there is nothing "luxury" about the 636... But I work at a Kawasaki dealership, and I know my bikes, and that is what they say since the handlebars sit up higher.... And yes it is quicker, it is 36cc more than a 600.. I live in NC, so unless ur plan on visiting a Honda/Kawasaki shop on the east coast, I am really not worried about you visiting the shop!


But point made... Why cant the kid just look it up himself?
I wouldnt trust a fucking thing out of jacksonville other than somethign from inkslingers. That town is nasty!!!

a94gtsn
03-16-2006, 07:29 PM
i appreciate the help. i am just now start getting into bikes so i have no idea where to even start looking for info. i have a mustang and i thought this site was about helping others with the vehicle needs. whether it be tech info? parts? vehicles themselves? or whatever the need is....anyways thanks to all that have helped me. not buying the zx-6. looking for a more sporty bike if anyone has anything for around the 3g range. again thanks for all the help....

pntbutta
03-17-2006, 12:26 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but,..............

:D (night)
zx-6r Not a 636 for this year! That didn't come till 02!SORRY 03 in the states... In the newchassis. Europe got theirs a year earlier in the old fchassis.
http://www.kawasaki.com/site/Kawasaki/Techpubs/English/spec_id/2001/sp_ZX600J2.pdf

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Pntbutta/kaw-zx6r-.jpg
sporty: lower bars, higer rear footpegs, higher compression , diff bore and stroke, More aggressive transmission ratios, along w/ numerousother internal differences, standard wet clutch(not slipper), and higher mounted exhaust for "spirited riding",
good for trackdays
good power delivery for 1st time owners, as well as expierienced riders.
cheap and easy to find used parts
not as sporty by todays standards but enough to get in trouble
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mccompare/01600/016002.motml





(and day)
zx-6 http://www.kawasaki.com/site/Kawasaki/Techpubs/English/spec_id/2001/sp_ZX600E9.pdf

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Pntbutta/kaw-zzr600-01.jpg
"luxury" compared to model above: lower footpegs and higher bars for more upright riding position.
softer suspension
lower exhaust
much more mild power delivery
less power
even better for a beginner(you'd be looking to upgrade faster)