Speedworks Z06 Untuned Dyno #'s [Archive]

RWhite

02-19-2002, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt
Car will be tunned shortly.

You mean car will be Boomed shortly!

I talked to that guy at a dyno day, I wonder what he does for a living? All he told me was he owns a bizz with his brother.

Silver BeaSSt

02-19-2002, 04:14 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RWhite

You mean car will be [b]Boomed shortly!

Why criticize this car? It sure as hell looks like you are just extremely jealous. As far as the boom part, tunning is the key. Would you be willing to make a little wager on whether it goes boom or not?

RWhite

02-19-2002, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RWhite

Car will be tunned shortly

You mean car will be [b]Boomed shortly!

Why criticize this car? It sure as hell looks like you are just extremely jealous. As far as the boom part, tunning is the key. Would you be willing to make a little wager on whether it goes boom or not?

How much ?

LT12NV-420

02-19-2002, 04:26 PM

I got 5 on it!

TAMUz06

02-19-2002, 04:34 PM

They were supposed to be doing the final tuning yesterday, did they get around to it? Jeff said they were hoping for 650 to the wheels....but he also didn't know what the CR was, he had to go back and ask... :D

Big Thumper

02-19-2002, 04:43 PM

If it's a built motor, as long as the guy tuning knows what he is doing, it should last.

Which Procharger, D1? AMS did a D1 car that put 720rwhp, so he has some power left in it.

Scott

AL P

02-19-2002, 04:47 PM

It's not a built motor. It will go boom bitch shortly....tuned or untuned, doesn't matter.

chambers

02-19-2002, 04:48 PM

Great numbers, but time will tell...

TAMUz06

02-19-2002, 05:10 PM

The saving grace for that motor is that it will probably only see above 5000 RPM about 3 times off of a dyno...for this reason, I think it won't go BOOM...

Silver BeaSSt

02-19-2002, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Big Thumper
If it's a built motor, as long as the guy tuning knows what he is doing, it should last.

Which Procharger, D1? AMS did a D1 car that put 720rwhp, so he has some power left in it.

Scott

Gonna have to raise the BS flag on that. What LS1 car from AMS makes 720?

Cmarsh93z

02-19-2002, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt

Gonna have to raise the BS flag on that. What LS1 car from AMS makes 720?

No BS Flag here. It wasn't an Ls1....an Lt1. Also, it made ~750rwhp through full exhaust, and with a small emmisons legal cam. Did I mention it was through a unlocked convertor?

As for the z06 car....sounds like a nice combo. I don't think it will last at the power, but Im sure everyone involved knows that already.

Chris

STROKD

02-19-2002, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt
Speedworks dynoed Jeff Nations Pro-charged Z06 late Saturday. With no tuning and only running it up to 5400 the car made 578/546 with 11#'s of boost. :eek: Car will be tunned shortly.

Does he want to race?:D

Silver BeaSSt

02-19-2002, 05:29 PM

I got $50 that says it will not go boom in the next 2 months

TAMUz06

02-19-2002, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt
I got $50 that says it will not go boom in the next 2 months

Let's not put a time on it, let's put a mileage factor on it. :)

Silver BeaSSt

02-19-2002, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by TAMUz28

Let's not put a time on it, let's put a mileage factor on it. :)

Now you're just being petty. The car is his daily driver. Some of these guys act as if it is gonna go boom right away. The car isn't expected to live forever, but it will last for as long as it is not abused. As was stated earlier everyone invloved knows the possiblity of failure but that is just part of the game, especially on a setup as new as this one.

Brandon-K

02-19-2002, 05:42 PM

good god :eek:

TAMUz06

02-19-2002, 05:42 PM

His Mercedes is his daily driver?

Silver BeaSSt

02-19-2002, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by TAMUz28
His Mercedes is his daily driver?

The Mercedes is his wifes car.

DON SVO

02-19-2002, 10:07 PM

so ummm, lemme get this straight: you agree that the car wont last and it will fail? thats what im getting out of it...

The car isn't expected to live forever, but it will last for as long as it is not abused.

now you might try to say something like, "hey man i said as long as it isnt abused!" whats your definition of abuse? these LS1/LS6 engines are known for taking it on the top end. they are known to be highway cars. so if this guy doesnt abuse his car *meaning he doesnt get on it* its gonna last longer. what the fuck was the point of buying the goddamn blower??? if you cant fucking use it because youve got a bug in the back of your head saying, "this shit will blow the intake off the heads if you go to redline" what did he just spend his money on? that engine with that kinda boost wil not last long. sure, its gonna last longer the more he is out of the power. but if i cannot use what the engine can put out, whats the point? is the point to flash your dyno sheet and say, "my car CAN do that, but if i do it too much itll blow up"? what a waste of money.

Silver BeaSSt

02-19-2002, 10:21 PM

After rereading my post I realized that I did not type what I was trying to say. What i meant to say was that if the car is not abused it will last forever. Jeff will drive this car hard because that is the reason he had it built. He wanted to go fast so Speedworks made it fast. In this game things can always go wrong so when you try new setups, such as this one, you have to be prepared for things to fail. He knows the rules and is prepared to step up to the plate if failure should occur.

02-19-2002, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RWhite

You mean car will be [b]Boomed shortly!

Why criticize this car? It sure as hell looks like you are just extremely jealous. As far as the boom part, tunning is the key. Would you be willing to make a little wager on whether it goes boom or not?

Sucka you can't even spell tuning!:) As far as the D-1 car making 720rwhp I was there and taped it, actually I recall 708rwhp. The car had a 305 cam in it, specs: 220/230 .510/.510 114ls. Not exactly a race car cam! No clue why he went with this cam, guess he wanted to pass emissions. A friend of mine built the engine and also wondered why he went with such a small cam. Here is the video for you doubters! Thats Job Spetter Jr on the left btw:)

http://raceonly.com/videos/Joel_708RWHP.avi

[CS]ls1haha

02-20-2002, 12:55 AM

There are only a few problems to work out on jeffs car. At first, under boost the intake inlet was inflating like a ballon. A hard plastic one was supplied with the kit but they chose not to installl it because of the looks. So they had to put that on. The car did make 578. It was driven around a little on the street and it was deemed to be a bad bitch. The first pull at Ed wrights ended with a monstrous cloud of smoke from the belt. A new belt was found at a local shop but the crank pulley and begun to loosen itself. Ed said that typically stock setups can only handle 6-7psi. So, now they need to key the crank and tell ATI that they need to make a new tensioner setup like Vortec's to replace the stock spring type tensioner.

:D

no boom bitch. everyone knows who ed wright is, or should, and that he has been tuning those turds, i mean GM products for a long time.

WhtEdge

02-20-2002, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by [CS]ls1haha

no boom bitch. everyone knows who ed wright is, or should, and that he has been tuning those turds, i mean GM products for a long time.

It is funny you say that about Ed Wright. A friend on mine just got back his computer this week from him and it runs worse than it used too. Ed was given a list of every item on the car and it is still not right. Now he wants to charge more $$$ to fix the program???????

Silver BeaSSt

02-20-2002, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Brandy

Sucka you can't even spell tuning!:) As far as the D-1 car making 720rwhp I was there and taped it, actually I recall 708rwhp. The car had a 305 cam in it, specs: 220/230 .510/.510 114ls. Not exactly a race car cam! No clue why he went with this cam, guess he wanted to pass emissions. A friend of mine built the engine and also wondered why he went with such a small cam. Here is the video for you doubters! Thats Job Spetter Jr on the left btw:)

http://raceonly.com/videos/Joel_708RWHP.avi

LOL...But my point was 700rwhp was not done on a LS1. This is the first D1 to be on a LS1. The cam that is in Jeff Nations car is very mild as well, you can hardly tell it has a cam at idle. The only thing that alerts you to something out of the odinary is the whine from the blower.

302_plus_a_few

02-20-2002, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt
LOL...But my point was 700rwhp was not done on a LS1. This is the first D1 to be on a LS1. The cam that is in Jeff Nations car is very mild as well, you can hardly tell it has a cam at idle. The only thing that alerts you to something out of the odinary is the whine from the blower. Even the whine of the blower isn't that loud. Sweet car! I hope it stays together for him.

KECHME

02-20-2002, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Silver BeaSSt

LOL...But my point was 700rwhp was not done on a LS1. This is the first D1 to be on a LS1.

I am gonna have to correct you on that statement. I finished up a D1 supercharged LS1 a week ago. the car made 553 / 501 without heads @9lbs. The heads are on the way as is a different pulley, and the bottom end was built (stock CI, stock CR) from jump. Golden west performance has built like 5 or more D1 LS1's in the last couple of months, In other words they are way ahead of every body in terms of getting D1 Ls1's on the street. Either, way Dan and Keith have done an excellent job on this car and the results speak for themselves.

bsharer

02-20-2002, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by TAMUz28
The saving grace for that motor is that it will probably only see above 5000 RPM about 3 times off of a dyno...for this reason, I think it won't go BOOM...

I think that is the most retarded thing I have ever read on this board... (no offense to you Tamu...as Im sure you were told this statement)

WHY EVEN PUT THE BLOWER ON THERE THEN?

So it can get in a magazine? How gay is that?

HobieF3

02-20-2002, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by RWhite

I wonder what he does for a living? All he told me was he owns a bizz with his brother.

Is this the guy that has the "fence" business? I remember there was some guy always at the races awhile back with bad cars other people built. Everyone asked what he did for a living. He always said he and his brother had a business. Once I heard him say he had a "fence" business, I DIED laughing, just couldn't help it.

DamonH

02-20-2002, 07:05 PM

I thought he was only using like 42lb injectors? How is he not leaning out? I've got 555cc (~55 lb) injectors on my Z now, and when it gets put back together it'll have 850cc (~85 lb) injectors. :eek: In the import world (for the most part) you can get about 1 rwhp out of each CC (so 555cc injectors are good for approximately 555rwhp without leaning out). I guess having the bigger LS1 allows you to use smaller injectors and get the same amount of power. :confused: Anyone care to help me understand? Regardless, sounds like a bad ride! I can only imagine that much power in a car that light! I'll be on the lookout when my Z gets back together. ;)

Thanks,

Silver BeaSSt

02-20-2002, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by bsharer

I think that is the most retarded thing I have ever read on this board... (no offense to you Tamu...as Im sure you were told this statement)

WHY EVEN PUT THE BLOWER ON THERE THEN?

So it can get in a magazine? How gay is that?

That is not how Jeff Nations is. He will drive the piss out of this car. He is already talking about taking it somewhere to do a top speed run.

TAMUz06

02-20-2002, 10:45 PM

Silver BeaSSt - Your car sounds good....was right behind ya as you turned onto I35 from 121 a little earlier, a little after 7pm....if I had just been in the damn Z-Oh... ;) :D

Silver BeaSSt

02-20-2002, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by TAMUz28
Silver BeaSSt - Your car sounds good....was right behind ya as you turned onto I35 from 121 a little earlier, a little after 7pm....if I had just been in the damn Z-Oh... ;) :D

LOL, thanks...it happens almost every time, when you aren't driving your car you see a potential car that you could run. What were you in?

bsharer

06-04-2002, 02:28 PM

Spraying for mosquitos yet?

Bad90lx

06-07-2002, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by DamonH
I thought he was only using like 42lb injectors? How is he not leaning out? I've got 555cc (~55 lb) injectors on my Z now, and when it gets put back together it'll have 850cc (~85 lb) injectors. :eek: In the import world (for the most part) you can get about 1 rwhp out of each CC (so 555cc injectors are good for approximately 555rwhp without leaning out). I guess having the bigger LS1 allows you to use smaller injectors and get the same amount of power. :confused: Anyone care to help me understand? Regardless, sounds like a bad ride! I can only imagine that much power in a car that light! I'll be on the lookout when my Z gets back together. ;)

Thanks,

Well for starters A motor with 4 or 6 injectors(and cylinders) making 500 rwhp will need much bigger injectors than a motor with 8 injectors/cylinders. We (domestics)get to spreed the power out over more cylinders/injectors.

LT12NV-420

06-08-2002, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by DamonH
I thought he was only using like 42lb injectors? How is he not leaning out? I've got 555cc (~55 lb) injectors on my Z now, and when it gets put back together it'll have 850cc (~85 lb) injectors. :eek: In the import world (for the most part) you can get about 1 rwhp out of each CC (so 555cc injectors are good for approximately 555rwhp without leaning out). I guess having the bigger LS1 allows you to use smaller injectors and get the same amount of power. :confused: Anyone care to help me understand? Regardless, sounds like a bad ride! I can only imagine that much power in a car that light! I'll be on the lookout when my Z gets back together. ;)

Thanks,

LS1's run ~60-65 PSI o staticf fuel pressure so that helps..

z0sense

06-10-2002, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by LT12NV-420

LS1's run ~60-65 PSI o staticf fuel pressure so that helps..

I agree....ls1's use lots more pressure in their fuel system.

Thus raising the actual number of the injector.

On an LS1 a 42lb injector should actually run in the midst of ~51lbs.

A 51lb injector on an ls1 should be good for between:

~653 Crank HP @ 80% duty cycle of injector
and
~816 Crank HP @ 100% duty cycle of injector

Of coarse there are other factors involved, but this seems to be the standard amongst the ls1 community.

Cmarsh93z

06-10-2002, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by z0sense

I agree....ls1's use lots more pressure in their fuel system.

Thus raising the actual number of the injector.

On an LS1 a 42lb injector should actually run in the midst of ~51lbs.

A 51lb injector on an ls1 should be good for between:

~653 Crank HP @ 80% duty cycle of injector
and
~816 Crank HP @ 100% duty cycle of injector

Of coarse there are other factors involved, but this seems to be the standard amongst the ls1 community.

Is someone else using Darrens account??? :confused:

bsharer

06-10-2002, 02:57 PM

How much is a new shortblock for a Procharged LS1?

93coupe

06-10-2002, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Cmarsh93z

Is someone else using Darrens account??? :confused:

Nope, he's the only one on the board who consistently uses and misspells the word "course"

TAMUz06

06-10-2002, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by 93coupe
Nope, he's the only one on the board who consistently uses and misspells the word "course"

What if he was referring to Nay Nay's hair, Arthur?

z0sense

06-10-2002, 09:37 PM

Man everyone is so perceptive to my post......

Sorry....my mistake "course"

I know some about fuel injection and other things. Just once in a while am I bold enough to speak up.....

I know one thing for sure, kinda off the subject!!!!!!

<<<< I am Waiting to hand 93 coupe his ass........

93coupe

06-10-2002, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by z0sense

<<<< I am Waiting to hand 93 coupe his ass........

Only not in a contest of athleticism, mental acuity, shit talking, western boxing, street fighting, billiards, pulling wool, or anything else that doesn't require money.

If you want to race my car you're going to be waiting a long time.

AnotherRedHead

06-12-2002, 12:28 PM

Yea, I saw the HP stores procharged monster too! 6.8s on blower and nitrous! LOL

bsharer

06-12-2002, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by AnotherRedHead
Yea, I saw the HP stores procharged monster too! 6.8s on blower and nitrous! LOL

That blue car with the ripped checker pattern on it? That thing only ran 6.8's? LMFAO!!!!!