Calling Zorro, have question.

[SVT93Style]

I have been hearing about the Ocean Floor and Jesus lateley. I haven't really heard what the deal is and I figured you would know. It migth be about the worms...but I think it is something new...I heard it on 100.7 but missed it.

[Fobra]

beats me :confused:

sounds interesting though :D

[SVT93Style]

beats me :confused:

sounds interesting though :D


You know about the worms though?

[Fobra]

You know about the worms though?

Is it scripture related?

[SVT93Style]

Is it scripture related?


I haven't researched it but, Christ refers to worms on the bottom of sea floor where mamga comes up...scientist's found worms where they said no life could be sustained...guess where...bottom of the ocean where magma was coming thru...

[TexasDevilDog]

Mark9:43-44 is the only worm I can find.

43And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

A lava vent on the ocean floor is like fire that isn't put out. :confused:

[SVT93Style]

Mark9:43-44 is the only worm I can find.



A lava vent on the ocean floor is like fire that isn't put out. :confused:


I think so, its melted rock which is burning at 1000 + oC...they found 8 ft worms there...I don't know much about it...
Jesus refers to Hell as being in the heart of the earth...its on fire...etc...

[Fobra]

I think so, its melted rock which is burning at 1000 + oC...they found 8 ft worms there...I don't know much about it...
Jesus refers to Hell as being in the heart of the earth...its on fire...etc...

8ft worms :eek:

[zorro]

Sounds to me like a preacher has gone over board (pun intended).

Texas Devil Dog is right about the reference in Mark (Actually vs. 48 is the reference, vss. 44 and 46 are not in the original as far as we can tell).

Jesus reference is to endless destruction. The word is Gehenna (translated in some versions as "hell") in Mark 9:43. Here's a little info on it:

HINNOM, VALLEY OF
a deep, narrow ravine south of Jerusalem. At the HIGH PLACES of Baal in the Valley of Hinnom, parents sacrificed their children as a burnt offering to the pagan god Molech (2 Kings 23:10). Ahaz and Manasseh, kings of Judah, were both guilty of this awful wickedness (2 Chron 28:3; 33:6). But good King Josiah destroyed the pagan altars to remove this temptation from the Hebrew people.

The prophet Jeremiah foretold that God would judge this awful abomination of human sacrifice and would cause such a destruction that "the Valley of the Son of Hinnom" would become known as "the Valley of Slaughter" (Jer 7:31-32; 19:2,6; 32:35). The place was also called "Tophet."

Apparently, the Valley of Hinnom was used as the garbage dump for the city of Jerusalem. Refuse, waste materials, and dead animals were burned here. Fires continually smoldered, and smoke from the burning debris rose day and night. Hinnom thus became a graphic symbol of woe and judgment and of the place of eternal punishment called HELL.

Translated into Greek, the Hebrew "Valley of Hinnom" becomes gehenna, which is used 12 times in the New Testament (11 times by Jesus and once by James), each time translated in the NKJV as "hell" (Matt 5:22; Mark 9:43,45,47; Luke 12:5; James 3:6).
(from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright (c)1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers)

As you can see this is not at the bottom of the sea.

Regards,

Z

[SVT93Style]

Sounds to me like a preacher has gone over board (pun intended).

Texas Devil Dog is right about the reference in Mark (Actually vs. 48 is the reference, vss. 44 and 46 are not in the original as far as we can tell).

Jesus reference is to endless destruction. The word is Gehenna (translated in some versions as "hell") in Mark 9:43. Here's a little info on it:

HINNOM, VALLEY OF
a deep, narrow ravine south of Jerusalem. At the HIGH PLACES of Baal in the Valley of Hinnom, parents sacrificed their children as a burnt offering to the pagan god Molech (2 Kings 23:10). Ahaz and Manasseh, kings of Judah, were both guilty of this awful wickedness (2 Chron 28:3; 33:6). But good King Josiah destroyed the pagan altars to remove this temptation from the Hebrew people.

The prophet Jeremiah foretold that God would judge this awful abomination of human sacrifice and would cause such a destruction that "the Valley of the Son of Hinnom" would become known as "the Valley of Slaughter" (Jer 7:31-32; 19:2,6; 32:35). The place was also called "Tophet."

Apparently, the Valley of Hinnom was used as the garbage dump for the city of Jerusalem. Refuse, waste materials, and dead animals were burned here. Fires continually smoldered, and smoke from the burning debris rose day and night. Hinnom thus became a graphic symbol of woe and judgment and of the place of eternal punishment called HELL.

Translated into Greek, the Hebrew "Valley of Hinnom" becomes gehenna, which is used 12 times in the New Testament (11 times by Jesus and once by James), each time translated in the NKJV as "hell" (Matt 5:22; Mark 9:43,45,47; Luke 12:5; James 3:6).
(from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright (c)1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers)

As you can see this is not at the bottom of the sea.

Regards,

Z


Is gehenna the same as Sheol?

[zorro]

Is gehenna the same as Sheol?

SHEOL


[SHE ole] (meaning unknown)-in Old Testament thought, the abode of the dead. Sheol is the Hebrew equivalent of the Greek Hades, which means "the unseen world."

Sheol was regarded as an underground region (Num 16:30,33; Amos 9:2), shadowy and gloomy, where disembodied souls had a conscious but dull and inactive existence (2 Sam 22:6; Eccl 9:10). The Hebrew people regarded Sheol as a place to which both the righteous and unrighteous go at death (Gen 37:35; Ps 9:17; Isa 38:10), a place where punishment is received and rewards are enjoyed. Sheol is pictured as having an insatiable appetite (Isa 5:14; Hab 2:5).

However, God is present in sheol (Ps 139:8; hell, NKJV). It is open and known to Him (Job 26:6; Prov 15:11). This suggests that in death God's people remain under His care, and the wicked never escape His judgment. Sheol gives meaning to Ps 16:10. Peter saw the fulfillment of this messianic psalm in Jesus' resurrection (Acts 2:27).
(from Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright (c)1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers)

Remember the story of the rich man and Lazurus?

Regards,

Z