My Goal

[LINCOLN BOY]

is to bulk up and look somewhat like this guy...after workingout for 12yrs i think its time to actually start weightlifting.......from my old workout plan.. workout for 3 wks and take off for 5 months sure does nohting for me...but its time .......

215lb dumbell rows
http://homepages.nyu.edu/~emw287/215.htm

[Mr. Smith]

Start Eating!!!

[LINCOLN BOY]

Start Eating!!!


i eat all the time..and everything

[blue5olsvo]

I worked out for about 2 years off and on and never really got that big. I started working out 5 days a week off weekends and blew up quick. I worked out the same muscle's 5 days a week. Every two weeks I would add 10-15 pounds to my curls bench etc.. With me having a fast metabolism, working out just three days a week did little to nothing.

Arron.

[injectedpony]

hell that is alot of weight.........but looks like he is only doing half a rep sometimes..........

[LINCOLN BOY]

my goal this yr is to bench max 400 and 300 twice. also would like to cut back on bf% and be more cut.

[5111]

my goal this yr is to bench max 400 and 300 twice. also would like to cut back on bf% and be more cut.

I'm not sure if I understand what you mean...

Are you saying that you would like to max at 400 and be able to do 300 x 2? If you can do 400 once then you should be able to do 300 about 10 times.

[The Raven]

my goal this yr is to bench max 400 and 300 twice. also would like to cut back on bf% and be more cut.

Aren't you maxing just over 300 now? If so that's a pretty lofty goal.

[LINCOLN BOY]

Aren't you maxing just over 300 now? If so that's a pretty lofty goal.

max bout 2 months ago and was @ 300, but trying to achieve another goal for 400 max. lifting a max of one rep. i think its kinda lame. thats why i said i would like to max 300 2 x's or more. i have one more week left on me bench program before remaxing. ill see where im @. i have done 265 twice but after doing other set on the bench. just making it that much harder for me to lift it twice..

[The Raven]

max bout 2 months ago and was @ 300, but trying to achieve another goal for 400 max. lifting a max of one rep. i think its kinda lame. thats why i said i would like to max 300 2 x's or more. i have one more week left on me bench program before remaxing. ill see where im @. i have done 265 twice but after doing other set on the bench. just making it that much harder for me to lift it twice..


It's good to have goals, but 100lbs in a year for a seasoned lifter is a stretch, unless you plan to squeeze. It can be done naturally, but only by the genetically gifted.

[LINCOLN BOY]

It's good to have goals, but 100lbs in a year for a seasoned lifter is a stretch, unless you plan to squeeze. It can be done naturally, but only by the genetically gifted.


you wanna place a bet on it. 400 one time max

[Da Prez]

you wanna place a bet on it. 400 one time max

if anyone knows about lifting its aaron, a 100lbs is a huge jump in one year, it can be done tho...dont be an ass and challenge bets, just work hard and see if you acomplish your goal or not...good luck

in my years of working out really hard, the most i jumped from yr to yr was about 70lbs and i once could max 515...

[LINCOLN BOY]

if anyone knows about lifting its aaron, a 100lbs is a huge jump in one year, it can be done tho...dont be an ass and challenge bets, just work hard and see if you acomplish your goal or not...good luck

in my years of working out really hard, the most i jumped from yr to yr was about 70lbs and i once could max 515...

last time i max was 300 but i could of done more but didnt. im not saying i am going to max 400 but my goal is to max 400.. :confused:

[The Raven]

you wanna place a bet on it. 400 one time max

I'm not doubting that you can eventually do it, but if you are maxing 300 now, it's unlikely you'll get there in 12 months. You CAN do it, just not in the time-frame that you are projecting.

[LINCOLN BOY]

I'm not doubting that you can eventually do it, but if you are maxing 300 now, it's unlikely you'll get there in 12 months. You CAN do it, just not in the time-frame that you are projecting.

thats just a goal...goals can be missed ask the dallas cowboy kicker..... :D

im going to max today to see where i stand

[Eric357]

Why keep maxing out all the time? Stick working around 225 and up. The max will keep going up without you checking it all the time.

[5111]

im going to max today to see where i stand
Post up with your max and how long you have been lifting. That will give us a better idea of how realistic your goal is.

After about 4 months of working out fairly regularly I maxed. 5 months later my max went up 35lbs and 5-6 months after that another 25lbs. I then had 6 more months of really intense workouts and gained another 30lbs. Since then the gains have been very slow.

If you are just starting it is fairly easy to see big gains, but if you have been going at it hard for a couple of years you probably won't see huge gains NATURALLY. Then again, everyone is different.

[BigJirish08]

are you going to do any suppliments at all? if you dont mind puttin on weight then id say go with creatine thatll help ur chances of upping your max. another good way to work on ur technique and build better explosion from off of your chest is to put on a weight that is somewhat higher than what you rep on bench, lift off and lower it down and let the weight rest on your chest and have a work out partner or do it yourself count 1 onethousand 2onethousand then UP! push up then rest back down on ur chest, do 2-3 reps and at least 2 sets of this maybe at the end of your workout and it will really give you better explosion off of the bottom. i learned this from a guy at my gym who used to powerlift competively and attends bench competitions for fun now. crazy ass reps 405 on flat bench! and 315 on incline!

[Stangin4Lyfe]

you wanna place a bet on it. 400 one time max
I'll take that bet stupidass!
:rolleyes:
As for the 215 lb rows, big deal...juice can do a lot to a man.
I can honestly say....I can do 175-180 lb db rows without a problem naturally.
Ever seen Ronnie C. do 300 lb db rows???

[D]

It can be done. I increased my max from 255-290 in a matter of 4 months when I was in the desert. If I kept up that pace my max would've been increased 105 lbs in a year.

[Stangin4Lyfe]

It can be done. I increased my max from 255-290 in a matter of 4 months when I was in the desert. If I kept up that pace my max would've been increased 105 lbs in a year.

The first gains are ALWAYS the easiest bro.
Hence why people start working out, make great gains and then quit when the gains become difficult.

[The Raven]

It can be done. I increased my max from 255-290 in a matter of 4 months when I was in the desert. If I kept up that pace my max would've been increased 105 lbs in a year.


That's the point, people rarely keep up that kind of progress. Big gains are possible, but they taper off, and plateau. Unless you've personally added 100lbs to your bench in 12 months, you've got no argument.

[D]

I'm not arguing, just saying it can be done. I know people peak, etc, but different people are capable of different things. I've personnaly increased my squat 100lbs in one year, but that's a different story.

[The Raven]

I'm not arguing, just saying it can be done. I know people peak, etc, but different people are capable of different things.

Name one person that you know personally, that has gained 100lbs on their bench in a year. If you can't, you're speaking out of your ass. I know of a single person that has seen that kind of progress, and he'll be the first to admit that he's a genetic freak.



I've personnaly increased my squat 100lbs in one year, but that's a different story.

The legs muscles are alot larger, flow more blood, and grow a bit quicker than the rest of the body. That's no comparison.

[D]

Chris Mace. He got his bench from 210 to 315 in about 5 months while we were deployed together. He's a freak though. He also lost about 40 lbs in the time we were deployed and gained about 2/3 of it back in about 4 weeks. I went to the gym with him every single day. He was taking some kind of wierd suppliment though. And knock the hostility shit off.

[The Raven]

Chris Mace. He got his bench from 210 to 315 in about 5 months while we were deployed together. He's a freak though. He also lost about 40 lbs in the time we were deployed and gained about 2/3 of it back in about 4 weeks. I went to the gym with him every single day. He was taking some kind of wierd suppliment though. And knock the hostility shit off.


200-300 isn't quite the same as 300-400, and I'd be interested to learn what this "supplement" was. With that kind of progress, I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't OTC. ...and I'm not being hostile, I'm merely pointing out your ignorance. I said that yes, it could be done, but it's not a feat that the average-to-athletic natural lifter can expect to achieve. You're talking like anyone who steps foot in a Bally's Total Fitness can walk out looking like Ronnie in a matter of months.

[LINCOLN BOY]

i have been going every week to the gym since last feb. i really got into bench in sept @ 225 max and remaxed in nov for a max of 300. i am not taking any supps @ all. i am planning on gain more wieght atleast get to 200lbs. i might be set back on reaching my goal. my shoulders are giving me problems. they feel weak/sore when liftin. last nit i was doing db presses and i actually had to drop down in weight and was doing 25 lbs and i could bearly get them up to db press postion. might have to lay off for a while. so after workout i got in the hot tub and then in the frezzing fucking cold pool. :cool:
i would like to get 400 but i know i will hit some platues

[Stangin4Lyfe]

i have been going every week to the gym since last feb. i really got into bench in sept @ 225 max and remaxed in nov for a max of 300. i am not taking any supps @ all. i am planning on gain more wieght atleast get to 200lbs. i might be set back. for bout 2-3 weeks more should have been giving me problems. they feel weak when liftin. last nit i was doing db presses and i actually had to drop down in weight and was doing 25 lbs and i could bearly get them up to db press postion. might have to lay off for a while. so after workout i got in the hot tub and then in the frezzing fucking cold pool. :cool:
i would like to get 400 but i know i will it some platues
WTF did you just say???
:confused:

[The Raven]

i might be set back. for bout 2-3 weeks more should have been giving me problems. they feel weak when liftin. last nit i was doing db presses and i actually had to drop down in weight and was doing 25 lbs and i could bearly get them up to db press postion. might have to lay off for a while.


I am assuming that you meant to type shoulders, and you definitely need to relax if they are giving you trouble. Working them out while injured will possibly make it worse, and it will take longer to heal.

[LINCOLN BOY]

WTF did you just say???
:confused:
fixed somewaht.. looking @ porn and typing is hard o well yes it is hard..... :eek:

[ruffdaddy]

What is your first language lincoln boy? And i would love to take that bet as well. I went from 215is to 325 in barely under a year. And now its tough just to keep my bench aroudn that area and its been about a year and a half. Of course im not on a max only routine...Im more into building and looks now. But i still warm up with a pyramid on bench and had i not hit a physical barrier....i would be going up at about the same rate. Once you hit that 300lb mark..especially for someone under 200lbs, It gets real tough, and without supps you will not hit 400.

And if you're wanting the looks...Max has very little to do with it. Max isn't even directly proportionate to size.

[93powerranger]

ok something is wierd about this...did you say you did 265 twice...and got up 300 for a max...it seems that you would be doing 265 atleast 4 if not more times.....maybe i misunderstood you...my max is just a tad over 300 or so....and i can get the 265 about 8 times no spot....i do weigh 195...what do u weigh in at?

[ruffdaddy]

Im not trying to shoot you down lincoln boy...I just wanted to make some money on that bet. And i think 365ish would be a great goal. And powerranger...if you can get 265 x 8 no problem and barely max over 300....then you're more of an endurance lifter. different people have different styles. I can probably only get 265 six times. But i could also get 275 six times. And probably close to that with 285. Because i have a history with powerlifting...not endurance.

[BigJirish08]

i have been going every week to the gym since last feb. i really got into bench in sept @ 225 max and remaxed in nov for a max of 300. i am not taking any supps @ all. i am planning on gain more wieght atleast get to 200lbs. i might be set back on reaching my goal. my shoulders are giving me problems. they feel weak/sore when liftin. last nit i was doing db presses and i actually had to drop down in weight and was doing 25 lbs and i could bearly get them up to db press postion. might have to lay off for a while. so after workout i got in the hot tub and then in the frezzing fucking cold pool. :cool:
i would like to get 400 but i know i will hit some platues
yeah just fuckin with the temp of ur soldier isnt gonna make it heal itll just help with any inflammation and pain, u need to relax (like said above) (which takes time). with no supps at all i think its gonna be really hard but like everyone has said its not impossible its just very impropable. but i gurantee you the explosion excersice that i described will really help you. and obviously increase ur tricep workout start uppin the weight on that, do a lot of dips. if u get to where u can do a lot get the belt and the string and have a plate hang from you while u do dips.

[93powerranger]

i had a tad italisized...i know it was suttle but it was sarcasm....forgive me ....my max is 345.....not to be a jerk or anything...just wondering about his lifts....thats all..not trying to create an online pissing contest.

[LINCOLN BOY]

ok something is wierd about this...did you say you did 265 twice...and got up 300 for a max...it seems that you would be doing 265 atleast 4 if not more times.....maybe i misunderstood you...my max is just a tad over 300 or so....and i can get the 265 about 8 times no spot....i do weigh 195...what do u weigh in at?


the reason i said i did 265 twice is becuase its part of my bench program.

275 max program that im doing...
week 1 week 2 week 3 wk 4 wk 5 wk 6 wk 7
10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135
10x150 8x150 8x170 8x185 8x200 8x210 5x175
10x170 8x170 6x185 6x200 6x215 6x225 3x210
10x185 8x185 6x200 4x215 4x235 4x240 1x235
10x200 8x200 6x215 4x235 2x250 2x260 1x260
8x215 6x235 4x250 2x265 1x275 1x280/290

if i complete each week w/out failing @ one of the reps i go on to the next max..
i have been weight liftin for bout 11 yrs on/off. i wiegh 184lbs. i know for a fact that i will hit a weight that i cant get past...im just setting a goal and see if i can get it. my first language is inglish'.

[93powerranger]

ok now it makes more sense thanks for clarifying that for everyone....i might have to try that work out.....peace.

[LINCOLN BOY]

remaxed yesterday and could not even do 290...i max after a few sets on the bench. i was pretty tickd ;) going to have to push it hader :eek:

[The Raven]

remaxed yesterday and could not even do 290...i max after a few sets on the bench. i was pretty tickd ;) going to have to push it hader :eek:


Do a couple light warm-up sets, stretch a bit, and then go for it. You should be able to put up 300 if you don't pre-fatigue.

[D]

200-300 isn't quite the same as 300-400, and I'd be interested to learn what this "supplement" was. With that kind of progress, I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't OTC. ...and I'm not being hostile, I'm merely pointing out your ignorance. I said that yes, it could be done, but it's not a feat that the average-to-athletic natural lifter can expect to achieve. You're talking like anyone who steps foot in a Bally's Total Fitness can walk out looking like Ronnie in a matter of months.

Thanks for that, pointing out my ignorance...much appreciated.
It was purchased online, which is as good as OTC. I'm not sure of the name of the suppliment, but I know it had Andro in it.

[TNorman]

is to bulk up and look somewhat like this guy...after workingout for 12yrs i think its time to actually start weightlifting.......from my old workout plan.. workout for 3 wks and take off for 5 months sure does nohting for me...but its time .......

215lb dumbell rows
http://homepages.nyu.edu/~emw287/215.htm

I was in the game for several years. When I bulked up I'd go from around 185 to 230 in a couple of months. I was using 1-AD which is illegal now. Whenever I would cut back down I'd be around 185-190 but my body fat % would dive. I loved the bulking cycles because it got a lot of respect at the gym and the pumps were unreal. I didn't worry about maximum effort lifts. I needed reps to get big. It takes a lot of work and a lot of guts to get big. You can't just focus on the workout. You have to eat...eat...eat... and sleep...sleep...sleep... Now I just workout for fitness and run. My body likes this much better, but my ego calls me a pussy every now and then. Bulking up is very hard on your body. Especially your heart and joints. Good luck.

[TNorman]

the reason i said i did 265 twice is becuase its part of my bench program.

275 max program that im doing...
week 1 week 2 week 3 wk 4 wk 5 wk 6 wk 7
10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135 10x135
10x150 8x150 8x170 8x185 8x200 8x210 5x175
10x170 8x170 6x185 6x200 6x215 6x225 3x210
10x185 8x185 6x200 4x215 4x235 4x240 1x235
10x200 8x200 6x215 4x235 2x250 2x260 1x260
8x215 6x235 4x250 2x265 1x275 1x280/290

if i complete each week w/out failing @ one of the reps i go on to the next max..
i have been weight liftin for bout 11 yrs on/off. i wiegh 184lbs. i know for a fact that i will hit a weight that i cant get past...im just setting a goal and see if i can get it. my first language is inglish'.

That's German volume training. Not 1RM training. Too many sets. For max effort you need less volume and more weight. Do a search on the internet for MAX OT training. If you want to lift heavy this is the way to do it, and don't pyramid the weight. Get loose and get on it...

[LINCOLN BOY]

That's German volume training. Not 1RM training. Too many sets. For max effort you need less volume and more weight. Do a search on the internet for MAX OT training. If you want to lift heavy this is the way to do it, and don't pyramid the weight. Get loose and get on it...


This is more for strength training