Opinions on Da Vinci Code

[sliverstang]

For those who know about the book what do you think?

[chas01cobra]

For those who know about the book what do you think?


Very entertaining, but beyond that I don't buy it.

[ceyko]

For those who know about the book what do you think?

I liked the story, but did not care to fully investigate every darned thing in it. Heck, I can find all the hands in the last supper pic...but I do see the "V". Whoopty.

[Shaggin Wagon]

I like Mona Lisa

[justinsn95]

can someone give me the short version? what is the divinci code? other than a book.i mean, what is it all about?

[636ryder]

From what i gather it's a bunch of thinly stringed together facts that are filled in w/ a lot of possibilites of what happened. Possibilites being fiction. It covers a pretty big timespan as well.

[Mach1Marauder]

For those who know about the book what do you think?
It's a book of FICTION!

[636ryder]

It's a book of FICTION!

wow...nice thoughts on that one. :D

[Unseen]

It was a hell of a good read. Hard to put down.

[Mach1Marauder]

wow...nice thoughts on that one. :D
There are some that take or act as if the book is a FACTUAL event. :rolleyes:

[ScottEvil]

It's a book of FICTION!


just like the bible?

[Neiladin]

just like the bible?
haha.

[8mpg]

just like the bible?

LOL...that should start a little fire

I havent read the book but I plan on seeing the movie when it comes out. I have questioned the whole "God" thing versus evolution and I really believe in evolution. There are too many questions in the story of the bible and "God"

[RedLilPony]

It was a hell of a good read. Hard to put down.

Read Angels and Demons! MUCH better, IMO. It is also by Dan Brown. His other two novels (Deception Point and Digital Fortress) are OK at best.

As stated above, I think Dan Brown writes pretty good fiction. All the upset Bible beaters need to get the fuck over it, it's just a fiction book.

[8mpg]

Read Angels and Demons! MUCH better, IMO. It is also by Dan Brown. His other two novels (Deception Point and Digital Fortress) are OK at best.

As stated above, I think Dan Brown writes pretty good fiction. All the upset Bible beaters need to get the fuck over it, it's just a fiction book.


or is it???

[Mach1Marauder]

just like the bible?
How do YOU know it's fiction? Are you saying there are no facts in the Bible? :confused: :confused: :D

[Sgt Beavis]

How do YOU know it's fiction? Are you saying there are no facts in the Bible? :confused: :confused: :D

Poor argument. The Da Vinci Code has a lot of proven facts in it to. The author simply made those facts into his story, which is a fantasy.

The Bible is a book of history and theology. Some of that history has been altered (as happens in many history books) and much was left out when the early Catholic church assembled the Bible. For instance, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that the story of Noah was taken and latered from Babalonian text. The story still appears to be true, but somewhat embellished in the Bible. That doesn't take away from the value of the story though. Much worse, however, is how the church had several books distroyed (the Gnostic Scriptures). Many of those books dealt with Mary of Magdaline and her importance to Christ's work. She was one of Jesus' favorite apolstles, yet the Catholic church demoted her to being nothing more than a whore. The only copy of those books was rediscovered back in 1945.

As for the Da Vinci Code itself, there was a great show on the Discovery channel that did a pretty good number in debunking it as an authentic search for the Holy Grail (a decendent of Christ) Many parts of that book take facts (such as the Knights of Templar) and distort them to fit the story. The final nail in the coffin, however, is that it has been shown that the Priory of Sion is an organization that was formed as a practical joke back in the 70's. The so-called head of the Priory of Sion has admitted as much.

[talisman]

How do YOU know it's fiction? Are you saying there are no facts in the Bible? :confused: :confused: :D




How do YOU know that the DaVinci Code is fiction? Are you saying there are no facts in it?

Hell, I read a Stephen King book where they were talking about a flying Coke machine. Obviously, it's true, since Coke machines aren't fictional.

[Mach1Marauder]

How do YOU know that the DaVinci Code is fiction? Are you saying there are no facts in it?

Hell, I read a Stephen King book where they were talking about a flying Coke machine. Obviously, it's true, since Coke machines aren't fictional.
Yeah..................modern author! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bad arguement Tali! :p :D

[talisman]

Yeah..................modern author! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Bad arguement Tali! :p :D



It's the exact same arguement you just used. :confused:

[Yale]

worst book I've read in the past 3 years, easily. it just addressed the imperfections of the catholic church, without really doing so, never presented anything really questioning the structure of modern christianity, and had a plot about as compelling as a cool puddle of dysentery. it was about as good as "National Treasure, the audio book, as read by Fran Drescher."seriously, it was a terrible book.

[Casper]

Brown has a very engaging style and he reads easily. On the other hand, the DV Code has all these interesting little subplots that go nowhere and the whole thing is way too predictable. I give it an 8 out of 10 for style and a 4 out of 10 for plot.

[Casper]

As for the Da Vinci Code itself, there was a great show on the Discovery channel that did a pretty good number in debunking it as an authentic search for the Holy Grail (a decendent of Christ) Many parts of that book take facts (such as the Knights of Templar) and distort them to fit the story. The final nail in the coffin, however, is that it has been shown that the Priory of Sion is an organization that was formed as a practical joke back in the 70's. The so-called head of the Priory of Sion has admitted as much.

So they did a great job of debunking a fictional story. Big woop. Why don't they address the question of how Picard can travel at warp speed but he's still bald? It would be about as worthwhile.

[D]

The movie FUCKING SUCKED!!! :D

[Whitebread]

As far as the movie goes, I made it untill the bare-assed man started flogging himself. Clicked it off and went to sleep...

[ScottEvil]

nice job bringing a thread up from 2005 :rolleyes:

[DamonH]

Book = Good
Movie = ok

I think I'd have been pretty lost in the movie if I hadn't read the book. They also left quite a bit out, but I guess that's par for the course when they make movies out of books.

[302_plus_a_few]

How do YOU know it's fiction? Are you saying there are no facts in the Bible? :confused: :confused: :DNobody knows. I'll choose to err on the side of science than completely believe a book written a few thousand years ago. Doesn't the bible say that nothing existed until 6000 years ago? What are you to think about all of those 60 million year old dinosaur fossils?

To me the bible is just as much fiction as everyone says the Da Vinci Code is.

I haven't read the book but I liked the movie. Seems more believable that Jesus was just a normal man that married just like everyone else. He may have been a very good man but a man and no more.

[ls1eater]

feel asleep it was so boring to me :cool:

[Whitebread]

What are you to think about all of those 60 million year old dinosaur fossils?

How does man KNOW they are 60 million years old? Man created a system for dating artifacts. How can we accurately determine a standard without arbitrarily "making something up"?

[talisman]

How does man KNOW they are 60 million years old? Man created a system for dating artifacts. How can we accurately determine a standard without arbitrarily "making something up"?



The same mankind that came up with a system for explaining the world around him that he didn't understand 2000 years ago? There is a magic ball of fire in the sky! Obviously a bigger and better man than me must have put it there for me. I'll call him god! Talk about arbitrarily making something up.

[Whitebread]

The same mankind that came up with a system for explaining the world around him that he didn't understand 2000 years ago? There is a magic ball of fire in the sky! Obviously a bigger and better man than me must have put it there for me. I'll call him god! Talk about arbitrarily making something up.

I always thought the bible was a collection of records taken from followers of Jesus, and not "fabricated" by random men. :confused:

I personally have no right to preach or be on ANY kind of soapbox...I can be a non-christlike piece of work sometimes, lol! Matter of fact, most of the time I am..

[DarkWolf]

I always thought the bible was a collection of records taken from followers of Jesus, and not "fabricated" by random men. :confused:

He was a little off on the millenium, but the point was in the old testament, genesis story, etc.

[BP]

So is Dianetics fiction or non-fiction? :D

[Phillystang]

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[564826]

Da Vinci Code good book, the rest is all a personal believe.

[Casper]

How do YOU know it's fiction? Are you saying there are no facts in the Bible? :confused: :confused: :D

There are facts in Brown's book too, does that make it non-fiction?

[Casper]

Nobody knows. I'll choose to err on the side of science than completely believe a book written a few thousand years ago. Doesn't the bible say that nothing existed until 6000 years ago? What are you to think about all of those 60 million year old dinosaur fossils?

To me the bible is just as much fiction as everyone says the Da Vinci Code is.

I haven't read the book but I liked the movie. Seems more believable that Jesus was just a normal man that married just like everyone else. He may have been a very good man but a man and no more.

Even more believable that Jesus never existed.

[Casper]

So is Dianetics fiction or non-fiction? :D

Copyrighted, that's for sure.

[FSON]

So is Dianetics fiction or non-fiction? :D

I don't know. Are you Dianetic? Have you been audited? By fiction, do you mean your own story is your reality?


Has anyone mentioned Holy Blood, Holy Grail from 20 years ago.

[Casper]

I have the sequel to that.

After much research I decided that Lawrence is a loon.

But he is a far more interesting writer than Dan Brown.

[FSON]

I have the sequel to that.

After much research I decided that Lawrence is a loon.

But he is a far more interesting writer than Dan Brown.

Any evidence to back that up?

[Casper]

Any evidence to back that up?

His linguistic analysis is flawed, his "new chronology" is silly and is only created so as to make his timeline fit archeological evidence (which it still doesn't), and then he goes into the same old mode about the egyptians having magical powers and scientific knowledge beyond anything we today can imagine.

If you like Velikovsky then Lawrence should be rioght up your alley. In fact he attempts to merge Vellikovsky and Freud, which should tell you something about his capacity for over-assumption.

I have a meeting, I'll see if I can find some good net pages. If you can find his current page, check out his views on Atlantis and colloidal Silver. That should be a good tip-off.

Although some of his book does touch on some inconvenient history for the catholic church.

[FSON]

His linguistic analysis is flawed, his "new chronology" is silly and is only created so as to make his timeline fit archeological evidence (which it still doesn't), and then he goes into the same old mode about the egyptians having magical powers and scientific knowledge beyond anything we today can imagine.

If you like Velikovsky then Lawrence should be rioght up your alley. In fact he attempts to merge Vellikovsky and Freud, which should tell you something about his capacity for over-assumption.

I have a meeting, I'll see if I can find some good net pages. If you can find his current page, check out his views on Atlantis and colloidal Silver. That should be a good tip-off.

Although some of his book does touch on some inconvenient history for the catholic church.

I'm not interested in Freud and know nothing about Velikovsky apart from Wikipedia.
I would like to know how linguistic analysis is flawed and what is your linguistic datum.
There is a possibility that the technology that was discussed was not material.

[Casper]

I'm not interested in Freud and know nothing about Velikovsky apart from Wikipedia.
I would like to know how linguistic analysis is flawed and what is your linguistic datum.
There is a possibility that the technology that was discussed was not material.

Much of it all leads back to the question "Was there really an Exodus?". The evidence says no, especially the linguistic evidence. Canaanite culture and language is an offshoot of Sumerian, with almost no Egyptian influences; Egyptian language and culture is entirely African, with almost no Sumerian/Canaanite influence. Other than a few coincidental place names, the root words and proper nouns have no connection. Lawrence tries to show a definite connection, and has to rearrange Egyptian history arbitrarily just to make it fit. Velikovsky assumed much of the same thing when he proposed that the pharaoh Akhenaten was actually the historical Moses of the bible. Lawrence takes this and runs with it, and makes a case by assuming that any word or name that sounds even remotely the same as another must have the same root. It just isn't true. What, for instance, is the connection between jeweler and Jew? Between Niger and Negro?

If this isn't enough, he completely ignores actual criticism and secular study of early Christianity and assumes an entire first century conspiracy to explain what is better recognized as second centruy and later pseudoepigraphy, including interpolation and redaction through history.

But like I said, he writes really well. I stayed transfixed for a few days while reading it even though I knew some parts were bogus. His references to a marriage at canna being redacted into a humble display of repentence instead of a later interpolation is one example. Another is his reliance on late passages from Mark, a book that even with corrections is obviously non-jewish in authorship.

If I still have it I will give it to you to read. I found it at B&N on clearance and thought it might be worth a couple dollars.

[Casper]

Here is a great criticism of Brown's book and more importantly the work on which it is based:

http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/dvhoax.htm

Those unfamiliar with Robert Price should be aware that he is an extremely well respected biblical scholar, and ironically in this case, to the joy of fundamentalists, he could be considered almost entirely secular. An excellent example of a non-believer who dismisses Da Vinci Code as fluff, in case you are ever challenged to provide such an example.

[FSON]

I have not read the book. My segue into this subject is my reading 15+ years ago of Holy Blood, Holy Grail, I am assuming it is the same subject. Rome making and altering a body of knowledge and transforming a sun god into a "christ". Books of knowledge "gnostic" deleted from a manual to better control a people by a secular government. Egyptian knowledge of the ability to alter reality by mind "technology". Essene knowledge and cultural center moved to the south of France and later put under force of extermination by direct command of the Pope. Groups established under direct and indirect influence of the earlier Essenes: Knights Templar, others: Rosicrucians, Masons...

[Casper]

Much of that is difficult to argue, as long as you don't actually try and argue for the existence of a historical Jesus. As for the egyptian hocus pocus, that is definitely woo nonsense and an insult to the greatness that was the Nile civilization. They didn't need magic to do great things.

[exlude]

I didn't even know the Da Vinci Code was taken literally by anyone...

[Casper]

Only by the true believers (tm)

[FSON]

Much of that is difficult to argue, as long as you don't actually try and argue for the existence of a historical Jesus. As for the egyptian hocus pocus, that is definitely woo nonsense and an insult to the greatness that was the Nile civilization. They didn't need magic to do great things.

When you say WOO, do you mean the Chinese shamanistic woo that is akin to the Ancient Egyptian mystical "technology"?

[Casper]

I mean woo as in the aliens built the pyramids and then went to sleep for 4000 years in Atlantis to hide from the CIA. Yeah, sounds like you get my point.

[notchnate]

tom hanks was the only good thing about the movie haha :)