First LS1 in the 6's

[Lason]

Was reading the latest issue of Hot Rod and ran across Kurt Urban's 1900hp LS1. Anyone else read up on this thing? Basically its a 352ci iron block'd LS1 with twin 80mm turbo's in Mike Morans camaro chassis (casper) and was the first LS1 into the 6's. Some cool things I noticed about the car were that they run a BOV in the upper radiator hose because the heads lift every run and boost leaks into the cooling system and the BOV helps keep the radiator from exploding, this thing has 1/2" diameter pushrods and uses nitrous to get the twins to spool up with such a small displacement. The last run it ran a 6.86@205mph.

Not bad for a LS1 huh?

[SVTVenom]

Was reading the latest issue of Hot Rod and ran across Kurt Urban's 1900hp LS1. Anyone else read up on this thing? Basically its a 352ci iron block'd LS1 with twin 80mm turbo's in Mike Morans camaro chassis (casper) and was the first LS1 into the 6's. Some cool things I noticed about the car were that they run a BOV in the upper radiator hose because the heads lift every run and boost leaks into the cooling system and the BOV helps keep the radiator from exploding, this thing has 1/2" diameter pushrods and uses nitrous to get the twins to spool up with such a small displacement. The last run it ran a 6.86@205mph.

Not bad for a LS1 huh?

I takes that much effort to get an LS1 into the 6's? Yikes.

[Lason]

I takes that much effort to get an LS1 into the 6's? Yikes.


1900hp :confused:

When is the last time you had a 1900hp motor?

[Magnimike1]

6's in the quarter...

[Lason]

6's in the quarter...

Sorry I guess everyone would have figured it out when I said 205mph :D

[AL P]

LMAO at the blow off valve.

[89 drop top stang]

I thought LS1's where aluminum blocks, wouldn't it being an iron block change that? (I don't know too much about chevy's)

[Boss Hogg]

1900hp :confused:

When is the last time you had a 1900hp motor?
Everytime he turns his dynosheet upsidedown.

[Blue 98 Ram Air]

werd iron would mean not LS1, maybe LS1 body but ls1 differred from the LT1 because it was and alluminum block just my .02

[AL P]

Trucks had iron LS1 blocks that are stronger than the aluminum blocks.

[Lason]

"the block is a filled cast iron GM 6.0l truck block"

[JMoore]

I really don't care!! You have more than one small block Fords, and Chevys running that fast with twin turbos. :rolleyes: Not really rocket science, ( more money= faster)
. Pro 5.0 has a few turbos and hell billy glidden has ran a few 6's on nitrous :eek: !!! So I guess for a turd "LS1" to hold up to that it is pretty amazing!!! :rolleyes: :p :eek:

[JMoore]

Well, gee not really a LS1 now is it!!!! And the shit is filled???? HUMMM a pure race car going 6's in the quarter??? I guess he is about 10-15 years to late to say he is the first one.

[BP]

http://www.w2wpowertrain.com/t-Casper-2.aspx

[Boss Hogg]

Might as well delete this thread. That truck motor has nothing in common with a LS1 motor. :rolleyes:

[AL P]

Might as well delete this thread. That truck motor has nothing in common with a LS1 motor. :rolleyes:

Nothing at all. Might as well be a Chrysler.

[BP]

Well, gee not really a LS1 now is it!!!! And the shit is filled???? HUMMM a pure race car going 6's in the quarter??? I guess he is about 10-15 years to late to say he is the first one.

It's a production engine, and not even the baddest production engine GM offers. I'd love to see them do something with an LS7 setup in a drag car. Hell I bet they could get high 8s naturally aspirated with a little work.

Whats the record for a mod motor Mustang? I know Granatelli went 7.17@196 several years ago. Just comparing apples to apples:)

[momo stallion]

cool, but do they have to tear it down every pass since it lifts the heads?

[momo stallion]

It's a production engine, and not even the baddest production engine GM offers. I'd love to see them do something with an LS7 setup in a drag car. Hell I bet they could get high 8s naturally aspirated with a little work.

Whats the record for a mod motor Mustang? I know Granatelli went 7.17@196 several years ago. Just comparing apples to apples:)


john mihovetz's best is like 6.60-6.70 at 210ish
not sure if anyone is faster

[32VfromHell]

It's a production engine, and not even the baddest production engine GM offers. I'd love to see them do something with an LS7 setup in a drag car. Hell I bet they could get high 8s naturally aspirated with a little work.

Whats the record for a mod motor Mustang? I know Granatelli went 7.17@196 several years ago. Just comparing apples to apples:)


there is a tube framed cougar with a mod motor going mid 6s i want to say.


One of several reasons why LS1s havent gone as quick is they dont have quite the support system of a Fun Ford, or Mod Motor classes. From what i know, its just people and shops out there doing their own thing, no regulation body has been successful at organizing and promoting LS1 racing like Ford has done. DavidZ......Boss Hoss over here might be able to give more information on the state of LS1 sanctioning bodies better than i can.

[Lason]

cool, but do they have to tear it down every pass since it lifts the heads?

LOL, no actually they said they use copper gaskets and it re-seals itself when the motor settles. Kinda weird KNOWING your going to lifts the heads every pass and even run a BOV on your radiator hose to help compensate.

Well, gee not really a LS1 now is it!!!! And the shit is filled???? HUMMM a pure race car going 6's in the quarter??? I guess he is about 10-15 years to late to say he is the first one.

No one said he was the first to go 6's in the 1/4, just the first LS1 to do it. Also there are plenty of guys on the street running filled blocks, that is ANYTHING but new technology.

I really don't care!! You have more than one small block Fords, and Chevys running that fast with twin turbos. Not really rocket science, ( more money= faster)
. Pro 5.0 has a few turbos and hell billy glidden has ran a few 6's on nitrous !!! So I guess for a turd "LS1" to hold up to that it is pretty amazing!!!

I didnt realize pro 5.0 cars are running production blocks :rolleyes: Once again, this thread is not about Ford vs. Chevy (we all know LS1's rule all ;)) its about the first LSX in the 6's.

[momo stallion]

LOL, no actually they said they use copper gaskets and it re-seals itself when the motor settles. Kinda weird KNOWING your going to lifts the heads every pass and even run a BOV on your radiator hose to help compensate.

thats f-n crazy! it doesnt spill anything while its doing that?

[Lason]

thats f-n crazy! it doesnt spill anything while its doing that?

No, from the look of the pic in the mag they have a hose attached to the BOV and Im sure it runs to a container else where on the car. They said despite that they usually "bulge" the radiator. I think they said they see 47psi in the cooling system when the heads lift :eek:

[momo stallion]

No, from the look of the pic in the mag they have a hose attached to the BOV and Im sure it runs to a container else where on the car. They said despite that they usually "bulge" the radiator. I think they said they see 47psi in the cooling system when the heads lift :eek:


good to know they have the same problem as modulars with head lift at high boost. whats the weight on the car?

[Shorty]

I'm closed minded!!!

[Lason]

good to know they have the same problem as modulars with head lift at high boost. whats the weight on the car?

Dunno off the top of my head, left the mag at work but Ill tell ya tomorrow. I wanna say 2,9xx

[JMoore]

You are the one that said ("THE FIRST LS1 IN THE 6'S) retard!!! :p I never said that Pro 5.0 or any other ( RACE ONLY Car ) runs a production block !!! I never said that it was a Ford vs Chevy thing moron. If you can read I said Ford and Chevy's have been there and done that :rolleyes: !!!! And I case you are as stupid as you sound a 6.0 Liter IS NOT A LS1!!!!! :eek: !! Please don't cry it is ok. I understand it sucks to own a LS1 no one likes you shit breaks all the time but atleast you know you can only go up from the bottom of the shit stick!!!! :D

[Relinquished]

the block is called LY6 so it is not a ls1 just has ls1 heads

[JMoore]

Well, Thank you!! :D Everyone with a brain knows that. ( Not Asson, no no I mean Lason) :D
I am sure with age will come thought process for him!! :o

[Lason]

You are the one that said ("THE FIRST LS1 IN THE 6'S) retard!!! :p I never said that Pro 5.0 or any other ( RACE ONLY Car ) runs a production block !!! I never said that it was a Ford vs Chevy thing moron. If you can read I said Ford and Chevy's have been there and done that :rolleyes: !!!! And I case you are as stupid as you sound a 6.0 Liter IS NOT A LS1!!!!! :eek: !! Please don't cry it is ok. I understand it sucks to own a LS1 no one likes you shit breaks all the time but atleast you know you can only go up from the bottom of the shit stick!!!! :D

Im not going to argue with your pre-adolescent ass but two things. First, you brought Fords into the deal and I told you this had NOTHING to do with fords, just the first LS1 into the 6's. Second I dont own a LS1, where did you get that info?

the block is called LY6 so it is not a ls1 just has ls1 heads

Just quoting the article I read and other than the material what is difference in a LS1 and 6.0l block because last I heard any and all LS1 parts bolt right in except the pistons. :confused: How about you get on LS1tech, LS1, or LS2.com and tell them to stop calling them LSX motors and see what response you get.

[Relinquished]

LY6 is what the 07 tahoe is going to have in it
an dont have the sealing headaches as the lsx

[JMoore]

You ASSHOLE( ( Lason) said "First LS1 in The 6's) Dumb Dick!!!Second I know you didn't say anything about Fords :eek: !! But if you are on a Ford site what do you expect?????????? I figured you owned a turd LS1 becaue you sound like an ASS :p !!!! You still are missing the point you (pre-adolescent ass)!!! IT IS NOT AN LS1 YOU BUTT FUCKING MORON!!!!!!! There maybe that got your brain to wakeup!? I am sure you are about 14 with know clue about what you are reading & you only look for the girls in the magazine so you can get off!!!

[Lason]

LY6 is what the 07 tahoe is going to have in it
an dont have the sealing headaches as the lsx

well then he isnt running a LY6 because 6.0l iron blocks have been around since the late 90's. They came out in trucks at around the same time LS1's came out in cars. All I know is that everyone who builds LSX's consider the 6.0l block to be a LSx motor since it accepts all the parts an LS1 does.

[Relinquished]

You ASSHOLE( ( Lason) said "First LS1 in The 6's) Dumb Dick!!!Second I know you didn't say anything about Fords :eek: !! But if you are on a Ford site what do you expect?????????? I figured you owned a turd LS1 becaue you sound like an ASS :p !!!! You still are missing the point you (pre-adolescent ass)!!! IT IS NOT AN LS1 YOU BUTT FUCKING MORON!!!!!!! There maybe that got your brain to wakeup!? I am sure you are about 14 with know clue about what you are reading & you only look for the girls in the magazine so you can get off!!!when you quote some one click the quote not the reply so that some one knows who you are talking to



ps:why dont you just cry about it trick

[Lason]

You ASSHOLE( ( Lason) said "First LS1 in The 6's) Dumb Dick!!!Second I know you didn't say anything about Fords :eek: !! But if you are on a Ford site what do you expect?????????? I figured you owned a turd LS1 becaue you sound like an ASS :p !!!! You still are missing the point you (pre-adolescent ass)!!! IT IS NOT AN LS1 YOU BUTT FUCKING MORON!!!!!!! There maybe that got your brain to wakeup!? I am sure you are about 14 with know clue about what you are reading & you only look for the girls in the magazine so you can get off!!!

Nevermind, you cant be Lethal, because as retarded as Lethal was he didnt argue himself in circles.

[stevinwayne]

when you quote some one click the quote not the reply so that some one knows who you are talking to



ps:why dont you just cry about it trick


i can't believe you're bitching... most people on this board don't know what you are talking about 3/4 of the time. ;)

[Boss Hogg]

DavidZ......Boss Hoss over here might be able to give more information on the state of LS1 sanctioning bodies better than i can.
Not really. I never cared about that stuff.

[Boss Hogg]

You ASSHOLE( ( Lason) said "First LS1 in The 6's) Dumb Dick!!!Second I know you didn't say anything about Fords :eek: !! But if you are on a Ford site what do you expect?????????? I figured you owned a turd LS1 becaue you sound like an ASS :p !!!! You still are missing the point you (pre-adolescent ass)!!! IT IS NOT AN LS1 YOU BUTT FUCKING MORON!!!!!!! There maybe that got your brain to wakeup!? I am sure you are about 14 with know clue about what you are reading & you only look for the girls in the magazine so you can get off!!!
You sound like a genius. Did you graduate from Harvard or Yale?

[SUX2BU]

Its not "technically" an LS1. it is in the LS1 familly (Gen III small block).
Theres the
5.7 aluminum LS1
4.8/5.3 (same block bigger crank) iron block L??
6.0 iron block LQ4/LQ9 (same block and crank just diff compression pistons)
they all use all the exact same parts except pistons.

[BP]

Does Mihovets run a production block? Granatelli did back then so thats why I used him as a reference.

[302_plus_a_few]

WHO CARES???? :rolleyes:

And LMAO a the BOV on the radiator hose. You gotta love a particular motor design (no matter how flawed) to go through that much BS to accomplish something that everyone else had done years ago with beeter designed blocks.

[Dacotua]

Was reading the latest issue of Hot Rod and ran across Kurt Urban's 1900hp LS1. Anyone else read up on this thing? Basically its a 352ci iron block'd LS1 with twin 80mm turbo's in Mike Morans camaro chassis (casper) and was the first LS1 into the 6's. Some cool things I noticed about the car were that they run a BOV in the upper radiator hose because the heads lift every run and boost leaks into the cooling system and the BOV helps keep the radiator from exploding, this thing has 1/2" diameter pushrods and uses nitrous to get the twins to spool up with such a small displacement. The last run it ran a 6.86@205mph.

Not bad for a LS1 huh?

Its not a LS-1.

It would be the same thing as someone saying a 302 running 6's then in the fineprint you read that they swapped out for a Boss 302 block, A4 Block, or a Dart Block.

Basically you have a full race car that someone built up. In all honesty I dont care about those.

Why not start listing Kurt Johnson's Pro-Stock Car as a LS1 Bodied car going into the 6's, Naturally Aspirated.

[Lason]

Its not a LS-1.

It would be the same thing as someone saying a 302 running 6's then in the fineprint you read that they swapped out for a Boss 302 block, A4 Block, or a Dart Block.

Basically you have a full race car that someone built up. In all honesty I dont care about those.

Why not start listing Kurt Johnson's Pro-Stock Car as a LS1 Bodied car going into the 6's, Naturally Aspirated.


I really dont even give a fuck but why do you guys keep comparing $1500+ dart blocks to $300 GM truck blocks ? He is NOT runnning an aftermarket block so who gives a fuck? :confused: And you hear about people saying they are running 10's on with a 347 running a Dart block and no one ever says shit, but now that its an LS1................... I swear you people are narrow minded.

[JMoore]

Well, sorry about my rant. I was drinking and just felt like being an Ass!! :D I don't really care about this topic anyway.

[DatDude]

It would be the same thing as someone saying a 302 running 6's then in the fineprint you read that they swapped out for a Boss 302 block, A4 Block, or a Dart Block.
Since when can't guys with a boss or dart block claim they have a 302? Is it not possible to have 302ci anymore? :confused:
Is it really that hard to think about what you are typing before you click "submit reply"?

[momo stallion]

Does Mihovets run a production block? Granatelli did back then so thats why I used him as a reference.


yea, he uses production block and crank. i think he uses an aluminum cobra block. i dont know if they make an aftermarket 4.6/5.4 block.

he was a 281 CI at one point, last time i saw him at a FFW it was a 283 he said. guess he blew out a piston.


i will say his car being a pro 5.0 car with the smallest motor, his car wont weigh more than 2500 pounds.

[momo stallion]

IMO, I count that block as an LS block.

I'm all for a little ford v chevy fun, but i'd count that. i just say its about time!

[SC457A]

[QUOTE=Lason]$1500+ dart blocks QUOTE]

:mad: i paid 1950$ for mine :mad: maybe due to it being a BBC

I think its crazy it lifts the heads like that! The LS1 have 5 studs per cyl?

[Lason]

:mad: i paid 1950$ for mine :mad: maybe due to it being a BBC

I think its crazy it lifts the heads like that! The LS1 have 5 studs per cyl?

Yep 5 headbolts per cylinder and it still lifts. Of course I have heard of guys running 9's and 10's and having heads lift, it no new news in the LS1 camp.

[SUX2BU]

Its four bolts per cylinder guys.

[mach1]

yeah 4 per cyl, Mihovetz runs a production Teksid aluminium block, best time is 6.82 @ 205 I think.

[Lason]

Its four bolts per cylinder guys.

OOPs, my bad, Gen 1 blocks are 5 bolts per cylinder, Gen III's are 4.

[momo stallion]

yeah 4 per cyl, Mihovetz runs a production Teksid aluminium block, best time is 6.82 @ 205 I think.


actually its 6.65 @213 now

[32VfromHell]

guys, its pretty clear to me that car is an "LS1"powered car. It would be different if it were argued that it was if it were racing under ,say, the Factory Stock class.

[JamesB]

how much boost is he running? I only wonder due to the fact they are seeing 47lbs in the cooling system

[Lason]

how much boost is he running? I only wonder due to the fact they are seeing 47lbs in the cooling system

32 lbs I believe

[mach1]

actually its 6.65 @213 now
DAMN movin on up!

[90GT50]

when you quote some one click the quote not the reply so that some one knows who you are talking to



ps:why dont you just cry about it trickLOL, owned by the donald, that's pretty damn bad.

I guess I may be closed-minded, but I don't see what's that impressive about twin 80mm's and nitrous to run that fast. If you could do it with one power adder it would be way more impressive to me. Hell, there's even a 2.0 4 cylinder eclipse with single turbo, and no nitrous running 6's now.

[ThreeFingerPete]

SBC = 5 headbolts per cylinder, LSx =4 per cylinder.

Jesus, some of you aren't very bright.

That's like saying a 289 and a 302 aren't basically the same engine, with altered stroke, well that just fucking changes everything! doh!

i couldn't give two shits about this car, but some of you are stupid in your closed minded ways.

[Lason]

LOL, owned by the donald, that's pretty damn bad.

I guess I may be closed-minded, but I don't see what's that impressive about twin 80mm's and nitrous to run that fast. If you could do it with one power adder it would be way more impressive to me. Hell, there's even a 2.0 4 cylinder eclipse with single turbo, and no nitrous running 6's now.

He only uses the nitrous to spool the turbos at the line according to the article I read

[Old man]

Hey JMoore, I've got a turd of an LS1 and I'll run you anytime you want, you game?

[QUOTE=JMoore]I figured you owned a turd LS1 becaue you sound like an ASS QUOTE]

[46Tbird]

how much boost is he running? I only wonder due to the fact they are seeing 47lbs in the cooling system30-something, the pressure in the cooling system is due to cylinder pressure under boost, not the intake.

There are some first-class asswipes in this thread, it is really obvious why all the decent people have been run off from this board. JMoore, you're a god damned idiot. Just wanted to let you know.

And would anyone else here have the balls to drive a car to 205mph that has a nasty tendency to "expand" it's radiator during a run? :eek: Fuck ALL that...

[TApimp]

As a fellow LSX racer i do say that the car is faster than any other lsx powered vehicle. But it def. could be faster for dual power adders and a 33x17 tire. I have nothing near as fast

He built the engine to run in the ls1tech series, thats why its 351ci ( destroked 6.0L)with lsx based heads. ( no c5r). But then decided to put the motor into a tube chassis car to test thier particular shops (wheel 2 wheel powertrains) lsx motors at the track. ( I would bet he would build a bigger motor if he was trying to set some record)

Hardcore motorsports also has a GTO bodied car in the 6's with c5r parts and a f3r blower.


This is the most power anyone has made with an lsx based motor so far.. There are very few shops wanting to put the money into R&R on these motors. Luckily we have people like Kurt Urban and the w2w team who will. And people like Mike Moran who will loan them a car to do it with.

[302_plus_a_few]

And would anyone else here have the balls to drive a car to 205mph that has a nasty tendency to "expand" it's radiator during a run? :eek: Fuck ALL that...I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would?

Saying an iron truck block is the same as an aluminum LS1 block is bullshit as well.

But when all is said and done. Who gives a shit???? - Really......

[Old man]

The iron block is identical to the aluminum block except for the added 100lbs of weight.

I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would?

Saying an iron truck block is the same as an aluminum LS1 block is bullshit as well.

But when all is said and done. Who gives a shit???? - Really......

[poopnut2]

All you racing buys are bitchez. :p

I remember back in highschool when a 5.0 with 3.73's and an E-cam was considered fast.

[ceyko]

pfft...In my area, a 5.0 with flowmasters was fast. :D

[slownbmta]

I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would?

Saying an iron truck block is the same as an aluminum LS1 block is bullshit as well.

But when all is said and done. Who gives a shit???? - Really......

Nobody gives a fuck about your mid 6 second 1/8 mile mustang either :rolleyes:

[slownbmta]

I'm having trouble understanding why anyone would?

Saying an iron truck block is the same as an aluminum LS1 block is bullshit as well.

But when all is said and done. Who gives a shit???? - Really......

Do you see people crying because you have aluminum heads :confused: No because your junk is to slow to get any kind of attention :rolleyes:

[302_plus_a_few]

Nobody gives a fuck about your mid 6 second 1/8 mile mustang either :rolleyes:Thread isn't about my car. My starting a thread about my mid 6 second 1/8th mile Mustang would be as worthless as someone starting a thread about some LS1 hybrid running 6s in the quarter. :rolleyes:
Do you see people crying because you have aluminum heads :confused: No because your junk is to slow to get any kind of attention :rolleyes:Then stop crying.....

BTW, you must be paying attention because you know that I have aluminum heads and run mid 6s.... Hmmmmmm

What does bm stand for in your name? LMAO!

[PooterWS6]

Thread isn't about my car. My starting a thread about my mid 6 second 1/8th mile Mustang would be as worthless as someone starting a thread about some LS1 hybrid running 6s in the quarter. :rolleyes:
Then stop crying.....

BTW, you must be paying attention because you know that I have aluminum heads and run mid 6s.... Hmmmmmm

What does bm stand for in your name? LMAO!
nbm is navy blue metallic, damn youre quick too. :rolleyes:

How is the car mentioned a hybrid? Because its running a iron block from the same motor family?

How many 6 sec 1/4 mile 5.0s are still running a stock production block? :rolleyes:

[302_plus_a_few]

How many 6 sec 1/4 mile 5.0s are still running a stock production block? :rolleyes:The more important question is who gives a shit?

[Cmarsh93z]

The more important question is who gives a shit?

It would have been easier just to say "ZERO"

haha

[ThreeFingerPete]

...some LS1 hybrid running 6s in the quarter. :rolleyes:



What about it is a hybrid?

[PooterWS6]

The more important question is who gives a shit?
Apparently you do. :rolleyes:
You did mention the "hybrid" motor, with a factory block.

[slownbmta]

The more important question is who gives a shit?

Maybe if we start a thread about twinkies it would get your approval :rolleyes: Quit buying those and put the $$$ in your turd turbo car and maybe somebody would start a thread about your car ;)

[slownbmta]

Thread isn't about my car. My starting a thread about my mid 6 second 1/8th mile Mustang would be as worthless as someone starting a thread about some LS1 hybrid running 6s in the quarter. :rolleyes:
Then stop crying.....

BTW, you must be paying attention because you know that I have aluminum heads and run mid 6s.... Hmmmmmm

What does bm stand for in your name? LMAO!

I paid attention because the way you talk on here I was sure your car ran high 4s so I was curious of your combo. Then I saw that your car is nowhere near as fast as your mouth is :eek: :D

[302_plus_a_few]

I paid attention because the way you talk on here I was sure your car ran high 4s so I was curious of your combo. Then I saw that your car is nowhere near as fast as your mouth is :eek: :DA high 4 second street car would be interesting but I'm stuck in the 6s for now. Curious - how fast is your car?

[PooterWS6]

A high 4 second street car would be interesting but I'm stuck in the 6s for now. Curious - how fast is your car?
You still didnt answer the "hybrid" motor question.

[slownbmta]

A high 4 second street car would be interesting but I'm stuck in the 6s for now. Curious - how fast is your car?

Why do you want to run for some $$$$$ :confused:

['01 WS6 TA]

Why do you want to run for some $$$$$ :confused:

He doesn't run for money... :rolleyes:

[302_plus_a_few]

Why do you want to run for some $$$$$ :confused:"....the way you talk on here I was sure your car ran high 4s so I was curious of your combo."

And your money question was answered by the only other person on this board that blows up more shit than BeenFetchedLately

[slownbmta]

I'm talking about like $200 or something not something to scare you out of a race :rolleyes:

[slownbmta]

You break more parts when you go fast ;)

[slownbmta]

My car runs low 8s in the 1/8th but i'm good on the lights so I think I could tree you. wanna set something up?


<----- car has that non- hybrid aluminum LS1

[302_plus_a_few]

I'm talking about like $200 or something not something to scare you out of a race :rolleyes:Never have raced for money. Not going to start Are you one of those LS1 types that only races for money? :rolleyes:

[slownbmta]

No I will race for fun. When do you want to run, next weekend since its raining?

[302_plus_a_few]

No I will race for fun. When do you want to run, next weekend since its raining?Next cruise. I don't get out much.

[Big Thumper]

Kirk, when you are you going to start building a good motor so you can turn it up?

[302_plus_a_few]

Kirk, when you are you going to start building a good motor so you can turn it up?If I were to do said new motor don't you think something like that could be ready by, oh say, by next cruise???? ;)

[slownbmta]

When is the next cruise :confused: I go through cars faster than that :) I will be ready regardless.

[PooterWS6]

If I were to do said new motor don't you think something like that could be ready by, oh say, by next cruise???? ;)
Sure hope its a hybrid!

[slownbmta]

Surely it wouldnt have a different block :eek: Then all 11000 something of Kirks posts would be bullshit :D

[?LSwhat?]

I'm running a turbo....someone wanting to race a turbocharged Mustang?

[302_plus_a_few]

I'm running a turbo....someone wanting to race a turbocharged Mustang?If you want to race any of the LS1 types on this site you have to keep your E.T and MPH top secret. Not a one of them will race you if there is even the most remote chance that they will lose. These guys are hard core! :rolleyes:

[PooterWS6]

If you want to race any of the LS1 types on this site you have to keep your E.T and MPH top secret. Not a one of them will race you if there is even the most remote chance that they will lose. These guys are hard core! :rolleyes:
Yep, almost as bad as the turbo 5.0 guys :rolleyes:
With the stock blocks handed down from god himself, that can handle 1 billion million horse power.

[302_plus_a_few]

Yep, almost as bad as the turbo 5.0 guys :rolleyes:
With the stock blocks handed down from god himself, that can handle 1 billion million horse power.Not our fault you LS1 types forget how to get to the track or blow your shit up before race day. :rolleyes:

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[PooterWS6]

Not our fault you LS1 types forget how to get to the track or blow your shit up before race day. :rolleyes:

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So you going to answer my hybrid question?
Or since your "new combo" is going to be a 4second beast, Im assuming from all your talk of hybrid motors, youll be sticking with a stock block, straight from the factory, correct?

[302_plus_a_few]

So you going to answer my hybrid question?
Or since your "new combo" is going to be a 4second beast, Im assuming from all your talk of hybrid motors, youll be sticking with a stock block, straight from the factory, correct?I've already got a stock block. Why would I want another one of those. Wouldn't it be more prudent to step up to a Dart stroker block of some sort????

[PooterWS6]

I've already got a stock block. Why would I want another one of those. Wouldn't it be more prudent to step up to a Dart stroker block of some sort????
It would be.
But you knock hybrid motors, and how strong the stock 5.0 block is, thought you would show all us ls1 types how to run 4s with the stock block.

Still waiting for an answer as to why the motor the thread is about, is a "hybrid", with a factory block.

[46Tbird]

factory block + aftermarket heads = hybrid :D

[slownbmta]

Kirk what kind of power does your car make at the wheels?

[302_plus_a_few]

But you knock hybrid motors, and how strong the stock 5.0 block is, Where have I ever said that the factory 5.0 block is strong? Its good to mid 500s at the wheels with a good tune and not much more. If that is your idea of strong, then I guess it is.Still waiting for an answer as to why the motor the thread is about, is a "hybrid", with a factory block.An LS1 is aluminum and came in Crapmaro's Fireturds and Vettes. That iron block isn't an LS1. What is so hard to understand about that?Kirk what kind of power does your car make at the wheels?Don't know but probably in the mid 500s or so based on MPH and weight. What does yours make?

[ThreeFingerPete]

Where have I ever said that the factory 5.0 block is strong? Its good to mid 500s at the wheels with a good tune and not much more. If that is your idea of strong, then I guess it is.An LS1 is aluminum and came in Crapmaro's Fireturds and Vettes. That iron block isn't an LS1. What is so hard to understand about that?Don't know but probably in the mid 500s or so based on MPH and weight. What does yours make?


so an aluminum 5.0 block, would be considered a "hybrid" even if it is virtually identical except for the material it was cast in?

[PooterWS6]

Where have I ever said that the factory 5.0 block is strong? Its good to mid 500s at the wheels with a good tune and not much more. If that is your idea of strong, then I guess it is.An LS1 is aluminum and came in Crapmaro's Fireturds and Vettes. That iron block isn't an LS1. What is so hard to understand about that?Don't know but probably in the mid 500s or so based on MPH and weight. What does yours make?
Sure hope you never snag a block out of an F150 :rolleyes:
Damn hybrids.

The iron block is the same damn thing, different material, all internals swap over, heads, etc.
Same platform. Hell its even a factory produced block.

[302_plus_a_few]

so an aluminum 5.0 block, would be considered a "hybrid" even if it is virtually identical except for the material it was cast in?I would could an aluminum 302 block "an aluminum 8.2 deck height block" but that's me.

I certainly wouldn't call an LY6 block an LS1.Sure hope you never snag a block out of an F150 :rolleyes: That wouldn't be so bad. I'd take a later model roller cam 351 even if they are a bit weaker than the early ones. It would still be stronger than a 302 production block.

[Samhain]

1900hp :confused:

When is the last time you had a 1900hp motor?

When he installed the plugs upside down.