Bracket Racing is Pointless

[Michaelb303]

Can we get ride of Bracket Racing at Dfwstangs Events?? I can take a Grandpa car out there and compete. I personally think it's pointless. 10.5 class, or king of the hill is much more competitive and entertaining.

[Baron]

X2

[bobs94formula]

If people would quit entering the brackets then they would do away with them. It looked like more people did that than the smack talk NT runs.

[Michaelb303]

If people would quit entering the brackets then they would do away with them. It looked like more people did that than the smack talk NT runs.
I just think it's about pointless, There was even a completely stock 4 door Honda that raced in brackets at the event this weekend.

[propellerhead]

Bracket racing works for newbs like me.

[Beenfetchedlately]

I just think it's about pointless, There was even a completely stock 4 door Honda that raced in brackets at the event this weekend.lol...that was me!!!!! I broke out though. Had it not picked up over .12 on my second pass i would have been perfectly fine and went home with entry for the next year. I hate brackets too! But i wanted to race. My lights were .015-.029's

[Michaelb303]

lol...that was me!!!!! I broke out though. Had it not picked up over .12 on my second pass i would have been perfectly fine and went home with entry for the next year. I hate brackets too! But i wanted to race. My lights were .015-.029's
I thought it was funny, and it just supports my statement that it's a pointless competition.

It just pissed me off to watch someone hit the brakes so they won't break out. I thought the idea was to go as fast as you can. Not hit the brakes so you won't go too fast.

[Beenfetchedlately]

I thought it was funny, and it just supports my statement that it's a pointless competition.

It just pissed me off to watch someone hit the brakes so they won't break out. I thought the idea was to go as fast as you can. Not hit the brakes so you won't go too fast.
lol...i was laughing too. I was even thinking about pushing my car through the lanes... :D I ha dno intentions of letting off at all. But i was damn surprised to see me breakout by .005 :(

[mikeb]

I could see where it would be a good idea to put a maximum limit (say, maybe a 10 flat) on the dial-in to weed out the 12 second cars. If a person tried to dial more than that then they would get the maximum (the 10 flat).

Bracket racing always favors the slower, more consistent cars; that's why at larger races you'll typically see several bracket classes with tighter groupings to make the racing more competitive.

If you did away with brackets you'd eliminate the one class that a lot of cars fit into and you might discourage people from coming out to these things.

[OrangeChevyII]

lol...i was laughing too. I was even thinking about pushing my car through the lanes... :D I ha dno intentions of letting off at all. But i was damn surprised to see me breakout by .005 :(
There are two different kinds of racers,some prefer to run brackets and make some money and some who like to run the dogshit out if there cars and just have the bragging rights.I myself love to bracket race because i am good at it and i made quite a bit of money this year.Lets see went to the races 20 times this year and made a total of around $1650.00.Those little bracket races that yall did yesterday was not even a fraction of what real bracket racing is like when there are big events like Redline has ( cars that cost $15000 TO $100000 ).I have no problem with you guys that come out and want to test and tune on our bracket nights so why do you have a problem with these guys bracket racing.These cruises and races are all about having fun and that means the guys with the slowest and the guys with the fastest.Im sure Mike will agree with the competition aspect when they have there regular bracket nights.By the way how did Kennedale do this year at the team finals.

[OrangeChevyII]

I could see where it would be a good idea to put a maximum limit (say, maybe a 10 flat) on the dial-in to weed out the 12 second cars. If a person tried to dial more than that then they would get the maximum (the 10 flat).

Bracket racing always favors the slower, more consistent cars; that's why at larger races you'll typically see several bracket classes with tighter groupings to make the racing more competitive.

If you did away with brackets you'd eliminate the one class that a lot of cars fit into and you might discourage people from coming out to these things.
The only thing i dont agree with is the slower cars have the advantageI run 7.90's to 8.20' and i love to chase the other guys that way when i pass them i know i can let out and win,on the other hand i had a 9.90 pu that i always got the head start and if you let out to soon you will lose everytime because you might get passed and dont have the power to get back around.My win ratio is better when i have to chase.

[89lx5.0]

I have to agree with 69whiteSS i like bracket racing also.My ride runs in the 5.90s and is just as consistant as any other.Bracket racing allows me to compete against 100,000. dollar rides and have a chance of winning.where as heads up racing is he with the most money wins.

[Beenfetchedlately]

There are two different kinds of racers,some prefer to run brackets and make some money and some who like to run the dogshit out if there cars and just have the bragging rights.I myself love to bracket race because i am good at it and i made quite a bit of money this year.Lets see went to the races 20 times this year and made a total of around $1650.00.Those little bracket races that yall did yesterday was not even a fraction of what real bracket racing is like when there are big events like Redline has ( cars that cost $15000 TO $100000 ).I have no problem with you guys that come out and want to test and tune on our bracket nights so why do you have a problem with these guys bracket racing.These cruises and races are all about having fun and that means the guys with the slowest and the guys with the fastest.Im sure Mike will agree with the competition aspect when they have there regular bracket nights.By the way how did Kennedale do this year at the team finals.

I dont know but i was looking for you yesterday and you were a no show :(

Im not sure how they did to be honest. I know they went 3 in a row but I dont think they made it this time did they?

[mikeb]

The only thing i dont agree with is the slower cars have the advantageI run 7.90's to 8.20' and i love to chase the other guys that way when i pass them i know i can let out and win,on the other hand i had a 9.90 pu that i always got the head start and if you let out to soon you will lose everytime because you might get passed and dont have the power to get back around.My win ratio is better when i have to chase.

In the scenario you described where the cars are closely matched then what you said is true. I went 6 rounds at the 2004 pontiac southern nationals in the 12.0 to 13.5 class running 12.02-12.05 and being the "chase" car and took 2nd place. I was in the sweet spot, ET wise.

What I was referring to is guys like "mudlfap jack" whose cars creep along and they run the same exact number time after time. When I used to race at the old green valley raceway there was a guy there running a small pickup of some kind and he would run the same exact number (like a 22 second 1/4 mile) every time and always won his bracket. Dead slow, dead consistent, dead boring.

Generally the faster you go the harder it gets to be consistent for most people unless you are a professional bracket racer or run a "comp" car.

[Moose Jr]

Bracket raced because I wanted to do something competitive, too slow to run the heads up class. It was fun just to be there, I had some pretty good lights... .044, .029, .009 and an .069 when I lost in the semi's. Not too shabby for a stick car!

[Super Coupe]

Bracket racing is fun when you are racing in it but sucks to watch. I hate watching it.

[89lx5.0]

In the scenario you described where the cars are closely matched then what you said is true. I went 6 rounds at the 2004 pontiac southern nationals in the 12.0 to 13.5 class running 12.02-12.05 and being the "chase" car and took 2nd place. I was in the sweet spot, ET wise.

What I was referring to is guys like "mudlfap jack" whose cars creep along and they run the same exact number time after time. When I used to race at the old green valley raceway there was a guy there running a small pickup of some kind and he would run the same exact number (like a 22 second 1/4 mile) every time and always won his bracket. Dead slow, dead consistent, dead boring.

Generally the faster you go the harder it gets to be consistent for most people unless you are a professional bracket racer or run a "comp" car.
I do understand what you are saying and i agree i do not want to run cars that are 4 seconds slower than me.And i agree that you have to keep them close for it to be interesting.

[turbo93gt]

lol...that was me!!!!! I broke out though. Had it not picked up over .12 on my second pass i would have been perfectly fine and went home with entry for the next year. I hate brackets too! But i wanted to race. My lights were .015-.029's

i thought it was funny that you were in a honda. we met at SQR, i was working on the C5 clutch with Joe.

[90GT50]

NT is also pointless. Can we have No NT allowed for anyone next cruise, especially the garland crew?

[Beenfetchedlately]

i thought it was funny that you were in a honda. we met at SQR, i was working on the C5 clutch with Joe.
Its my other daily beater. :cool: Good to put a screen name with a face too.

Mike

[Michaelb303]

Bracket racing is fun when you are racing in it but sucks to watch. I hate watching it.
x2 I'll rephrase my statement, I just hate watching it.

[musclestang89]

Like i said in a previous post, most people will complain about the brackets, but more people will be racing inthat class than any other.

tamestang said it best, yes it sucks watching the brackets but it is fun racing in them. Now I loved watching the king of DFWstang, but just not many entires in that class.

So we just need to leave it like it was. I think this crusie turn out real well, lots of cars showed up to race and plenty of people came out to watch. It wasn't like Redline crusie where the annoncer almost had to beg for people to come up and race.

[Z06killinSBF]

I like bracket racing cause it's a DRIVERS sport, not who has the faster car. I had the best run of my life in the Toyo Street class in Ennis when I took down the past year points champ with a .501 light and ran my #. He was in a sprayed Z06. I loved it.

[Baron]

I would insist on a 10.00 max on dial for next time.

[turbo93gt]

Its my other daily beater. :cool: Good to put a screen name with a face too.

Mike

i was gonna give you a shout, but i didnt think youd remember.

-Clem

[Beenfetchedlately]

i was gonna give you a shout, but i didnt think youd remember.

-Clem
I may not remember a name, but i dont forget faces.. :)

[jyro]

If you made it so that the dialin had to be 8.50 or quicker, grandpaw couldn't enter. I totally agree, racing a 11 second 1/8th mile car sux.

[propellerhead]

If you made it so that the dialin had to be 8.50 or quicker, grandpaw couldn't enter. I totally agree, racing a 11 second 1/8th mile car sux.
Make that 9.50 or quicker. That way the ones with stock GTs with a few bolt ons can get in. That would rule out any 4-bangers or broke cars.

[Tweaked Blazer]

Make that 9.50 or quicker. That way the ones with stock GTs with a few bolt ons can get in. That would rule out any 4-bangers or broke cars.
Redline had a pinto with a 4 cylinder that ran 9.00's.it was fun watching oranges10 give him a3 second head start and fetch him and beat him.But for some reason you always seem to find your self cheering for him.Some people on here may have seen him before.i think he won fun ford a couple of years ago.it used to be maroon. :D

[SC457A]

[QUOTE=89lx5.0]I do understand what you are saying and i agree i do not want to run cars that are 4 seconds slower than me.QUOTE]

i personally love long spots. they are a true test of patience at the line, more so in no-e class. biggest i had in no-e was a 22.00 car in 1/4 to my 12.10. that was a long wait.

The dragster's biggest wait was a 14.00 car to my 7.85 (1/4) he was going 92 mph.. to my 168. that was a tad tough to judge at the line.

I agree, brackets are boring to watch for most. I love to watch them, but i look for other things than the average joe.

[SC457A]

Redline had a pinto with a 4 cylinder that ran 9.00's. :D

i recall that car, very well. he also did pretty well in it from time to time.
i raced him once at ennis, he gave me a good run. but not good enough