White Sox 2-0

[Jae11]

A few of you said Astros in 6, so you going to open ur eyes cause your down 0-2, yes you got oswelt but he cant pitch every game and no more celemens, garland is no sloutch game 3 is going to be great, im a white sox fan but astros will win game 3 and sox game 4 with garcia pitching a great game, i think contreous sp? will win game 5 he has been great for the white sox to win the series

[Trip McNeely]

Its gonna be tough.

[Hollywood]

A few of you said Astros in 6, so you going to open ur eyes cause your down 0-2, yes you got oswelt but he cant pitch every game and no more celemens, garland is no sloutch game 3 is going to be great, im a white sox fan but astros will win game 3 and sox game 4 with garcia pitching a great game, i think contreous sp? will win game 5 he has been great for the white sox to win the series


You'll have to forgive most of those jumping on the stro's bandwagon. Most of them are trying to predict this series on the way the Sox played in August vs the way the Stro's played after the all-star break. Not to mention they are high after beating an injury plagued Cards team. Too bad for them this is not the Cards.
I'd like a sweep to silence them, however, I'm pretty sure that Oswalt will get them one. But I'm with you, i'm pretty sure the Sox win this in 5, 6 at the most seeing how they have the best road record in the majors.

[190hp4banger]

I predicted 'Stros in 7. I know the Sox are a good team, but the 'Stros are better. They're just choking. They catch back up, they tie the game, pull ahead, etc, and when they're within reach or about to put the Sox away...they slip up. I've been a fan of both teams since I was very young, and I really feel like the 'Stros are better, but as y'all can see, they've got "Chris Simms syndrome" (aka choke artist syndrome).

[Hollywood]

I predicted 'Stros in 7. I know the Sox are a good team, but the 'Stros are better. They're just choking. They catch back up, they tie the game, pull ahead, etc, and when they're within reach or about to put the Sox away...they slip up. I've been a fan of both teams since I was very young, and I really feel like the 'Stros are better, but as y'all can see, they've got "Chris Simms syndrome" (aka choke artist syndrome).

I don't see how you can say they are better. The Sox have the better record and argueably the tougher division. And they made shorter work of their opponents in the post season. Naturally being in the NL with no DH, the Stros have the lower team ERA, yet despite not facing a DH, the stros ERA is only .10 better than that of the Sox and the WHIP nearly identical. As for the playoffs, the Sox have the better ERA, WHIP, HIT, OBA, and walk ratio than the Stros.
Hitting wise, hands down, the Sox posted better regular season and postseason. They ranked higher in Hits, HR's, Runs, RBI's, Stolen Bases, OBP, SLG, etc.
I'm just confused as to how you Stros fans can't see that the Sox are the better team. As for choking, I disagree. the Astros are the ones with all the Post Season veterans (Pettite, Clemens, etc). The Sox are simply outplaying them like they should.

[190hp4banger]

How are you confused? Yes, the Sox had the better record... the 'Stros goofed off/choked all season and then came back to make the playoffs. They were GOOD ENOUGH to do the improbable. They do have worse stats for the season and the playoffs... because they play down to others' levels, then come back to win when it matters. It matters that they have veterans :confused: Last time I checked, veterans can play down to someone else's level or choke just as easily as a rookie. There's no rose colored glasses here, I have many Sox hats from Little League :D , but I just think the 'Stros are the better team. More consistent, heck no, better when they're at the top of their game, yes. It's not like these last two games in the WS were blowouts or anything.

[Hollywood]

How are you confused? Yes, the Sox had the better record... the 'Stros goofed off/choked all season and then came back to make the playoffs. They were GOOD ENOUGH to do the improbable. They do have worse stats for the season and the playoffs... because they play down to others' levels, then come back to win when it matters. It matters that they have veterans :confused: Last time I checked, veterans can play down to someone else's level or choke just as easily as a rookie. There's no rose colored glasses here, I have many Sox hats from Little League :D , but I just think the 'Stros are the better team. More consistent, heck no, better when they're at the top of their game, yes. It's not like these last two games in the WS were blowouts or anything.


Don't get me wrong, i'm not calling the Stros pathetic or weak. I'm not saying they got here by luck, I just believe they are the 2nd best team in this series. My point on the choking, is that the Sox should be the team that is more prone to choking as the Stros have guys that have been here before, the Sox do not.

[190hp4banger]

Yeah, but sadly enough, that isn't the case. Well sadly enough for us that would like to see Houston win :p . Don't get me wrong, they're not playing that bad OVERALL, but Lidge is serving up game-winning pitches in each series it seems like, and even Biggio dropped a pop-up, etc. I'm definitely not doggin the Sox either, I was standin up for them in the other thread. I predicted that the 'Stros would win in 7, and that the Sox wouldn't win b/c of "luck" as someone else suggested, it would take the whole 7 games to finally edge them out 4 wins to 3. I guess we'll just have to see how good the 'Stros really are at overcoming the odds :o .

P.S. I don't care for Frank Thomas anymore either, and you have to root for Bagwell and Biggio. :D

[Hollywood]

Yeah, but sadly enough, that isn't the case. Well sadly enough for us that would like to see Houston win :p . Don't get me wrong, they're not playing that bad OVERALL, but Lidge is serving up game-winning pitches in each series it seems like, and even Biggio dropped a pop-up, etc. I'm definitely not doggin the Sox either, I was standin up for them in the other thread. I predicted that the 'Stros would win in 7, and that the Sox wouldn't win b/c of "luck" as someone else suggested, it would take the whole 7 games to finally edge them out 4 wins to 3. I guess we'll just have to see how good the 'Stros really are at overcoming the odds :o .

P.S. I don't care for Frank Thomas anymore either, and you have to root for Bagwell and Biggio. :D

lol, poor Frank. Dude's done. He can't stay healthy to save his life. Waited his whole life to play in the WS and the year it happens, he goes down for the year.

[Trip McNeely]

Stros just dont look like they are in this game tonight. :( I cant see it in their eyes.

[MoonDog]

I think my homeboys are gonna get a sweep. I may be a Cubs fan but I certainly dont mind seeing our cross town rivals playing like they are.

[chevy]

extra innings

[Hollywood]

I barely made it through that inning. I heart El Duque. Dude has ice in his veins. Thats twice he's done that this post season.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Maaaaaan, Garner hasn't been helping his team much.

[Hollywood]

Stros just dont look like they are in this game tonight. :( I cant see it in their eyes.

What game have you been watching? :confused:

[Hollywood]

Good news for the Astros, Damaso Marte is warming up in the bullpen. If Ozzie puts that hack in, it's as good as over.

[Trip McNeely]

What game have you been watching? :confused:
The only game on. I just dont see it in their eyes, or at least innings 5-8. They looked tired maybe, I dunno.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

That could've been due to the fact that Oswalt pitched them from 4 runs up to 1 run down.

Edit: Damn, that's a big step backward: from a runner on second with 1 out to a runner on first with 2 outs.

[Trip McNeely]

WTF is with us? I cant count on my fingers how many times we blow a 2 on 2 outs, runner in scoring position. Its like a curse for us! :mad:

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

It's called being outplayed. It happens when you're playing a better team.

[Trip McNeely]

It's called being outplayed. It happens when you're playing a better team.
Stfu, you dont know anything. Im just a pyscho fan. :rolleyes:

[Hollywood]

WTF is with us? I cant count on my fingers how many times we blow a 2 on 2 outs, runner in scoring position. Its like a curse for us! :mad:

Its what the sox have been doing to teams all year. Just ask Boston and the Angels.

[Trip McNeely]

Its what the sox have been doing to teams all year. Just ask Boston and the Angels.
mm not so much. If you would've seen any of the Astros games, they have done it with numerous teams, not just the Sox.

[Hollywood]

mm not so much. If you would've seen any of the Astros games, they have done it with numerous teams, not just the Sox.

I've watched over 50 Sox games this year. Trust me, this is normal for the Sox.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Stfu, you dont know anything. Im just a pyscho fan. :rolleyes:LOL, Even psycho fans need a dose of reality every now and again.

[Trip McNeely]

I've watched over 50 Sox games this year. Trust me, this is normal for the Sox.
They didnt play the Astros 50 times. They have done it with many other teams. Sox do not = God.

[Hollywood]

They didnt play the Astros 50 times. They have done it with many other teams. Sox do not = God.

Maybe not = God but don't be so naive. You sound like most of the media not giving them a chance. The Sox had the best record in the majors for the first half of the season and the best road record over all. They had the best record in games decided by 1 run. Why you and the rest of the MLB league do not want to give the Sox the credit they deserve is beyond me. I find it fucking hillarious that you and your groupies think the Stros could win this in 6. all year long when the Sox beat a team, I had to listen to the opposing teams trolls coming over to our sox boards making excuses. They are the best team this year, deal with it.

[Trip McNeely]

Maybe not = God but don't be so naive. You sound like most of the media not giving them a chance. The Sox had the best record in the majors for the first half of the season and the best road record over all. They had the best record in games decided by 1 run. Why you and the rest of the MLB league do not want to give the Sox the credit they deserve is beyond me. I find it fucking hillarious that you and your groupies think the Stros could win this in 6. all year long when the Sox beat a team, I had to listen to the opposing teams trolls coming over to our sox boards making excuses. They are the best team this year, deal with it.
I am not an Astros groupie, please do not incllude me in that. Ive been a fan since i was a kid going to the dome. You can ask anyone that knows me. And the sox are not as badass as you think, as the Stros have kept them in strings for all of these games. As you can tell its been all about the defense and strategy in this series thus far. Hitting and errors have added to that. And also myself for one never said anything about Stros sweeping the Sox. I knew it was gonna be rough, but as you can tell from the previous scores, and now into extra innings in this ballgame, the Sox are not so superior to the Astros. I haven't seen any blowouts thus far.

[Hollywood]

I am not an Astros groupie, please do not incllude me in that. Ive been a fan since i was a kid going to the dome. You can ask anyone that knows me. And the sox are not as badass as you think, as the Stros have kept them in strings for all of these games. As you can tell its been all about the defense and strategy in this series thus far. Hitting and errors have added to that. And also myself for one never said anything about Stros sweeping the Sox. I knew it was gonna be rough, but as you can tell from the previous scores, and now into extra innings in this ballgame, the Sox are not so superior to the Astros. I haven't seen any blowouts thus far.

The sox are superior, but the Astros are worthy to be here. You don't have to have a blowout to be better. As for lumping you with the others, my apologies, it just pisses me off that you guys haven't even lost this game yet and the excuses are already flying.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Yeah, I'd say that the White Sox are simply outplaying the Astros, rather than the Astros just not having it (that look in their eyes)...again, tonight.

[Hollywood]

Sox going to lose this one if they don't score this inning. The hack Marte is all that is left in the bullpen.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Sox going to lose this one if they don't score this inning. The hack Marte is all that is left in the bullpen."You're Old Mother Hubbard, and only Vaughn's left in your cupboard...He wants the righty, the Vile Thing..."
"Blow it out your ass, lard mouth."
"Oh my God! Oh my God!"

I'm just sayin', he might surprise you...

[Trip McNeely]

The sox are superior, but the Astros are worthy to be here. You don't have to have a blowout to be better. As for lumping you with the others, my apologies, it just pisses me off that you guys haven't even lost this game yet and the excuses are already flying.
What excuses?

[Hollywood]

"You're Old Mother Hubbard, and only Vaughn's left in your cupboard...He wants the righty, the Vile Thing..."
"Blow it out your ass, lard mouth."
"Oh my God! Oh my God!"

I'm just sayin', he might surprise you...


LOL, i was just looking for that quote, you read my mind.


Chris, I was referring to this comment when I said excuses.

Stros just dont look like they are in this game tonight. :( I cant see it in their eyes.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

LOL, i was just looking for that quote, you read my mind.Haha, I've seen that movie so many times, the good quotes are up here. *points to noggin*

[Trip McNeely]

LOL, i was just looking for that quote, you read my mind.


Chris, I was referring to this comment when I said excuses.
Thats not an excuse. lol. IMO, thats how I see it. You're either on or your off.

[Hollywood]

Thats not an excuse. lol. IMO, thats how I see it. You're either on or your off.


I need a beer. This game has me too highstrung right now. I'm wigging out over here.

[Trip McNeely]

I need a beer. This game has me too highstrung right now. I'm wigging out over here.
LOL! You are?? Hell you are up by 2 in the series. If anyone needs a beer its me, or a shot of Tequila.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

You guys need a hobby, that's what you need. :p

[Hollywood]

LOL! You are?? Hell you are up by 2 in the series. If anyone needs a beer its me, or a shot of Tequila.

Yea but a win tonight puts the stros on deaths doorstep, a loss, the stros are right back in it. Go for the throat Ozzie!

[Hollywood]

Podsednik....game 2 hero....game 3 goat. :mad:

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Yeah, no bunt is better than a bad bunt.

[Hollywood]

Well...i'm hitting the showers. I hope my boys can hold them off while i'm gone.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Laterz. I hope they can, too. $10 riding on this game. :(

[Trip McNeely]

Well...i'm hitting the showers. I hope my boys can hold them off while i'm gone.

You wanna hit a sports bar tommorow night and watch it?

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

No. Fine. Screw you, too. :)

PS: I hope Houston comes back and wins, for the sake of all things Texan and not Yankee. However, I feel better betting on the better team (which, thus far, has been Chicago).

[Nate]

You wanna hit a sports bar tommorow night and watch it?
I heard bar..... :cool:

[Hollywood]

You wanna hit a sports bar tommorow night and watch it?

Sure thing. Hmm, there's several potential hot spots in Addison. Buffalo Wild Wings has several big screens I know. You're still in Lewisville right?

[Nate]

someone pm me when y'all figure this out. I'll come by after I get off work.

[Hollywood]

someone pm me when y'all figure this out. I'll come by after I get off work.

I'll give you a call when we figure it out or hit you up on AIM.

[Trip McNeely]

Sure thing. Hmm, there's several potential hot spots in Addison. Buffalo Wild Wings has several big screens I know. You're still in Lewisville right?
Yeah Im in Lewisville. Let me know. I get off work about 8 or 8:30 though so Id have to meet you up there. Just call my cell phone. And anyone else whos down let me know, or meet up at the place we decide.

[Nate]

you could even buy me a few beers wood.

[Hollywood]

Yeah Im in Lewisville. Let me know. I get off work about 8 or 8:30 though so Id have to meet you up there.

No problem, I get off work at 7, wouldn't be there till about 8-8:30 either. Nate works late as well.

[Hollywood]

Scoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Hot damn, that big defensive play by the third baseman (reminiscent of my playin' days :cool: ) saved the Astros 2 runs.

[Hollywood]

you could even buy me a few beers wood.

Yea, i'll hook you up.

[Trip McNeely]

So where you guys wanna go? I havent been to buffalo wild wings yet, we can go there?

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Haha!

"Hit it to third, hit it to third!"

"...and the wheels are falling off the wagon..."

[Nate]

there's a nice one very close to me at 635 and MacArthur. That's my vote.

[Hollywood]

The one in addison is perfect. Its off of Quorom and Beltline. 2 big screens on the south wall, one big screen on the north wall. Bascially a group can sit at at a table and everyone can see the game without straining their neck.

[Trip McNeely]

Addison? Ah man, I dont wanna go to Addison on a game night.

[Nate]

Addison? Ah man, I dont wanna go to Addison on a game night.
Irving then?

[Trip McNeely]

How about like Fuckrudders near Grapevine Mills?

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

LOL @ Oswalt "not having the same stuff he had in the NLCS against St. Louis." He did, for a solid 4 innings.

[Hollywood]

Ouch, thats too far for me.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Man, one swing of the bat against the Vile Thing, and this could be a game again...

Edit: That strike 2 swing-and-miss wasn't it. :o

[rebeljj]

here is their chance
:p

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

It is a game now.

[Trip McNeely]

Ouch, thats too far for me.
Youre back in arlington now right?

[Hollywood]

Youre back in arlington now right?

No, north dallas off of Preston. About 10 minutes north of 635.

[Hollywood]

Uribe giving them life...you stupid stupid silly man!

[Hollywood]

3-0 baby....*sigh*

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

It's okay, though. He was just teasing them with it.

Goddam. Geoff Blum looks like (a smaller version of) OneBadWagon. :eek:

[Trip McNeely]

No, north dallas off of Preston. About 10 minutes north of 635.
Hmmmmmmmm.......Im trying to think of a good in-between spot.

[Nate]

Hmmmmmmmm.......Im trying to think of a good in-between spot.
635 and MacArthur :cool:

[Trip McNeely]

635 and MacArthur :cool:
ha. Yeah bullshit. :D

[Nate]

ha. Yeah bullshit. :D
it's in the middle for all of us. I technically have to go home to south irving.

[Jae11]

Geoff blum the formor astro lol haha stros in six hahah lol haha, so wait the astros are still the better team right, the better team is always down 0-3

[190hp4banger]

Sox going to lose this one if they don't score this inning. The hack Marte is all that is left in the bullpen.

not when the Astros are choking :mad: . All they had to do was bunt to win the game. 1 out, bases loaded, a speedy guy on 3rd, and someone who hasn't hit up to bat. You tell me what we should do :rolleyes: . "I think we'll take our chances and let him swing away."

*edit* I know that isn't STATISCALLY the best thing to do at that moment... but it was the smartest with the way they've been playing.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Don't hate, man. The series isn't over.

I remember a while back, somebody was down 0-3 in some 7 game series and then came back to win the last 4 games. Can't quite remember who it was...Was it the '04 Red Sox? Nah...

[Jae11]

OMG choking blah blah, why dont stros fans admit they are getting beat by a better team, if the stros were better they wouldnt "choke"

[Trip McNeely]

Geoff blum the formor astro lol haha stros in six hahah lol haha, so wait the astros are still the better team right, the better team is always down 0-3
Wow heres the sites bandwaggoner. Seemingly, I never heard shit from you until the series was 2-0. Hmmmm....

[Jae11]

Wow heres the sites bandwaggoner. Seemingly, I never heard shit from you until the series was 2-0. Hmmmm....

wow how bout no since i was born on the south side of chicago

[Trip McNeely]

wow how bout no since i was born on the south side of chicago
And? You still didnt answer my question. I was born in Houston, but Im not a Texans fan.

[Jae11]

And? You still didnt answer my question.

what that i didnt say much at first, because i was worried that the sox would choke like they are known for and it looks good for them now, i was still upset how people where saying the stros were better when there not, i respect the astros they are an awsome team. i was just excited about the win so i came off like an ass a little, it was an awsome game hats off to the stros, but i ve been a sox fan since i can remember and being a sox fans i just didnt want to count my chickens to early

[trey85stang]

Don't hate, man. The series isn't over.

I remember a while back, somebody was down 0-3 in some 7 game series and then came back to win the last 4 games. Can't quite remember who it was...Was it the '04 Red Sox? Nah...


It has never happened. No team has ever been down 3 games, 3 games into the series.. to come back for the win. It would make for one hell of a series if the Stros were able to pull that off though.

[190hp4banger]

It has never happened. No team has ever been down 3 games, 3 games into the series.. to come back for the win. It would make for one hell of a series if the Stros were able to pull that off though.

Didn't the Red Sox do that last year, or was that a League Series?

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Yeah, Boston did it last year in the ALCS and ended up popping off 8 consecutive wins, sweeping the Cardinals. It was the first time a team had ever come back from 3 games down in any 7 game series to win, so it still hasn't been done in a World Series.

[Jae11]

i knew people were going to say that, but its ok hang on to your only hope, remember though Garcia was one of the best pitchers the second half of the season and all 4 of the white sox studs are healthy, the odds are agianst the stros and a come back is not going to happen, espically after such a heartbreaking loss today, it just sucks the life out of the stros and the white sox still dont get enough credit

[trey85stang]

Yeah, Boston did it last year in the ALCS and ended up popping off 8 consecutive wins, sweeping the Cardinals. It was the first time a team had ever come back from 3 games down in any 7 game series to win, so it still hasn't been done in a World Series.

I was talking about the WS...but I did not know that Boston's 2004 run was the first time in League series though.

[Jae11]

actually that was the first time ever its happened in MLB postseason history and its happened only one other time in sports history which i think it was the NBA, so ya sure the stros have a chance and i have a chance to hit the lottery

[trey85stang]

actually that was the first time ever its happened in MLB postseason history and its happened only one other time in sports history which i think it was the NBA, so ya sure the stros have a chance and i have a chance to hit the lottery


I guess if there happens to be a Game 7 everyone should buy lottery tickets, lol :D

[Hollywood]

I'm glad I flew to Chicago in May to see them play this year. Just wished I could have made a World Series game.

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