Fall Festival

[89s-trim]

Anyone that have little ones will love this.
We are having a Fall Festival at our chrurch Saturday October 29, 2005.
It will be from 4 p.m. - 8 p.m.
Teaching Word Faith Center
7712 South Freeway (I-35W)
Fort Worth
There will be food, games, and music.
www.teachingword.org

[CHILLI PALMER]

Car Show at North Texas Nissan on 11/19/2005...2pm-4pm...its going to be awesome!

[2LO2GO]

Car Show at North Texas Nissan on 11/19/2005...2pm-4pm...its going to be awesome!



What The :confused:

[LadyD]

Car Show at North Texas Nissan on 11/19/2005...2pm-4pm...its going to be awesome!
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We will be going to the fall festival at our church tonight. I love it.

[DarkWolf]

Fall Festival's at churches amuse me. The irony... it's humorous.

[90dfw]

What ever happened to Halloween??

Its just a word people.What is the difference between "fall festival" and Halloween--nothing except the wording.Everytime I see a sign for fall festival I laugh my ass off.People need to stop being so sensitive about words.One of my neighbors would not let her kids go trick or treating because it is "the night of the devil", those are her words exactly.She even had the balls to call up most of the parents on our street to try and talk them out of letting their kids go trick or treating.Its not like the kids are running around chanting satan bible versus.Im willing to bet that in the next 10yrs Halloween will be a thing of the past.My sons school already calls it "fall festival day" and they can come to school dressed as story book charecters..I really feel sorry for todays youth having to grow up in such a de-sensitized world.

[LadyD]

What ever happened to Halloween??

Its just a word people.What is the difference between "fall festival" and Halloween--nothing except the wording.Everytime I see a sign for fall festival I laugh my ass off.People need to stop being so sensitive about words.One of my neighbors would not let her kids go trick or treating because it is "the night of the devil", those are her words exactly.She even had the balls to call up most of the parents on our street to try and talk them out of letting their kids go trick or treating.Its not like the kids are running around chanting satan bible versus.Im willing to bet that in the next 10yrs Halloween will be a thing of the past.My sons school already calls it "fall festival day" and they can come to school dressed as story book charecters..I really feel sorry for todays youth having to grow up in such a de-sensitized world.


we call our's the fallapalooza. And it is for halloween. the only purpose for us is to keep people off the streets. I agree that our kid's children will not know halloween. UNLESS we stand up and say something. Everything has to change because of all the diff religions and non religious people might get offended.

[90dfw]

we call our's the fallapalooza. And it is for halloween. the only purpose for us is to keep people off the streets. I agree that our kid's children will not know halloween. UNLESS we stand up and say something. Everything has to change because of all the diff religions and non religious people might get offended.
Thats the problem..This is AMERICA yet we are the ones having to change our way of life to fit in with the immigrints that come over here.We are so afraid to offend them.My son is in the 3rd grade and they have made spanish one of his classes.This is a VERY niec neighborhood,Blue ribbon school,ect..its not like its in the ghetto.If people want to come live here for a better life-FINE but dont expect us to change our ways so as not to hurt your little feelings.I am so tired of driving in parts of Dallas or ft worth and seeing nothing but spanish signs everywhere..This is american-ENGLISH learn how to speak it before coming over here.

[LadyD]

Thats the problem..This is AMERICA yet we are the ones having to change our way of life to fit in with the immigrints that come over here.We are so afraid to offend them.My son is in the 3rd grade and they have made spanish one of his classes.This is a VERY niec neighborhood,Blue ribbon school,ect..its not like its in the ghetto.If people want to come live here for a better life-FINE but dont expect us to change our ways so as not to hurt your little feelings.I am so tired of driving in parts of Dallas or ft worth and seeing nothing but spanish signs everywhere..This is american-ENGLISH learn how to speak it before coming over here.


I agree with you toally. It makes me So mad that I go to a fast food place and can not understand them or they me. I think that this country wich I love has bowed to other counrties and they are taking over in a sense. People that were born here get the shaft. But how is it going to change? No one ever does anything about it.

[90dfw]

I agree with you toally. It makes me So mad that I go to a fast food place and can not understand them or they me. I think that this country wich I love has bowed to other counrties and they are taking over in a sense. People that were born here get the shaft. But how is it going to change? No one ever does anything about it.
Happened to me this morning.I went through the jack in the crack drive through and couldnt understand anything the person was saying.Went inside and ended up having to point to the menus to ge what i wanted.
America needs to get tough again.Do you think If we started moving over to france that they would start changing their way of life around to make sure our feelings didnt get hurt-No way.

[LadyD]

But I doubt that it will happen. I would be the first to stand up and say something. But no one wants to follow I would not know where to start either. I want a better place for my children not a place where they are last.

[DarkWolf]

Halloween = Hallow + e'en/eve = Holy Eve/Night. Conceived by Christians in an attempt to transform traditional pagan holidays/festivals into Christian holidays, in the hopes of making it easier for pagans to accept Chrisitianity. (Pagan is defined as someone that dwells in the country. It is not a religion, nor is Paganism which is a completely fabricated word. Pagan religions include but are not limited to Wicca, Druidism, Shamanism, and yes even Christianity) Other examples of this early Christian method of converting pagans include Christmas = Yule, Easter = Ostara, Valentines Day = Lupercalia, Candlemas = Imbolc.

Fall Festival = Halloween = Samhain (pronounced Sow-in or Sah-ween), which is traditionally celebrated as the new year, the end of summer and beginning of winter. It was believed that the barrier seperating the world of the living, from the world of the dead, was thinnest at this time of the year. Rituals were practiced to both strengthen the barriers in order to keep evil spirits at bay, and the use of various foods as an offering to the good spirits so that they may continue to watch over the community in the coming year. If you didn't leave an offering, it was believed you would be plagued by bad luck through the year. Thus the origins of "Trick or Treat". This was also a time when the spirits of loved ones that passed away during the year were guided by candles into the otherworld... thus the origins of the term "follow the light" or "go into the light"

The irony of Fall Festival, is that the church is rejecting Halloween, which is in modern times seen as "the devils night", even though the Christian word "Hallowe'en" means "Holy Night". In modern times Halloween has been commercialized to the point that it only resembles the original festival in the barest symbolic forms (candles, jack-o-lanterns, trick or treating). Yet Fall Festival is now being adopted by many churches as an alternative to Halloween... and of course, Fall Festival more closely resembles the pagan traditions than the modern Halloween, what with all the candles in church's, prayers and rituals, giving of food and candy, music and dancing... rejecting commercial Halloween to embrace the pagan practices of Fall Festival/Samhain.

It makes me chuckle.

[Casper]

LMAO! It doesn't mean holy night.

It is short for "All Hallows Eve" or the day before all hallows day or all saints day, or Day of the Dead. All Saints day began around 300 CE as a feast of the martyrs of the catholic church, as a way to glorify the trinitarians and politically exclude those who were not, such as the Arians.

The fact that it coincided with the Celtic new Years celebration is more coincidental than planned, because it was popular before Celtic conversion to christianity. But their original New Years customs remained, especially the reverence of the dead souls. As the Saxon Christians adopted it later they incorporated scenery from Walpurgisnacht (Night of the witches who chased St Walpurgis, April30) and these little fusions from various European immigrants are what created American Halloween.

IOW, it was a bunch of no-english-speaking-eurotrash forcing their customs on everyone instead of assimilating and speaking English! LOL!

[DarkWolf]

LMAO! It doesn't mean holy night.

It is short for "All Hallows Eve" or the day before all hallows day or all saints day, or Day of the Dead. All Saints day began around 300 CE as a feast of the martyrs of the catholic church, as a way to glorify the trinitarians and politically exclude those who were not, such as the Arians.

The fact that it coincided with the Celtic new Years celebration is more coincidental than planned, because it was popular before Celtic conversion to christianity. But their original New Years customs remained, especially the reverence of the dead souls. As the Saxon Christians adopted it later they incorporated scenery from Walpurgisnacht (Night of the witches who chased St Walpurgis, April30) and these little fusions from various European immigrants are what created American Halloween.

IOW, it was a bunch of no-english-speaking-eurotrash forcing their customs on everyone instead of assimilating and speaking English! LOL!

Hallow = Holy
Eve = Night

I'm aware it's short for All Hallow's Eve... which is the equivalent of All Holy Night.

The "coincidence" of it being on the Celtic new year wasn't so much coincidence as you make it out to be. There's debate over when the Celts were actually converted to christianity. By Roman invasion, it would've been around 664 AD, however there are writings indicating Briton's conversion to Christianity some 400+ years earlier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Christianity

[Casper]

I was not aware of any wholesale conversion in the 3rd century. I know that the Iberians were very upset over the exclusion of certain saints on the feast day (ASD). IIRC this actually predated the council of Nicea but I could be mistaken.

But I don't believe that is why the feast was celebrated originally, or why it coincided with Celtic new years. But then again, coincidences have always been manipulated for gain, right?

[DarkWolf]

I was not aware of any wholesale conversion in the 3rd century. I know that the Iberians were very upset over the exclusion of certain saints on the feast day (ASD). IIRC this actually predated the council of Nicea but I could be mistaken.

But I don't believe that is why the feast was celebrated originally, or why it coincided with Celtic new years. But then again, coincidences have always been manipulated for gain, right?

I dunno that I'd go so far as to call it a wholesale conversion. As with any introduction of an opposing religion, there's dissidents. Thus it's not surprising some of the tactics the early church (or churches, in this case) employed in an effort to win over the masses. Of course, it wasn't until much later that they began using force to sway the masses... had to make sure they had a strong enough backing to begin with.

And it's certainly true that coincidences are manipulated for gain. Look at Christmas and Easter :)