06 ZX10r

[Evile753]

What does everybody think about the new ZX10????

http://www.bikeland.org/images/articles/2006-ZX10R/0610R02.jpg

http://www.bikeland.org/images/articles/2006-ZX10R/0610R06.jpg

[Evile753]

http://www.bikeland.org/images/articles/2006-ZX10R/0610R04.jpg

[Evile753]

http://www.bikeland.org/images/articles/2006-ZX10R/0610R05.jpg

[Txstang1]

that thing looks sweet. gotta love the green.

[poopnut2]

Not big on those colors. I'll take a white or black one. :D

[eastsidetorino]

I'm not too big on the headlights

[AnotherRedHead]

ugly and jank rear exh setup. Now they are gonna be like R1s where no one drag races them.

[ThreeFingerPete]

See, from the side, i thought it looked good, but I thought there was only one can in a highmount.

then i see the rearshot, and ACK. that doesn't look too good, althought the signals do.

[BlueLT1SS]

those are dirty looking tail lights. and the headlights just dont look right.

[Evile753]

those are dirty looking tail lights. and the headlights just dont look right.
They are trying to be like Suzuki.....They can't come up with there own shit....LOL

[BottleRocket]

YACK. That thing looks fat as shit. The old ZX10 looked somewhat sleek, if not jagged but still skinny. This thing looks like a pig, im sure its fast, but it just looks slow.

and whats up with the wanna-be K5 tail?

[Stephen]

the thing i dont like about kawasucki is when they are a couple of years old they look outdated. honda,suzuki, and yamaha all look good for several years after production

[BlueLT1SS]

They are trying to be like Suzuki.....They can't come up with there own shit....LOL
and suzuki is trying to look like ducati :D atleast suzuki made their integrated signals look good.

[joffer00]

i give it some credit though cuz it does look like the style thats out and i think it is gonna be for a while so i am not worried about the look going outdated.. I would like to have one anyways

[Super Coupe]

ugly and jank rear exh setup. Now they are gonna be like R1s where no one drag races them.

Refer to pic #4 I believe. That is what it is made to do. :rolleyes:

[evil jose]

I'm not digging it. Looks worse than last years model which I liked other than the silly digital dash. In particular the exhaust looks bad, reminds me of the Yamaha FZ6.

[evil jose]

Some info I've got from another website. Looks like Kawasaki finally got rid of the "all" digital gauge cluster.

Headlining the changes to an already potent powerplant is a boost in midrange torque brought on by a more efficient fuel-injection system. This system features 43mm throttle bodies with dual throttle valves, and its new "ultra-fine atomizing injectors" are claimed to offer improved combustion. Oddly, Kawasaki doesn't claim an increase in peak power from this new mill that has had its cylinder-bank angle slightly changed from 20 degrees to 23.

An interesting change to the new ZX is a heavier flywheel that is said to smooth the ferocious powerband of the previous engine, aided by its generator that moves from behind the cylinders to the crankshafts end, further adding mass to the rotating assembly. Revised engine-management mapping is claimed to reduce abruptness in throttle transitions, such as when reapplying gas when exiting corners, and a higher swingarm pivot location will theoretically transfer power to the rear tire more effectively.

An altered shift linkage is said to offer improved gear changes, and a lighter radiator graces the front end for increased cooling on the 996cc, DOHC, 16-valve fire-breather. Both the slipper clutch and petal-style brake rotors are back by popular demand.

The ZX-10R got stroked by past test riders for its agility and ability to rail corners, and Team Green has delved in deeper to extract a better handling package. A new frame delivers a new stiffness balance, and it cradles the engine higher in the chassis for enhanced mass centralization that is claimed to offer quicker roll response.

Details on rake and trail have not yet been released, though its 54.5-inch wheelbase remains the same. Its rear tire gets a larger diameter by switching from a 190/50 to a 190/55-17.

And Kawasaki has finally answered our prayers to address the ZX's few shortcomings. It has finally fitted a steering damper on the mighty beast, a spendy, twin-tube, adjustable Ohlins piece, no less.

And Kawi also has tossed the much maligned instrument cluster into the circular file and replaced it with a new gauge pack that has an analog tachometer combined with a digital speedo. Team Green claims some sort of new technology that gives the impression the cluster is further away, making it easier for eyes to transition from the focus of the road to that of the gauges. Its backlighting can be set to four levels of brightness.

[KevinH78]

Looks like ass IMO.


BTW, a little birdie told me there is a $1k rebate on all '05 ZX10's. :cool:

[GARS04]

It will dominate the streets again, like the 04's are still doing. Just keepin it real......... :D

And the black.........Oh yeah baby.......

[Super Coupe]

I think they are pimp.

[BpuTacoma]

Blah... forget the zx10r, the new r1 and the r6 is where it's at.

I can't wait to buy the new r6 with a 17,500 redline !!!!!!

[ScottJ]

Kawasakie styling has always confused me, sometimes on a particualr bike they nail the design then drag out some 15+ year old style for another portion of the bike. Its like their design team isn't unified in the project or something, I dunno. That bike does have some modern styling, but a pretty rough exhaust, fairing, and front end IMO.


--Scott

[BlueLT1SS]

the more i look at the bike, the more i see wrong with its design. lower fairing w/big exhaust cutout - ack!

[GARS04]

Blah... forget the zx10r, the new r1 and the r6 is where it's at.

I can't wait to buy the new r6 with a 17,500 redline !!!!!!

R1........lol. The R6 is Pimp and probably the more stylish of the 600's but the R1 is just slow....... :D

[GARS04]

the more i look at the bike, the more i see wrong with its design. lower fairing w/big exhaust cutout - ack!

You own a Triumph, and your talking about styling?? lololollolololol.

[BpuTacoma]

R1........lol. the R1 is just slow....... :D

i sense that was a biased statement...

it's going to be a hard choice, new r6 or a closeout special for a 04' zx10r....

how's a 10r compared to 636 ? comfortability and riding stance...

[GARS04]

i sense that was a biased statement...

it's going to be a hard choice, new r6 or a closeout special for a 04' zx10r....

how's a 10r compared to 636 ? comfortability and riding stance...

Im just kidding the ZX10 is faster but when your doing 140+ in the 1/4 and they all do..what's not fast about that.

I have not rode a 636, Not sure what the difference is. I am a huge fan of the R6, If I ever went back to a 600 it would be the R6 hands down, very smooth easy to ride bike.

[BpuTacoma]

i know your kidding !

curious how the 10r feels, i'm seriously thinking about one, but i rode a 636 and it seemed uncomfortable, maybe because my body hasn't adjusted to it or what. But my zx6r is comfy, nice relaxed riding position !

Go Green or Go Home ! Team Kawsaki !!! haha

[SHS Slugur]

The '04 ZX-10R looked much better.

[GARS04]

The '04 ZX-10R looked much better.

I love my 04, But im sooooooo getting that 06. Will start looking for it about March.

[AnotherRedHead]

I love my 04, But im sooooooo getting that 06. Will start looking for it about March.


you got that 04 stretched out again yet? When we gonna get some race on son?

[GARS04]

you got that 04 stretched out again yet? When we gonna get some race on son?

Nope, I's all stock again. It's retired, fought many battles and put down some damn good numbers for a stock bike. Time to chill till the 06's come out, then I'll come back out and put it on your ass for a third time........lol :D

[Super Coupe]

The rear of that bike will look much better after you take the mudflap off of it and you put aftermarket cans on it. I can bet on it. The front looks very simple a lot like what a raced out one would look like. I like that. And the overall stance of it says bring it biatch. It will look sweet once it gets a little TLC on the flap and exhaust.

[GARS04]

The rear of that bike will look much better after you take the mudflap off of it and you put aftermarket cans on it. I can bet on it. The front looks very simple a lot like what a raced out one would look like. I like that. And the overall stance of it says bring it biatch. It will look sweet once it gets a little TLC on the flap and exhaust.

All Im thinking is down 2" in the front and leveled in the back and it's very nice.

[AnotherRedHead]

stock man, stock! you havent even started up with that thing! so what are you doing with the 04 now?

[GARS04]

stock man, stock! you havent even started up with that thing! so what are you doing with the 04 now?

Just riding it back and forth to work and on the weekends, going to try to sell it shortly.

[tribaltalon]

i dont know why people bitch about the exhaust on any bike. its not like its gonna stay like that long, just about anybody that actually rides is going to put on an aftermarket (and much better looking) exhaust on along with an undertail kit. the bike looks baller, the real question for me is did they do anything about the weak frames???

[BottleRocket]

i dont know why people bitch about the exhaust on any bike. its not like its gonna stay like that long, just about anybody that actually rides is going to put on an aftermarket (and much better looking) exhaust on along with an undertail kit. the bike looks baller, the real question for me is did they do anything about the weak frames???


I havent changed my exhaust. I dont see the point really. I want to learn to ride what I have before I go adding more power (especially at the cost). Im happy with my bike as is in the power department, I just want to work on the suspension and brakes

[Ktulu]

the 04's look much better imo

[Super Coupe]

I havent changed my exhaust. I dont see the point really. I want to learn to ride what I have before I go adding more power (especially at the cost). Im happy with my bike as is in the power department, I just want to work on the suspension and brakes

Only reason I have aftermarket exhaust is because its way lighter then the bull crap thing that came on it stock. Oh and it sounds cool. After you set up your suspension to the way you want it a bone stock bike is more than enough for anyone on this board maybe with the exception of nick cause he is a big baller.

[BottleRocket]

Only reason I have aftermarket exhaust is because its way lighter then the bull crap thing that came on it stock. Oh and it sounds cool. After you set up your suspension to the way you want it a bone stock bike is more than enough for anyone on this board maybe with the exception of nick cause he is a big baller.


yeah, luckily Yamaha graced us with Titanium exhaust from the factory, so whatever you put on it isnt much lighter (1 or 2lbs). I like the sound of aftermarket exhaust, but for the price I'd much rather get some gearing and new brake lines

[bucky]

Still like the 12R better.

[AnotherRedHead]

exhaust isnt that much money. if you want to get into serious parts your gonna spend some cash, ie carbon wheels, mag wheels, any kind of motor mods, electronics, and even road race parts, forks, rearsets, shocks. almost everything i listed cept for rearsets is gonna cost more than a decent exhaust. And a stock bike isnt enough for anyone, thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. I mean come on, its just like a car, whats the crap about set up your suspension and stock will be so fast, come on who doesnt like some extra ponies? I want my bike to pull faster and harder than the one next to me, and theres only one way to do that. Add, hp. I dunno where everyone got on this craze that extra hp is bad on a bike, you wont be able to control it. Get your panties out of your butt crack and get the feel of some power. Any REAL rider will ride whatever, 600 or a big hp busa, and he can appreciate both. There is no "right" way of riding, whether it be RR or DR, cause when its you VS homie with the exhaust are gunning it out on the final straight, your gonna wish you had those extra HP. So dont dog on me cause I like a little bit of HP. You take your turns fast and I'll ride the HP and spin at the 1000ft mark.

[Super Coupe]

exhaust isnt that much money. if you want to get into serious parts your gonna spend some cash, ie carbon wheels, mag wheels, any kind of motor mods, electronics, and even road race parts, forks, rearsets, shocks. almost everything i listed cept for rearsets is gonna cost more than a decent exhaust. And a stock bike isnt enough for anyone, thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard. I mean come on, its just like a car, whats the crap about set up your suspension and stock will be so fast, come on who doesnt like some extra ponies? I want my bike to pull faster and harder than the one next to me, and theres only one way to do that. Add, hp. I dunno where everyone got on this craze that extra hp is bad on a bike, you wont be able to control it. Get your panties out of your butt crack and get the feel of some power. Any REAL rider will ride whatever, 600 or a big hp busa, and he can appreciate both. There is no "right" way of riding, whether it be RR or DR, cause when its you VS homie with the exhaust are gunning it out on the final straight, your gonna wish you had those extra HP. So dont dog on me cause I like a little bit of HP. You take your turns fast and I'll ride the HP and spin at the 1000ft mark.

You sir are talking out of your azz. Who the crap cares if you have more hp. You drag race. That's the name of the game. Whoever has the most power wins. Funk that I will smoke your azz in some turns and even throw in the big straightaways cause you won't have the nutz to go into the next corner haulin some major azz. And you don't think I can't spin the tire on a road coarse? Shoot son you better recognize. That is where the real men play. A stock bike is enough for anyone pretty much. At the end of the drag strip are you sliding that mofo down into return road turn off with a knee on the ground? Hell no you aren't so you aren't using all of the bike. You are just using its hp. Big woop. :rolleyes:

[BottleRocket]

You sir are talking out of your azz. Who the crap cares if you have more hp. You drag race. That's the name of the game. Whoever has the most power wins. Funk that I will smoke your azz in some turns and even throw in the big straightaways cause you won't have the nutz to go into the next corner haulin some major azz. And you don't think I can't spin the tire on a road coarse? Shoot son you better recognize. That is where the real men play. A stock bike is enough for anyone pretty much. At the end of the drag strip are you sliding that mofo down into return road turn off with a knee on the ground? Hell no you aren't so you aren't using all of the bike. You are just using its hp. Big woop. :rolleyes:


ahahahha OWN3D

[DFWminis]

man you people find more crap to argue about lol

[Monsoon X]

HAHAHAHAHHA Grabs Popcorn---------Big woop

[GARS04]

You sir are talking out of your azz. Who the crap cares if you have more hp. You drag race. That's the name of the game. Whoever has the most power wins. Funk that I will smoke your azz in some turns and even throw in the big straightaways cause you won't have the nutz to go into the next corner haulin some major azz. And you don't think I can't spin the tire on a road coarse? Shoot son you better recognize. That is where the real men play. A stock bike is enough for anyone pretty much. At the end of the drag strip are you sliding that mofo down into return road turn off with a knee on the ground? Hell no you aren't so you aren't using all of the bike. You are just using its hp. Big woop. :rolleyes:

Your a dumbshit as well if you don't recognize there two different skillz. ;)

[Monsoon X]

Your a dumbshit as well if you don't recognize there two different skillz. ;)


RR skills > DR skills :p

[BlueLT1SS]

RR skills > DR skills :p
x2

going in a straight line on a bike is boring

[BlueLT1SS]

Your a dumbshit as well if you don't recognize there two different skillz. ;)
i wouldnt say its two different skills. drag racing is by no means easy, but its just the beginning of a road race. from the start they are drag racing just to see who get in the lead and then it becomes a road race. so, yes, drag racing takes skill, but not nearly as much as road racing does.

[GARS04]

RR skills > DR skills :p

Your not getting me started today........ :D

[spankustang]

x2

going in a straight line on a bike is boring

Not if it's fast!!!! :rolleyes:

[GARS04]

i wouldnt say its two different skills. drag racing is by no means easy, but its just the beginning of a road race. from the start they are drag racing just to see who get in the lead and then it becomes a road race. so, yes, drag racing takes skill, but not nearly as much as road racing does.

No dingleberry, what they do at the beggining of a road race is far from drag racing.....if you lined them up on there tall ass bikes and put Ryan shcnitz right next to them on a slammed bike who do you think would make it to the turn first???

You guys gotta think before you talk. ;)

[BlueLT1SS]

well of course there are different setups for drag racing, but they do have a green light they are all waiting for and when it hits green they dont slightly turn the throttle and give the person on their right the right-a-way. theyre all drag racing to the first turn, THEN the road racing starts. come on gars, i know its still early, but WAKE UP! :)

[GARS04]

well of course there are different setups for drag racing, but they do have a green light they are all waiting for and when it hits green they dont slightly turn the throttle and give the person on their right the right-a-way. theyre all drag racing to the first turn, THEN the road racing starts. come on gars, i know its still early, but WAKE UP! :)

I am awake and your talking out of your ass, again. Please tell me your not sooooo retarded that you can't see the difference Mark.

What your referencing as drag racing and what kind of skill level it takes to compete in drag racing are two different things, You don't stand a chance on my level of drag racing like I probably don't stand a chance on JC's level of cornering........there two different skills homie......you can't compare them at all.

I forgot the smiley cause your not pissing me off, Im tired and sick today. :D

[BlueLT1SS]

youre ill in the head :p its cool, we are entitiled our own opinions

[Super Coupe]

Your a dumbshit as well if you don't recognize there two different skillz. ;)

Yeah I know one just takes more then the other.

[Monsoon X]

lemme put it this way.

Drag race skills (not including bike set up)- Requires good clutch/throttle work/shifting at WOT and body positioning.

Road race- Requires good clutch/throttle work/shifting at WOT and body positioning.
WOT into whatever place you have stored in your memory to start your downshifting and braking and getting your body ready to turn. Doing all this while braking hard with lotsa G's on your elbows. Knowing your line, trail braking while possibly avoiding the guy in front of you........oh so much more skill is required. And that's just my little no skills having self. Let's not talk about how much is required to find a marker at 180mph, brake/downshift/turn while still braking and backing it into the corner, take the corner at 80mph blah, blah, blah................I'm just trying to start an argument.

[GARS04]

lemme put it this way.

Drag race skills (not including bike set up)- Requires good clutch/throttle work/shifting at WOT and body positioning.

Road race- Requires good clutch/throttle work/shifting at WOT and body positioning.
WOT into whatever place you have stored in your memory to start your downshifting and braking and getting your body ready to turn. Doing all this while braking hard with lotsa G's on your elbows. Knowing your line, trail braking while possibly avoiding the guy in front of you........oh so much more skill is required. And that's just my little no skills having self. Let's not talk about how much is required to find a marker at 180mph, brake/downshift/turn while still braking and backing it into the corner, take the corner at 80mph blah, blah, blah................I'm just trying to start an argument.

You hit 180 mph?

[GARS04]

Yeah I know one just takes more then the other.

Im not even going to waste my typing skillz with you, your retarded and even YOU know it..... :D

[Cmarsh93z]

Both are very hard skillz that are very different from each other. If you fail to realize the complexity of both, you prob haven't tryed very hard at either one.

Chris

[Super Coupe]

I hit just a tad over 100 mph I think at oak hill coming off of one and going into turn two. 100mph hard on the brakes and you can feel the mofo dance around on you sometimes if you are really going in hard. Start leaning over while you are still hard on the brakes. Knee on the ground you are still slowing down. Apex now I am on the throttle. Sit it up and get ready because you are about to do it many more times.

I think if you hopped on a race prepped R6 and went to the road coarse one time it would be all over and you would see what all the fuss is about. I don't know a single person who has tried road racing and still like drag racing more unless they completly sucked and never gave it a chance.

[Super Coupe]

Both are very hard skillz that are very different from each other. If you fail to realize the complexity of both, you prob haven't tryed very hard at either one.

Chris

I've done both so my opinion is not bias.

[Cmarsh93z]

I've done both so my opinion is not bias.

Thats nice...didn't you drag race an r6? What did you run on it, 60's, 330's...ect

Chris

[Cmarsh93z]

And Im not speaking on the level where you "take your bike to Kennadale and run it a few times", or "I can lay a knee down".

Chris

[Super Coupe]

Thats nice...didn't you drag race an r6? What did you run on it, 60's, 330's...ect

Chris

No it's a 636. My bike is stock so it's not going to lay down impressive #'s. 6.9 is what it runs. I don't see many stock heigth bike running much faster if any so it does ok. 1.78 60ft. I'm not saying im super bad azz fast at drag racing but I can hold my own in the stock heigth class.

[Super Coupe]

And Im not speaking on the level where you "take your bike to Kennadale and run it a few times", or "I can lay a knee down".

Chris

I'm not either. You have to have money to go fast in drag racing. I don't have the money for a freakin zx10 or a freaking busa. I will have my pictures pretty soon of me laying down a knee so you can judge for yourself on that. I not slow I know that but Im not fast like some people. Im in the middle I guess.

[Cmarsh93z]

Tamestang...im not doggin you, but you really haven't even scratched the surface of drag racing. As in ANY sport, there are different levels that people compete on...and motorcycles are one of those. With my experiance, I would venture to say that both ROAD RACING and DRAG RACING are both as complex as anything you could possibly do out there. Each is COMPLETELY different and requires different skills, equipment and training....but thats if you want to compete at the top level.

Is soccer harder than football??? Could a pro football player play a world cup soccer game, could a Lance Armstrong compete in the super bowl??? Hell no, when you strive to be the best at what you do, then each dicipline requires the utmost in skill and training. Same with drag racing and road racing.

Now, you might like one more than the other and think its the coolest thing in the world...but to say one is easier or requires less skill......I just laugh :)

Chris

[Cmarsh93z]

And to tell you the truth, I have never road raced in my life....but I have ridden enough bikes, and I am smart(open minded) enough to realize that road racing would require complete control over your bike, mind and body. So I respect that skill, not dog it because I don't do it or can't afford it.

Chris

[Super Coupe]

Tamestang...im not doggin you, but you really haven't even scratched the surface of drag racing. As in ANY sport, there are different levels that people compete on...and motorcycles are one of those. With my experiance, I would venture to say that both ROAD RACING and DRAG RACING are both as complex as anything you could possibly do out there. Each is COMPLETELY different and requires different skills, equipment and training....but thats if you want to compete at the top level.

Is soccer harder than football??? Could a pro football player play a world cup soccer game, could a Lance Armstrong compete in the super bowl??? Hell no, when you strive to be the best at what you do, then each dicipline requires the utmost in skill and training. Same with drag racing and road racing.

Now, you might like one more than the other and think its the coolest thing in the world...but to say one is easier or requires less skill......I just laugh :)

Chris

Well from the time I started to drag race my bike I have only improved 1 tenth of a second from the very first pass I've ever made. That was within the first month I've ever owned my bike. In road racing I've prolly knocked about 30 seconds off my time since I've started. There's only so much you can do in drag racing. I'm not dogging drag racing because you will see me at the strip all the time tearin it up. Its fun don't get me wrong but there is only so much you can do.

[Monsoon X]

You hit 180 mph?

that would be the Superbike Racers (not me) :D

[Monsoon X]

any yahoo can twist the throttle and shift..................:p


<------------still trying to start an arguement

[BlueLT1SS]

yahoo...haha

[Cmarsh93z]

any yahoo can twist the throttle and shift..................:p


<------------still trying to start an arguement

You just like road racing because it give you a chance to take your nice R1 off roading and play in the dirt :P :P

C

[Monsoon X]

You just like road racing because it give you a chance to take your nice R1 off roading and play in the dirt :P :P

C

I was chasing a bunny! I almost caught that little thing too. :mad:

[AnotherRedHead]

Well from the time I started to drag race my bike I have only improved 1 tenth of a second from the very first pass I've ever made. That was within the first month I've ever owned my bike.


Thats because, like they already said, you've merely scratched the surface of drag racing. I know a couple 636s than run in the low 6s in the 1/8th. You might make some more improvement if you had a different perspective towards drag racing in the first place. That being said, Mladin isnt running pro stock NHRA, and Matt Hines isnt running MotoGP either.....two different people, trained in different areas, on different bikes. But your right, it takes some cash to be fast in drag racing, just like in a car, this was my entire argument, you need more HP! :)

[GARS04]

I was chasing a bunny! I almost caught that little thing too. :mad:

Maybe next time.........lol

[GARS04]

I've done both so my opinion is not bias.


Your an idiot..........lol

[grape]

you guys are giving pro stock driving or riding anybody, way too much credit. Slider clutches take the guess work out of all of that stuff. Going fast on a street radial weather it's a car or a bike never gets the credit it should for being as difficult as it really is. There is no way you could take Angelle put her on a street bike and see anything spectacular, same with the bitch enders driving the pro-stock car, put her in a stock six speed f body on goodyear F1's and see what you get, mid 2.30 60 ft's at best.

[BottleRocket]

Your an idiot..........lol


thats fucking ironic...


your :rolleyes:

[AnotherRedHead]

you guys are giving pro stock driving or riding anybody, way too much credit. Slider clutches take the guess work out of all of that stuff. Going fast on a street radial weather it's a car or a bike never gets the credit it should for being as difficult as it really is. There is no way you could take Angelle put her on a street bike and see anything spectacular, same with the bitch enders driving the pro-stock car, put her in a stock six speed f body on goodyear F1's and see what you get, mid 2.30 60 ft's at best.


it may be true for some riders, but there are many exceptions to the rule, I know PLENTY of bike racers that can hop on street bikes and throw down serious #'s. Take Shine for example, Keith Dennis for you non bikers. He rides pro stock, and he can do the damn thang on some stock busas, 600s, pretty much whatever he hops on. You seen the article in motorcyclist.Ryan Schnitz is another, I cant even think about how many championships he's won on different kinds of motorcycles, most of them, hand clutch. Chip Ellis, is another, 9.10 on stock wheelbase 05 gixxer. Those are just a few examples of Pro Stock riders that have left hand talent....not everything is thrown away with a MULTI STAGE. Sorry grape Pro Stock doesnt allow sliders....

[Super Coupe]

Thats because, like they already said, you've merely scratched the surface of drag racing. I know a couple 636s than run in the low 6s in the 1/8th. You might make some more improvement if you had a different perspective towards drag racing in the first place. That being said, Mladin isnt running pro stock NHRA, and Matt Hines isnt running MotoGP either.....two different people, trained in different areas, on different bikes. But your right, it takes some cash to be fast in drag racing, just like in a car, this was my entire argument, you need more HP! :)

Yeah well I bet their mods are a little more then just a slip on. :rolleyes:

[Super Coupe]

Your an idiot..........lol

Really? hmmmm. :D

[GARS04]

thats fucking ironic...


your :rolleyes:

Go do some more Wheelies in traffic on 75, take a video camera this time........ :D

[GARS04]

Yeah well I bet their mods are a little more then just a slip on. :rolleyes:

No, Nick knows people! Who? NICK COX....who?? NICK COX! :D

[Super Coupe]

Go do some more Wheelies in traffic on 75, take a video camera this time........ :D

He can wheelie?

[AnotherRedHead]

See yall still know Im your daddys

[Beenfetchedlately]

Refer to pic #4 I believe. That is what it is made to do. :rolleyes:Hey dumbshit...Its drag racing, not dragging a knee he is talking about. :rolleyes:

[BottleRocket]

Go do some more Wheelies in traffic on 75, take a video camera this time........ :D


dont wheelie and dont ride on 75 all that much, dont know who the fuck youre talking to

[grape]

Sorry grape Pro Stock doesnt allow sliders....

you are sad, you really think those guys are dumping the clutch without setting the air gap, base pressure and counter weight? Read your rule book again, cause i just read mine.......... :rolleyes:


On a side note, just what exactly do you need to start your turbo'd bike, because i think i might know?

[the spindoctor]

quick question: how many of you that think that drag racing is harder have actually done a track day?

[GARS04]

quick question: how many of you that think that drag racing is harder have actually done a track day?

Nobody says it's harder, I'm telling you it takes a different skill. On that note, how many of you saying road racing is harder have ever sprayed a 80 shot full throttle out of the hole on a 1/8 mile........different man, Just different.....nobody says ones harder than the other, except you road racing guys. ;)

[AnotherRedHead]

you are sad, you really think those guys are dumping the clutch without setting the air gap, base pressure and counter weight? Read your rule book again, cause i just read mine.......... :rolleyes:


On a side note, just what exactly do you need to start your turbo'd bike, because i think i might know?


Are you sad, or do you not know what a slider is? LOL Its a multi stage lockup, they dont allow sliders in prostock. Quit trying to sound technical, trying lol. They are prostock teams, im sure they set the static(base pressure), have the right springs in the lockup(counterweight), and set the stack hieght( air gap on lockup arms) we can all do it hahahah read your user manual again. :)

[Super Coupe]

Nobody says it's harder, I'm telling you it takes a different skill. On that note, how many of you saying road racing is harder have ever sprayed a 80 shot full throttle out of the hole on a 1/8 mile........different man, Just different.....nobody says ones harder than the other, except you road racing guys. ;)

If had a liter bike that would compete with you and gars it would only take me a couple weeks and I would be able to run with yall on equal bikes no doubt in my mind.

[grape]

[QUOTE=AnotherRedHead] have the right springs in the lockup(counterweight), QUOTE]

Explain where you put your springs on the fingers of your clutch...... :rolleyes: You obviously have some form of trick clutch i've never seen.


Have you ever squared a pressure plate on a slider clutch, do you even know what they are doing, same as a pro stock car. you obviously don't know what a slider is, damn you are too dumb to have a conversation with. Ever wonder what that giant fucking box full of aluminum nuts and bolts of all different weights is for?

[636ryder]

Well back to the original subject of the post, that right there( the design capability of kawasaki) is y im officially converting to a yamaha for 06. That way i can drag big rich like i did back in the day w/ the 636. :D Actually i got my ass handed to me more times than anyone else when he had his R6, but thats ok ill make a comeback.

[grape]

and set the stack hieght( air gap on lockup arms) :)

i just realized you don't know what the air gap is, it's the distance set between the first disk and the pressure plate at full depression of the clutch on the stop. Air gap has nothing to do with the fingers.........or arms in your clutch.

[Super Coupe]

Well back to the original subject of the post, that right there( the design capability of kawasaki) is y im officially converting to a yamaha for 06. That way i can drag big rich like i did back in the day w/ the 636. :D Actually i got my ass handed to me more times than anyone else when he had his R6, but thats ok ill make a comeback.

How are you gonna lose to an R6?

[Nick Chapman]

Only one way to settle this drag racing/road racing debate ;) :D

Tamestang against Nick COX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[BlueLT1SS]

Only one way to settle this drag racing/road racing debate ;) :D

Tamestang against Nick COX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
in on 3 and grabbing popcorn

[Super Coupe]

Only one way to settle this drag racing/road racing debate ;) :D

Tamestang against Nick COX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

If we had two identical bikes I'd say lets go for it.

[636ryder]

How did i lose to gars on his r6 u ask? Well as i found out...bein strapped helps a whole hell of a lot and when i 1st ran him it was at night and his bike was black and it wasnt the brightest of areas, so i didnt c the straps. On top of that, ill give him props like i always have, he could race the hell outta that bike and he still can on his 10R. Im prolly gonna stay in the 600 class, but who knows i might get a R1 and c if i can take him on it. :D

[Super Coupe]

How did i lose to gars on his r6 u ask? Well as i found out...bein strapped helps a whole hell of a lot and when i 1st ran him it was at night and his bike was black and it wasnt the brightest of areas, so i didnt c the straps. On top of that, ill give him props like i always have, he could race the hell outta that bike and he still can on his 10R. Im prolly gonna stay in the 600 class, but who knows i might get a R1 and c if i can take him on it. :D

Yeah that would help. You ever get any passes on yours at the track?

[AnotherRedHead]

Grape, you truly are a moron arent you??? Youve been lying to us the whole time with your antics, havent you? I guess I do have some MAGIC clutch you've never seen before LOL The same one all pro stock uses

The counterweight mass isnt gonna change much from bike to bike at all since they are running the same HP all it does is apply its mass to the clutch pack, the springs in the center of the lockup dictate what part of the track each set of lockup arms is applying pressure. The lockup arms have to be set with stack height, they need to be leveled, and then set .100-.125 from the puck on the top of the pressure plate, not by moving the arms, but by changing steels in the stack. Your static spring pressure is the springs in the center of the hub. 60ft is all static, its the most common thing to change on a multistage setup.

Yea, a slider utilizes NO clutch lever whatsoever, it uses inertia and rpm dictated rotating forces to apply pressure. Set the launch rpm point with the springs on the hat of the slider, you just twist the gas and they go, NO clutch handle. They are self contained clutch units, the pressure plate (hat) doesnt move from the basket, its fixed. Thats the only kinds of sliders Ive played with....and Im talking about a real SLIDER, not some slipper unit behind a hub on a gp bike cheese tots....

[Nick Chapman]

cheese tots....


Mmmmmmmmmm Cheese tots :D Chili cheese tots :D mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[BlueLT1SS]

give me your tots!

[Monsoon X]

give me your tots!

no, get your own

[BlueLT1SS]

i havent friggin eating anything all day! gosh!

[Evile753]

I'm about to eat and I have a little hang over....

[636ryder]

yea, i ran it at the track after i modded it. Mods bein full yosh sys and pcIII and 3 up on the back sprocket. The best I have pulled out so far was a 7.2, i always start sidewalkin it when i launch outta the hole. Thats rider error, but i dunno i prefer the not so legit drag racin, cuz ppl at the track that run hi 6's i can keep w/in a 1/2 bikes distance of em or beat em, so i kno if i could do as good at the track as i do on the street my time would b a hell of a lot better.

[grape]

Yea, a slider utilizes NO clutch lever whatsoever, it uses inertia and rpm dictated rotating forces to apply pressure. Set the launch rpm point with the springs on the hat of the slider, you just twist the gas and they go, NO clutch handle. They are self contained clutch units, the pressure plate (hat) doesnt move from the basket, its fixed. Thats the only kinds of sliders Ive played with....and Im talking about a real SLIDER, not some slipper unit behind a hub on a gp bike cheese tots....


The most "notable" slider I've played with qualified 2nd in pro-stock truck at Indy in 2000, where were you?

The fact that you say you adjust air gap with floater thickness proves you've never played with a slider......A lock up maybe, but not a slider.......A real slider has towers that are adjustable with the base springs inside the towers with a pre-load screw.

Your explanation has lots of merit, Is that why pro stock cars and fuel cars with slider clutches don't have clutch pedals either............keep talking and I'm sure you'll teach me a few things. :rolleyes:

On a side note........did you build your turbo header or not, i have lot's of pm's that state otherwise.

And you still didn't answer me as to why your DFI bike won't run......will it even start, or are you missing some figures? It would be hillarious if i could make it run in less than 5 seconds with the laptop.

[Super Coupe]

yea, i ran it at the track after i modded it. Mods bein full yosh sys and pcIII and 3 up on the back sprocket. The best I have pulled out so far was a 7.2, i always start sidewalkin it when i launch outta the hole. Thats rider error, but i dunno i prefer the not so legit drag racin, cuz ppl at the track that run hi 6's i can keep w/in a 1/2 bikes distance of em or beat em, so i kno if i could do as good at the track as i do on the street my time would b a hell of a lot better.

Last time I ran on the street was at luna as I was smokin this gixxer 600. I hit a freakin patch of dirt on the side of the road or someting in second and the mofo went straight to the rev limiter. Funk that I'll stick to the track now. :o

[AnotherRedHead]

The most "notable" slider I've played with qualified 2nd in pro-stock truck at Indy in 2000, where were you?

The fact that you say you adjust air gap with floater thickness proves you've never played with a slider......A lock up maybe, but not a slider.......A real slider has towers that are adjustable with the base springs inside the towers with a pre-load screw.

Your explanation has lots of merit, Is that why pro stock cars and fuel cars with slider clutches don't have clutch pedals either............keep talking and I'm sure you'll teach me a few things. :rolleyes:

On a side note........did you build your turbo header or not, i have lot's of pm's that state otherwise.

And you still didn't answer me as to why your DFI bike won't run......will it even start, or are you missing some figures? It would be hillarious if i could make it run in less than 5 seconds with the laptop.


Now we are getting into cars and trucks?? LOL Give me a break dude...get real....when did I say a damn word about some cars? I didnt. Im sure you could call a slider in a car something different, and I will be the first to admit, I havent used a multi disc clutch in a car besides a twin disc. But you and I both know what we were talking about, we were talking about pro stock bike.
The DFI bike does run, it is mapped for 6 psi of boost 230rwhp std. The transient throttle and some tables that are beyond me (tau vs. map etc) need to be looked into. Im waiting for Job to tune it and then I'll know its right. Full throttle mapping and some drivability is not hard to do, but Job can do it in his sleep, and I wont ever wonder if the tune could be better. Thats what Im waiting on....

haha I just noticed the year 2000. that was 5 years ago, you moved on to bigger and better things like DFWstangs huh? LOL http://www.psychobike.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/2thumbs.gif

[636ryder]

Ive pretty much given up drag racin period, dont get me wrong its fun and what not, but its always the same ppl racin whether it b at the track or at the illegal ones that ppl frequent. So there's no point really since u kno who u can beat and who u cant and since there's no new comp comin up it gets boring.

[AnotherRedHead]

People dont change their combos or get faster? Your silly! Ive gained .40 off my 1K's 1/8th since I purchased!