View Full Version : Dang, she'd fit right in here...
01WhiteCobra
08-18-2005, 09:22 AM
Not her thoughts... just the way she put them. :D
CINDY UNLEASHED: 'THE BIGGEST TERRORIST IN THE WORLD IS GEORGE W. BUSH'
Wed Aug 17 2005 21:51:56 ET
"We are not waging a war on terror in this country. We’re waging a war of terror. The biggest terrorist in the world is George W. Bush!"
So declared Cindy Sheehan earlier this year during a rally at San Francisco State University.
Sheehan, who is demanding a second meeting with Bush, stated: "We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now."
Sheehan unleashed a foul-mouth tirade on April 27, 2005:
"They’re a bunch of fucking hypocrites! And we need to, we just need to rise up..." Sheehan said of the Bush administration.
"If George Bush believes his rhetoric and his bullshit, that this is a war for freedom and democracy, that he is spreading freedom and democracy, does he think every person he kills makes Iraq more free?"
"The whole world is damaged. Our humanity is damaged. If he thinks that it’s so important for Iraq to have a U.S.-imposed sense of freedom and democracy, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go to this war."
"We want our country back and, if we have to impeach everybody from George Bush down to the person who picks up dog shit in Washington, we will impeach all those people."
END
Jester
08-18-2005, 09:27 AM
Will someone just shoot that crazy bitch in the head already!!!??? Her son needs to come back from the dead and knock the shit out of her.
TexasDevilDog
08-18-2005, 09:29 AM
She is wrong.
Paladin
08-18-2005, 09:33 AM
She is the epitome of the hard core left.
Fixed
Larius
08-18-2005, 09:33 AM
Isn't joining the military right now completely on a voluntary basis? Her son made the choice to join the military. I saw where she wanted George W. to appologize for killing her son. Completely rediculous, she just ruined her sons memory.
Jester
08-18-2005, 09:36 AM
Isn't joining the military right now completely on a voluntary basis? Her son made the choice to join the military. I saw where she wanted George W. to appologize for killing her son. Completely rediculous, she just ruined her sons memory.
exactly right. My mother had 3 sons all in the military. 2 went to war with me missing it because of surgery.....she would not ruin our memories if we died. She would proudly say that we fought for other's freedom. That we fought to give people a taste of the American way that so many take for granted.
We are for women's rights here but not there...
We are for the right to vote here but not there...
We are for human rights here but not there...
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
Isn't joining the military right now completely on a voluntary basis? Her son made the choice to join the military. I saw where she wanted George W. to appologize for killing her son. Completely rediculous, she just ruined her sons memory.
To join yes, to stay in NO! They are keeping people well past the end of their contract, and changing the maximum time in grade to keep others.
To join yes, to stay in NO! They are keeping people well past the end of their contract, and changing the maximum time in grade to keep others.
Which their contract says they can do...
Which their contract says they can do...
Actually the contract is for 8 years AL, there are others being kept past those 8 years.......since all the people who are for the war seem to keep driving right past the recuriters office.
Jester
08-18-2005, 09:42 AM
To join yes, to stay in NO! They are keeping people well past the end of their contract, and changing the maximum time in grade to keep others.
Bullshit. Turn off the liberal news. We have thousands volunteering to go over and no need for people to stay past their time.........a little known fact is that your time is 2 years past the time you actually get out......you can be called back for service.
Bullshit. Turn off the liberal news. We have thousands volunteering to go over and no need for people to stay past their time.
Bullshit back to you.....I am not getting this from the liberal news, but from friends of mine that I was in the service with. The Military is putting them on stop loss, meaning that even if they are close to their original ETS date they cannot get out as their unit is on orders to go to Iraq, I believe it is within the next 6 months than they put the unit on stop loss.
I also had a friend who was due to Retire, but when the extended the TIS for his rank they denied his retirement.
exactly right. My mother had 3 sons all in the military. 2 went to war with me missing it because of surgery.....she would not ruin our memories if we died. She would proudly say that we fought for other's freedom. That we fought to give people a taste of the American way that so many take for granted.
Shouldn't that read "They" and not "we" since you didn't go?
Jester
08-18-2005, 09:49 AM
Bullshit back to you.....I am not getting this from the liberal news, but from friends of mine that I was in the service with. The Military is putting them on stop loss, meaning that even if they are close to their original ETS date they cannot get out as their unit is on orders to go to Iraq, I believe it is within the next 6 months than they put the unit on stop loss.
I also had a friend who was due to Retire, but when the extended the TIS for his rank they denied his retirement.
Like I said, you may be due to get out in 06, but you are actually not free of service for 2 years after. I served 6 years active with 2 years inactive and got called at 3 months til I was completely out.
Jester
08-18-2005, 09:51 AM
Shouldn't that read "They" and not "we" since you didn't go?
No, it shouldn't since "I" trained the men going over there. Are you trying to say that I did not sacrifice, that my family did not go without me, that even though I, as well as thousands of other soldiers that are in state, are not at war? LMAO.....get real.
Actually the contract is for 8 years AL, there are others being kept past those 8 years.......since all the people who are for the war seem to keep driving right past the recuriters office.
So none of the people who are signing up today are for the war? Do you honestly think that or were you just being a dumbass?
Paladin
08-18-2005, 10:11 AM
Actually the contract is for 8 years AL, there are others being kept past those 8 years.......since all the people who are for the war seem to keep driving right past the recuriters office.
Every service except the Army met their quotas. And they have always struggled to meet those during war times.
Jester
08-18-2005, 10:14 AM
Every service except the Army met their quotas. And they have always struggled to meet those during war times.
It is because ARMY stands for Aint Ready to be a Marine Yet. :D
TexasDevilDog
08-18-2005, 10:20 AM
....In related news, the grieving woman's agent said that tonight's vigil will include an appearance by Sen. John Kerry, D-MA, who will throw her son's military medals over the fence at the Bush ranch.
:D
Jester
08-18-2005, 10:20 AM
:D
LMAO!
TexasDevilDog
08-18-2005, 10:21 AM
Every service except the Army met their quotas. And they have always struggled to meet those during war times.
Maybe if the Army gave more training then they wouldn't have a bad rep during war time. :D
Jester
08-18-2005, 10:22 AM
Maybe if the Army gave more training then they wouldn't have a bad rep during war time. :D
Das right......DAS RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!-Dave Chappelle :D
Matt93Cobra
08-18-2005, 10:23 AM
What a hypocritcal CUNT.
Like I said, you may be due to get out in 06, but you are actually not free of service for 2 years after. I served 6 years active with 2 years inactive and got called at 3 months til I was completely out.
That is the same thing I said before, with the exception that they are moving out TIS to allow them to keep people past the 8 years now.
So none of the people who are signing up today are for the war? Do you honestly think that or were you just being a dumbass?
Actually we have had quite a few people who are for the war sign up off of this board, so I do believe that some people are for it.
However it seems kind of funny to me how many "gung ho" people we have on this board who haven't, yet they take every opportunity available to call someone else a pussy or dumbass when they have a different viewpoint. I understand the 1st amendment that you can say what you want, but if you are really for the war, why don't you go put your life on the line.......or are you not really that much for it?
Strychnine
08-18-2005, 11:19 AM
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
:cool: I love that book.
Jester
08-18-2005, 11:20 AM
Actually we have had quite a few people who are for the war sign up off of this board, so I do believe that some people are for it.
However it seems kind of funny to me how many "gung ho" people we have on this board who haven't, yet they take every opportunity available to call someone else a pussy or dumbass when they have a different viewpoint. I understand the 1st amendment that you can say what you want, but if you are really for the war, why don't you go put your life on the line.......or are you not really that much for it?
I agree that if you are for the war you should serve. I volunteered and unfortunately didn't get the chance to smoke a camel. :mad: But, I think there are more people out there for the war, than against it. Why should everyone else in the world not get a taste of freedom? Why should they not get a chance to change their way of life for the better?
Actually we have had quite a few people who are for the war sign up off of this board, so I do believe that some people are for it.
However it seems kind of funny to me how many "gung ho" people we have on this board who haven't, yet they take every opportunity available to call someone else a pussy or dumbass when they have a different viewpoint. I understand the 1st amendment that you can say what you want, but if you are really for the war, why don't you go put your life on the line.......or are you not really that much for it?
That's like saying if you are against the war then why aren't you in Crawford with that lady who is protesting? Aren't you really against the war? Better get on I35 and start heading south...
TexasDevilDog
08-18-2005, 12:16 PM
However it seems kind of funny to me how many "gung ho" people we have on this board who haven't, yet they take every opportunity available to call someone else a pussy or dumbass when they have a different viewpoint. I understand the 1st amendment that you can say what you want, but if you are really for the war, why don't you go put your life on the line.......or are you not really that much for it?
I would like to say that I was in the Marines if you can't tell by my screen name. I joined in 1984 when Reagan was thumbing his nose and talking shit to the Soviets. When were you in?
Mattica
08-18-2005, 12:49 PM
her husband filed for divorce on tuesday
ceyko
08-18-2005, 12:54 PM
, then he needs to sign up his two little party-animal girls. They need to go to this war.
END
Not exactly fond of her comments, but I can agree with that one.
Mattica
08-18-2005, 12:57 PM
Not exactly fond of her comments, but I can agree with that one.
then you might as well hang the red curtain over america, where someone doesn't have a choice or not anymore...
SMOKEY
08-18-2005, 01:00 PM
Dumbass liberal from California. Why do they alawys seem to come from San Fransico to much damn LSD taken there in the past
Sgt Beavis
08-18-2005, 02:05 PM
Is it just me or has she gone from someone that is pittied to someone that is mocked?
Mattica
08-18-2005, 02:15 PM
Is it just me or has she gone from someone that is pittied to someone that is mocked?
look at www.moveon.org , they have a new mascot......using her to push their agenda....
GhostTX
08-18-2005, 02:50 PM
This lady is a nut.
I believe her son enlisted in 1998, at least some time prior to 9/11. He then re-enlisted. He was in some motor pool unit, just repairing vehicles. While in Iraq, he volunteered to go on a rescue mission to get some of those in his unit. That's when h e got KIA.
On a recent teleconference, she said, loosely, "I have no animosity for those that killed my son. I blame George Bush."
WTH? No animosity for the terrorists that pulled the trigger???! Lady, you're wacked!
Mattica
08-18-2005, 03:23 PM
This lady is a nut.
I believe her son enlisted in 1998, at least some time prior to 9/11. He then re-enlisted. He was in some motor pool unit, just repairing vehicles. While in Iraq, he volunteered to go on a rescue mission to get some of those in his unit. That's when h e got KIA.
On a recent teleconference, she said, loosely, "I have no animosity for those that killed my son. I blame George Bush."
WTH? No animosity for the terrorists that pulled the trigger???! Lady, you're wacked!
You know it's pretty amazing that when something bad happens, that this point of view doesn't blame the perpetrator. That's exactly what the terrorists want. Thank you Cindy Sheehan
I would just like to say that if my mother did what this lady is doing, I would jump out of the grave and punch her mouth loose.....
I would like to say that I was in the Marines if you can't tell by my screen name. I joined in 1984 when Reagan was thumbing his nose and talking shit to the Soviets. When were you in?
I was in from 90-99, I joined right at the same time we were gearing up for Desert Storm, got deployed there and a few other places afterwards.
I agree that if you are for the war you should serve. I volunteered and unfortunately didn't get the chance to smoke a camel. :mad: But, I think there are more people out there for the war, than against it. Why should everyone else in the world not get a taste of freedom? Why should they not get a chance to change their way of life for the better?
I'm not sure that there are more people for the war than against it anymore, as always the polls go back and forth on this. So really we don't get a true perspective of who is or isn't for anything anymore.
Do you really think that they want a change in their lifestyle? Also, why should we be the ones to bring it to them, and burn up our tax dollars to do it?
That's like saying if you are against the war then why aren't you in Crawford with that lady who is protesting? Aren't you really against the war? Better get on I35 and start heading south...
In that case why don't I drop you off at the Recruiting station on my way down there, got your bags packed?
In that case why don't I drop you off at the Recruiting station on my way down there, got your bags packed?
Is that the best you can do when someone uses your retarded logic against you?
Do you really think that they want a change in their lifestyle? Also, why should we be the ones to bring it to them, and burn up our tax dollars to do it?
What in their lifestyle is going to change? I mean besides the secret police beatings, killings, ethnic cleansing and possible imposition of harsh Islamic law at any moment. I'm sure they'd love for those things to continue but what else were you referring to? Your last question makes me wonder if you care more about the people over there or your wallet. I have news for you, the government is going to spend your money somehow, IMO they should at least use it to do something worthwhile.
Geor!
08-18-2005, 05:58 PM
Anybody feel like getting together, driving down to crawford and fucking with them this weekend? :D
She was spouting so much fucked up stuff , she gave her mom a stroke.
Now her mom is a patriot hero too. I'm sure she'll say, "George bush gave my mom a stroke".
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/08/18/Sheehan_leaves_antiwar_camp20050818.html
PaintitBlack95
08-19-2005, 12:36 AM
I'm not sure that there are more people for the war than against it anymore, as always the polls go back and forth on this. So really we don't get a true perspective of who is or isn't for anything anymore.
Do you really think that they want a change in their lifestyle? Also, why should we be the ones to bring it to them, and burn up our tax dollars to do it?
So people in the USA are the only ones entitled to life, liberty and the persuit of happiness??
Did Saddam's regime grant them those rights?
Did the have the right to free speech?
Did the have the right to Free Press?
Did the have the Right to bear arms?
Freedom of religion?
Were they innocent until proven guilty?
Were they given a choice about whether they joined the military or not?
Did they have a right to a trial by jury?
Did they have the right to vote?
Did the "government" ban cruel and unusual punishment?
Did they have the right agaisnt unreasonable searches and seizures?
And are we so wrapped up in our conceit as a free nation to think that we have no reason to secure these rights for people that have had them forcefully revoked from them? Do we so naively think that freedom can be obtained without fighting or war when our own freedom was obtained by MULTIPLE wars? If we are evil because we fight for other peoples certain inalienable(sp?) Then every civilization that has ever come and gone from our world is evil. There has always been fighting and always will be.
K I am done, flame away
TexasDevilDog
08-19-2005, 08:33 AM
She was spouting so much fucked up stuff , she gave her mom a stroke.
Now her mom is a patriot hero too. I'm sure she'll say, "George bush gave my mom a stroke".
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/08/18/Sheehan_leaves_antiwar_camp20050818.html
I'm thinking a protest group could show up now with signs like:
Cindy killed her mom
Cindy ruined her marriage
Cindy destroyed her family
ALLAN
08-19-2005, 08:45 AM
Sheehan, who is demanding a second meeting with Bush, stated: "We are waging a nuclear war in Iraq right now. That country is contaminated. It will be contaminated for practically eternity now."
END
Maybe I missed something, but when did we use any nukes in Iraq?? :confused:
What a crazy bitch.
HookEm
08-19-2005, 09:25 AM
oh, horseshit. it is a VOLUNTARY commitment. You can't volunteer someone else. that was the most asinine statement of all her tripe.
Not exactly fond of her comments, but I can agree with that one.
01WhiteCobra
08-19-2005, 10:38 AM
Maybe I missed something, but when did we use any nukes in Iraq?? :confused:
What a crazy bitch.
I guess she is talking about the spent-uranium bullets.
Firing DU shells is a long way from waging a "nuclear" war. More dumbass bullshit.
Of course there are all sorts of reports out there about a rise in birth defects. Probably has nothing to do with sanctions though.
01WhiteCobra
08-19-2005, 10:49 AM
Firing DU shells is a long way from waging a "nuclear" war. More dumbass bullshit.
Of course there are all sorts of reports out there about a rise in birth defects. Probably has nothing to do with sanctions though.
Hey, they have to hang their hat on something.
I'm sure we'll find out in 10 years that we actually shot the nuclear weapons up the sewer system and infected the Iraqis while they were taking a shit.
Craizie
08-19-2005, 11:03 AM
I'm thinking a protest group could show up now with signs like:
Cindy killed her mom
Cindy ruined her marriage
Cindy destroyed her family
lmao richard, im down for that...let me get some days off.
01WhiteCobra
08-19-2005, 11:08 AM
I'm thinking a protest group could show up now with signs like:
Cindy killed her mom
Cindy ruined her marriage
Cindy destroyed her family
Not bad... not bad...
Maybe we can get that shotgun toting, pickup driving neighbor to be our leader.
Hey, they have to hang their hat on something.
I'm sure we'll find out in 10 years that we actually shot the nuclear weapons up the sewer system and infected the Iraqis while they were taking a shit.
The whole thing about Du shells defies simple logic. They only fire DU shells at tanks. DU is an armor penetrator because it is more dense than lead. I don't know that much about Iraq but unless people live in burned out old tank hulls then I'm doubting it effects anyone.
TexasDevilDog
08-19-2005, 11:26 AM
lmao richard, im down for that...let me get some days off.
I have to work tomorrow or I would go. Next week end and I'll buy lunch for everyone that goes. :D
TexasDevilDog
08-19-2005, 01:34 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Cindy%20Sheehan.htm
August 19, 2005--Cindy Sheehan, the grieving mother who maintained an anti-War protest outside of President Bush's ranch, is viewed favorably by 35% of Americans and unfavorably by 38%.
Sheehan is viewed favorably by 34% of men and 35% of women. Forty-two percent (42%) of men and 34% of women have an unfavorable view.
In general, people see in Sheehan what they want to see. Opinion about her is largely based upon views of the War, rather than views about the woman herself. Democrats, by a 56% to 18% margin, have a favorable opinion. Republicans, by a 64% to 16% margin, have an unfavorable view. Those not affiliated with either major party are evenly divided.
People who think we should withdraw troops from Iraq now have a positive opinion of Sheehan (59% favorable, 12% unfavorable). Those who do not think we should withdraw troops at this time have a negative view (15% favorable , 64% unfavorable).
Among those with family members who have served in the military, Sheehan is viewed favorably by 31% and unfavorably by 48%.
Those people that frequent DFWStangs.net, 78% viewed Cindy as a bitch.
I have no idea who rasmussen is but he is a smart sumbitch...
ALLAN
08-19-2005, 02:57 PM
The whole thing about Du shells defies simple logic. They only fire DU shells at tanks. DU is an armor penetrator because it is more dense than lead. I don't know that much about Iraq but unless people live in burned out old tank hulls then I'm doubting it effects anyone.
I bet the A-10 guys are shooting up buildings with the 30mm. :D
If that's what shw is talking about sheis grasping at straws. Lord help her if she ever goes to parts of the Nevada test range..lol
I bet the A-10 guys are shooting up buildings with the 30mm. :D
If that's what shw is talking about sheis grasping at straws. Lord help her if she ever goes to parts of the Nevada test range..lol
yea, maybe so but I don't think you could live in them afterwards. Hehehe
GhostTX
08-19-2005, 04:13 PM
The whole DU argument is crap anyway. Its radioactivity is no more than the dirt in the ground.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/g030314-D-9085M.html
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/t03142003_t314depu.html
http://www.deploymentlink.osd.mil/du_library/
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/du.htm
http://www.nato.int/du/home.htm
When breathed or eaten, small amounts of depleted uranium are carried in the blood to body tissues and organs; much the same as the more radioactive natural uranium. Despite this, no radiological health effects are expected because the radioactivity of uranium and depleted uranium are so low.
Uranium is a weakly radioactive element that occurs naturally in the environment. The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) for the Department of Health and Human Services estimates there are an average of 4 tons of uranium in the top foot of soil in every square mile of land. A heavy metal similar to tungsten and lead, uranium occurs in soils in typical concentrations of a few parts per million (equivalent to about half a teaspoon of uranium in a typical 8-cubic yard dump truck-load of dirt).
Each of us ingests and inhales natural uranium every day from our air, water, food, and soil. The amount varies depending on the amount found where you live, and where the food you eat and the water you drink are produced. Consequently, each of us has some uranium in our body, and we eliminate some in our urine every day.
Uranium in our Bodies
Source Amount
(micrograms*)
Average Daily Intake: Liquid 2.1
Average Daily Intake: Food (U.S.) 0.9 - 1.5
Average Daily Intake: Inhalation 0.0010 - 0.010
Average Uranium (total) in the bodyAverage Uranium (total) in the body 2 - 62
*Note: 1 microgram = 0.000000035 ounces
Depleted Uranium - This very dense metal (1.7 times as dense as lead) is a by-product of the process by which uranium is enriched to produce reactor fuel and nuclear weapons components. The leftover uranium, 40% less radioactive than natural uranium, is called "depleted uranium," or DU. The Department of Energy (DOE) recently reported that the DU it provided to DoD for manufacturing armor plates and munitions may contain trace levels (a few parts per billion ) of contaminants including neptunium, plutonium, americium, technitium-99 and uranium-236. From a radiological perspective, these contaminants in DU add less than one percent to the radioactivity of DU itself. Medical scientists consider this insignificant.
gizmopsycle
08-19-2005, 04:21 PM
To join yes, to stay in NO! They are keeping people well past the end of their contract, and changing the maximum time in grade to keep others.
i do agree with this to some degree. our military really should stick to more of a regimented contract with our men and women. i have a buddy who went to iraq who is in the Marines. he was there 9 months, got back in april, and he is still waiting on his last active duty pay check. honestly these guys should be paid up the minute they get off that plane. respects and honors should be paid imediately when due also.
and on another not, i heard today on fox news that the total number of casualties for the war were 160. can anyone verify this for me?? bcuz if this is true (and i say this with the utmost respect) then u have a way better chance of dying in a car wreck, or from a heart attack. twin tower numbers were way higher then that so dont the ones who died deserve some pay back? and if we go over and destroy someones country and government dont we owe it to help them rebuild it?? just my thoughts
bobs94formula
08-21-2005, 11:27 AM
My brother, who's been in the ARMY snice 99, was over in Iraq 14 months. He was supposed to be finished in Dec., but he just re-enlisted for another 6 years. That is how much he believes in what's going on over there. He said that the people over there are good to them and really are happy they are helping them setup a democracy. It's just the few idiot fundamentalists, just like over here in America, who get all the news coverage.
Bob
Little punk,he'll be a double dipper once he finishes his 20 years.;)
Oh and I am for the war but they wouldn't take me into the ARMY back in 96 so I doubt they would take me now. Or I'd be there too.
gizmopsycle
08-22-2005, 08:31 PM
I'm thinking a protest group could show up now with signs like:
Cindy killed her mom
Cindy ruined her marriage
Cindy destroyed her family
i am with him, who all wants to go with me down there??????
WhtEdge
08-22-2005, 08:36 PM
LOL! She actually said we are waging a nuclear was in Iraq. Nice of her to let the world know this. Crazy!
ALLAN
08-22-2005, 08:44 PM
LOL! She actually said we are waging a nuclear was in Iraq. Nice of her to let the world know this. Crazy!
Run awaaaaay....he's got a nuke..lol
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/15/3869/640/A10%20muzzle%20and%20shell.jpg
Paladin
08-23-2005, 08:35 AM
I don't have the patience to verify this or not, but I heard that Michael Moore and Ms. Sheehan have agreed to do a documentary about this Crawford protest and it may have been planned before she showed up down there. Has anyone heard this or know if it is true?
The Punisher
08-23-2005, 11:14 AM
I have to work tomorrow or I would go. Next week end and I'll buy lunch for everyone that goes. :D
I live down there, Im down for it :D
The Punisher
08-23-2005, 11:18 AM
I don't have the patience to verify this or not, but I heard that Michael Moore and Ms. Sheehan have agreed to do a documentary about this Crawford protest and it may have been planned before she showed up down there. Has anyone heard this or know if it is true?
Michael Moore would be better off doing a documentary on Mc Donalds :rolleyes:
Jester
08-23-2005, 11:20 AM
Michael Moore would be better off doing a documentary on Mc Donalds :rolleyes:
I am about ready to put a bullet in that fucker.
ALLAN
08-24-2005, 10:32 AM
Crazy Cindy loves the terrorists...lol
www.asjewelers.com/FRstuff/15/CindyOnBus_small.wmv
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