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justinsn95
07-18-2005, 08:22 PM
I just wanted to see how many of us on here go to church. Might be interesting.

Da Prez
07-18-2005, 08:23 PM
nope...

Bones
07-18-2005, 08:25 PM
Most of the time.

justinsn95
07-18-2005, 08:26 PM
sorry had a lil problem with the poll but its goin now :o

justinsn95
07-18-2005, 08:28 PM
nope...

lol i didnt expect that you did, man...lol

Lestat
07-18-2005, 08:48 PM
nope

BigJirish08
07-18-2005, 10:11 PM
used to regularly, but now i go every once in a while...

poopnut2
07-19-2005, 12:31 PM
No.

Jester
07-19-2005, 12:34 PM
I pray to the church of Satan. ;)

fordnut
07-19-2005, 01:14 PM
I pray to the church of Satan. ;)


i hope you are just joking

Jester
07-19-2005, 01:46 PM
i hope you are just joking
Why does it matter? Do you really think that there is a magical place called heaven and there is a terrible place called hell?
I worship science and facts. No, I am not a scientologist, like I said, I worship factual information. Forgive me if I do not buy into the bible, but word of man is not something I trust........or the "word of God" through man.

I just think that God made Adam and Eve and they had children and they had children and they had children...yada yada yada....sounds like a load of poo.

David
07-19-2005, 02:40 PM
Nope

poopnut2
07-19-2005, 03:08 PM
Why does it matter? Do you really think that there is a magical place called heaven and there is a terrible place called hell?
I worship science and facts. No, I am not a scientologist, like I said, I worship factual information. Forgive me if I do not buy into the bible, but word of man is not something I trust........or the "word of God" through man.

I just think that God made Adam and Eve and they had children and they had children and they had children...yada yada yada....sounds like a load of poo.

It's a sin to wear a bandana. Even if you are as ugly as you are.

Having said that...

If there is no God where did man come from? I believe in logic. Did the Universe arrive from the Big Boom? Nothing comes from nothing. Whatever made that initial push to start the universe is "God". Whether it be a spiritual being or a spacefart, there is a "God".

Aristotle, also a man of Science and facts describes God as the "unmoved mover". Basically, the origin of everything. I agree with this idea.

Jester
07-19-2005, 03:10 PM
It's a sin to wear a bandana. Even if you are as ugly as you are.

Having said that...

If there is no God where did man come from? I believe in logic. Did the Universe arrive from the Big Boom? Nothing comes from nothing. Whatever made that initial push to start the universe is "God". Whether it be a spiritual being or a spacefart, there is a "God".

Aristotle, also a man of Science and facts describes God as the "unmoved mover". Basically, the origin of everything. I agree with this idea.
Agree with everything but the ugly part. I am a beautiful man.
There has to be something that created everything......call it what you will. I just don't buy into the organized religion or bible.

justinsn95
07-19-2005, 03:38 PM
Agree with everything but the ugly part. I am a beautiful man.
There has to be something that created everything......call it what you will. I just don't buy into the organized religion or bible.


im having a tough time with it myself. although the alternative sounds even less logical to me. "evolution" i swear anybody who believes that crap must have down syndrome or autism. imean come on! all the creatures we have today just sorta "turned into" what they are? (this aint teenage mutant ninja turtles). through this magical process that takes a long time? how conveinent that it takes so long so we cant prove it. id sooner belive that were all a buncha aliens from somewhere else.

Jester
07-19-2005, 03:42 PM
im having a tough time with it myself. although the alternative sounds even less logical to me. "evolution" i swear anybody who believes that crap must have down syndrome or autism. imean come on! all the creatures we have today just sorta "turned into" what they are? (this aint teenage mutant ninja turtles). through this magical process that takes a long time? how conveinent that it takes so long so we cant prove it. id sooner belive that were all a buncha aliens from somewhere else.
There is a strong showing of people that believe that we were put on earth to mine as slaves for alien races.......who knows?

Hollywood
07-19-2005, 06:00 PM
Every civilization since the beginning of time has created a god or gods to explain what he could not understand. What does that tell you? People will keep on believing in mythical creatures as long as the start of existence is guess work. Sad.

breadfan35
07-19-2005, 06:37 PM
Back to the topic, I go every week.

shrp88lx's
07-19-2005, 07:35 PM
I find it most interesting that the theology forum is made up mostly of unbelievers???

talisman
07-19-2005, 09:27 PM
No. never. Won't get married in one either.

justinsn95
07-20-2005, 06:37 AM
Every civilization since the beginning of time has created a god or gods to explain what he could not understand. What does that tell you? People will keep on believing in mythical creatures as long as the start of existence is guess work. Sad.

it is kinda sad, in its own lil way, i guess. ( maybe not if you found the real one somehow?) but i wonder if 3 or even 6 thousand yrs ago people folowed it as DEVOUTLY (sp?) as they do now, always pressuring others to do things they dont wanna do.

Stephen
07-20-2005, 10:45 AM
i need to start going again

Chrm10SPkZ28
07-20-2005, 11:36 AM
i used to go every sunday, have been slackin for about a year since i got married and built a house 30 min away from my church. need to pick it back up. i feel sorry for everyone that dont believe, all i can say is i will pray for all of you

poopnut2
07-20-2005, 11:49 AM
I find it most interesting that the theology forum is made up mostly of unbelievers???

Definition of theology:

-The rational and systematic study of religion and its influences and of the nature of religious truth.

This isn't the "Christians and bible backers forum".

poopnut2
07-20-2005, 11:50 AM
it is kinda sad, in its own lil way, i guess. ( maybe not if you found the real one somehow?) but i wonder if 3 or even 6 thousand yrs ago people folowed it as DEVOUTLY (sp?) as they do now, always pressuring others to do things they dont wanna do.

Ancient Egypt, Greece, The Aztecs, Mayans......should I continue?

Jester
07-20-2005, 11:51 AM
i used to go every sunday, have been slackin for about a year since i got married and built a house 30 min away from my church. need to pick it back up. i feel sorry for everyone that dont believe, all i can say is i will pray for all of you
And I will pray for each of you believers to see the light and study science. :D

Chrm10SPkZ28
07-20-2005, 03:27 PM
And I will pray for each of you believers to see the light and study science. :D

no need for that, i know i did not come from any damn monkey

poopnut2
07-20-2005, 03:31 PM
no need for that, i know i did not come from any damn monkey

From what I've seen, they probably evolved from you.

talisman
07-20-2005, 07:15 PM
Poopnut, you're gaining respect... Damn it.

justinsn95
07-20-2005, 08:39 PM
From what I've seen, they probably evolved from you.

lmao!! you sir, are cool!

shrp88lx's
07-20-2005, 09:39 PM
Definition of theology:

-The rational and systematic study of religion and its influences and of the nature of religious truth.

This isn't the "Christians and bible backers forum".Never said it was the "Christians and Bible backers forum" however it is abundantly clear many of you who are here havent ever systematically studied anything much less religion or its influences!!!

Hollywood
07-20-2005, 10:26 PM
Never said it was the "Christians and Bible backers forum" however it is abundantly clear many of you who are here havent ever systematically studied anything much less religion or its influences!!!

lol, really? I was raised a christian and stayed that way until 22. Fortunately I deprogrammed myself and i'm now a free man.

shrp88lx's
07-20-2005, 10:28 PM
lol, really? I was raised a christian and stayed that way until 22. Fortunately I deprogrammed myself and i'm now a free man.
Im happy for you and youll notice I said "many" not "all". and if you were "programmed' then that wasnt a religion!!!

sweetchick
07-20-2005, 10:30 PM
I work lots of weekends but, go to church any time I can.

mikeb
07-21-2005, 12:32 AM
Generally every Sunday.

poopnut2
07-21-2005, 09:19 AM
Never said it was the "Christians and Bible backers forum" however it is abundantly clear many of you who are here havent ever systematically studied anything much less religion or its influences!!!

Born and raised in a Baptist church. When all I heard in church was "Did you hear who's not at church today?"...which was followed by a lot of gossip, I decided it wasn't for me.

Don't get me wrong, organized religion has done wonders for some and probably needs to be in society but like I just said, it's not for me.

purrrfectstang
07-21-2005, 11:26 AM
Nope... I havent been to church since I was a little kid.

TK_Blown98_GT
07-21-2005, 12:49 PM
Never...church is for the weak.........and insecure...........I hate religion!!!!!!!!!!!

TexasDevilDog
07-21-2005, 02:38 PM
Never...church is for the weak.........and insecure...........I hate religion!!!!!!!!!!!

I am in test development with Nokia Pre-production. I work on designing and modifying electro-mechanical, pneumatic test equipment. I can also write and debug software code that is use to automate the system. I am the local computer network admin person for our department before calling IM. I co-operate our departments machine shop equipment for tooling adapters and fixtures.

I am 38 years old. I was baptized two years ago. I don't have a weak mind.

What do you do?

poopnut2
07-21-2005, 02:44 PM
I am in test development with Nokia Pre-production. I work on designing and modifying electro-mechanical, pneumatic test equipment. I can also write and debug software code that is use to automate the system. I am the local computer network admin person for our department before calling IM. I co-operate our departments machine shop equipment for tooling adapters and fixtures.

I am 38 years old. I was baptized two years ago. I don't have a weak mind.

What do you do?

He breath's air. :D

Hollywood
07-21-2005, 06:13 PM
I am in test development with Nokia Pre-production. I work on designing and modifying electro-mechanical, pneumatic test equipment. I can also write and debug software code that is use to automate the system. I am the local computer network admin person for our department before calling IM. I co-operate our departments machine shop equipment for tooling adapters and fixtures.

I am 38 years old. I was baptized two years ago. I don't have a weak mind.

What do you do?

He said you had a weak mind; he didn't call you stupid, ignorant or anything that states you were incapable of learning technology. Religion is for the weak minded. Basically everything you just stated is irrelevant to his proclamation.

shrp88lx's
07-21-2005, 06:36 PM
He said you had a weak mind; he didn't call you stupid, ignorant or anything that states you were incapable of learning technology. Religion is for the weak minded. Basically everything you just stated is irrelevant to his proclamation.
how is religon for the weak minded??

shrp88lx's
07-21-2005, 06:40 PM
Born and raised in a Baptist church. When all I heard in church was "Did you hear who's not at church today?"...which was followed by a lot of gossip, I decided it wasn't for me.

Don't get me wrong, organized religion has done wonders for some and probably needs to be in society but like I just said, it's not for me.
see to me thats just a statement about those people not the religion, thats not religon as you correctly stated, it was gossip!! I find most people who dont like religion have had some sort of bad experience in childhood that has turned them away from it sadly before they were able to realize the benefits to themselves without influence from others!

Hollywood
07-21-2005, 06:51 PM
how is religon for the weak minded??

The whole basis of religion relies on faith. Someone wrote a book several hundred years ago and without any proof whatsoever, you believe in this book. There's nothing to back it up. I can write a book, make up a religion, and gurantee you that a group of people would follow it. Look at all the "occults" like heavens gates, the branch dividiants. The only difference between these extremists and baptist is their conviction. They believe so profoundly in what they've been taught, that they will die for it's cause.
Religion in it's entirety relies on broad generalizations to convince it's believers to not question the rules stated in this book. When I ask why God would allow a child to be molested in a church I get answers like "god does not intervene." How convenient. Yet, when something great happens, it was God's work or will. Well tell me something? Does he or does he not intervene? You pray for protection and a host of other things, but funny how when something can't be explained, it's blown off as "God does not intervene." Better yet, when something happens, it's because man chose it. Yea, i'm sure a child or parent chose for that person to be molested by a priest in the house of God. If you really sit down and look at it, you can see it. But the believer won't do that. He/she has been trained to believe without question and rely on faith. All the while there is nothing to substantiate his believe. And before anyone breaks out with "well there's nothing to prove he doesn't exits". If I claim that the lochness monster is real, are you going to believe me based on my word? Or are you going to set out and found out? You are going to assume it's false until some proof comes foward. Funny how religion is exempt from this. You just take someone else's word for it. To be so easily duped in to believing in something without any proof whatsoever, thats what makes you weak minded.

TexasDevilDog
07-21-2005, 08:10 PM
He said you had a weak mind; he didn't call you stupid, ignorant or anything that states you were incapable of learning technology. Religion is for the weak minded. Basically everything you just stated is irrelevant to his proclamation.

Well, I thought I had a strong mind with everything I have to know and do. I am stupid now. :rolleyes:

shrp88lx's
07-21-2005, 08:14 PM
The whole basis of religion relies on faith. Someone wrote a book several hundred years ago and without any proof whatsoever, you believe in this book. There's nothing to back it up. I can write a book, make up a religion, and gurantee you that a group of people would follow it. Look at all the "occults" like heavens gates, the branch dividiants. The only difference between these extremists and baptist is their conviction. They believe so profoundly in what they've been taught, that they will die for it's cause.
Religion in it's entirety relies on broad generalizations to convince it's believers to not question the rules stated in this book. When I ask why God would allow a child to be molested in a church I get answers like "god does not intervene." How convenient. Yet, when something great happens, it was God's work or will. Well tell me something? Does he or does he not intervene? You pray for protection and a host of other things, but funny how when something can't be explained, it's blown off as "God does not intervene." Better yet, when something happens, it's because man chose it. Yea, i'm sure a child or parent chose for that person to be molested by a priest in the house of God. If you really sit down and look at it, you can see it. But the believer won't do that. He/she has been trained to believe without question and rely on faith. All the while there is nothing to substantiate his believe. And before anyone breaks out with "well there's nothing to prove he doesn't exits". If I claim that the lochness monster is real, are you going to believe me based on my word? Or are you going to set out and found out? You are going to assume it's false until some proof comes foward. Funny how religion is exempt from this. You just take someone else's word for it. To be so easily duped in to believing in something without any proof whatsoever, thats what makes you weak minded.
2 of the major flaws in your arguement. The bible tells all christians to "TEST" the things being said. that aside there are many books of ancient times and of other authors that do support and confirm the people of ancient time including Jesus, and the things written in the bibble, yes "faith" is required, however you slice it you have faith in something, you have faith the air will be there tomorrow for you to breathe, you have no more control over that than anyone yet you believe it will be there. so are you weak minded because of this faith?? And before you say Science can prove it, science has proved many things of the Bible so to be fair those would have to be considered proven as well correct??

Hollywood
07-21-2005, 08:40 PM
2 of the major flaws in your arguement. The bible tells all christians to "TEST" the things being said. that aside there are many books of ancient times and of other authors that do support and confirm the people of ancient time including Jesus, and the things written in the bibble, yes "faith" is required, however you slice it you have faith in something, you have faith the air will be there tomorrow for you to breathe, you have no more control over that than anyone yet you believe it will be there. so are you weak minded because of this faith?? And before you say Science can prove it, science has proved many things of the Bible so to be fair those would have to be considered proven as well correct??

Science has not proven that God exists. I don't have faith air will be here tomorrow, I know it will be because we know why we have air. We are 100% certain of it's existence, so no faith is required for air.

Hollywood
07-21-2005, 08:41 PM
Well, I thought I had a strong mind with everything I have to know and do. I am stupid now. :rolleyes:

Nobody thinks you're stupid, although your inability to understand what "weak minded" means is starting to make me wonder. :rolleyes:

talisman
07-21-2005, 08:55 PM
I love these threads. I remember when I was a teenager and thought I could really help people see the error of their ways and help them not be slaves to a cult, but now that I'm old and wiser, I say screw it, who am I to try and save a world hellbent on escaping from reality? I love religion. It's like watching Jerry Springer. You look at the people participating and immediatly feel better about your own life, no matter how bad it is. (Go ahead, someone chime in with how life might be better if you accept religion into it and completly miss the symantical point. No, seriously, go ahead. I completly expect it from you guys.)

shrp88lx's
07-21-2005, 09:01 PM
Science has not proven that God exists. I don't have faith air will be here tomorrow, I know it will be because we know why we have air. We are 100% certain of it's existence, so no faith is required for air. Not a faith your willing to acknowledge. Oh and science has, you just choose to ignore that part of it. think about it how many scientist are "intelligent design" backers. Are they any less than any other scientist??

justinsn95
07-22-2005, 01:07 AM
you can all argue till you are blue in the face. the onlyreal truth i can see here is that you will NEVER really PROVE any of it. you who believe in god, give up hope that there will ever be any proof in this lifetime to back your claims or that you will ever convince a true "seeker of proof".
you who do not, give up hope at arguing with fanatics, cause thats they are, even if at a low level or wont admit to it. oh and give up hope trying to prove he doesnt exist.

dont know who said it, but a quote is stuck in my head.
"science can never prove anything, only disprove things"

TexasDevilDog
07-22-2005, 08:13 AM
(Go ahead, someone chime in with how life might be better if you accept religion into it and completly miss the symantical point. No, seriously, go ahead. I completly expect it from you guys.)

Millions of people turn from alcoholism and drug abuse by confessing their faith in atheism. It works, just look at the results.

poopnut2
07-22-2005, 09:20 AM
see to me thats just a statement about those people not the religion, thats not religon as you correctly stated, it was gossip!! I find most people who dont like religion have had some sort of bad experience in childhood that has turned them away from it sadly before they were able to realize the benefits to themselves without influence from others!

I haven't said anything bad about the christian religion. I'm not a "christian" because as of now, I don't believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God in any different way than the rest of us. However, if there was a man like you and I who went through what Jesus supposedly went through and did it in the name of God, he has my love and respect moreso than if he was sent to Earth solely for that purpose as "The Son of God".

Jester
07-22-2005, 09:22 AM
I haven't said anything bad about the christian religion. I'm not a "christian" because as of now, I don't believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God in any different way than the rest of us. However, if there was a man like you and I who went through what Jesus supposedly went through and did it in the name of God, he has my love and respect moreso than if he was sent to Earth solely for that purpose as "The Son of God".
That is exactly the way I feel..............damn nut, you gettin mad respect yo. :D

KickerStang
07-22-2005, 12:18 PM
I haven't said anything bad about the christian religion. I'm not a "christian" because as of now, I don't believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God in any different way than the rest of us.

Go read John 1:1-5...

poopnut2
07-22-2005, 12:44 PM
Go read John 1:1-5...

Yeah, it says he was with God in the beginning, in him the light of man shines...your point? I should just have faith because the bible says that's how it is?

KickerStang
07-22-2005, 01:37 PM
Yeah, it says he was with God in the beginning, in him the light of man shines...your point? I should just have faith because the bible says that's how it is?

1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....
14. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

This says that Jesus is not only the Son of God, but he IS God. That is my point. If you hear the good news and believe, then you are a Christian. If you don't believe then you are not Christian. All I was saying was that is your "proof" that God is the Son of God. You said you did not believe it. I thought maybe you did not know why he was the Son. Again, he is not only the Son, but God himself according to the word of God...

poopnut2
07-22-2005, 01:41 PM
Again, he is not only the Son, but God himself according to the word of God...

According to the Bible.

Jester
07-22-2005, 01:43 PM
1. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....
14. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

This says that Jesus is not only the Son of God, but he IS God. That is my point. If you hear the good news and believe, then you are a Christian. If you don't believe then you are not Christian. All I was saying was that is your "proof" that God is the Son of God. You said you did not believe it. I thought maybe you did not know why he was the Son. Again, he is not only the Son, but God himself according to the word of God...
That makes about as much since as putting your hand into a running blender. I just don't understand how rational people will believe a story like that, but not believe that aliens could exist.

shrp88lx's
07-22-2005, 02:30 PM
That makes about as much since as putting your hand into a running blender. I just don't understand how rational people will believe a story like that, but not believe that aliens could exist.
im a christian and i believe aliens could exist, where does the Bible prevent me from believing that?? If your a Christian and believe in the power of God, especially as the creator then why wouldnt you believe he has the power to create others??

Jester
07-22-2005, 02:33 PM
im a christian and i believe aliens could exist, where does the Bible prevent me from believing that?? If your a Christian and believe in the power of God, especially as the creator then why wouldnt you believe he has the power to create others??
We still must remember that the bible is written by man.....yes, there has to be a creator, but where did he come from. Did God just appear? Lots of blanks to fill.

shrp88lx's
07-22-2005, 02:34 PM
I haven't said anything bad about the christian religion. I'm not a "christian" because as of now, I don't believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God in any different way than the rest of us. However, if there was a man like you and I who went through what Jesus supposedly went through and did it in the name of God, he has my love and respect moreso than if he was sent to Earth solely for that purpose as "The Son of God".
Finally you say something that while I still disagree with I understand!! ;) :)

BTW Jesus has been written about in many other books from the time period other than the bible. So the Man did exist. And i applaud you for not wearing the name "christian" when you arent one, I hear so many people say they are christians but dont believe in Christ. I take back some of the bad thoughts Ive had about you...LOL..

shrp88lx's
07-22-2005, 02:38 PM
We still must remember that the bible is written by man.....yes, there has to be a creator, but where did he come from. Did God just appear? Lots of blanks to fill.The Bible tells us that after judgement, "all will be revealed" t us, those type questions will be answered. I wont argue that "Faith" is required, and i concur its a difficult thing. However if there is a creator, would he not also have the power to communicate with his/her creation to tell them what he expected from them if anything?? If so then the Bible could be that book and the creator would have the power to keep it from being changed, as I and many others believe it is.

Jester
07-22-2005, 02:55 PM
The Bible tells us that after judgement, "all will be revealed" t us, those type questions will be answered. I wont argue that "Faith" is required, and i concur its a difficult thing. However if there is a creator, would he not also have the power to communicate with his/her creation to tell them what he expected from them if anything?? If so then the Bible could be that book and the creator would have the power to keep it from being changed, as I and many others believe it is.
It very well could be that book, I just have "faith" in it.
Were did God come from?

poopnut2
07-22-2005, 03:14 PM
It very well could be that book, I just have "faith" in it.
Were did God come from?

God is the "unmoved mover" according to Aristotle like I already posted, perhaps in a different thread. The best way to describe God in my mind is the beginning. Everything has a beginning. God is the beginning of everything. It's hard to comprehend but I've learned to accept it.

Jester
07-22-2005, 03:19 PM
God is the "unmoved mover" according to Aristotle like I already posted, perhaps in a different thread. The best way to describe God in my mind is the beginning. Everything has a beginning. God is the beginning of everything. It's hard to comprehend but I've learned to accept it.
The only reason that everything has a beginning is because something puts it into motion. What put God in motion?

poopnut2
07-22-2005, 03:54 PM
The only reason that everything has a beginning is because something puts it into motion. What put God in motion?

God. Hence, the unmoved mover!

Jester
07-22-2005, 04:04 PM
God. Hence, the unmoved mover!
That sounds like a copout.

poopnut2
07-22-2005, 04:16 PM
That sounds like a copout.

Like I said, I had to accept it. It's hard to understand the beginning of time but there had to be one, and that is God. Using logic, it's the only explanation.

talisman
07-22-2005, 06:50 PM
Millions of people turn from alcoholism and drug abuse by confessing their faith in atheism. It works, just look at the results.



I was talking about for ME. My life is perfect, even with the alcohol abuse.

doopie
07-23-2005, 12:44 AM
I grew up a Catholic and resent the priests who feel the need for breaking the rules set by society. I also hate the word christian being thrown around becasue so many hippocrates claim christianity yet do not follow it. Where does it say in the good book that christians should use the internet and drive mustangs?

If Adam and Eve were the first and they had two sons where did all the other women come from?

If there are aliens is there another god that created those?

Are we really all here or is this one kick ass acid trip.

Why do thumpers think because they have a book lots of people read and do not understand that they think theirs is the only way of life and everyone else is wrong?

Why did God create(intervene) and create so many different religions(faiths)

So many questions and no one here or anywhere else can answer.

Why is darwin the coolest dude in the world?

doopie
07-23-2005, 12:53 AM
im having a tough time with it myself. although the alternative sounds even less logical to me. "evolution" i swear anybody who believes that crap must have down syndrome or autism. imean come on! all the creatures we have today just sorta "turned into" what they are? (this aint teenage mutant ninja turtles). through this magical process that takes a long time? how conveinent that it takes so long so we cant prove it. id sooner belive that were all a buncha aliens from somewhere else.


Why not evolution look at animals today and how long we live nowadays. We adapt to our environment. Currently we are looking at other planets to see if they can sustain our species ( water/air ) If they do we will migrate their and wonder in 2000 years how we got there. With science and technology we will know that though. so if we do not know where we came from how come this one book has lasted so long but how come other religions don't believe in it either.......

The bible states we are all from West Virginia. Incest is best....keep it in the family.... Where are the other woman.

Where exactly is the garden of Eden I want to visit hopefully they put a theme park I am sure some baptist minister wants to charge 40 to get in and then ask for more tithing money becasue we need to keep the place up so him and Tammy Faye Baker can go to heaven with a little extra spending money.

Doopie

MoonDog
07-23-2005, 09:11 AM
Like I said, I had to accept it. It's hard to understand the beginning of time but there had to be one, and that is God. Using logic, it's the only explanation.
I commend you poop for comming to this conclusion. This is exactly what Christians have been saying for years.

Jester, science has been trying to prove how the universe came into existance for a long time. Whether the universe began with a collision with another universe or a giant explosion it really doesn't matter much. What matters is what caused this to happen? Where did the atoms that generated so much energy originate? If they were just sitting there in the middle of nothingness minding their own business, why did they decide to explode and create a random world?

Bottom line, these theories that man comes up with to explain the universes existance are just as far fetched as as you believe the fact that God exists is.

MoonDog
07-23-2005, 09:17 AM
If Adam and Eve were the first and they had two sons where did all the other women come from? You never read the bible have you? They had more than 2 children.

If there are aliens is there another god that created those? If there are indeed aliens then the same God that created you and me created them also. Although I highly doubt there are aliens out there.

Are we really all here or is this one kick ass acid trip. Yes, we are all here. You on the other hand, I am not so sure.

Why do thumpers think because they have a book lots of people read and do not understand that they think theirs is the only way of life and everyone else is wrong? We never said that everyone else is wrong, Jesus did when He said that He was the Way, the Truth and the Life, NO ONE comes to the Father exept throught Him.

Why did God create(intervene) and create so many different religions(faiths) God never created religion, man did.

So many questions and no one here or anywhere else can answer.

Why is darwin the coolest dude in the world? Darwin realized himself that he could be wrong.

doopie
07-23-2005, 09:55 AM
If Adam and Eve were the first and they had two sons where did all the other women come from? You never read the bible have you? They had more than 2 children.

If there are aliens is there another god that created those? If there are indeed aliens then the same God that created you and me created them also. Although I highly doubt there are aliens out there.

Are we really all here or is this one kick ass acid trip. Yes, we are all here. You on the other hand, I am not so sure.

Why do thumpers think because they have a book lots of people read and do not understand that they think theirs is the only way of life and everyone else is wrong? We never said that everyone else is wrong, Jesus did when He said that He was the Way, the Truth and the Life, NO ONE comes to the Father exept throught Him.

Why did God create(intervene) and create so many different religions(faiths) God never created religion, man did.

So many questions and no one here or anywhere else can answer.

Why is darwin the coolest dude in the world? Darwin realized himself that he could be wrong.

So god never created religion man did the same person that created the bible. Sounds like fiction to me.

They had many more kids and those mids mated with others........Sounds like incest all over no wonder you people are all screwed in the head you have to many of your genes with matching chromosomes.....

shrp88lx's
07-23-2005, 10:15 AM
So god never created religion man did the same person that created the bible. Sounds like fiction to me.

They had many more kids and those mids mated with others........Sounds like incest all over no wonder you people are all screwed in the head you have to many of your genes with matching chromosomes.....
Adam and Eve were the first, NOT THE ONLY!!!

God created religion in the text your using it, the many differrent religons came from man.

MoonDog
07-23-2005, 09:44 PM
So god never created religion man did the same person that created the bible. Sounds like fiction to me.

They had many more kids and those mids mated with others........Sounds like incest all over no wonder you people are all screwed in the head you have to many of your genes with matching chromosomes.....
I know you really cant be that dense so I am just going to ignore everything you have posted in this thread.

Shorty
07-28-2005, 01:06 PM
I went to catholic church for the first ~18 years of my life because I was forced to. Never really wanted to, never really interested in the religion, but I went once a week with my mom and another 2 times a week when I went to catholic school pre k-8th grade. Once I went to college I stopped going all together except for holidays when I'm home and its a "family" thing not a church thing (meaning my dad that is lutheran goes to church with us on christmas etc.).

GROUNDWIRE
07-28-2005, 09:32 PM
never grew up in Church, hated religion, started going about 7 years ago, gone ever since, still hate religion, it is not about religion for me. maybe some,,well maybe most, but not for me.

89s-trim
08-01-2005, 01:12 PM
i was like some on here, went to catholic church all of my younger years, then just stopped for about 5 yrs. then started to go to a christian church about two years ago, i was like this church is two hours long, there ain't no way i am going to stay, i didn't like the one hour chruch, now two!!! but when the pastor finishes up two hours later, i want more. so maybe its just the church you go to but the one i go to is very comfortable and and the people make you feel like you have known them for your whole life.


Someone once told me that think of the things you do now without GOD in your heart, and imagine doing things with GOD. you may do things now and say that you don't need church or GOD, but GOD will always be there for you, no matter what your belief is.