When setting weights for a heads-up racing class

[Andrew]

How do you do it?

[bigcountry_5]

Ban Sneaky!!! ;) :p

[TRAXX]

The choice is clear....Ban Sneaky...and reset his post count! :D

[JamesB]

You posted this on a board where 97% of the members, know nothing about heads up racing. :confused:

[turbostang]

By "weights" you mean corner weights?

[truestreet5.8]

You posted this on a board where 97% of the members, know nothing about heads up racing. :confused:James, did you figure out what caused the lean problem yet?

[Cmarsh93z]

I weighed 188 the other morning..set that

[truestreet5.8]

By "weights" you mean corner weights?Nope, he mean's total weights like what a sb turbo car has to weigh vs. a BB nitrous, sb nitrous ect....ect... I am sure it pertains toTTT5 talking about adding weight to turbo cars (Wolfe) in limited to make it a closer race.

[Mach1Marauder]

Ban the bitch! :p

[Unseen]

You should look at the potential. Hard work dialing in a combination should be rewarded, not punished.

[JamesB]

You should look at the potential. Hard work dialing in a combination should be rewarded, not punished.
exactly, but chevy guys seem to not see that. I think its horseshit that they want to add weight to his car. If anything they should alow the nitrous cars to be lighter, but then they will complain they can't get there car that light, bla,bla, bla. Go cry on someone else's shoulder. They need to look across the nation at other limited street classes and see those winning in those classes and what guys are running with those setups. They then can see the potenial these "slower" cars can have.

[truestreet5.8]

exactly, but chevy guys seem to not see that. I think its horseshit that they want to add weight to his car. If anything they should alow the nitrous cars to be lighter, but then they will complain they can't get there car that light, bla,bla, bla. Go cry on someone else's shoulder. They need to look across the nation at other limited street classes and see those winning in those classes and what guys are running with those setups. They then can see the potenial these "slower" cars can have.Cedric said the limited class that runs in Alabama takes a 4.90 just to be in the show. He knows his limited class is below par right now and admits you have to look at the potential, I just hope they don't do as suggested and add weight to the turbo cars.

Pat Edwards is the only commitee member overseeing limited right now so I would PM him and get his input Andrew. I think he will help make the right decision.

[Unseen]

exactly, but chevy guys seem to not see that. I think its horseshit that they want to add weight to his car. If anything they should alow the nitrous cars to be lighter, but then they will complain they can't get there car that light, bla,bla, bla. Go cry on someone else's shoulder. They need to look across the nation at other limited street classes and see those winning in those classes and what guys are running with those setups. They then can see the potenial these "slower" cars can have.

They should benchmark other organizations running Limited Street and the cars running in those organizations. That would be the best way to do it, IMO.

[turbostang]

Nope, he mean's total weights like what a sb turbo car has to weigh vs. a BB nitrous, sb nitrous ect....ect... I am sure it pertains toTTT5 talking about adding weight to turbo cars (Wolfe) in limited to make it a closer race.

DUh.. I missed the poll part of it.. Damn it!

I say take the weight out of the nitrous cars if they need it but don't add it to the turbo cars.

More weight in any car means more broken parts and more oil downs... for starters.

It just goes to show how afraid of the turbo cars they really are !

[JamesB]

Cedric said the limited class that runs in Alabama takes a 4.90 just to be in the show. He knows his limited class is below par right now and admits you have to look at the potential, I just hope they don't do as suggested and add weight to the turbo cars.

Pat Edwards is the only commitee member overseeing limited right now so I would PM him and get his input Andrew. I think he will help make the right decision.
too, late. they already added the weight. The updated rules are online now. I thought they where gonna hold off on adding the weight and make a vote, but with Pat being the person over limited street, I see why they added the weight. :mad:

[B.B. King]

too, late. they already added the weight. The updated rules are online now. I thought they where gonna hold off on adding the weight and make a vote, but with Pat being the person over limited street, I see why they added the weight. :mad:
I DID NOT VOTE FOR ANY WEIGHT ADDED YET I WAS GOIUNG TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER CLASSES AROUND THE WORLD WAS DOING AND BY THE WAY I AM RUNNING MY TURBO CAR IN LIMITED CLASS

[truestreet5.8]

I DID NOT VOTE FOR ANY WEIGHT ADDED YET I WAS GOIUNG TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER CLASSES AROUND THE WORLD WAS DOING AND BY THE WAY I AM RUNNING MY TURBO CAR IN LIMITED CLASSSo your not going to run the blue camaro in extreme anymore with the new rule? I take it you are talking about your beretta in limited? That class could get interesting then.

[B.B. King]

So your not going to run the blue camaro in extreme anymore with the new rule? I take it you are talking about your beretta in limited? That class could get interesting then.
NO I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON MY OWN CAR WHICH IS A 70 MODEL CAMERO WITH A TURBO COMBO THE CAR WEIGHS 3000 WITH ME IN IT I WILL HAVE TO AD WEIGHT TO

[B.B. King]

too, late. they already added the weight. The updated rules are online now. I thought they where gonna hold off on adding the weight and make a vote, but with Pat being the person over limited street, I see why they added the weight. :mad:
AND FOR JAMES THAT WAS A CHEAP SHOT AT ME SO ILL TELL YOU WHAT .ILL RACE YOUR CAR WITH MY 3400 POUND NITROUS CHEVY ON TRUE TENS. ANDS I DONT CARE WHAT YOU WEIGH

[turbostang]

AND FOR JAMES THAT WAS A CHEAP SHOT AT ME SO ILL TELL YOU WHAT .ILL RACE YOUR CAR WITH MY 3400 POUND NITROUS CHEVY ON TRUE TENS. ANDS I DONT CARE WHAT YOU WEIGH


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[RED]

:eek: :eek: DAMN!

[mikeb]

This is kind of a trick question, and you have to take into account what the ultimate goal of the class is.

There is "no holds barred" heads up, and (for lack of a better word) "balanced" heads up where the rules get tweaked to even up the competition.

The risk of the "no holds barred" class is that eventually a dominant combination will emerge and anyone not running that combo will have a hard time being competitive. IMO the class then runs the risk of becoming "stale" at that point and people may lose interest when the same small group of bucks-up racers win over and over again throughout the season. Money invested talks in a class like this.

The "balanced" class of course aims to keep competition more even keel, and handicaps what would be the more dominant combos. A person at a "sportsman" money level may have a bit more of a chance in a class like this.

Really, I think there may be room for both kinds of "heads up" classes although some may say "run whatcha brung" and for heads up racing there is some truth to that. Don't play in these kinds of classes if ya can't afford it.

But without the "balanced" classes there might not be enough interest to have any heads up classes at all (?)

It's a dilemma.

[SNEAKY]

NO I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON MY OWN CAR WHICH IS A 70 MODEL CAMERO WITH A TURBO COMBO THE CAR WEIGHS 3000 WITH ME IN IT I WILL HAVE TO AD WEIGHT TO
green car?

[JamesB]

AND FOR JAMES THAT WAS A CHEAP SHOT AT ME SO ILL TELL YOU WHAT .ILL RACE YOUR CAR WITH MY 3400 POUND NITROUS CHEVY ON TRUE TENS. ANDS I DONT CARE WHAT YOU WEIGH
LOL, you got my covered by a long shot. Actually what the TTT5 has done is hurt the little guy. Your not going to slow David down. You got to realize he has the best of the best. He has been building chassis's for a very long time, expecially mustangs. He has built some of the fastest in the nation. He has one of the best engine tunners in the nation, Job Spetter. He has a very good finacial backing. Everytime at the track you see his entire group helping with the car and what not. He runs his program very smooth and his results prove the hard work he and his group have in the program. The only way his car is gonna slow down, is if David decides to slow it down, but I really don't see that happening.

[Beenfetchedlately]

I weighed 188 the other morning..set thatDamn son...You are my weight now! :cool:

[B.B. King]

LOL, you got my covered by a long shot. Actually what the TTT5 has done is hurt the little guy. Your not going to slow David down. You got to realize he has the best of the best. He has been building chassis's for a very long time, expecially mustangs. He has built some of the fastest in the nation. He has one of the best engine tunners in the nation, Job Spetter. He has a very good finacial backing. Everytime at the track you see his entire group helping with the car and what not. He runs his program very smooth and his results prove the hard work he and his group have in the program. The only way his car is gonna slow down, is if David decides to slow it down, but I really don't see that happening.
you dont have to tell me. i know david will be hard to outrun. but it can be done i dont think it will be by a nitrous car .i think it will take a turbo car to do it we went out with brians car on true tens one time and went 496 with little effort. hopefully my car will make the power and i can stick it well see

[JamesB]

yea my goal is to get in the 4.90's, but I think my car only has 5.10's in it, maybe 5.0's. I have been having alot of problems with it. This is my first turbo car so everything is a learning curve for me. If you look at the ORSCA limited events its the nitrous cars that are the top dogs. They just got more experience with these type of races. I honestly think by the end of the year all these local guys will have stepped up and be running in the 4.90's in limited trim.

[Andrew]

you dont have to tell me. i know david will be hard to outrun. but it can be done i dont think it will be by a nitrous car .i think it will take a turbo car to do it we went out with brians car on true tens one time and went 496 with little effort. hopefully my car will make the power and i can stick it well see

www.limitedstreet.com

check the results on the page after the intro.

ORSCA limited street has nitrous cars regularly running 4.90-4.95... Now it may take a 700 CID fulton motor with
4 kits to run that number, but that's within the rules, isn't it? I don't think that the turbo guys should be
penalized because the nitrous guys came out with a 350 and a plate.

[Boss Hogg]

LOL, you got my covered by a long shot. Actually what the TTT5 has done is hurt the little guy. Your not going to slow David down. You got to realize he has the best of the best. He has been building chassis's for a very long time, expecially mustangs. He has built some of the fastest in the nation. He has one of the best engine tunners in the nation, Job Spetter. He has a very good finacial backing. Everytime at the track you see his entire group helping with the car and what not. He runs his program very smooth and his results prove the hard work he and his group have in the program. The only way his car is gonna slow down, is if David decides to slow it down, but I really don't see that happening.
Stop it. You're making me blush.

[SNEAKY]

Stop it. You're making me blush.
took me a second, but LMAO