Budget LS1 turbo kit done cleanly

[Beenfetchedlately]

With a flowmaster y......Looks good. Better then some budget kits ive seen. :cool:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2724698&postcount=183

[Lane]

Interesting.

[Monsoon X]

Interesting.

You need an engine first. :mad: ;)

[JOHN]

With a flowmaster y......Looks good. Better then some budget kits ive seen. :cool:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2724698&postcount=183


HA HA HA

[Cooter]

looks like shit

:rolleyes:

[SNEAKY]

i hope he is better with a grinder then his is a welder ;)

that was for all of the pro car builders on this site.

i think it looks cool.

[spankustang]

Looks slow!!! :p

[TOMMY]

You need an engine first. :mad: ;)


He has one........ ;)

[Monsoon X]

He has one........ ;)

He better not. He knows why. :mad:

[Dacotua]

Only problem with the location is that you have to have a electric oil pump or some sort of sump pump, to pump the oil from the turbo back to the engine

[TOMMY]

He better not. He knows why. :mad:

Why?!?!?!?!

[SNEAKY]

Only problem with the location is that you have to have a electric oil pump or some sort of sump pump, to pump the oil from the turbo back to the engine


no problem, it is done all of the time.

[302_plus_a_few]

What's with the triagular flanges? Looks good other than that.

[SNEAKY]

What's with the triagular flanges? Looks good other than that.


factory manifolds?

[Beenfetchedlately]

Only problem with the location is that you have to have a electric oil pump or some sort of sump pump, to pump the oil from the turbo back to the engine

This is a budget kit and comes with everything needed to install it. Im sure they have that covered there little buddy.

M

[Beenfetchedlately]

What's with the triagular flanges? Looks good other than that.
Budget equals FACTORY manifolds in the normal locations and all...Dont have to flip them around or nothing. Built to do 6psi with no intercooler. Anything after that you will need to have a FMIC and build your own charge pipes. I can see the kit making around 600 with no intercooler and alky injection.

Mike

[Cooter]

i think it looks cool.

I wish people would quit saying that... it looks like shit. If I ever build a turbo kit, it sure as hell isn't going to use a Flowmaster Y!! LOL!!!

[Cooter]

and LOL at the stock manifolds... if I ever build a kit, it sure as hell won't use stock manifolds!! LOL!

[Beenfetchedlately]

I wish people would quit saying that... it looks like shit. If I ever build a turbo kit, it sure as hell isn't going to use a Flowmaster Y!! LOL!!!

Its budget Cooter..A clean budget build...Just shows you with a little time and a non-hack artist doing it, they can come out clean.

That kit actually is very clean considering the crap ive seen posted her..LMFAO!

Mike

[SNEAKY]

I wish people would quit saying that... it looks like shit. If I ever build a turbo kit, it sure as hell isn't going to use a Flowmaster Y!! LOL!!!


but they are already made :confused:

[Cooter]

horse shit... you're saying it because it's an LS1...

[Cooter]

but they are already made :confused:

bad asses make their own Y pipes... I've never actually done it, but if I was going to build a turbo kit, I would...

[302_plus_a_few]

Budget equals FACTORY manifolds in the normal locations and all...Dont have to flip them around or nothing. Built to do 6psi with no intercooler. Anything after that you will need to have a FMIC and build your own charge pipes. I can see the kit making around 600 with no intercooler and alky injection.Never paid much attention to the stock exhaust manifolds on LS1s.

How can you put an FMIC on an F-body with no way to get air to it? It would most likely have to be a air/water setup for it to be efficient.

[momo stallion]

honestly i think its pretty nice. how much $$ is budget?

[SNEAKY]

bad asses make their own Y pipes... I've never actually done it, but if I was going to build a turbo kit, I would...


but that take at least an extra 2 hours of fab time. :confused:

[Wario]

honestly i think its pretty nice. how much $$ is budget?


2600.00$

Cool idea but the guy welds like Ray Charles.

[302_plus_a_few]

honestly i think its pretty nice. how much $$ is budget?http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29510

In this pic alone I see
4 - 2.5" bends at about $18 each.
1 - 3" bend at about $25
1 - Flowmaster collector at $37
2 - O2 bungs at $8 each
1 - TO4 flage at $20
2 - stock collector flages (probably free)

Not in this pic but still necessary is:
1 - Wastegate at $350 to $450
1 - Turbo at $700-$1500 (depending on size and new/used)
1 - Blow Off valve for $180 to $300
1 - 5 feet of silicon hose for the vacuum ports
1 - Various fittings for the vacuum hoses.
1 - Couplers to connect the turbo to the outlet and throttle body (figure $50 - conservatively)
4 - t-bolt clamps at $12 each.
- oil supply lines for the turbo
- oil return lines for the turbo and AN fittings as well
- probably an oil pump for the oil return.

[Beenfetchedlately]

Never paid much attention to the stock exhaust manifolds on LS1s.

How can you put an FMIC on an F-body with no way to get air to it? It would most likely have to be a air/water setup for it to be efficient.
Run a search on the websites....It can be done!!!

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

honestly i think its pretty nice. how much $$ is budget?
$2350.00

[Beenfetchedlately]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29510

In this pic alone I see
4 - 2.5" bends at about $18 each.
1 - 3" bend at about $25
1 - Flowmaster collector at $37
2 - O2 bungs at $8 each
1 - TO4 flage at $20
2 - stock collector flages (probably free)

Not in this pic but still necessary is:
1 - Wastegate at $350 to $450
1 - Turbo at $700-$1500 (depending on size and new/used)
1 - Blow Off valve for $180 to $300
1 - 5 feet of silicon hose for the vacuum ports
1 - Various fittings for the vacuum hoses.
1 - Couplers to connect the turbo to the outlet and throttle body (figure $50 - conservatively)
4 - t-bolt clamps at $12 each.
- oil supply lines for the turbo
- oil return lines for the turbo and AN fittings as well
- probably an oil pump for the oil return.


The bends for 2.5" and 3" cost $13 a bend :) But thats besides the point since you are looking at retail figures here.

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

i hope he is better with a grinder then his is a welder ;)

that was for all of the pro car builders on this site.

i think it looks cool.

Those welds look nice :confused: Looks like he tigged it all up, personally?

Mike

[SNEAKY]

Those welds look nice :confused: Looks like he tigged it all up, personally?

Mike


i am no expert, but the up pipe right before the bend looks mig'd to me.

[GR8WHITE]

I thought LS-1's didn't like boost? I know, that's what I get for thinking....

[SUX2BU]

That car doesn't look lowered. mines not lowered and it sits ALOT lower than that. And i wouldn't pot that on a daily driver considering all the speed bumps and pot holes out there. maybe for one of these old guys that only drives it on the weekend out to the local hang out.
And the welds look alright for being a budget kit.
KEYWORD: BUDGET PEOPLE!

[Lane]

and LOL at the stock manifolds... if I ever build a kit, it sure as hell won't use stock manifolds!! LOL!

Actually - the '01+ manifolds flow very well.

[dankstang]

Interesting...that guy is from Portland
yaaay. maybe he'll have a cheapy turbo kit for me

[Lane]

It looks mig'd to me too, and other than the one weld Sneaky pointed out, the others look like pretty nice 'stitch' welds to me.

[momo stallion]

so $2350 buys you the whole kit with the turbo or is that just what this person has into it?

hell of a deal.

[Dacotua]

This is a budget kit and comes with everything needed to install it. Im sure they have that covered there little buddy.

M

Those Electric Oil Pumps for turbochargers that so low that do not allow for gravity return lines are EXPENSIVE. 450+

[Beenfetchedlately]

so $2350 buys you the whole kit with the turbo or is that just what this person has into it?

hell of a deal.

That is a sponsor on that website...Thats what they are selling the kit for. My guess is this is to corner the market and bring all the business to them. Put the rear turbo company out of business im sure. lol

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

Those Electric Oil Pumps for turbochargers that so low that do not allow for gravity return lines are EXPENSIVE. 450+

Like I said...they have it covered ;)

Mike

[momo stallion]

That is a sponsor on that website...Thats what they are selling the kit for. My guess is this is to corner the market and bring all the business to them. Put the rear turbo company out of business im sure. lol

Mike


cool, i will tell my friend with a ws6. too bad he just went nitrous and spent a crap load getting there.

[NDSP]

So your going to compare a company's production turbo kit( be it 'budget' or not) with a DIYer's home built kit and actually think your making a point of some kind. Gotcha.

I sure hope who ever buys that kit lives in a nice flat place with very good roads. ;)

[302_plus_a_few]

So your going to compare a company's production turbo kit( be it 'budget' or not) with a DIYer's home built kit and actually think your making a point of some kind. Gotcha.

I sure hope who ever buys that kit lives in a nice flat place with very good roads. ;)This is a company putting this kit out???

**Edit**:

Never mind. Found the website: http://www.phamspeed.com

[Beenfetchedlately]

So your going to compare a company's production turbo kit( be it 'budget' or not) with a DIYer's home built kit and actually think your making a point of some kind. Gotcha.

I sure hope who ever buys that kit lives in a nice flat place with very good roads. ;)

this car is actually lowered with 2" drop spring..I personally thought it was sitting a little high in the pics but They say it has nice ground clearance.

He started off as a DIY'er so yes because he does good work has turned it into a business...Whats wrong with that? Its neat and it shows.

Mike

[302_plus_a_few]

this car is actually lowered with 2" drop spring..I personally thought it was sitting a little high in the pics but They say it has nice ground clearance.

He started off as a DIY'er so yes because he does good work has turned it into a business...Whats wrong with that? Its neat and it shows.Hey, if I did it for a living, I'd have me a TIG to make the welds all pretty as well. :rolleyes:

[Cooter]

but that take at least an extra 2 hours of fab time. :confused:

2hrs nothin'!! making a really nice Y is a bitch! :(

[Cooter]

Actually - the '01+ manifolds flow very well.

probably not as well as aftermarket mustang shorties, but they get made fun of all the time by LS1 guys :rolleyes:

[Beenfetchedlately]

probably not as well as aftermarket mustang shorties, but they get made fun of all the time by LS1 guys :rolleyes: I think I laugh at the collector itself on the shorties..lol

[SNEAKY]

I think I laugh at the collector itself on the shorties..lol


what, the ball and socket still being on there?

[302_plus_a_few]

I think I laugh at the collector itself on the shorties..lolYea, that doesn't work worth a shit does it? :cool:

[Cooter]

I'm still waiting for Mike to show everyone else how it's done ;) :p :D

[Beenfetchedlately]

Yea, that doesn't work worth a shit does it? :cool:

They just look short and stubby...They could have been easily modified and a HVMC welded in its place instead and then build a kit from there...

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

I'm still waiting for Mike to show everyone else how it's done ;) :p :D
Too broke to pay attention...LOL

[SNEAKY]

http://www.hvmc.com/sign_new.jpg

http://www.coolrunning.co.nz/races/pelorus/images/hvmc.gif

[Cooter]

Too broke to pay attention...LOL

right there w/ ya! :o

:D

[302_plus_a_few]

They just look short and stubby...They could have been easily modified and a HVMC welded in its place instead and then build a kit from there...

MikeHVMC?? Hutto Vaginal Mastabatory Clinic????

Short and stubby? Isn't that why they call them shorties?

[SNEAKY]

HVMC?? Hutto Vaginal Mastabatory Clinic????

Short and stubby? Isn't that why they call them shorties?

i am thinking it has something to do with V band clamps

[302_plus_a_few]

i am thinking it has something to do with V band clampshttp://www.proturbokits.com/images/prods/MVC-141F.JPG

Like Pro Turbo Kits does theirs?

[Cooter]

high velocity merge collectors...

expensive and would look kinda funky poking through the hood :confused:

[Beenfetchedlately]

http://www.hvmc.com/sign_new.jpg

http://www.coolrunning.co.nz/races/pelorus/images/hvmc.gif
Let me help out the dumbasses in the thread like yourself....

H=High
V=Velocity
M=Merge
C=Collectors

There...Does that make sense to the retard now?

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

HVMC?? Hutto Vaginal Mastabatory Clinic????

Short and stubby? Isn't that why they call them shorties?

LMFAO!!! Good one! HAHAA

I am the clit commander...Wherever you see the clit you will see my face....

Jay and Silent bob quote!

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

high velocity merge collectors...

expensive and would look kinda funky poking through the hood :confused:

Why would you have them poking out the hood? :confused:

M

[302_plus_a_few]

LMFAO!!! Good one! HAHAA

I am the clit commander...Wherever you see the clit you will see my face....Are you saying your face is a vagina with a big ole clit? :confused:

[SNEAKY]

Let me help out the dumbasses in the thread like yourself....

H=High
V=Velocity
M=Merge
C=Collectors

There...Does that make sense to the retard now?

Mike


oh, the pain, that struck right where it hurts.

sig check mr master mechanic/craftsman/car builder/welder/ect....

[SNEAKY]

Are you saying your face is a vagina with a big ole clit? :confused:


please delete that. i may never look at a pussy the same again.

[Lane]

probably not as well as aftermarket mustang shorties, but they get made fun of all the time by LS1 guys :rolleyes:

They could use an LS1 shorty too, but they haven't shown to flow much better than the stockers either. '01+ that is - anything before is junk. Now, get some newer Vetter style, or GTO manifolds, and they'll flow like LT's.. :)

[Cooter]

merge collectors need a low backpressure exhaust system to function properly... a turbine creates a lot of back pressure. I guess I could see using high dollar collectors directly in front of the turbo... I just envisioned you talking about a twin setup w/ the headers flipped.

doesn't a proper collector need equal length primaries to be worth a fuck anyhow? :confused:

merge collectors on a budget turbo setup are just high priced eye candy... well, I guess they wouldn't be high priced if you're building them yourself ;) :p :D

Forrest

[Cooter]

They could use an LS1 shorty too, but they haven't shown to flow much better than the stockers either. '01+ that is - anything before is junk. Now, get some newer Vetter style, or GTO manifolds, and they'll flow like LT's.. :)

Lane, quit trying to take me seriously, I'm just fucking with Mike! :D

dyno shows no difference between aftermarket mustang shorties and STOCK mustang shorties on a stock headed JY turbo setup!

turbos create so much backpressure, lots of header/manifold theory flies out the window... about the only thing that will benefit you is equal length primaries, and even that is splitting hairs when talking about a true "budget" endeavour

Forrest

[PooterWS6]

He has one........ ;)
Do tell!

[Cmarsh93z]

There is a bunch of haterrade being drank in this thread. I hope ya'll are just hating on mike and not Phamspeed. Phamspeed seems to be a good guy, and does really nice work. His is a pic of some headers that happen to be going to a local LS1 installing a 91-100mm turbo. And I belive these are stainless 321, TIG welded just for Kirk :)

And for you non welding fools hating.. :rolleyes:

[Cooter]

yes, I'm fucking with Mike because he seems to be the board expert and judge/jury on budget turbo kits but he's never actually built one!!! :D

I see nothing wrong w/ that LS1 kit...

I just think it's funny that if it was a mustang kit, Mike's eyes would be doing backflips in his skull and he'd be saying how shitty it looked! LOL!

just giving him a hard time ;) :p

[Beenfetchedlately]

Are you saying your face is a vagina with a big ole clit? :confused:
If the girl is sitting on my face then yes!
lol

:rolleyes:

[Beenfetchedlately]

yes, I'm fucking with Mike because he seems to be the board expert and judge/jury on budget turbo kits but he's never actually built one!!! :D

I see nothing wrong w/ that LS1 kit...

I just think it's funny that if it was a mustang kit, Mike's eyes would be doing backflips in his skull and he'd be saying how shitty it looked! LOL!

just giving him a hard time ;) :p
Actually Cooter...if it looked clean I wouldnt be hating..I dont care if its going on a Ford Pinto. ;)

I just see people lying in posts saying shit looks clean when it in reality looks like a 5 year old design it and helen keller welded it up.

Mike :)

[Beenfetchedlately]

oh, the pain, that struck right where it hurts.

sig check mr master mechanic/craftsman/car builder/welder/ect....

so you are sayiing you have no brain? I figure that was water behind the glasses floating around with gold fish swimming around.

Mike

[Phoenix383]

\ It would most likely have to be a air/water setup for it to be efficient.


Even better IMO why waste time with the FMIC when you have a whole in the back of an F-Body to stick and Icebox?

[SNEAKY]

Actually Cooter...if it looked clean I wouldnt be hating..I dont care if its going on a Ford Pinto. ;)

I just see people lying in posts saying shit looks clean when it in reality looks like a 5 year old design it and helen keller welded it up.

Mike :)

and the setup he is building does not look any better then 75% of what the DYI mustang crowd puts together. but you are the first person to slam on everyone else work, but you are saying that this guys stuff looks good. to me it does look fine, and i like the idea, but it does not look any better then what Kirk has put together on his first atempt to put a turbo on his car.
and as far as HVMC goes, i have never heard of those before, so if that makes me a retard in your eyes, ah well. i deal with shit everyday, that i am sure you have never heard of, so if i told you i needed a D2 Gonvenor, and you did not know what i needed. does that make you a retard?

[Beenfetchedlately]

Even better IMO why waste time with the FMIC when you have a whole in the back of an F-Body to stick and Icebox?

This is a street kit budget type setup and it will run up to 6psi safely....Over that then a FMIC would be ideal for a street setup..Now if it was a drag only setup then a heat exchanger with ice would be ideal.

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

and the setup he is building does not look any better then 75% of what the DYI mustang crowd puts together. but you are the first person to slam on everyone else work, but you are saying that this guys stuff looks good. to me it does look fine, and i like the idea, but it does not look any better then what Kirk has put together on his first atempt to put a turbo on his car.
and as far as HVMC goes, i have never heard of those before, so if that makes me a retard in your eyes, ah well. i deal with shit everyday, that i am sure you have never heard of, so if i told you i needed a D2 Gonvenor, and you did not know what i needed. does that make you a retard?

No it doesnt make me a retard....It makes you the retard because you cant even spell the point you are trying to make out. Kinda like the Coyote chasing the roadrunner. He never catches him because is so freaking retarded like yourself!

M

[Beenfetchedlately]

and the setup he is building does not look any better then 75% of what the DYI mustang crowd puts together. but you are the first person to slam on everyone else work, but you are saying that this guys stuff looks good. to me it does look fine, and i like the idea, but it does not look any better then what Kirk has put together on his first atempt to put a turbo on his car.
and as far as HVMC goes, i have never heard of those before, so if that makes me a retard in your eyes, ah well. i deal with shit everyday, that i am sure you have never heard of, so if i told you i needed a D2 Gonvenor, and you did not know what i needed. does that make you a retard?

No being car enthusiasts as we are, you should know what a HVMC is. They been around longer then you and I! Your point is moot.

Mike

[302_plus_a_few]

No being car enthusiasts as we are, you should know what a HVMC is.Who cares? When's your car going to be ready?

[Phoenix383]

This is a street kit budget type setup and it will run up to 6psi safely....Over that then a FMIC would be ideal for a street setup..Now if it was a drag only setup then a heat exchanger with ice would be ideal.

Mike

Mike you can use a heat exhcnager on the street they take less room than the FMIC if done correctly.

[Monsoon X]

Who cares? When's your car going to be ready?

When yours is down for repairs or upgrades.

[SNEAKY]

No being car enthusiasts as we are, you should know what a HVMC is. They been around longer then you and I! Your point is moot.

Mike


i have heard of a merge collector, i have just never had any use for one, and i have not heard it referred to a HVMC. sorry that i bring to IQ AVG. of the board down.

[Danny]

/the class dumbass raises his hand

I thought iron log manifolds were good for turbo systems, since the turbine is driven by heat energy more than it is driven by exhaust pressure. That's why all the pros heat wrap their thin primary tubes.. insulation to keep energy in the exhaust. I bet the LS1 factory manifolds ('01+) flow plenty for what that guy is trying to achieve.


But I dunno, I've never built anything like that.

[302_plus_a_few]

When yours is down for repairs or upgrades.Probably.

I think Reid is going to bust that ass as well.

[PooterWS6]

/the class dumbass raises his hand

I thought iron log manifolds were good for turbo systems, since the turbine is driven by heat energy more than it is driven by exhaust pressure. That's why all the pros heat wrap their thin primary tubes.. insulation to keep energy in the exhaust. I bet the LS1 factory manifolds ('01+) flow plenty for what that guy is trying to achieve.


But I dunno, I've never built anything like that.
Yes.
Most of the time they go to custom headers is for fitment and placement of piping/turbo, as the manifolds dont always(but sometimes still do) lend themselves to fitting the best for a given setup.
For a budget build, Id make them work, as you said they work pretty efficiently.

[SNEAKY]

No it doesnt make me a retard....It makes you the retard because you cant even spell the point you are trying to make out. Kinda like the Coyote chasing the roadrunner. He never catches him because is so freaking retarded like yourself!

M


one freaking typo :rolleyes:

[Cooter]

Actually Cooter...if it looked clean I wouldnt be hating..I dont care if its going on a Ford Pinto. ;)

I just see people lying in posts saying shit looks clean when it in reality looks like a 5 year old design it and helen keller welded it up.

Mike :)

you know I'm just fucking with you man...

and I know the difference between a hack job and a top notch job... and you won't catch me calling a hack job super clean either...

but you will catch me saying "looks good" if everything looks like it will work well because that's all I give a shit about.

most guys don't have access to band saws, belt sanders, drill presses, plasma cutters, and TIG welders. but they can throw some shit together with a hack saw and a bubble gum MIG that'll make big power...

tail lights look the same no matter what's under the hood.

if you want super clean, you're not talking "budget" anymore... you can make your own Y's and HVMC's, but there's a reason Burns gets $450 for a single merge collector w/ v-band flange... because they're a pain in the ass to build... and why spend all that time to build one out of mild? might as well do it out of stainless... hope you've got the TIG!

all of a sudden the price goes from $500 to $5000 because you have to buy the necessary tools... might as well just buy a fuckin' kit and save yourself a lot of headache! LOL!

we're still waiting for you to show us how to build a "clean" budget turbo setup ;)

Forrest

[302_plus_a_few]

tail lights look the same no matter what's under the hood.Amen!we're still waiting for you to show us how to build a "clean" budget turbo setup ;)No doubt! Post up some pics when you are done with that project Mike!

[slowbrick]

My head hurts, hvmd's, pvc ect....going to get a book to read this stuff. :confused:


just kidding learning alot of worthless information.

[Beenfetchedlately]

Mike you can use a heat exhcnager on the street they take less room than the FMIC if done correctly.

Its the ice water that the problem is though ;) Having to constantly stop and refill with ice was my concern.

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

you know I'm just fucking with you man...

and I know the difference between a hack job and a top notch job... and you won't catch me calling a hack job super clean either...

but you will catch me saying "looks good" if everything looks like it will work well because that's all I give a shit about.

most guys don't have access to band saws, belt sanders, drill presses, plasma cutters, and TIG welders. but they can throw some shit together with a hack saw and a bubble gum MIG that'll make big power...

tail lights look the same no matter what's under the hood.

if you want super clean, you're not talking "budget" anymore... you can make your own Y's and HVMC's, but there's a reason Burns gets $450 for a single merge collector w/ v-band flange... because they're a pain in the ass to build... and why spend all that time to build one out of mild? might as well do it out of stainless... hope you've got the TIG!

all of a sudden the price goes from $500 to $5000 because you have to buy the necessary tools... might as well just buy a fuckin' kit and save yourself a lot of headache! LOL!

we're still waiting for you to show us how to build a "clean" budget turbo setup ;)

Forrest
I agree with you completely. I told i wasnt building one anytime soon...No dinero.

I drove my car to work Kirk. But, i do have some sidework in the garage tonight and i sold some old stuff that i dont use. Next weekend just might be possible but im not getting my hopes up just yet. Its too soon and I dont want to throw a fast tune on the car. This is got to be my daily for right now til i figure out what is wrong with this new hoop ride, a Mercury Mistake has wrong with it. ;)

Mike

[Beenfetchedlately]

one freaking typo :rolleyes:Typos are cool....But not when its the main subject matter. :rolleyes: :D

[Beenfetchedlately]

i have heard of a merge collector, i have just never had any use for one, and i have not heard it referred to a HVMC. sorry that i bring to IQ AVG. of the board down.

Please think clearly and type cleary...It gives me a headache!!!! :cool:

[90GT50]

Mike, does this kit get your approval, oh mighty turbo manifold master?:p
http://www.bgturbo.com/store/images/full%20hot%20bare%20kit.JPG

[SNEAKY]

Please think clearly and type cleary...It gives me a headache!!!! :cool:


that has gotta hurt

[302_plus_a_few]

that has got hurtLMAO!!

<marquee>SMACK!!</marquee>

[Beenfetchedlately]

Mike, does this kit get your approval, oh mighty turbo manifold master?:p
http://www.bgturbo.com/store/images/full%20hot%20bare%20kit.JPG
Honestly.























































It looks good! ;)

[Beenfetchedlately]

that has gotta hurt
I have an excuse I can actually type as fast as I think and talk...What is your excuse????

[SNEAKY]

I have an excuse I can actually type as fast as I think and talk...What is your excuse????


hey, typos happen, and when i am doing something for work, i care. when it is on here, i don't.

[302_plus_a_few]

I have an excuse I can actually type as fast as I think and talk.They still make computers that slow? :confused:

[Beenfetchedlately]

They still make computers that slow? :confused:

Slow enough for Sneaky to get on...HAHA :p

[90GT50]

Honestly.

It looks good! ;)Thanks for your approval, lol.

[Blue99Ws7]

Those Electric Oil Pumps for turbochargers that so low that do not allow for gravity return lines are EXPENSIVE. 450+

You don't need one you tap into the spot above the oil filter on the ls1 to supply the oil and it's gravity drain back into the lower part of the pan. So it's complete.

Are you guys happy now? LoL hope that clears things up

[SNEAKY]

You don't need one you tap into the spot above the oil filter on the ls1 to supply the oil and it's gravity drain back into the lower part of the pan. So it's complete.

Are you guys happy now? LoL hope that clears things up
do you have anyidea what is it being discussed?

[302_plus_a_few]

do you have anyidea what is it being discussed?Don't think he has a freakin clue.

[SNEAKY]

Don't think he has a freakin clue.
he must be more retarded than me.

[Blue99Ws7]

do you have anyidea what is it being discussed?


You guys are talking bout how good or bad a turbo kit is put together depending on the welds. And it's a budget kit. I was implying you dont need an electric oil pump. I must in the retard forum, hahhaha j/k, you guys crack me up sometimes, or just maybe I'm retarded that's why I fit in with you guys, lol.

[SNEAKY]

You guys are talking bout how good or bad a turbo kit is put together depending on the welds. And it's a budget kit. I was implying you dont need an electric oil pump. I must in the retard forum, hahhaha j/k, you guys crack me up sometimes, or just maybe I'm retarded that's why I fit in with you guys, lol.
ok, a low mount turbo set up does require a pump to return the oil to the pan. you are correct about it being gravity returned on the normal setup, but this one is below the level of the oil, and the last i check, gravity pulls downs hill, not up. do you see why i was giving you a hard time now?

[black90gt5.0]

looks like one of my welds :(

[Cmarsh93z]

What pictures are ya'll looking at? Looks like the flange for the turbo is sitting level with the top of the oilpan, which would put the drain well above the oil level. I don't really see the need for a pump on this kit..does he say it is neccesary, OR is everyone just talking out their ass again?

Chris

[SUX2BU]

What pictures are ya'll looking at? Looks like the flange for the turbo is sitting level with the top of the oilpan, which would put the drain well above the oil level. I don't really see the need for a pump on this kit..does he say it is neccesary, OR is everyone just talking out their ass again?

Chris
i vote talking out of their ass.

[Blue99Ws7]

What pictures are ya'll looking at? Looks like the flange for the turbo is sitting level with the top of the oilpan, which would put the drain well above the oil level. I don't really see the need for a pump on this kit..does he say it is neccesary, OR is everyone just talking out their ass again?

Chris


That's what I was trying to say!!!!! aparently they dont know much bout ls1's.

[Blue99Ws7]

ok, a low mount turbo set up does require a pump to return the oil to the pan. you are correct about it being gravity returned on the normal setup, but this one is below the level of the oil, and the last i check, gravity pulls downs hill, not up. do you see why i was giving you a hard time now?


No, the turbo is above the oil pan. The turbos are mounted bout as high as the icon twin turbo, turbo technology kit, they all sit bout this hight and that doesn't require a pump. Why would this?

[Dacotua]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29508

The Drain portion on the bottom of the turbo NEEDS to be HIGHER than the oil level of the pan. Is not near that. The above setup NEEDS A PUMP.

On a incon kit, the turbos are small and are above the pan itself.

[Beenfetchedlately]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29508

The Drain portion on the bottom of the turbo NEEDS to be HIGHER than the oil level of the pan. Is not near that. The above setup NEEDS A PUMP.

On a incon kit, the turbos are small and are above the pan itself.

Looks about 6 inches above the pan if you ask me!

Mike

[Blue99Ws7]

Looks about 6 inches above the pan if you ask me!

Mike


He must not relize how low the pan is on an ls1. The back half of the pan is way lower than the front. That's where the oil would drain to. Anyways I give up. You guys go buy the damn 400 dollar electric oil pump. I'm not I'll stick to what I know and I'm sure the guy/company knows what there doing.

[Blue99Ws7]

Do these look like there are blow the oil pan?

[SNEAKY]

so how did this car run?

[302_plus_a_few]

It must've blown up!

[SNEAKY]

It must've blown up!
actually, i am curious. wondering how it ran using the manifolds.

[SNEAKY]

Still Never Got An Answer On This.

[Blue99Ws7]

i can't even remember what car this was on.