Weight reduction. 4cyl coupe

[Monsoon X]

Break them down in

"Free" mods and "Money Mods"

What can I do to lighten this thing up?

[Andrew]

Break them down in

"Free" mods and "Money Mods"

What can I do to lighten this thing up?

Quit eating - FREE

[Beenfetchedlately]

Break them down in

"Free" mods and "Money Mods"

What can I do to lighten this thing up?

Cut out the rear seat bracing.

Cheese hole the rear speaker deck.

Call all unused bracketry out. Shed the quad shocks.

Cheese hole the bumper supports themselves or remove them completely.

Anywhere you have steel brackets in use, try to replicate them in aluminum.

Im sure ill think of more.

[PooterWS6]

Really how gutted do you want it?

Or still daily driver material?

Pull the dash, put in a lil piece of aluminum for gauges, all the sound deadener, door panels, etc.

[SNEAKY]

cut all of the rusted areas out :D

[Monsoon X]

Really how gutted do you want it?

Or still daily driver material?

Pull the dash, put in a lil piece of aluminum for gauges, all the sound deadener, door panels, etc.

Daily driver material.

[Danny]

ask Forrest :)

[Monsoon X]

cut all of the rusted areas out :D

I'd be left with a go-kart

[PooterWS6]

Daily driver material.
For some that is a realtive term. ;)

When I got TOMMYs old coupe, all it had in it was a drivers seat and dash.

[Monsoon X]

For some that is a realtive term. ;)

When I got TOMMYs old coupe, all it had in it was a drivers seat and dash.


I never intend for this car to grow into a track hoe. From mild to wild with a few adjustments and clicks+ comfortable race seats.

[Lane]

So - you want A/C and heat? :)

[Monsoon X]

So - you want A/C and heat? :)

Heck yeah. It feels like:

420 Holy Crap
North Condemned, Hell 75666

in the summer time around here.

[DON SVO]

I'd be left with a go-kart

but a quick go-cart!!! :D

as for weight savings, i did all this to the SVO:

no quad shocks, no bumper supports, no swaybars, PS delete, AC delete, pulled the dash and removed all HVAC & heater core stuff, scraped all sound deadener off the floorpan, no carpet padding, no backseat, cut out most of the door/rear quarter framing, tubular suspension, lived on water for 25 days to knock 12 pounds off of me (joke)... you kinda get the idea.

pretty much, devote a saturday to removing the interior and going to town in the door/quarter panels with a sawzall, heating up and scraping the deadener, and pulling the dash to remove the HVAC stuff if you want.

[PooterWS6]

Heck yeah. It feels like:

420 Holy Crap
North Condemned, Hell 75666

in the summer time around here.

Puss.
Even in the summertime I never use the AC, I can stand the heat, its not that bad as long as your moving, if you sit in traffic though, then its hot as hell. :p

You wanted to save weight, cant save weight without getting rid of the comodities, youd be suprised(im sure you already know) what all that crap weighs.

[302_plus_a_few]

Cut out the rear seat bracing.

Cheese hole the rear speaker deck.

Call all unused bracketry out. Shed the quad shocks.

Cheese hole the bumper supports themselves or remove them completely.

Anywhere you have steel brackets in use, try to replicate them in aluminum.

Im sure ill think of more.I wouldn't waste my time on any of the above unless you're trying to make a race car except for the quad shocks. You won't get much from it. The speaker deck is 18-20ga steel and you might get a pound if you cheese hole that.

The rear bumper is heavy but if it is a street car, I wouldn't remove it. The front one really isn't worth removing since it is fiberglass.

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- Remove the dog bone on top of the rear end housing.
- GT style seats weigh 42lbs (manual) and 48lbs(electric). Light weight seats will help a bunch there. My Kirkey ready to bolt in with cover weighs 23lbs.
- D&D K-member will get you 32lbs. If you do a coilover conversion with tubular A-arms it will remove 72lbs.
- Weld wheels remove about 65lbs on my car (pony rims)
- Aluminum drive shaft removes 8lbs.
- Small starter removes 6lbs.
- A/C system removes 38lbs.
- Manual rack removes 16lbs
- Scraping all of the sound deadening and insulation off of the carpet and floor will remove 52lbs on a hatchback. But.... You will hear everything outside of the car with annoying clarity.
- Cutting the door braces out of the doors will remove 22lbs. But I wouldn't do it on a street car (mine are still in).
- Converting to a single exhaust after turbo install from LX tailpipes removes 36lbs.
- Rear seat deletes aren't worth it. The rear seat in a coupe is light.
- Front sway bar weights 26lbs. I'd leave the back one on.

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Where you will have to add weight
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- Wolfe 6pt roll bar weighs 80lbs
- Bigger radiator will weigh more.
- Tranny cooler adds weight
- The difference in a T5/fly wheel/clutch and a an AOD/flex plate/converter is about 70lbs. The DOA is a P-I-G.
- My turbo system adds 56lbs to my car.

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My car weighs 2990 without me in it ready to race with 1/8th tank of gas.

[TOMMY]

Tubular front-in with a LS1 sitting on top. LOL! :D . My 4cyclinder coupe was pretty light. It weight 2815 without driver. And all I did was delete the AC/Heat stuff took passenger seat, deleted back seat. The Crow is light as a feather compared to my old coupe.

[Monsoon X]

Are the 4cyl coupes inherently lighter than their GT counterparts? (engine weight excluded)


Plans for this year:

-Mac full exhaust (shortys,ORH,catback)
-lowering springs
-tune
-3.27s?
-3000 Street Edge converter 3.0 STR
-15x8 (too much?) Rear Draglites and 15" Nittos 15x3.5s up front.
-suspension (not sure what setup or which parts. I'm still researching)

[302_plus_a_few]

Are the 4cyl coupes inherently lighter than their GT counterparts? (engine weight excluded)


Plans for this year:

-Mac full exhaust (shortys,ORH,catback)
-lowering springs
-tune
-3.27s?
-3000 Street Edge converter 3.0 STR
-15x8 (too much?) Rear Draglites and 15" Nittos 15x3.5s up front.
-suspension (not sure what setup or which parts. I'm still researching)The coupes weight 90lbs less than a LX hatchback. It was mostly all in the hatch which weighs close to 100lbs. A GT Hatchback has all of that ground effects crap on top of that.

I've got 15x6 Welds on the front of my car with some 205 tires on them. The car still stops and drives like it has the stock wheels on it. 15x8 with 5.5 back spacine are perfect for a coupe. Put some drag radials on those and you are set.

[Monsoon X]

The coupes weight 90lbs less than a LX hatchback. It was mostly all in the hatch which weighs close to 100lbs. A GT Hatchback has all of that ground effects crap on top of that.

I've got 15x6 Welds on the front of my car with some 205 tires on them. The car still stops and drives like it has the stock wheels on it. 15x8 with 5.5 back spacine are perfect for a coupe. Put some drag radials on those and you are set.


The 15x3.5s will be for track only. I'll roll the turbines (until I do a five lug conversion, next year) for daily driving.

[Monsoon X]

Think I can run some 8s with that combo?

[turbostang]

When I had my old LX hatch it weighed 3050 w/ skinnies and aluminum heads. It had rollup windows and otherwise it was completely stock. We just weighed Josh's car (truestreet5.8) it came in at 3040 with driver. Full cage, No accessories and nothing "cut" out. It has a Windsor/Turbo/C4.

My current car in stock form with Cobra R's and NOTHING removed weighed in at less than 3100. It's been a while since I wieghed it so I don't remember exactly what it weighed. Both of my cars were weighed in on the same scale also.. They are lighter than you'd expect.

[Monsoon X]

When I had my old LX hatch it weighed 3050 w/ skinnies and aluminum heads. It had rollup windows and otherwise it was completely stock. We just weighed Josh's car (truestreet5.8) it came in at 3040 with driver. Full cage, No accessories and nothing "cut" out. It has a Windsor/Turbo/C4.

My current car in stock form with Cobra R's and NOTHING removed weighed in at less than 3100. It's been a while since I wieghed it so I don't remember exactly what it weighed. Both of my cars were weighed in on the same scale also.. They are lighter than you'd expect.

I see. Good. Can I run some 8s with that combo?

[JamesB]

replace all the steel bolts on the car with titanium bolts, The rear bulk head can be entirely removed and replaced with aluminium to mantain a factory look, remove rear seats, sound deadner, etc.. If you would be willing to remove the ac/heater stuff, you could also loose all the excess wireing in the car and build your own harness. All that copper gets heavy. If you don't want to remove the bumpers since it will be street driven, you can replace the bumber crash bars with aluminium bars. Aluminium 5 gallon fuel cell, less gas in car ;)

[Andrew]

Aluminum radiator will take some weight off.

Move the battery to the trunk.

[Cooter]

this is just a general comment about threads like this... including this one, but not necesarily directed at just you...

but...

how hard is it to understand?

remove things that aren't necessary, and replace necessary items with lighter ones...

:confused:

[302_plus_a_few]

this is just a general comment about threads like this... including this one, but not necesarily directed at just you...

but...

how hard is it to understand?

remove things that aren't necessary, and replace necessary items with lighter ones...

:confused:That's a given. Never hurts to enquire about the easy things that can be done on a specific car.

[Cooter]

That's a given. Never hurts to enquire about the easy things that can be done on a specific car.

but... it's the same for every car... :confused:

just go through the entire car and remove shit you don't need... and replace shit you do need with lighter shit...

they're cars... they generally have the same shit in them! LOL!

[302_plus_a_few]

Again, never hurts to ask about a specific car. Just trying to help the guy out. Which of the following two posts do feel is more helpful to someone about to start removing weight on their newly acquired Mustang Coupe????

this is just a general comment about threads like this... including this one, but not necesarily directed at just you...

but...

how hard is it to understand?

remove things that aren't necessary, and replace necessary items with lighter ones...

:confused:
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I wouldn't waste my time on any of the above unless you're trying to make a race car except for the quad shocks. You won't get much from it. The speaker deck is 18-20ga steel and you might get a pound if you cheese hole that.

The rear bumper is heavy but if it is a street car, I wouldn't remove it. The front one really isn't worth removing since it is fiberglass.

------------

- Remove the dog bone on top of the rear end housing.
- GT style seats weigh 42lbs (manual) and 48lbs(electric). Light weight seats will help a bunch there. My Kirkey ready to bolt in with cover weighs 23lbs.
- D&D K-member will get you 32lbs. If you do a coilover conversion with tubular A-arms it will remove 72lbs.
- Weld wheels remove about 65lbs on my car (pony rims)
- Aluminum drive shaft removes 8lbs.
- Small starter removes 6lbs.
- A/C system removes 38lbs.
- Manual rack removes 16lbs
- Scraping all of the sound deadening and insulation off of the carpet and floor will remove 52lbs on a hatchback. But.... You will hear everything outside of the car with annoying clarity.
- Cutting the door braces out of the doors will remove 22lbs. But I wouldn't do it on a street car (mine are still in).
- Converting to a single exhaust after turbo install from LX tailpipes removes 36lbs.
- Rear seat deletes aren't worth it. The rear seat in a coupe is light.
- Front sway bar weights 26lbs. I'd leave the back one on.

--------
Where you will have to add weight
--------

- Wolfe 6pt roll bar weighs 80lbs
- Bigger radiator will weigh more.
- Tranny cooler adds weight
- The difference in a T5/fly wheel/clutch and a an AOD/flex plate/converter is about 70lbs. The DOA is a P-I-G.
- My turbo system adds 56lbs to my car.

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My car weighs 2990 without me in it ready to race with 1/8th tank of gas.

[Monsoon X]

Cooter is a hater! :p

[Cooter]

Again, never hurts to ask about a specific car. Just trying to help the guy out. Which of the following two posts do feel is more helpful to someone about to start removing weight on their newly acquired Mustang Coupe????

not my fault you wasted 10 minutes rattling on a bunch of shit that could be easily found on a simple internet search. :D

Forrest

[Monsoon X]

DFWstangs is my home board. I wanna hear what you guys have to say. Not peeps from the Corral. :)

[302_plus_a_few]

not my fault you wasted 10 minutes rattling on a bunch of shit that could be easily found on a simple internet search. :D

ForrestLike I said, just helping the guy out.

Not my fault you chose to be a smart ass rather than help the guy out. :D

[Cooter]

give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day...

teach a man to catch his own fish, he'll eat for the rest of his life...

:p :D ;)

Forrest

[Futurama]

give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day...

teach a man to catch his own fish, he'll eat for the rest of his life...

:p :D ;)

Forrest
admit it, you just dont want to help monsoon X cuz he is black

[SNEAKY]

give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day...

teach a man to catch his own fish, he'll eat for the rest of his life...

:p :D ;)

Forrest

i do not like fish

[Cooter]

actually, it's the opposite... I like JC... I'd just like to see him think more like a hot rodder...

Forrest

[Cooter]

i do not like fish

you get to eat dirt

[SNEAKY]

you get to eat dirt


you could teach me how to rustle cattle :D

[momo stallion]

lmao!

[Cooter]

grandad never taught me how to slaughter a cow... just to clean fish... I have to buy my beef at the store :(

Forrest

[Monsoon X]

actually, it's the opposite... I like JC... I'd just like to see him think more like a hot rodder...

Forrest

I will, Mr. Forrest. I promise to make this little coupe, scoot for a N/A 302. 7s, w/bolt-ons? ;)

[SNEAKY]

JC, i have an aluiminum motor i will sell you. :D

[FatassLX]

this is just a general comment about threads like this... including this one, but not necesarily directed at just you...

but...

how hard is it to understand?

remove things that aren't necessary, and replace necessary items with lighter ones...

:confused:

post the pictures again of that swiss cheese coupe :D

[Cooter]

I will, Mr. Forrest. I promise to make this little coupe, scoot for a N/A 302. 7s, w/bolt-ons? ;)

they'd better be low 7's ;) :p

[Monsoon X]

they'd better be low 7's ;) :p

I said BOLT-ONS. ;)

[Cooter]

I said BOLT-ONS. ;)

look at grayhorse's coupe... nothing exotic there...

Forrest

[Cooter]

PS: nitrous is a bolt on ;)

[Cooter]

'course, you'd better be in the 6's on the hose

[Monsoon X]

look at grayhorse's coupe... nothing exotic there...

Forrest

stock long-block.................until next year

[Cooter]

stock long-block.................until next year

I've seen em go pretty fast

[Monsoon X]

Well hopefully I can pull some 7s out of it by the end of this year.

[GRAYHORSE]

D&D k memeber/coilovers/a arms only netted me 32lbs savings TOTAL.
Not 72lbs :confused:

[302_plus_a_few]

D&D k memeber/coilovers/a arms only netted me 32lbs savings TOTAL.
Not 72lbs :confused:Your scales are way off then...

[GRAYHORSE]

Your scales are way off then...


I weighed everything

[302_plus_a_few]

I weighed everythingSo did I.

[TRAXX]

Kirk's stock K member was laced with lead :D

I seem to remember the difference being in the low 60s for me, but was going to a beefier Griggs K member.

[302_plus_a_few]

Kirk's stock K member was laced with lead :D

I seem to remember the difference being in the low 60s for me, but was going to a beefier Griggs K member.It actually surprised me how light it was.