New best at Denton. Good, Bad & the Ugly

[CatDaddy]

Went to Denton on Saturday with Slow Five-O and SpeedyJC and we all got new bests. Track prep was ok considering the cool air, very little sun and only a few cars running to keep heat in the track.

The Good:
1.80 --- 60ft
4.90 --- 330ft
7.48 --- 1/8
96.36 - mph

The Bad:
Spun all the way thru 1st on that run. Ran later in the day after the big tire cars starting running and made better burnouts. Bogged it launching on the launch limiter at 4500 rpms. Was planning to raise the limiter to 5000 rpms but then the ugly began...

The Ugly:
After my first pass, there was a lot of coolant that had pushed out of the radiator cap and sprayed under the hood. Car never got hot during the run so I cleaned the rad cap seal and fastened it as tight as it would allow. Second pass, sprayed even more coolant and the temp never got over 185* on that pass. Swapped rad caps with SpeedyJC's car and tried again...same thing. My first thought went to head gasket :( I used Cometic head gaskets and new ARP head studs hoping to not blow head gaskets. Any other thoughts on what could cause coolant to push out of the rad cap :confused: And how can I test for blown head gasket other than engine dissassembly, heads won't come off the motor without the motor out of the car :mad: TIA

[Car-less Chris]

nice times..but that sucks!!

[superlopez]

Do a compression test or a leak down test.

Sorry to hear about the bad luck, but you did get a good time out of it.
Good Luck

[JMAC]

Congrats on the time! Sorry to hear about the motor though.

[Unc]

Went to Denton on Saturday with Slow Five-O and SpeedyJC and we all got new bests. Track prep was ok considering the cool air, very little sun and only a few cars running to keep heat in the track.

The Good:
1.80 --- 60ft
4.90 --- 330ft
7.48 --- 1/8
96.36 - mph

The Bad:
Spun all the way thru 1st on that run. Ran later in the day after the big tire cars starting running and made better burnouts. Bogged it launching on the launch limiter at 4500 rpms. Was planning to raise the limiter to 5000 rpms but then the ugly began...

The Ugly:
After my first pass, there was a lot of coolant that had pushed out of the radiator cap and sprayed under the hood. Car never got hot during the run so I cleaned the rad cap seal and fastened it as tight as it would allow. Second pass, sprayed even more coolant and the temp never got over 185* on that pass. Swapped rad caps with SpeedyJC's car and tried again...same thing. My first thought went to head gasket :( I used Cometic head gaskets and new ARP head studs hoping to not blow head gaskets. Any other thoughts on what could cause coolant to push out of the rad cap :confused: And how can I test for blown head gasket other than engine dissassembly, heads won't come off the motor without the motor out of the car :mad: TIA

Do a leak down test on each cylinder. Also, sometimes you can tell by looking at the plugs.

Unc

[Beenfetchedlately]

Went to Denton on Saturday with Slow Five-O and SpeedyJC and we all got new bests. Track prep was ok considering the cool air, very little sun and only a few cars running to keep heat in the track.

The Good:
1.80 --- 60ft
4.90 --- 330ft
7.48 --- 1/8
96.36 - mph

The Bad:
Spun all the way thru 1st on that run. Ran later in the day after the big tire cars starting running and made better burnouts. Bogged it launching on the launch limiter at 4500 rpms. Was planning to raise the limiter to 5000 rpms but then the ugly began...

The Ugly:
After my first pass, there was a lot of coolant that had pushed out of the radiator cap and sprayed under the hood. Car never got hot during the run so I cleaned the rad cap seal and fastened it as tight as it would allow. Second pass, sprayed even more coolant and the temp never got over 185* on that pass. Swapped rad caps with SpeedyJC's car and tried again...same thing. My first thought went to head gasket :( I used Cometic head gaskets and new ARP head studs hoping to not blow head gaskets. Any other thoughts on what could cause coolant to push out of the rad cap :confused: And how can I test for blown head gasket other than engine dissassembly, heads won't come off the motor without the motor out of the car :mad: TIA


Air bubble in the system?

Mike

[econodrag]

"D" I have a tool that will tell you if you have a blown head gasket. It uses a chemical that detects exhaust in the coolant. Let me know if you need it.

[Grandnat]

Hopefully it is nothing major..

congrats on the times.

[Andrew]

"D" I have a tool that will tell you if you have a blown head gasket. It uses a chemical that detects exhaust in the coolant. Let me know if you need it.

This is a cylinder block tester. You can buy one at NAPA, but they will probably have to order it for you.

[Futurama]

wow, good times, whats your combo???

[mikeb]

One odd thing to check - make sure the bolts holding your t-stat housing down aren't bottoming out.

I had that happen - the bolts would tighten down just enough to seal for ordinary driving but on the gas at high revs it would spray out. It was driving me crazy trying to find the leak until I had it on sean freese's dyno with the hood up and finally saw where the leak was.

Otherwise I think you're getting pressure into the cooling system. You can get a kit from napa that will check for exhaust gases in the coolant.

[Da Prez]

nice times...sucks about your car, i hope it isnt too bad...

[CatDaddy]

Thanks guys, kind of bittersweet at this point since I prolly hurt the motor :( It runs a drives fine, doesn't spit coolant unless under boost. The coolant is definitely coming from the rad cap. I have heard of the coolant chemical tester, will it work with the new orange coolant that 2003 up Fords use?

[CatDaddy]

wow, good times, whats your combo???
4.6 SOHC, .020" over JE forged pistons, forged Cobra crank, Manley H beam rods
PNP PI heads w/ oversized valves
VT mild blower grind cams
Bullitt intake
Procharger P1SC intercooled, making 15 psi at 6000rpm
Long tubes, O/R, Flows

It gets quicker every time I go out and I know it's got more in it by looking at the sixty foot times, and comparing the mph vs ET. At 96 mph, I should be in the 7.20 to 7.30 range but the car does weigh 3650 with me in it :o

[econodrag]

The chemical tester will work on any type of coolant. It detects carbon monoxide in the coolant. You do not actually touch the coolant with the tester. The tester will test the vapors that are being released from the cooling system.

It sounds like you have a hair line crack in a ring on the head gasket and under boost it is pushing compression past the gasket.

[OsoSlow]

nice #s



still not enough to hang w/ the RED DRAGON!! :D

[GRAYHORSE]

:sad:

[CatDaddy]

nice #s

still not enough to hang w/ the RED DRAGON!! :D
Haven't seen RED go quicker than a 7.4 @ 93 and that was on a good 60 foot :confused: You better go back and try to find some more power :D

[CatDaddy]

The chemical tester will work on any type of coolant. It detects carbon monoxide in the coolant. You do not actually touch the coolant with the tester. The tester will test the vapors that are being released from the cooling system.

It sounds like you have a hair line crack in a ring on the head gasket and under boost it is pushing compression past the gasket.
Thanks T. Is that an expensive tool or do I just need to buy myself one for the garage?

[OsoSlow]

Haven't seen RED go quicker than a 7.4 @ 93 and that was on a good 60 foot :confused: You better go back and try to find some more power :D

yup, 7.43@93.98
w/ a 1.96 60'

taking off at idle :p
not 4,500!!! :p ...

[CatDaddy]

yup, 7.43@93.98
w/ a 1.96 60'

taking off at idle :p
not 4,500!!! :p ...
Should be a good race! :)

[racinreid]

Should be a good race! :)All you gotta do is get out in front cross the center line and deposit some of that slippery stuff in his lane...j/k... :D

[02SilverGT1]

damn Duwayne. Sorry to hear this. Friend of mine had a similiar problems with a Vortech S-trim. Unfortunately it was the head gasket. Hopefully that is not the case but it does sound exactly like his.

Well if there is a bright side to this. You can think about maybe doing a blower upgrade as the same time your changing the gaskets. Let me know if I can help in any way.

Stefan

[CatDaddy]

damn Duwayne. Sorry to hear this. Friend of mine had a similiar problems with a Vortech S-trim. Unfortunately it was the head gasket. Hopefully that is not the case but it does sound exactly like his.

Well if there is a bright side to this. You can think about maybe doing a blower upgrade as the same time your changing the gaskets. Let me know if I can help in any way.

Stefan
Thanks Stefan. It will prolly end up being a head gasket swap but I'll test what ever way I can before pulling the motor, just to be sure.
A blower swap would be nice but I'm sure the cometics will set me back a bit :mad: I guess Momma ain't gettin' no diamond necklace for Christmas :eek: :D

[momo stallion]

that sucks D, hopefully u get it taken care of soon

[Car-less Chris]

sonic let me know when your gonna order your gaskets..i'am gonna order some soon maybe we can get a good deal.. ;)

[racinreid]

Thanks Stefan. It will prolly end up being a head gasket swap but I'll test what ever way I can before pulling the motor, just to be sure.
A blower swap would be nice but I'm sure the cometics will set me back a bit :mad: I guess Momma ain't gettin' no diamond necklace for Christmas :eek: :D....PEARL.... :eek:

[A BLACK MAN'S COUPE]

nice times dewayne, hate to hear about the car.

[econodrag]

Thanks T. Is that an expensive tool or do I just need to buy myself one for the garage?

I think the set up is around $60.00 if I remember correctly. You could use mine if you need it and I also have a $25.00 product certificate for Cometic gaskets you can have if you want it. I'm not going to use it.

[Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~]

good times man sorry about the problem but when u play u eventually have to pay. doesnt sound like too bad of a problem though u should be able to take care of that it could be alot worse

[CatDaddy]

I think the set up is around $60.00 if I remember correctly. You could use mine if you need it and I also have a $25.00 product certificate for Cometic gaskets you can have if you want it. I'm not going to use it.
PM me your number Tony, I believe I will take you up on your offers! Thanks :)

[CatDaddy]

good times man sorry about the problem but when u play u eventually have to pay. doesnt sound like too bad of a problem though u should be able to take care of that it could be alot worse
Yea it could be worse. If it's only head gaskets, Sonic will be back soon enough :D

[prhotrod]

i was there at denton saturday and saw u run. i was in a black coupe with chrome cobras

[CatDaddy]

i was there at denton saturday and saw u run. i was in a black coupe with chrome cobras
Oh yea, nice coupe. The other black coupe there was Slow Five-O, he wanted some side by side black coupe action but you ran the white SS, what, 50 times :eek: ? He never got a chance to line up with you :D

[Slow Five-O]

haha, i never got a chance to ask him. plus i was running like crap until he left anyway lol.

if ya come out to redline this sunday ill be glad to line em up :cool: those chrome cobras look sweet on there

[prhotrod]

wat does he have, i saw he had a helmet and slicks but i think i only saw like a 9.1

[prhotrod]

THANKS slow five-o. oh and i went there with the guy in the SS, i kidna was wantin to run you just to be a couple black coupes lined up and redline is a lil far for me, i run at denton and k-dale (havnt been to k-dale in a long time)

[Slow Five-O]

haha they were bald drag radials... i got a couple faster times in :D

[prhotrod]

oh cool, wat was ur best? i got my best that day i did 8.85

[f0ur sixer]

wat does he have, i saw he had a helmet and slicks but i think i only saw like a 9.1
Uh oh. I better watch it! Don't fear the heavy auto 281. :p

[Slow Five-O]

Uh oh. I better watch it! Don't fear the heavy auto 281. :p

yup... thats all i could muster :( ... bring that "Freak 2V" out to redline so you can get beat by a low 9second car :cool:

[f0ur sixer]

I ran a 9.4 on 6 cylinders with a 2.5 60'.

[Slow Five-O]

ok :confused:

last i heard you ran an 8.8 ... thats pretty good, but you're gonna have to take the weight back out of your car if you wanna keep up...

[f0ur sixer]

I said that cause you said you were a low 9 second car. And yes last time I ran 1/8 mile I went 8.80@ 81.? That was full interior.

[Slow Five-O]

better pull the interior ;)

outta be a good race kenny :cool:

[f0ur sixer]

Next time it will be at the track there shouldn't be a 8 second pass. ;)

[Slow Five-O]

we'll see :p

[f0ur sixer]

I see you update your sig. Trying to be like me. :p

[Slow Five-O]

yup... i'm 6/10ths faster... this won't even be a race ;) lol

[Phillystang]

we'll see :p
Hey, I didn't know your dad's car was supercharged and built like that, looks pretty stock on the outside :cool: ... I will try to make it to Redline this Sunday to see you guys

[f0ur sixer]

I'm hoping to go about 7.7-8 @ 87ish.

[Slow Five-O]

Hey, I didn't know your dad's car was supercharged and built like that, looks pretty stock on the outside :cool: ... I will try to make it to Redline this Sunday to see you guys

haha, yeah it's a sleeper until you hear it... blower whine is hella loud! lol

awesome, come up and say hi and hopefully ill see ya out there :cool:

[econodrag]

PM me your number Tony, I believe I will take you up on your offers! Thanks :)
I will send the number in the AM

[OsoSlow]

I'm hoping to go about 7.7-8 @ 87ish.
man both of yal are slow....

MY GIRL in her car will put it on both of yall!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
:D

[Slow Five-O]

:eek:

not denying it... i'm slow :( ... just faster than a few others ;)

[f0ur sixer]

man both of yal are slow....

MY GIRL in her car will put it on both of yall!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
:D
I have less cubes and more weight. It's tough man!

[OsoSlow]

I have less cubes and more weight. It's tough man!

EXCUSES!!!!!!!!
HERE THEY COME.....
:rolleyes:

[iceman6247]

Mason looks like you are going to have a lot of good races on sunday just hope i can get out there to see them.

[Stew w/00&92]

Nice times D-wayne!Get that problem fixed.... :D

[f0ur sixer]

EXCUSES!!!!!!!!
HERE THEY COME.....
:rolleyes:
But they are legit excuses.

[Slow Five-O]

Nice times D-wayne!Get that problem fixed.... :D
Is that Stew?! lol, have you sold the car yet?

[Stew w/00&92]

Is that Stew?! lol, have you sold the car yet?



:D Its me,still got her....

[dallaspony]

I have the same problem I have to remove my engine to change the head gaskets. I did a compression check all my cylinders were 145 and #6 cyl. was 125. I ran in denton and got a best of 7.36 on street tires at 15lbs of boost you can get the same and faster good luck to you let me know what you find out.

[CatDaddy]

I have the same problem I have to remove my engine to change the head gaskets. I did a compression check all my cylinders were 145 and #6 cyl. was 125. I ran in denton and got a best of 7.36 on street tires at 15lbs of boost you can get the same and faster good luck to you let me know what you find out.
I didn't see any way to remove the heads without pulling the motor so yea, it's gotta come out for that.
7.36 is a great ET on street tires, what's your combo?

[dallaspony]

I have auto with 3800 stall 410 gears full suspention D&D K member and arms Steeda drag coil over MSD Ignition hooker headers Fox Lake Stage 2 heads port and polished Machined intake matched to heads 281 windsor 4.6 forged crank and pistons 60 lb injectors T-trim with after cooler set at 15lb of boost bassani exhaust. Allot of other shit im forgetting you get the Idea. Its a red 98 convertable I think Ive seen your car its nice hope you get it fixed so we can run this summer. later