Well how did the TTT5 tire vote go?

[Racing347stroker]

11.5's or 12.5's next year?

[Unc]

11.5's or 12.5's next year?

Believe it or not, not a single person voted for the 12.5 DOT tire. The nails are in the coffin and the tire issue is dead forever!

Unc

[JamesB]

Unc, which guy was you their? I didn't meet you

[Unc]

Unc, which guy was you their? I didn't meet you


Big guy with the overalls on sitting next to Ced.

Unc

[Racing347stroker]

always in the overalls

[Racing347stroker]

Hey unc anything else that might be of interest that was decided?

[Phoenix383]

For True Street only.

We are sticking with 11.5s

These are just my words and understanding look for the rules update on the TTT5 board soon.
A BB aftermarket blocked car will weigh 3500lbs or more
A BB Factory blocked car will weigh 3400lbs or more
A SB Aftermarket motor will weigh 3200lbs or more
A factory blocked motor car can weigh 3100lbs or more

You can only have one NOS pressurized bottle in the car.
That is pretty much it for true street.

[Unc]

For True Street only.

We are sticking with 11.5s

These are just my words and understanding look for the rules update on the TTT5 board soon.
A BB aftermarket blocked car will weigh 3500lbs or more
A BB Factory blocked car will weigh 3400lbs or more
A SB Aftermarket motor will weigh 3200lbs or more
A factory blocked motor car can weigh 3100lbs or more

You can only have one NOS pressurized bottle in the car.
That is pretty much it for true street.

Close E,
Here is how it is gonna read:

A BB aftermarket, BB bowtie, and Gen VI blocked car will weigh 3500lbs or more
A OEM 454/427/396 Factory blocked car will weigh 3400lbs or more
A SB Aftermarket motor will weigh 3200lbs or more
An OEM small block nitrous motor car can weigh 3100lbs or more
An OEM small block turbo/supercharger motor car can weigh 3300lbs or more

I rebooted my PC at home and forgot to turn on my firewall and got a worm on it. I've got to restore the machine and then I will be able to upload everything to our website.


Unc

[turbostang]

For True Street only.

We are sticking with 11.5s

These are just my words and understanding look for the rules update on the TTT5 board soon.
A BB aftermarket blocked car will weigh 3500lbs or more
A BB Factory blocked car will weigh 3400lbs or more
A SB Aftermarket motor will weigh 3200lbs or more
A factory blocked motor car can weigh 3100lbs or more

You can only have one NOS pressurized bottle in the car.
That is pretty much it for true street.

Dont forget the exception for turbocharged cars - 3300# OEM block.

[Racing347stroker]

looks good, altough you ought to stick another 100 pounds on the turbo small blocks ;)

[Unc]

looks good, altough you ought to stick another 100 pounds on the turbo small blocks ;)


We were going to make forced induction cars weigh 3400 across the board. But after some debate, we decided to let the OEM block FI cars run at 3300. An aftermarket block can handle all the power a 76 MM can produce, but according to Josh and Brooks their Windsor blocks can't handle it. Since the aftermarket small block with a 76 MM can make the same power as an OEM big block with a 4150 carb and plate, then the aftermarket FI aftermarket small block will weigh the same as the OEM n2o BB. Everyone agreed that was fair.

Unc

[Phoenix383]

Close E,
Here is how it is gonna read:

A BB aftermarket, BB bowtie, and Gen VI blocked car will weigh 3500lbs or more
A OEM 454/427/396 Factory blocked car will weigh 3400lbs or more
A SB Aftermarket motor will weigh 3200lbs or more
An OEM small block nitrous motor car can weigh 3100lbs or more
An OEM small block turbo/supercharger motor car can weigh 3300lbs or more

I rebooted my PC at home and forgot to turn on my firewall and got a worm on it. I've got to restore the machine and then I will be able to upload everything to our website.


Unc

Thanks for the corrections Unc I flat forgot about the turbo/SC cars and I like that wording much better.

[Phoenix383]

We were going to make forced induction cars weigh 3400 across the board. But after some debate, we decided to let the OEM block FI cars run at 3300. An aftermarket block can handle all the power a 76 MM can produce, but according to Josh and Brooks their Windsor blocks can't handle it. Since the aftermarket small block with a 76 MM can make the same power as an OEM big block with a 4150 carb and plate, then the aftermarket FI aftermarket small block will weigh the same as the OEM n2o BB. Everyone agreed that was fair.

Unc

True.

[turbostang]

We were going to make forced induction cars weigh 3400 across the board. But after some debate, we decided to let the OEM block FI cars run at 3300. An aftermarket block can handle all the power a 76 MM can produce, but according to Josh and Brooks their Windsor blocks can't handle it. Since the aftermarket small block with a 76 MM can make the same power as an OEM big block with a 4150 carb and plate, then the aftermarket FI aftermarket small block will weigh the same as the OEM n2o BB. Everyone agreed that was fair.

Unc


You guys would agree for sure if you saw the mains in my old block from last season. The bearings themselves were perfect but the caps and block showed signs of heavy movement (walking). It was 2 years old - so maybe it can make it for a season of serious beating :D
Thanks for the help in the meeting and listening to our dilema !

[Phoenix383]

You guys would agree for sure if you saw the mains in my old block from last season. The bearings themselves were perfect but the caps and block showed signs of heavy movement (walking). It was 2 years old - so maybe it can make it for a season of serious beating :D
Thanks for the help in the meeting and listening to our dilema !

How come you didn't say hey! I saw the others I didn't see you though. What are you a ninja turbo guy?

[turbostang]

How come you didn't say hey! I saw the others I didn't see you though. What are you a ninja turbo guy?


No actually I wasn't there :D I had to go with Greg to get the new top secret ride.:cool:

[Phoenix383]

No actually I wasn't there :D I had to go with Greg to get the new top secret ride.:cool:

Ok thought I was blind since I saw Josh and not your figured you would sit next to him.

[Unc]

You guys would agree for sure if you saw the mains in my old block from last season. The bearings themselves were perfect but the caps and block showed signs of heavy movement (walking). It was 2 years old - so maybe it can make it for a season of serious beating :D
Thanks for the help in the meeting and listening to our dilema !


Most of the time the chattering on those mains is caused by detonation. Do you pull timing out on a turbo like on a nitrous motor?

Unc

[turbostang]

Most of the time the chattering on those mains is caused by detonation. Do you pull timing out on a turbo like on a nitrous motor?

Unc


Yeah.. I had it as low as 20* and as high as 24*. That is at peak power. Down low the timing is 28-32* depending on track conditions etc. Part of the problem could have been that it was kinda high on the compression @ 9:1. I guess we'll see next season.

[truestreet5.8]

Just out of curiousity, who that ran last season was running with a OEM small block with nitrous? I just never saw any split blocks myself and I know that 4 bolt main sbc has to take some power.


Well besides Casey's burnout boom.hehehe

[Unc]

Just out of curiousity, who that ran last season was running with a OEM small block with nitrous? I just never saw any split blocks myself and I know that 4 bolt main sbc has to take some power.


Well besides Casey's burnout boom.hehehe


"Blue Boy Roy" Spencer, "Just-in-Time" Justin Eggemyer and I think "Alcohol Paul" Polizzo runs an OEM nitrous small block. I'm not sure what "Scarry Barry" Williams runs and I'm not sure what Duane Thomas runs either. Me, I run a lazy o slow big block! LOL

Unc

[truestreet5.8]

"Blue Boy Roy" Spencer, "Just-in-Time" Justin Eggemyer and I think "Alcohol Paul" Polizzo runs an OEM nitrous small block. I'm not sure what "Scarry Barry" Williams runs and I'm not sure what Duane Thomas runs either. Me, I run a lazy o slow big block! LOL

Unc

Ok so Roy Spencer runs the blue chevy II and what does Justin, and Paul run? If I remember right Roy went a 5.84, 5.85, and then a 5.84 again last race at K-dale. Man with weighing 100#'s less next season he ought to really fly!

[truestreet5.8]

Hey Unc do you have any ballist you can sell me? I need 160lb's worth to put somewhere. lol :)

[Unc]

Ok so Roy Spencer runs the blue chevy II and what does Justin, and Paul run? If I remember right Roy went a 5.84, 5.85, and then a 5.84 again last race at K-dale. Man with weighing 100#'s less next season he ought to really fly!

Justin runs the Gen 3 Camaro, blue and silver. Paul ran the gold Nova with the primered fenders.

Yep, you are right, Roy is gonna be tough to beat, but so am I!.......I'll have me a new jockey that weighs 100 lbs soakin wet. I built me a lead rear bumper that weighs 250 lbs. When that nitrous comes on.............."hold er head up cause she's gonna buck".............LOL

Unc

[Unc]

Hey Unc do you have any ballist you can sell me? I need 160lb's worth to put somewhere. lol :)


I melted all mine down and put it in the rear bumper..

Unc

[truestreet5.8]

I melted all mine down and put it in the rear bumper..

UncYep thats where mine is going and I sure hope it does not stand on its bumper. I don't have replacement parts yet. :(

[Unc]

Yep thats where mine is going and I sure hope it does not stand on its bumper. I don't have replacement parts yet. :(


You can buy lead bird shot for $16 per 25 lbs at Alpine Shooting Range. Probably the cheapest place is at a scrap metal yard.

Unc

[Phoenix383]

I think if Roy takes advantage of the 100# weight break he will be hard pressed to hook on the tires. As for me I am over weight 100#s already and was debating a little more. Maybe a new lead bumper hehe.

[Unc]

I think if Roy takes advantage of the 100# weight break he will be hard pressed to hook on the tires. As for me I am over weight 100#s already and was debating a little more. Maybe a new lead bumper hehe.


My guess is Roy is gonna get that 100 off, or real close to it anyway and it's gonna come off the front of the car. Disc brakes and a rack will knock off about 90 lbs. Plus he has some real heavy front seats in the car. He may add it back if he needs to depending on track conditions but it will be where he wants it, right in the ass end of the car. Plus he can't use his hidden VHT sprayer anymore.......... LOL :p

Unc

[Phoenix383]

My guess is Roy is gonna get that 100 off, or real close to it anyway and it's gonna come off the front of the car. Disc brakes and a rack will knock off about 90 lbs. Plus he has some real heavy front seats in the car. He may add it back if he needs to depending on track conditions but it will be where he wants it, right in the ass end of the car. Plus he can't use his hidden VHT sprayer anymore.......... LOL :p

Unc

LOL I forgot about the addition of thr Roy rule! thats was funny smart ole fart! :D

True he does have the brakes and rack to do forgot about that. I have really heavy seats in the front I can replace also thanks for reminding me! ;)

[JamesB]

Hey Unc do you have any ballist you can sell me? I need 160lb's worth to put somewhere. lol :)
bird shot is cheap. take a 2"x3" square tube, weld the ends shut, cut a hole fill it, and bolt it down with 1/2" bolts. I can fab you up somthing for a fee. :D I can make a 160lbs rear bumper that will be removable that will just replace the factory piece.

Do you have a cage in your car yet? that will add the weight and be safe at the same time.

[turbostang]

bird shot is cheap. take a 2"x3" square tube, weld the ends shut, cut a hole fill it, and bolt it down with 1/2" bolts. I can fab you up somthing for a fee. :D I can make a 160lbs rear bumper that will be removable that will just replace the factory piece.

Do you have a cage in your car yet? that will add the weight and be safe at the same time.


He is already cert'd :D

[truestreet5.8]

bird shot is cheap. take a 2"x3" square tube, weld the ends shut, cut a hole fill it, and bolt it down with 1/2" bolts. I can fab you up somthing for a fee. :D I can make a 160lbs rear bumper that will be removable that will just replace the factory piece.

Do you have a cage in your car yet? that will add the weight and be safe at the same time.
The chassis is pretty much done. Have a wolfe cage and through the floors in it already. I just picked up a parachute mount today from Wolfe so I can get it in then add the weight to it. I might PM you sometime and get you to make me up some of those "ballist". :D I am not sure how the car will react with 160lb's more in the bumper. It left real nice before, wheels maybe off the ground 2-4 inches but it would squeel the tires hard though so we'll see I guess. I am just hopeing that much weight in the bumper and a little more power will not make it do a Andrew wheely and cause more problems. Once I get the motor back together and in it I need to get the front and rear biase correct so that would be a good time to have the ballist made. :cool:

[truestreet5.8]

looks good, altough you ought to stick another 100 pounds on the turbo small blocks ;)
shitttttt.......you already have 200lb's on me. What else do you want. I could always put a (what we call in water sking) a woosie bar sticking out the side so we could attach your car and it could keep up. :eek: :p

[Racing347stroker]

shitttttt.......you already have 200lb's on me. What else do you want. I could always put a (what we call in water sking) a woosie bar sticking out the side so we could attach your car and it could keep up. :eek: :p
Hell thats what it will probably take to keep up with that thing

[Phoenix383]

Hell thats what it will probably take to keep up with that thing

No way hes gonna need to use the tow strap I leave hangin off the back of mine to keep up! :D

[truestreet5.8]

No way hes gonna need to use the tow strap I leave hangin off the back of mine to keep up! :D
I'm confused here.....wouldn't it need to be on the front of your car in order for me to help you??? hehehe Since my bumper will weight 180lb's it should hold up dragging your car. :eek: Got to love it....winter bench racing at its finest.lol

[Racing347stroker]

You got your junk together yet? I am thinking this Sunday is the time I am going to get my shit box back to the track

[truestreet5.8]

You got your junk together yet? I am thinking this Sunday is the time I am going to get my shit box back to the track
Nope....I am just doing the small stuff like new disk rear brakes, Manual brake conversion, parachute, ect, ect. I guess I am holding out on putting the motor back together untill I get the rest of this small stuff done. I still need to build a 180# bumper though. :eek:

[Racing347stroker]

You could always get a fat girl to ride shotgun ;)

[truestreet5.8]

You could always get a fat girl to ride shotgun ;)
No....I would have to throw her in the trunk to get weight over the back tires. :cool:

[Racing347stroker]

You know that can always be aranged, but then how do you explain that one to your wife?

[Phoenix383]

Josh you better get that ting together soon. GOtta start testing early and ya need lots of pro tree practice! :D

[Unc]

Josh you better get that ting together soon. GOtta start testing early and ya need lots of pro tree practice! :D


You snooze, you loose in this class! Cuttin a good lite is more important than running a good ET. I seen several races won on the tree in 2004. As a matter of fact, Eric won in the finals won night because he treed the other racer. I believe it was the "Lloydenator" that Eric treed. That was the night I hit the guard rail if I remember right.

Unc

[turbostang]

Josh you better get that ting together soon. GOtta start testing early and ya need lots of pro tree practice! :D


That's what I keep telling him - and he wants to turn the two step up further :confused:

[truestreet5.8]

That's what I keep telling him - and he wants to turn the two step up further :confused:Hey thats messing around on a friday night not running on a pro tree. :p I have my Manual master cylinder on now and will have the disk's in the rear next week so I am not worried. I do need to practice but that will come in time. After I get Christmas out of the way I wil lget my motor back together and get to practicing. So when is the first race anyway?

[truestreet5.8]

You snooze, you loose in this class! Cuttin a good lite is more important than running a good ET. I seen several races won on the tree in 2004. As a matter of fact, Eric won in the finals won night because he treed the other racer. I believe it was the "Lloydenator" that Eric treed. That was the night I hit the guard rail if I remember right.

Unc
Be honest here, don't brag. What is the norm for lights with you guys?

[turbostang]

Hey thats messing around on a friday night not running on a pro tree. :p I have my Manual master cylinder on now and will have the disk's in the rear next week so I am not worried. I do need to practice but that will come in time. After I get Christmas out of the way I wil lget my motor back together and get to practicing. So when is the first race anyway?


What first race?

[Unc]

Be honest here, don't brag. What is the norm for lights with you guys?

If you know it is going to be a real close race that could go either way, you better cut a .420 to .440 light. If not, you are sucking the hind tit!

Most of the good ones cut consistent .460 lights.

My son cuts .410 to .420 lights. Better look out for the new jockey in the Unc Racing camp!

Unc

[truestreet5.8]

If you know it is going to be a real close race that could go either way, you better cut a .420 to .440 light. If not, you are sucking the hind tit!

Most of the good ones cut consistent .460 lights.

My son cuts .410 to .420 lights. Better look out for the new jockey in the Unc Racing camp!

Unc
Well I am not to far off from them on a .500 tree when I try. I know there is a differance but hay...it might be easier on a .400 tree. I know as much as I go to the track (like every weekend when its nice) I should get plenty of practice.

Unc, you know you can't keep out of the drivers seat! Hell I saw you racing in that challenger or what ever it was because you slowmaro was giving you problems. :eek:

[truestreet5.8]

What first race?
First race of the season in TTT5. Are you going to reserve a spot in your busy garage to help me get my motor back together in January? remember I wrench for motor work. Sounds weird but you get the point. :D

[slowbrick]

dang your going to be busy all winter brooks

[turbostang]

First race of the season in TTT5. Are you going to reserve a spot in your busy garage to help me get my motor back together in January? remember I wrench for motor work. Sounds weird but you get the point. :D


hmm.. I'll have to think about helping you out since you are going to be in the other lane. :confused:

[Phoenix383]

You snooze, you loose in this class! Cuttin a good lite is more important than running a good ET. I seen several races won on the tree in 2004. As a matter of fact, Eric won in the finals won night because he treed the other racer. I believe it was the "Lloydenator" that Eric treed. That was the night I hit the guard rail if I remember right.

Unc

Yep if he hadnt slept coulda been a different race!

[truestreet5.8]

hmm.. I'll have to think about helping you out since you are going to be in the other lane. :confused:
Aw man your wrong for that. :p

[Phoenix383]

If you know it is going to be a real close race that could go either way, you better cut a .420 to .440 light. If not, you are sucking the hind tit!

Most of the good ones cut consistent .460 lights.

My son cuts .410 to .420 lights. Better look out for the new jockey in the Unc Racing camp!

Unc

My agv for the entire season with bad ones included was .452 my worst in competition not time trials or practice is .471 and my norm is around .430.

And those are actually good lights you can get beat by a better on but the odds are if you can avg .430-.460 you have a shot anything else is trailer baby.

[Unc]

Well I am not to far off from them on a .500 tree when I try. I know there is a differance but hay...it might be easier on a .400 tree. I know as much as I go to the track (like every weekend when its nice) I should get plenty of practice.

Unc, you know you can't keep out of the drivers seat! Hell I saw you racing in that challenger or what ever it was because you slowmaro was giving you problems. :eek:


My son is driving in 2005. That doesn't mean I won't get in it every now and then, but when it comes to running True Street, he is driving. He give us a better chance at winning because he is so little and his reaction is so good.

A .500 sportsman tree and a .400 protree are 2 different animals.

Unc

[Phoenix383]

My son is driving in 2005. That doesn't mean I won't get in it every now and then, but when it comes to running True Street, he is driving. He give us a better chance at winning because he is so little and his reaction is so good.

A .500 sportsman tree and a .400 protree are 2 different animals.

Unc


Well of course his reactions are better he is younger and has better eyesight. You probably cant even focus on the lights until they come on like me lol.

I use the force to cut good trees! :D

[slowbrick]

hey, josh let me use your tires this weekend ?

[truestreet5.8]

hey, josh let me use your tires this weekend ?Sure, I can bring them Friday. I asume that's when you are going? You need to put your NOS system on that thing soon. :eek:

I bet it will go some 5.40's with it and your old motor with your new carb.

[turbostang]

Sure, I can bring them Friday. I asume that's when you are going? You need to put your NOS system on that thing soon. :eek:

I bet it will go some 5.40's with it and your old motor with your new carb.

That goofball dont even need tires. The ones he has will work fine.

[truestreet5.8]

That goofball dont even need tires. The ones he has will work fine.
He should transfer his NOS system over on Friday and run it with a small shot. I know, I know....he needs to run it N/A first bla bla bla. lol Ok say run it N/A Friday then go to Denton on Saturday and run with the bottle! :D

[Phoenix383]

He should transfer his NOS system over on Friday and run it with a small shot. I know, I know....he needs to run it N/A first bla bla bla. lol Ok say run it N/A Friday then go to Denton on Saturday and run with the bottle! :D

I just drove by Slowbricks house looks like someones in the garage working on something. WHo knows maybe moving the NOS system right now!

[turbostang]

He should transfer his NOS system over on Friday and run it with a small shot. I know, I know....he needs to run it N/A first bla bla bla. lol Ok say run it N/A Friday then go to Denton on Saturday and run with the bottle! :D


I think the plan as of right now - is to run it tomorrow (thursday) and maybe at Denton Saturday or the Toys for Tots deal on Sunday. Friday is out.. he has to go to Grandma's to help her out or something. :D


I just drove by Slowbricks house looks like someones in the garage working on something. WHo knows maybe moving the NOS system right now!

I doubt it.. he has to get the 4500 plate :cool:

[truestreet5.8]

I think the plan as of right now - is to run it tomorrow (thursday) and maybe at Denton Saturday or the Toys for Tots deal on Sunday. Friday is out.. he has to go to Grandma's to help her out or something. :D




I doubt it.. he has to get the 4500 plate :cool:
No he don't. Just swap complete motors and be done with it. :D

[slowbrick]

Im running it as is tonight, working Sat. so I should have money to get "TOP SECRET STUFF" next week.

[truestreet5.8]

Im running it as is tonight, working Sat. so I should have money to get "TOP SECRET STUFF" next week."Fogger" ya or nay? {Top secret :)

[Phoenix383]

Well I hope it runs well NA like you want it. I am planning on being there for some testing my self with the new fuel pumps and some more little changes that have been in need of doing for some time. Still have a few more to make before season starts but a couple at a time is enough to mess with.

[Unc]

Well I hope it runs well NA like you want it. I am planning on being there for some testing my self with the new fuel pumps and some more little changes that have been in need of doing for some time. Still have a few more to make before season starts but a couple at a time is enough to mess with.


I think this Sunday will be the best day to go since it will be in the 70's and sunny.

Unc

[Beenfetchedlately]

I think this Sunday will be the best day to go since it will be in the 70's and sunny.

Unc

Tonight will also be in the 70's!!! Go both days! ;)

Mike

[Phoenix383]

I think this Sunday will be the best day to go since it will be in the 70's and sunny.

Unc

You may be right.