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HookEm
11-21-2004, 10:15 AM
Interesting article from an Ag, written in 2K3:


A&M vs. UT is sibling rivalry personified, Stratton writes:

“ The schools and their partisans are not unlike brothers who squabble at just about every opportunity that avails itself to squabbling. UT can be seen as the son Mom always liked best, the one who got the new bike, the better clothes, and a larger allowance — and who gloated about it. A&M can be seen as the son with the chip on his shoulder who got the hand-me-downs and leftovers — and who stewed about it.”

I mentioned this to an Aggie buddy of mine and he nodded.

“ It’s like Cliff Barnes and J.R. Ewing,” he said, recalling the old “Dallas” television series. “Cliff was successful in his own right, but he was obsessed with trying to beat J.R. In the long run, that held him back.”

The way I see it, that’s A&M vs. UT in a nutshell. Stratton, who’ll sign his book at the MSC Bookstore from 11:30 a.m. to 2 p.m. Friday, delves into the psyches of Aggies and t-sips as perceptively as any author I’ve read. Another example:

“ The 90-mile drive from College Station to Austin is a short one, by Texas standards. But it involves moving from one distinctive place to another, from the South to the edge of the West, from small town to urban area. And the psychic distance between them is vast. The Bryan-College Station area prides itself on bedrock conservatism, small-town values: God, home and the Republican Party. Austin, on the other hand, is, well, Austin ...To the Aggie mind, College Station is a place to be revered: ‘Mecca’ is how I’ve seen it described on different Internet discussion boards. Inevitably, those same boards refer to Austin as ‘Sodom.’”

Despite old Ags’ claim that non-Aggies can’t possibly understand the Spirit of Aggieland, Stratton shows a firm grasp of it. To explain it, he harkens back to A&M’s days as an all-male, military-oriented institution:

“ The sons and daughters of Texas’ best and brightest were heading to Austin to the prestige university in those days, so what did that leave for A&M? The also-rans? The hicks from the sticks? I was talking about the Aggies to a friend who lives on the Gulf Coast, and she, a diehard Longhorn, said, ‘They want to be like us so bad they can taste it. But they aren’t and they never will be.’ Maybe that was so for a lot of years. It was apparent to everyone who looked at the situation that the smaller, poorly funded A&M wasn’t in a league with UT. So how were the Ags supposed to compete on the football field and elsewhere? The Spirit of Aggieland was the answer. Behind it is the belief that the whole is always greater than the sum of the parts — and that whole can achieve phenomenal things. Whenever you start looking at Aggie Spirit, you always see that it emphasizes solidarity in some form or another.

“ As much as anything, it is e pluribus unum taken to the fullest — one out of many ...”

A&M, of course, has come a long way from its days as an all-male, military-oriented institution. It’s now one of the largest and, arguably, one of the best public universities in the country. A&M is competitive with Texas in many academic disciplines and even ranks higher than Texas in some.

Nevertheless, a chronic case of stepchild mentality still runs deep in Aggieland, mainly because of Texas’ decades of athletic dominance.

A&M is the only institution I know of that derides its archrival by name throughout its fight song. Some old Ags are so full of venom that they raise a ruckus whenever a story about Longhorn football runs on the front of the sports section. “If I wanted to read about t-sips, I’d subscribe to the Austin paper!” one of them said when Ricky Williams was on his way to winning the Heisman Trophy.

I’m neither an Aggie nor a t-sip, but I’ve lived here eight years — long enough to have graduated from A&M twice — and have become as big an Aggie fan as my two Aggie children. It seems to me the only way A&M will ever truly catch up to Texas in terms of prominence is to grow out of this ridiculous and self-perpetuating inferiority complex, both on and off the football field.

When that happens — if it happens — then maybe the A&M/Texas game will finally fall into proper perspective. Maybe then we Aggie fans can relax and enjoy the game, even in a rebuilding year.

Donnis Baggett is publisher and editor of The Bryan-College Station Eagle.
http://www.theeagle.com/columnists/...12303donnis.htm

HookEm
11-21-2004, 10:16 AM
Every year around this time, I recall with fondness the Thanksgiving night Texas/Aggy game....
And then, snap back to reality, and I remember Aggy cheating got us booted off the main stage, and over to T+1.
Thanks guys.
Because you couldn't play on TV, friggin BAYLOR had to play in your place, and viewership went to the toilet.
Now, it used to just mildly annoy me, until I Was shown just how much Aggy has cheated. But what the hell...without cheating, the rivalry would have suffered. 71-34-5 is pretty one sided, as it is.
For a list of all the violations from the second most penalized school in US Sports History, I digress to hornfans.com:


I refuse to recognize our record of 71 – 34 – 5 with Aggy. I looked up Aggy on the NCAA database and discovered that they are the second most penalized school in US sports history. They have EIGHT MAJOR VIOLATIONS to this date.


What they continue to cling onto is their “successful” record against us in the 80s and 90s. In all of the last 100+ years of college football, they cling onto that slice of history to prove their greatness.

• They hope that we are too stupid to realize our entire history.
• They hope that we won’t throw the other 12 decades in their face.
• They hope that we won’t remember the shame that they brought upon the entire country with their programs in those two cherished decades.
• They hope that the entire NCAA doesn’t bring up the FACT that they brought down the SWC.
• They hope that we won’t call on them to admit that they only win by cheating.

Here are THE FACTS. These facts CANNOT be disputed. They will try, but that is what makes them Aggy.

. . . And we laugh!

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THE EIGHTY’s

1984 – Aggy wins 12-37
1985 – Aggy wins 10-42
1986 – Aggy wins 03-16
1987 – Aggy wins 13-20
1988 – Aggy wins 24-28
1989 – Aggy wins 10-21

Date: 09-SEP-88 (NCAA Summary)

Facts Summary: Improper employment, entertainment, financial aid and lodging; extra benefits; out-of-season practice; complimentary tickets; improper recruiting contacts, entertainment, inducements and publicity; eligibility; unethical conduct; institutional control; certification of compliance.

Violation Summary: Improper employment, entertainment, financial aid and lodging; extra benefits; out-of-season practice; complimentary tickets; improper recruiting contacts, entertainment, inducements and publicity; eligibility; unethical conduct; institutional control; certification of compliance.

Penalty Summary: Maximum of 20 initial grants for 1989-90; maximum of eight coaches recruiting off campus for 1988-89; no off-campus recruiting by two assistant coaches; maximum of 75 official visits for 1988-89; annual reports regarding compliance programs; disassociated four representatives; placed head coach on probation.
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THE NINETY’s

1991 – Aggy wins 14-31
1992 – Aggy wins 13-34
1993 – Aggy wins 09-18
1994 – Aggy wins 10-34

Date: 05-JAN-94 (NCAA Summary)

Facts Summary: Athletics representative paid student-athletes for work not performed; lack of institutional control. REPEAT VIOLATOR.

Violation Summary: AMATEURISM, IMPERMISSIBLE RECRUITING and EXTRA BENEFITS: athletics representative provided $17,920 in unearned wages to nine student-athletes. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. REPEAT VIOLATOR.

Penalty Summary: Public reprimand; annual reports; requirement for improving educational program for athletics representatives; disassociation of athletics representative.
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THE NINETY’s continued

1997 – Aggy wins 16-27
1999 – Aggy wins 16-20

Date: 20-SEP-00 (NCAA Summary)

Facts Summary: Erroneous certification of eligibility violation of two-year rule; failure to satisfy conditions and obligations of membership; lack of institutional control.

Violation Summary: Erroneous certification of eligibility; Violations of two-year college transfer regulations; failure to satisfy the conditions and obligations of membership; lack of institutional control.

Penalty Summary: Public reprimand and censure; two years of probation; post-season ban for 2000-01 academic year; reduction of football grants-in-aid; vacation of participation in football, volleyball, baseball and track & field contests during the 1996-97 through 1999-00 academic years; develop and implement a comprehensive educational program on NCAA legislation, including seminars and testing; submission of annual reports on compliance; recertification after probationary period has ended.

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When I see those 12 Aggy “wins”, I laugh at them. I also subtract them from our OVERWELMING margin of total victories.

Here is the ACTUAL recognized series record between TEXAS and Aggy:

71 – 22 – 5

Do you really think that we consider you as a GREAT foe . . . as our RIVAL?

Hell . . . our record with YOUR rival, Baylor, is 68 – 22 – 4. You’re no different than Baylor, except you honestly believe that everyone is too blind and stupid to notice your obvious ineptness.

. . . And we laugh.

exlude
11-21-2004, 06:23 PM
Didn't you already post that?

Who Needs 8
11-21-2004, 07:00 PM
Didn't you already post that?

This guy lives his life for two days of the year :rolleyes:

HookEm
11-22-2004, 12:30 AM
Didn't you already post that?

Rather than clutter the board with a bunch of Texas/Ags crap, it was moved into one thread.

HookEm
11-22-2004, 12:31 AM
This guy lives his life for two days of the year :rolleyes:

I thought you weren't commenting on aggy football this year, per several quotes?

Oh wait...I forgot you're a pathological liar.
Silly me.....

Boss Hogg
11-22-2004, 09:13 AM
This guy lives his life for two days of the year :rolleyes:
Didn't you spend your two day on Texas/OU weekend?

HookEm
11-22-2004, 09:16 AM
This guy lives his life for two days of the year :rolleyes:

meanwhile, you live your life vicariously thru an online keyboard warrior image you attempt to create......
Poor aggy.