When Kerry Wins

[Pro Trash]

When Kerry wins other countries will become more active in the fight against terrorism.

Medications will become cheaper.

Health care will improve

Taxes will rise but the National debt will begin to fall because the government is using those tax dollars more wisely

NO child left behind will get funded versus the Bush plan of enacting a legislation then bouncing the check

France will be our "friends" again. I am sure you republicans really care about that one.

A new and improved plan will be implemented for Iraq

The economy will grow, the unemployment rate will fall and Teresa will be first lady, the numero uno, the big chick. :D

[Nate]

geez you are such a tool you know that travis

[Denny]

I've heard all this... the thing is, I still have yet to hear HOW he's going to do this. I know he's a fairy, but he can't just sprinkle fairy dust on this crap.

Kinda reminds me when we were in elementary school and kids would say things like, "I'll get pizza delivered every day for lunch and more recesses."

Sorry bro... didn't work then and it won't work now.

[AL P]

Taxes will rise .....the economy will grow

I thought you said you minored in Economics?

[Pro Trash]

geez you are such a tool you know that travis

Hey hush up now or no beer for you :D

[Pro Trash]

I thought you said you minored in Economics?


I didn't say it was absolute

[Pro Trash]

I've heard all this... the thing is, I still have yet to hear HOW he's going to do this. I know he's a fairy, but he can't just sprinkle fairy dust on this crap.

Kinda reminds me when we were in elementary school and kids would say things like, "I'll get pizza delivered every day for lunch and more recesses."

Sorry bro... didn't work then and it won't work now.

We'll have more Ketchup and it will be name brand :D

[AL P]

I didn't say it was absolute

You and Kerry have a lot in common. No wonder you like him so much.

[futant]

SWEET! is he gonna make toilet paper softer too? Because I need something to deal with the bullshit they make up next.

[Slow Five-O]

lol @ AL P



"When kerry wins... pigs will fly" perhaps a more appropriate tittle for the thread... :D

[Pro Trash]

I've heard all this... the thing is, I still have yet to hear HOW he's going to do this. I know he's a fairy, but he can't just sprinkle fairy dust on this crap.

Kinda reminds me when we were in elementary school and kids would say things like, "I'll get pizza delivered every day for lunch and more recesses."

Sorry bro... didn't work then and it won't work now.

We'll have more Ketchup and it will be name brand, check out John and Teresa aren't they a cute couple :D

[Denny]

We'll have more Ketchup and it will be name brand

We'll have more Ketchup and it will be name brand, check out John and Teresa aren't they a cute couple :D

Do you have alzheimer's?

[Danny]

PT, go re-read all your talking points and tell me how any of them is actually going to be implemented. Rolling back the tax cuts for the top 1 or 2% of income owners (according to whichever speech you listen to) may be able to fund one or two of the 'smaller' programs, but will leave the others behind. And then I want you to explain how small businesses that fall into that top 1 or 2% of wage owners are going to be impacted, and how that is going to affect the number of jobs available and number of Americans with health insurance.

I read your items and I can only think that it sounds like complete government control of all facets of my life. If I didn't already know the name of the candidate that would provide all of this, I would still vote against him.

You bought into the Kerry BS of saying anything to get the vote.

[Pro Trash]

Do you have alzheimer's?

Call me the Gipper :D

[Toolman]

it is a givin that kerry will win now.. facts are facts..

[Pro Trash]

PT, go re-read all your talking points and tell me how any of them is actually going to be implemented. Rolling back the tax cuts for the top 1 or 2% of income owners (according to whichever speech you listen to) may be able to fund one or two of the 'smaller' programs, but will leave the others behind. And then I want you to explain how small businesses that fall into that top 1 or 2% of wage owners are going to be impacted, and how that is going to affect the number of jobs available and number of Americans with health insurance.

I read your items and I can only think that it sounds like complete government control of all facets of my life. If I didn't already know the name of the candidate that would provide all of this, I would still vote against him.

You bought into the Kerry BS of saying anything to get the vote.

I was vague on purpose this was only meant to get a rise of my fellow DFW stangers who support GW, LOL. Don't take it to seriously :D

[Denny]

it is a givin that kerry will win now.. facts are facts..

How can there be any facts about who will win when the actual results aren't in?!?!

[Slow Five-O]

lmao @ TOOLman

[WhtEdge]

We'll have more Ketchup and it will be name brand :D


LOL! It is good ketchup though.

[Denny]

Call me the Gipper :D

You only wish...

[Toolman]

Kerry is going to win.. because the undesided voters will deside this election. And they will vote for kerry 2 to 1.. im sorry but Bush cant win this one unless something big happens..

[AL P]

it is a givin that kerry will win now.. facts are facts..

Facts are things that are indisputable. For example:

Toolman is a dumb stumpfuck.

That's a fact. Glad I could help.

[Denny]

Kerry is going to win.. because the undesided voters will deside this election. And they will vote for kerry 2 to 1.. im sorry but Bush cant win this one unless something big happens..

I think we need to change your name to Nostrodaumus or The Prophet... Do you know a guy named Christian?

[Jester]

Kerry is going to win.. because the undesided voters will deside this election. And they will vote for kerry 2 to 1.. im sorry but Bush cant win this one unless something big happens..
Put your money where your mouth is. If Kerry loses, you have to eat a piece of my dogs shit, since you believe so strongly he will win. It is still anybodys race.

[AL P]

Kerry is going to win.. because the undesided voters will deside this election. And they will vote for kerry 2 to 1.. im sorry but Bush cant win this one unless something big happens..

SO.....the undecided voters are actually decided voters in disguise???

It's a conspiracy!!!

[AL P]

I think we need to change your name to Nostrodaumus or The Prophet... Do you know a guy named Christian?

I'm thinking more along the lines of NOSTRADUMBASS

[BloodofJason]

Sorry Toolman is right, when running for a second term. The President never wins by 1 percent. So even if the polls put bush ahead a couple points, it is clear Bush will lose. Like he said in another post, undecided voters go for the challenger.

[Ted]

France will be our "friends" again. I am sure you republicans really care about that one.
:D

But i hate the French!? :(

[Jester]

Sorry Toolman is right, when running for a second term. The President never wins by 1 percent. So even if the polls put bush ahead a couple points, it is clear Bush will lose. Like he said in another post, undecided voters go for the challenger.
Then you have to eat dog shit too.

[BloodofJason]

Dude if Kerry wins id rather eat Dog Shit, then go 4 years with kerry.

[Toolman]

and if kerry wins you get to eat my shit.

[Denny]

Dude if Kerry wins id rather eat Dog Shit, then go 4 years with kerry.

and if kerry wins you get to eat my shit.


Jason vs. Toolman...

The battle of incoherence just moved to a different level.

[AL P]

and if kerry wins you get to eat my shit.

How will you get it out? Squeeze it out of your ear?

[Ted]

and if kerry wins you get to eat my shit.
but don't worry, because whoever wins, you'll still be an idiot

[Jester]

and if kerry wins you get to eat my shit. :rolleyes:
I still think there is a chance that Kerry could win......I am not the one saying it is a closed case....besides, I eat enough of your shit by having to kill brain cells with the stupid shit I read that you type. Kerry has a good chance, because the world is full of inbred fucking yocals like you and your family that will vote for that traitor.

[shrp88lx's]

[QUOTE=Pro Trash]When Kerry wins other countries will become more active in the fight against terrorism.

Even though they have said they WILL NOT

Medications will become cheaper.

Health care will improve Talk about deficit rising and taxes rising

Taxes will rise but the National debt will begin to fall because the government is using those tax dollars more wisely YOUR COMPLETELY INSANE IF YOU THIINK THE GOVT KNOWS HOW TO CONTROL SPENDING....wisely,,LOLOLOLOL

NO child left behind will get funded versus the Bush plan of enacting a legislation then bouncing the check

Actually, as reported last March, funding for the federal Department of Education grew a whopping 58% under Bush during his first three years, and Bush proposed another 5% increase for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, including sizeable increases in spending for children from low-income families and for special education for disabled children. Even the Kerry campaign's own data -- which they provided to FactCheck.org at our request -- shows funding for programs specific to the No Child Left Behind law have increased by $2.7 billion, or 12%, since the new law was enacted
France will be our "friends" again. I am sure you republicans really care about that one. Your right we dont need friend like them, I cant believe you think that considering they provided weapons to the iraqi to KILL our soldiers all over their underhanded dealings in violation of UN sanctions

A new and improved plan will be implemented for Iraq... REALLY WHAT is that, cut and run let the UN be in charge????


The economy will grow, the unemployment rate will fall and Teresa will be first lady, the numero uno, the big chick. DUMBASS the economy IS GROWING AND UNEMPLOYMENT IS THE LOWEST ITS EVER BEEN..WAKE UP
[quote]
IM OUT

[BloodofJason]

People still are not earning what the used to earn. You could have 0 percent unemployment rate, but if everyone is making 5 bucks an hour big deal.

[Pro Trash]

[QUOTE=Pro Trash]When Kerry wins other countries will become more active in the fight against terrorism.

Even though they have said they WILL NOT

Medications will become cheaper.

Health care will improve Talk about deficit rising and taxes rising

Taxes will rise but the National debt will begin to fall because the government is using those tax dollars more wisely YOUR COMPLETELY INSANE IF YOU THIINK THE GOVT KNOWS HOW TO CONTROL SPENDING....wisely,,LOLOLOLOL

NO child left behind will get funded versus the Bush plan of enacting a legislation then bouncing the check

Actually, as reported last March, funding for the federal Department of Education grew a whopping 58% under Bush during his first three years, and Bush proposed another 5% increase for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, including sizeable increases in spending for children from low-income families and for special education for disabled children. Even the Kerry campaign's own data -- which they provided to FactCheck.org at our request -- shows funding for programs specific to the No Child Left Behind law have increased by $2.7 billion, or 12%, since the new law was enacted
France will be our "friends" again. I am sure you republicans really care about that one. Your right we dont need friend like them, I cant believe you think that considering they provided weapons to the iraqi to KILL our soldiers all over their underhanded dealings in violation of UN sanctions

A new and improved plan will be implemented for Iraq... REALLY WHAT is that, cut and run let the UN be in charge????


The economy will grow, the unemployment rate will fall and Teresa will be first lady, the numero uno, the big chick. DUMBASS the economy IS GROWING AND UNEMPLOYMENT IS THE LOWEST ITS EVER BEEN..WAKE UP
[quote]
IM OUT

You need to take me off the list of people you think you can call dumbass.

[Pro Trash]

[QUOTE=Pro Trash]When Kerry wins other countries will become more active in the fight against terrorism.

Even though they have said they WILL NOT

Medications will become cheaper.

Health care will improve Talk about deficit rising and taxes rising

Taxes will rise but the National debt will begin to fall because the government is using those tax dollars more wisely YOUR COMPLETELY INSANE IF YOU THIINK THE GOVT KNOWS HOW TO CONTROL SPENDING....wisely,,LOLOLOLOL

NO child left behind will get funded versus the Bush plan of enacting a legislation then bouncing the check

Actually, as reported last March, funding for the federal Department of Education grew a whopping 58% under Bush during his first three years, and Bush proposed another 5% increase for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, including sizeable increases in spending for children from low-income families and for special education for disabled children. Even the Kerry campaign's own data -- which they provided to FactCheck.org at our request -- shows funding for programs specific to the No Child Left Behind law have increased by $2.7 billion, or 12%, since the new law was enacted
France will be our "friends" again. I am sure you republicans really care about that one. Your right we dont need friend like them, I cant believe you think that considering they provided weapons to the iraqi to KILL our soldiers all over their underhanded dealings in violation of UN sanctions

A new and improved plan will be implemented for Iraq... REALLY WHAT is that, cut and run let the UN be in charge????


The economy will grow, the unemployment rate will fall and Teresa will be first lady, the numero uno, the big chick. DUMBASS the economy IS GROWING AND UNEMPLOYMENT IS THE LOWEST ITS EVER BEEN..WAKE UP
[quote]
IM OUT

I was joking but if you need some facts about ole Bush here you have them.

Here is some info for you "Mr. Know It All" I pulled this fatcheck.com, US economy that has been growing for more than two years, or that steady job gains didn’t begin until August 2003, or that in January the total number of payroll jobs was still 2.2 million below where it was when he took office.

Similarly, Bush’s statement that he knows how to make the world safer and more peaceful omits any mention of wars he initiated in Afghanistan and Iraq. He mentions fulfilling “the promise to America's seniors” but leaves arguments about private Social Security accounts for another day. He speaks of raising standards at schools, but avoids the unpleasant subject of how much of the cost of Bush’s “No Child Left Behind Act” should be swallowed by state and local governments.

It’s true that the long economic boom of the Clinton years had run out of steam before Bush took office and that the nation’s economic output was flat. It grew at a weak 2.1 percent in the last three months of 2000 and then fell two-tenths of one percent in the three-month period of January, February and March 2001, according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis . But the economy didn’t actually enter recession until March of that year, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, an association of academic economists whose Business Cycle Dating Committee is the generally accepted arbiter of when business booms and busts begin and end.

[STANGGT40]

Kerry is going to win.. because the undesided voters will deside this election. And they will vote for kerry 2 to 1.. im sorry but Bush cant win this one unless something big happens..

just out of curiosity...how does that make any sense? i thought that undecided meant that they didn't know whom they were voting for...not leaning towards kerry 2 to 1...:confused:

[Pro Trash]

[QUOTE=Pro Trash]When Kerry wins other countries will become more active in the fight against terrorism.

Even though they have said they WILL NOT

Medications will become cheaper.

Health care will improve Talk about deficit rising and taxes rising

Taxes will rise but the National debt will begin to fall because the government is using those tax dollars more wisely YOUR COMPLETELY INSANE IF YOU THIINK THE GOVT KNOWS HOW TO CONTROL SPENDING....wisely,,LOLOLOLOL

NO child left behind will get funded versus the Bush plan of enacting a legislation then bouncing the check

Actually, as reported last March, funding for the federal Department of Education grew a whopping 58% under Bush during his first three years, and Bush proposed another 5% increase for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, including sizeable increases in spending for children from low-income families and for special education for disabled children. Even the Kerry campaign's own data -- which they provided to FactCheck.org at our request -- shows funding for programs specific to the No Child Left Behind law have increased by $2.7 billion, or 12%, since the new law was enacted
France will be our "friends" again. I am sure you republicans really care about that one. Your right we dont need friend like them, I cant believe you think that considering they provided weapons to the iraqi to KILL our soldiers all over their underhanded dealings in violation of UN sanctions

A new and improved plan will be implemented for Iraq... REALLY WHAT is that, cut and run let the UN be in charge????


The economy will grow, the unemployment rate will fall and Teresa will be first lady, the numero uno, the big chick. DUMBASS the economy IS GROWING AND UNEMPLOYMENT IS THE LOWEST ITS EVER BEEN..WAKE UP
[quote]
IM OUT

Oh you need some more? Funding is still $7 billion a year under what was envisioned in the authorizing legislation for No Child Left Behind, according to the National Education Association.
http://www.factcheck.org/article181.html

[shrp88lx's]

I was joking but if you need some facts about ole Bush here you have them.

Here is some info for you "Mr. Know It All" I pulled this fatcheck.com, US economy that has been growing for more than two years, or that steady job gains didn’t begin until August 2003, or that in January the total number of payroll jobs was still 2.2 million below where it was when he took office.

Similarly, Bush’s statement that he knows how to make the world safer and more peaceful omits any mention of wars he initiated in Afghanistan and Iraq. He mentions fulfilling “the promise to America's seniors” but leaves arguments about private Social Security accounts for another day. He speaks of raising standards at schools, but avoids the unpleasant subject of how much of the cost of Bush’s “No Child Left Behind Act” should be swallowed by state and local governments.

It’s true that the long economic boom of the Clinton years had run out of steam before Bush took office and that the nation’s economic output was flat. It grew at a weak 2.1 percent in the last three months of 2000 and then fell two-tenths of one percent in the three-month period of January, February and March 2001, according to the US Bureau of Economic Analysis . But the economy didn’t actually enter recession until March of that year, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, an association of academic economists whose Business Cycle Dating Committee is the generally accepted arbiter of when business booms and busts begin and end.
FATCHECK.com????????? WTF is that??

Kerry claims in an ad that appeared this week that "the middle class is paying the bigger share of America's tax burden and the wealthiest are paying less." Actually, all income groups have seen their burden reduced . Kerry's wording could lead some to think middle-income taxpayers are paying more of the tax burden than upper-income taxpayers, which is false.

As we pointed out before in an article on another Kerry ad, figures from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center show that even after Bush's tax cuts, the most affluent 20 percent of taxpayers still pay 63 percent of all US taxes, including income, payroll and excise taxes. Those in the middle 20 percent pay 10.5 percent, a much smaller share. So, strictly speaking, the highest -income taxpayers still pay by far the larger share of taxes than the other 80 percent.

What Kerry has said previously is that middle-income taxpayers pay a larger share -- meaning a larger share than they did before and not a larger share than more affluent groups. And it's true that the middle 20 percent has seen their share of the tax burden go up -- by 2/10ths of one percent -- even as their taxes have come down. Those between the top and middle groups have seen their share of the burden go up 0.7 percent. On the other hand, those in the lowest two groups have seen very slight declines in the share of all taxes they pay as well as in the amount of taxes they pay, something Kerry doesn't mention when talking about the burden on the "middle."


Already posted the facts about Job growth and the # of jobs, read up.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics issues a document entitled the "Employment Situation Summary" every month. The most recent survey was released at 8:30 a.m. on Friday, October 8, 2004. This survey indicated that there were 139.5 millions working during September. That, my friends, is a record. Never before have 139.5 million Americans had a job during any survey period.

Here's your question: If a record number of Americans were employed in September of 2004, how can it be said that jobs were lost under President Bush? Come on, folks! Tell me! How do you lose jobs and end up with a record number of Americans working?

By the way ... some more information you can sling around at lunch or dinner today to make yourself seem inestimably wise. The unemployment rate for September was 5.4%. That's considered to be low. Here's a breakdown:

Adult men – 5.0%

Adult women – 4.7%

Teenagers – 16.6%

Now teenagers aren't generally heads of households. That would mean that the unemployment rate for people who actually have to work for a living and support a family is somewhere between 4.7 and 5.0%.


The PARTIAL privitazation of SS, funny how they always leave that out?? Is a smart thing to do for those poeple coming up who will NOT have all the people working to pay their SS, its a reality FACE IT. AND it will NOT effect those seniors currently. http://www.factcheck.org/article283.html READ IT FOR YOURSLF!!!


AS USUAL OWNED BY THE FACTS!!!! STFU already

[shrp88lx's]

You need to take me off the list of people you think you can call dumbass.
Not as long as you keep proving in DAY IN AND DAY OUT!!!Originally Posted by Pro Trash

I know Kerry is not to be trusted, I think he will make a poor President


More facts for you:

Kerry claimed Bush "has taken a $5.6 trillion surplus and turned it into deficits as far as the eye can see." But the country never actually had a $5.6 trillion surplus. The projected surplus Kerry was referring to was a 10-year figure that was already made dubious by a weakening economy and a pent-up Congressional urge to spend. The largest annual surplus actually realized was $236 billion in fiscal year 2000, which ended a month before Bush was elected.


The National Journal rated Kerry "most liberal" in 2003 and in three earlier years during his first Senate term: 1986, 1988, and 1990. But over his entire career the Journal ranks Kerry the 11th most liberal Senator. And by other rankings he's only a bit left of his party's center.

A Kerry ad running heavily last week after first airing Oct. 6 says "the president has made a choice that actually uses your tax money to reward the company that goes overseas." But in fact, Bush's "choice" has been to maintain the status quo, opposing a Kerry proposal to change the law.

As we explained earlier, Kerry is referring to a feature of the US tax code that has been there since the corporate income tax was first adopted, through both Democratic and Republican administrations. Economists say it is a relatively minor factor in the decisions companies make to locate jobs overseas. Even Kerry admits his own tax-change proposal won't end the "outsourcing" of jobs overseas.

[shrp88lx's]

Oh you need some more? Funding is still $7 billion a year under what was envisioned in the authorizing legislation for No Child Left Behind, according to the National Education Association.
http://www.factcheck.org/article181.html FUDGE it all you want the FACTS are Bush has spent more !! yet all you can do is bash him.

"As we've pointed out before, federal aid to education has increased sharply under Bush. Funding for the Department of Education rose 58% during Bush's first three years, a bigger increase than during the previous eight years under Clinton.

But many say even that increase is not enough, considering the demands the law imposes on schools. Funding is still $7 billion a year under what was envisioned in the authorizing legislation for No Child Left Behind, according to the National Education Association." WHo thinks we can never spend enough!!!

[utdbear]

I'm not only the president of FATCHECK.COM, but I'm also a client

:D

[scrapwave]

I'm not only the president of FATCHECK.COM, but I'm also a client

:D

LMAO! Too funny ;)

[jyro]

John Kerry has claimed to be able to do many things better than President Bush with no factual support of the ability to do anything but speak.

John Kerry was in the Senate for 20 years. Where were his leadership and abilitys hidden when he was there? He most certainly didn't show the leadership in the Senate he boasts of in the campaign.

Kerry's only position of leadership was 30 years ago and lasted 4 months. Not much to run for president on.

[mopar63]

Kerry is going to win.. because the undesided voters will deside this election. And they will vote for kerry 2 to 1.. im sorry but Bush cant win this one unless something big happens..

GRRRR, it is "UNDECIDED" I let it slide a post or 5 from you. If you are going to say something asinine as you’re above statement please spell check it! :D

[HookEm]

you forgot the part about Christopher reeve getting out of his chair and walking.

and that the kerry's consider what you do to be "not a real job."

Speaking of teaching, it's, "France will be our friend again,:" not friends.

France is singular. Maybe you meant the French will be our friends again...either way, the fact that you teach and have so little command over the English language is quite sad.

When Kerry wins other countries will become more active in the fight against terrorism.

Medications will become cheaper.

Health care will improve

Taxes will rise but the National debt will begin to fall because the government is using those tax dollars more wisely

NO child left behind will get funded versus the Bush plan of enacting a legislation then bouncing the check

France will be our "friends" again. I am sure you republicans really care about that one.

A new and improved plan will be implemented for Iraq

The economy will grow, the unemployment rate will fall and Teresa will be first lady, the numero uno, the big chick. :D

[HookEm]

You need to take me off the list of people you THINK you can call dumbass, and put me on to the list of people you KNOW you can call dumbass
fixed

[BloodofJason]

I wish these people would stay out of politics.

[TAMUz06]

the fact that you teach and have so little command over the English language is quite sad.


He must be a coach that teaches Health on the side, that would explain it...

[Denny]

He must be a coach that teaches Health on the side, that would explain it...

You mean the ones that lose their job after a couple years because of "the incidents"?

[Pro Trash]

FATCHECK.com????????? WTF is that??

Kerry claims in an ad that appeared this week that "the middle class is paying the bigger share of America's tax burden and the wealthiest are paying less." Actually, all income groups have seen their burden reduced . Kerry's wording could lead some to think middle-income taxpayers are paying more of the tax burden than upper-income taxpayers, which is false.

As we pointed out before in an article on another Kerry ad, figures from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center show that even after Bush's tax cuts, the most affluent 20 percent of taxpayers still pay 63 percent of all US taxes, including income, payroll and excise taxes. Those in the middle 20 percent pay 10.5 percent, a much smaller share. So, strictly speaking, the highest -income taxpayers still pay by far the larger share of taxes than the other 80 percent.

What Kerry has said previously is that middle-income taxpayers pay a larger share -- meaning a larger share than they did before and not a larger share than more affluent groups. And it's true that the middle 20 percent has seen their share of the tax burden go up -- by 2/10ths of one percent -- even as their taxes have come down. Those between the top and middle groups have seen their share of the burden go up 0.7 percent. On the other hand, those in the lowest two groups have seen very slight declines in the share of all taxes they pay as well as in the amount of taxes they pay, something Kerry doesn't mention when talking about the burden on the "middle."


Already posted the facts about Job growth and the # of jobs, read up.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics issues a document entitled the "Employment Situation Summary" every month. The most recent survey was released at 8:30 a.m. on Friday, October 8, 2004. This survey indicated that there were 139.5 millions working during September. That, my friends, is a record. Never before have 139.5 million Americans had a job during any survey period.

Here's your question: If a record number of Americans were employed in September of 2004, how can it be said that jobs were lost under President Bush? Come on, folks! Tell me! How do you lose jobs and end up with a record number of Americans working?

By the way ... some more information you can sling around at lunch or dinner today to make yourself seem inestimably wise. The unemployment rate for September was 5.4%. That's considered to be low. Here's a breakdown:

Adult men – 5.0%

Adult women – 4.7%

Teenagers – 16.6%

Now teenagers aren't generally heads of households. That would mean that the unemployment rate for people who actually have to work for a living and support a family is somewhere between 4.7 and 5.0%.


The PARTIAL privitazation of SS, funny how they always leave that out?? Is a smart thing to do for those poeple coming up who will NOT have all the people working to pay their SS, its a reality FACE IT. AND it will NOT effect those seniors currently. http://www.factcheck.org/article283.html READ IT FOR YOURSLF!!!


AS USUAL OWNED BY THE FACTS!!!! STFU already

Couldn't hang with the conversation at so you changed it to be about Kerry. PLease STFU and get ack to debating No Child Left behind, unemployment, etc. You got owned and changed course like a kite in the wind. Chump

[Paladin]

[QUOTE=shrp88lx's]Not as long as you keep proving in DAY IN AND DAY OUT!!!Originally Posted by Pro Trash

I know Kerry is not to be trusted, I think he will make a poor President

Has PT ever explained this quote? I know he ignores alot of questions about what he says and thinks, but how can he keep ignoring this one?

[Pro Trash]

FUDGE it all you want the FACTS are Bush has spent more !! yet all you can do is bash him.

"As we've pointed out before, federal aid to education has increased sharply under Bush. Funding for the Department of Education rose 58% during Bush's first three years, a bigger increase than during the previous eight years under Clinton.


But many say even that increase is not enough, considering the demands the law imposes on schools. Funding is still $7 billion a year under what was envisioned in the authorizing legislation for No Child Left Behind, according to the National Education Association." WHo thinks we can never spend enough!!!

You are fighting the wrong fight here dingy. I am an educator and maybe you don't quite grasp what is going on in our educational departments. Bush and his cronies you know the ones who FUDGED all the high school transfers in Houston who were really drop outs to get this legislation up and running. Bush and his administration placed many requirements by way of law on the school systems around the country. This tax burden has been placed on local and state agencies but was enacted on a National level. He has no over sight committee assigned to conduct checks and balances and measure this legislations success. So aside from enacting useless educational policies, over taxing the local and state government, placing heavy burdens on school systems and then not funding 51% of the legislation put into motion, I'd say he is doing a great job at controlling public education. If you going to argue with me stay away from public ed., I am active member of my teachers union and understand no-child left behind very well.

[TAMUz06]

I am active member of my teachers union and understand no-child left behind very well.


You sure you don't just understand what the union wants you to understand?

What the fuck do we have unions for in this day in age?

[AL P]

What the fuck do we have unions for in this day in age?

So people who are worth $10 an hour can get paid $20 an hour.....

[Paladin]

What the fuck do we have unions for in this day in age?

Apparently not to make sure their employees are smarter than the people they are supposed to be teaching.

[Pro Trash]

fixed

Do you realize that people from this site show up at my house to get their gears done and they are your fellow republicans. These very people tell me they think you are a dumb ass. For goodness sake shut up man, I have a perfect grasp of the English language. I have tendency to misspell a few words or type fast but I assume you don’t we can always do a query of your past posts can’t we? I can honestly say I was never dumb enough as a young man to piss away a perfectly good chance to graduate from a major University such as UT. It is only by blind luck that they may claim you have not graduated from their institution for had you it would devalue the degrees of those who have.

[Pro Trash]

Apparently not to make sure their employees are smarter than the people they are supposed to be teaching.

You are correct that is not the reason they are established. I am impressed that you know that, ass. :rolleyes:

[HookEm]

So, now you're on record saying it's dumb to serve your country.
wow.
No wonder you support Clinton and KErry.

Do you realize that people from this site show up at my house to get their gears done and they are your fellow republicans. These very people tell me they think you are a dumb ass. For goodness sake shut up man, I have a perfect grasp of the English language. I have tendency to misspell a few words or type fast but I assume you don’t we can always do a query of your past posts can’t we? I can honestly say I was never dumb enough as a young man to piss away a perfectly good chance to graduate from a major University such as UT. It is only by blind luck that they may claim you have not graduated from their institution for had you it would devalue the degrees of those who have.

[Pro Trash]

So, now you're on record saying it's dumb to serve your country.
wow.
No wonder you support Clinton and KErry.

No I said you were dumb for getting tossed out of UT on your ass for being a loser drunk. I think the smart thing you did was join the Army; however, it didn't help the Army much. I remember as a Sergeant seeing dumb asses like you who had pissed away all of their time and money failing school in the mid 90's run to the service to pay off their student loans. I busted my ass in the Army for 9 years, earned my way through college and never pissed my time away while there. So I compliment you on your tour of service and admonish you for your stupidity at UT.

[Danny]

I remember as Sergeant seeing dumb asses like you who had pissed away all their time and money failing school in the mid 90's. I thought you were going to stop with the personal attacks.

[Pro Trash]

So people who are worth $10 an hour can get paid $20 an hour.....

Actually Al it $26.74 per hour, take $40,000 divided by 187 contract days, divided by 8 hours a day and that is the number you will come to, rounded to the nearest 100th of course. :D

[Pro Trash]

I thought you were going to stop with the personal attacks.

Well I do make exceptions. ;)

[Paladin]

You are correct that is not the reason they are established. I am impressed that you know that, ass. :rolleyes:

I am impressed you did not make any major errors in your message, for once!

Imagine that, when I make a simple statement you respond, when I asked some hard questions in numerous other threads, SILENCE.

[AL P]

Actually Al it $26.74 per hour, take $40,000 divided by 187 contract days, divided by 8 hours a day and that is the number you will come to, rounded to the nearest 100th of course. :D

That's a lot of money!!!

[Pro Trash]

Well I would love to stay and continue this mind dumbing BS with you all but my day has been over for 30 minutes now and I am headed home.

[HookEm]

Never got tossed out. Chose to leave, rather than settle for mediocrity on my part. Never served a day in the Army. As usual, your command of the facts (much like Hanoi John's) is poor, at best. My loans are in fine standing, thank you very much. You admonishing me for my stupidity is akin to Ted Kennedy admonishing OJ for his treatment of women....

No I said you were dumb for getting tossed out of UT on your ass for being a loser drunk. I think the smart thing you did was join the Army; however, it didn't help the Army much. I remember as a Sergeant seeing dumb asses like you who had pissed away all of their time and money failing school in the mid 90's run to the service to pay off their student loans. I busted my ass in the Army for 9 years, earned my way through college and never pissed my time away while there. So I compliment you on your tour of service and admonish you for your stupidity at UT.

[Pro Trash]

That's a lot of money!!!

We don't make a lot but we do get a lot of time off to enjoy what we make.

[shrp88lx's]

You sure you don't just understand what the union wants you to understand?

What the fuck do we have unions for in this day in age?EXACTLY

[shrp88lx's]

Couldn't hang with the conversation at so you changed it to be about Kerry. PLease STFU and get ack to debating No Child Left behind, unemployment, etc. You got owned and changed course like a kite in the wind. ChumpNope blew your ass away and then moved on to other subject that do the same. You have never owned me!!! So STFU yourself Hero!!

[mopar63]

[clears throat] ***[/clears throat] ;)

Hey I did spell undecided correctly. :D

[Pro Trash]

[QUOTE=shrp88lx's]Not as long as you keep proving in DAY IN AND DAY OUT!!!Originally Posted by Pro Trash

I know Kerry is not to be trusted, I think he will make a poor President

Has PT ever explained this quote? I know he ignores alot of questions about what he says and thinks, but how can he keep ignoring this one?

I have ignored that one because it was part of a quote that was followed with "I trust Bush less" essentially. So you see the person or bitch that pulled that small portion of my quote put a spin on it. They just pulled the part they wanted, so I figured no need to make an objection to someone being a bitch when they use others half quotes at best.

[Pro Trash]

Nope blew your ass away and then moved on to other subject that do the same. You have never owned me!!! So STFU yourself Hero!!

I have no idea what "that do the same" is all about but hey if you are drinking and typing, go for it.

[slowstang88]

well i am personally against kerry because i am in the milliatary and if he is elected then my family and i's life is over as i know it....on the iraq thing - yeah well he will cut tail and run and then what leave he u.n. in charge like said earlier and if that happens then well there will be something alot worse than 9/11 happen when or soon after he is elected and then....HEY guess what? our millitary that has downsized because of the pay cuts and various things that have happened to us wont wanna go and fight for a flaky president....

then we will have someone or something worse than 9/11 or osama attacking us and us defending the u.s. against. yeah some resident elect!!

[Paladin]

I have ignored that one because it was part of a quote that was followed with "I trust Bush less" essentially. So you see the person or bitch that pulled that small portion of my quote put a spin on it. They just pulled the part they wanted, so I figured no need to make an objection to someone being a bitch when they use others half quotes at best.

I just can't imagine actually trying to defend someone as vigorously as you do that you think can't be trusted and who would make a poor president. Makes absolutely no sense to me the way you defend him and think so poorly of him.

[HookEm]

I just can't imagine actually trying to defend someone as vigorously as you do that you think can't be trusted and who would make a poor president. Makes absolutely no sense to me the way you defend him and think so poorly of him.

He's agaisnt him, while he's for him. It's clear as mud.

[Mark57]

He is the October suprise! Kerry will win (unless the Republican ripoffs continue)

See below:

Judge declines to reopen voter registration


Voter drive funded by GOP accused of deception, destroying registration cards

LAS VEGAS - A state judge refused Friday to reopen registration for Clark County residents whose voter applications might have been destroyed by a Republican-funded group.

Clark County District Court Judge Valerie Adair said she was presented with evidence of just two voters who might have been disenfranchised by having their registration forms ripped up, and said that did not justify reopening the registration process.

"While this court believes that each individual's vote is important and must be protected ... the court finds the requested relief is not warranted," she said.

Nevada Democratic Party spokesman Jon Summers said the party was considering its options on the lawsuit it originally filed Wednesday seeking to extend the registration deadline. Registration for the general election closed Tuesday.

The judge had said she was concerned about opening "floodgates" to manipulation of the voter rolls on the eve of early voting for the Nov. 2 election. The state allows voters to cast early ballots for 14 days beginning Saturday.

Lawyers for the state Democratic party and county had said they thought the number of voters affected might be in the dozens.

The judge said any voter who thinks they were wrongly denied the opportunity to vote can file a lawsuit. She noted that registration forms also contain a disclaimer advising registrants to submit their completed applications in person or by mail, or run the risk of not being registered if another person doesn't turn in the form properly.

County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax said he was pleased with the quick decision so his department can focus on early voting, mail-in ballots and the Nov. 2 election. Some 58,000 requests for mail ballots are expected, officials have said.

The Democratic party's lawsuit accused Voters Outreach of America, a private canvassing company hired by the Republican National Committee, of destroying Democratic registration forms collected in the Las Vegas and Reno areas.

Nevada state law requires anyone registering voters to accept and submit forms regardless of a voter's party affiliation.

The lawsuit, alleging voter intimidation and fraud, sought to reopen registration in Clark County, where nearly 700,000 of the record 1.1 million registered voters have signed up to vote.

The case is based on an affidavit by former Voters Outreach employee Eric Russell, 26, of Las Vegas. He said he was disappointed by Adair's ruling, and denied raising the issue in retaliation for being fired by the canvassing firm last month.

Russell's affidavit said he was instructed to register only Republicans, and that he saw a supervisor tear up completed registration forms from Democrats.

Officials at the Nevada secretary of state's office, the state attorney general's office and the FBI said they were looking into whether state or federal laws were broken.

Russell's girlfriend and ex-Voters Outreach employee Ashlee Tims, 19, of Las Vegas said she also heard a supervisor order Democratic registration forms to be discarded. Tims said she also was fired.

Nathan Sproul, a former head of the Republican Party in Arizona who subcontracted with the Republican National Committee to register GOP voters with Voters Outreach of America, has denied the allegations. Sproul of Chandler, Ariz., characterized Russell as a disgruntled ex-employee.

Nevada Republican party officials on Friday called Democratic accusations of deliberate voter registration fraud "baseless," and said they also found voter registration forms submitted to the county registrar by groups affiliated with the Democratic party for addresses that don't exist.

"This is nothing more than a thinly veiled politically motivated effort to draw media attention away from the real issues just days prior to early voting," said Brian Scroggins, chairman of the Clark County Republican Party.

Lomax called the false address problem common among forms submitted by canvassers paid to sign up voters.

GOP officials conceded they had no direct evidence of Democratic party involvement.

The registration allegations highlight Nevada's position as a battleground in the presidential election. The state has 429,327 registered Republicans, 427,217 Democrats and five electoral votes.

The latest polls show President Bush and Democratic Sen. John Kerry separated by just a few percentage points. Bush narrowly carried the state in 2000.

[AL P]

It's a republican conspiracy!!!

[Danny]

Isn't everything?