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exlude
10-14-2004, 02:23 PM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=13567
Pro Trash
10-14-2004, 02:33 PM
Kerry is pulling ahead or actually Bush is jsut falling behind, no really much of a difference Kerry is in front even if by only 1%. Not to shabby.
TexasDevilDog
10-14-2004, 02:39 PM
I think it is all over for bush. There is no way he can win if Gallop has all this great polling data
46Tbird
10-14-2004, 02:41 PM
Not to shabby.Would you get your to, too, and two's straight? And work on your due versus do, you pretty consistently get that WON wrong. ;)

And that is great! Too bad it doesn't factor in the electoral college..

It's a good thing for Kerry that California has 55 electoral votes, otherwise he wouldn't stand a chance. Even by http://www.electoral-vote.com/ (an admittedly Kerry-friendly site) Kerry has CA with 51/43%.

Off topic, but does anyone else think it's unfair that California has about 20% of the electoral votes needed to elect a president? :confused:
66Deuce
10-14-2004, 02:42 PM
I don't believe any of those since I for one have never voted for a poll on the President (other than a DFWStangs poll ;) ).
Pro Trash
10-14-2004, 02:46 PM
Would you get your to, too, and two's straight? And work on your due versus do, you pretty consistently get that WON wrong. ;)

And that is great! Too bad it doesn't factor in the electoral college..

It's a good thing for Kerry that California has 55 electoral votes, otherwise he wouldn't stand a chance. Even by http://www.electoral-vote.com/ (an admittedly Kerry-friendly site) Kerry has CA with 51/43%.

Off topic, but does anyone else think it's unfair that California has about 20% of the electoral votes needed to elect a president? :confused:

Hey I have dyslexia sue me, now you know why I teach History and not English ;)
TexasDevilDog
10-14-2004, 02:56 PM
Would you get your to, too, and two's straight? And work on your due versus do, you pretty consistently get that WON wrong. ;)

And that is great! Too bad it doesn't factor in the electoral college..

It's a good thing for Kerry that California has 55 electoral votes, otherwise he wouldn't stand a chance. Even by http://www.electoral-vote.com/ (an admittedly Kerry-friendly site) Kerry has CA with 51/43%.

Off topic, but does anyone else think it's unfair that California has about 20% of the electoral votes needed to elect a president? :confused:

What's happening in California? That use to be a strong kerry state, now it is weak.
exlude
10-14-2004, 02:57 PM
Would you get your to, too, and two's straight? And work on your due versus do, you pretty consistently get that WON wrong. ;)

And that is great! Too bad it doesn't factor in the electoral college..

It's a good thing for Kerry that California has 55 electoral votes, otherwise he wouldn't stand a chance. Even by http://www.electoral-vote.com/ (an admittedly Kerry-friendly site) Kerry has CA with 51/43%.

Off topic, but does anyone else think it's unfair that California has about 20% of the electoral votes needed to elect a president? :confused:

I don't wholly support the electoral college in a day of mass media and ease of communication. So, no, I don't think it's really fair. I always figured it would be abolished and/or changed significantly after the first time it didn't agree with popular vote...I was proven wrong. I atleast thought more states would go by pluralist votes instead (also proven wrong).

TDD: I remember several more conservative members of this board putting quite heavy influence on Gallup back when the polls favored Bush. Of course, I am not saying it's the end-all-be-all...I just figured I would post it as it is a quite significant change.
46Tbird
10-14-2004, 02:58 PM
What's happening in California? That use to be a strong kerry state, now it is weak.
I think they came to the realization that getting taxed to death and still going into debt is a bad thing.
TexasDevilDog
10-14-2004, 03:01 PM
I don't wholly support the electoral college in a day of mass media and ease of communication. So, no, I don't think it's really fair. I always figured it would be abolished and/or changed significantly after the first time it didn't agree with popular vote...I was proven wrong. I atleast thought more states would go by pluralist votes instead (also proven wrong).

TDD: I remember several more conservative members of this board putting quite heavy influence on Gallup back when the polls favored Bush. Of course, I am not saying it's the end-all-be-all...I just figured I would post it as it is a quite significant change.

I don't put my faith in polls when ahead or behind. Michael Badnarik is very far behind.

As for the electoral college, I think it is a fair compromise between everything offered. It allows smaller states a bigger say, so that bigger states don't run all over them. If you want to amend the constitution to get rid of it, the smaller states might not allow it to happen.
66Deuce
10-14-2004, 03:01 PM
I think they came to the realization that getting taxed to death and still going into debt is a bad thing.

Wrong! Arnold told them he would pulverize them if they voted for Kerry. :)
46Tbird
10-14-2004, 03:10 PM
As for the electoral college, I think it is a fair compromise between everything offered. It allows smaller states a bigger say, so that bigger states don't run all over them. If you want to amend the constitution to get rid of it, the smaller states might not allow it to happen.I like the concept, but not the execution. I think that one state owning 55 votes - out of 270 needed to elect a president - is skewed.

Especially since they constitute 12.8% of the national population (35.5m out of 291m Americans).

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\\Nation\\archive\\200312\\NAT 20031219a.html