** L@@K How Strict it FF Tech?**

[stallion176]

WILL THEY FROWN ON THESE THINGS? 1991 coupe with intent on running TRUE STREET!

1. no rear battery cut-off
2. worn bfg radials (no cords showing but bald) they say on tech to be 1/8 deep
3. inspection but no regestration.
4. no blow off valve for bottle mounted in trunk!

[stallion176]

ttt

[92lxstang]

If you run True Street you are going to have to have an updated Registration sticker. I have heard of many people getting bitched at for not having a battery cut off in the rear. I think you have to have the blow-down tube on the bottle also. Not sure on the tires.

[stallion176]

looks like im not going make it then! fuck that shit!

[BLK306]

If your lucky they will overlook the registration. Last year I had an expired inspection sticker on the windshield because I forgot to put the new one on which I had in the glove box and they never said anything. However you don't want to give them any reason to really start looking for shit so the less you have that is not up to par the better.

[92AWDTalon]

I got away with no battery cut off and no blow down tube for the nitrous but it depends on who inspects the car. I got lucky and got a guy who didnt even look at the car. I saw another tech pointing out everything wrong with other cars.

[BLK306]

oh yea and i did not have a cut off swich then either but my battery was not in the trunk then either.

[90GT50]

hell, I'd atleast try, if not, oh well.

[momo stallion]

i was told i needed a blow down tube and a dshaft loop.. he told me to go get those.. i said ok.

u can try, u may wanna make sure u get your money back if you dont to run.

[SNEAKY]

looks like they are looking out for your safety as well as the other racers and operating with in the rules :confused:

[racinreid]

WILL THEY FROWN ON THESE THINGS? 1991 coupe with intent on running TRUE STREET!

1. no rear battery cut-off
2. worn bfg radials (no cords showing but bald) they say on tech to be 1/8 deep
3. inspection but no regestration.
4. no blow off valve for bottle mounted in trunk!You will be a spectator my friend!

[stallion176]

i guess it'll be cheaper

[Unseen]

looks like they are looking out for your safety as well as the other racers and operating with in the rules :confused:

There should be a sticky at the top of this forum with links to NHRA safety rules. There are about a million posts every week it seems with people asking these questions. Its not like the rules are a big secret or anything.

[stallion176]

There should be a sticky at the top of this forum with links to NHRA safety rules. There are about a million posts every week it seems with people asking these questions. Its not like the rules are a big secret or anything.

well i read the rules off the site, but some tech is easier than the other tracks because of lack of time and care. i was just curious

[vwprostock]

Jay Beason from FFW will usually do the tech and I do know one hot spot for him is the blow down tube. He will usually check 100% of the nitrous cars for it. Other than that...fairly easy tech. 10 times easier than NMRA tech....too bad those wimps came and went in one year!

Greg

[stallion176]

well ill pull the bottle out.. think ill pass then just on motor? going for 12.0 class

[musclestang89]

If your lucky they will overlook the registration. Last year I had an expired inspection sticker on the windshield because I forgot to put the new one on which I had in the glove box and they never said anything. However you don't want to give them any reason to really start looking for shit so the less you have that is not up to par the better.



Just curious, why did you have you inspection sticker in your glove box :confused: , when geting a car inspected they take them off and put them on. Something doesn't sound right :eek:














just messing with you man :p


Brandon :cool:

[GhostFlamedCoupe]

from what ive seen they are pretty easy. Hell in houston they just wrote a number on the car. the car went 10.17. my brother ran last year and they said he could run 10.99 seat belts and scattershield out of date, no blow-down, and some more things

[Tommy Tutone]

i was told i needed a blow down tube and a dshaft loop.. he told me to go get those.. i said ok.

u can try, u may wanna make sure u get your money back if you dont to run.

FFW no longer gives refunds to paticipants that do not pass the tech inspection. It is YOUR responsiblity to make sure YOUR car will be legal in competition.

So, stallion, don't get your diaper in a knot when you fail tech and they will not issue you a refund.

This is from George Klass and right off the fun ford site...


Beyond the 3 R's


Published Friday, April 9, 2004
by George Klass


Remember when we were kids and school consisted of learning "the 3 R's" (roughly translated into Reading, Writing and Arithmetic)? OK, so maybe it should have been called the R, W and A, but to keep it simple, they just called it the 3 R's. There was a time when teachers actually taught students how to read, how to write and how to add and subtract.

Based on what I see on the internet message boards, knowing how to read and write is apparently a lost art. Capitalization is non-existent and punctuation is iffy at best. In fact, many internet users just seem to string a bunch of words together (with at least 25% of them misspelled) in what may be loosely interpreted as a "sentence", using a minimum of grammatical correctness.

I don't know if this problem is the fault of the teachers, the parents, or just a lack of concern with the students themselves, but anyway you cut it, some people today seem to have a serious problem with understanding what they are reading.

Let me give you an example, one that relates to drag racing.

Every racing organization issues or publishes a list of "rules". This may include rules for the individual classes or regulations as to how the events are run, or both. In most cases, these rules are easy to understand. And in the event that a question arises as to how a particular rule is interpreted, a simple phone call (or an email) to the organization will usually clear things up.

Where the problem comes up is where a rule is quite obvious, and yet, the participant seems to have no clear understanding as to what the rule means. For instance, a rule may state: "All cars are required to have the exhaust go through the mufflers". This is pretty straight forward or at least should be easy to understand, do you not agree? And yet, invariably, someone will show up without mufflers. When the tech person makes the participant aware of this little problem, he is apt to hear something like this. "Well, I saw that rule about mufflers but it didn't say that I couldn't run open headers."

Huh? Were we both reading the same words?

Here's another example. A specific rule may state: "This class is reserved for 2-door passenger cars only". As soon as the gates open, you can be sure that someone is going to try and enter his 4-door dually pick-up truck in the class.

And here is yet another one that happens all the time. A nice looking car shows up in tech that clearly has enough horsepower to run in the 8's, and yet there is no roll cage anywhere in sight, let alone even a roll bar. "Roll cage, who needs one? It just screws up my interior."

I know that this may sound funny, but it happens over and over. Ask anyone in any organization who handles tech at any of the events.

So, you may ask, what's the big deal? You tell the guy "no" and he finds another class to enter. Well, sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the guy doesn't want to run in another class and demands his money back. Issuing a refund may not be a walk in the park for some organizations. In many cases, part of the entry fee may be embedded in the "gate fee" (handled by the track personnel) and part in the tech card purchase (issued by the sanctioning organization). It can be a pain to deal with, and also, why should he get a refund? He's the one who screwed up by not reading the rules. He was charged a fee to "enter" a legal vehicle, not to "participate" with an illegal vehicle.

To address this problem, the Fun Ford Weekend series has come up with a new plan for 2004. It's called "the 4 R's plan". We have added a new word, "responsibility".

Responsibility. Now there's an underused term, isn't it? FFW is going to transfer the responsibility of being legal for a given class onto the participant. If you are legal, you race. If you aren't, you don't, and you won't be getting a refund either.

In the 2004 FFW Rulebook (hard copy and on-line), it clearly states in the General Regulations Section, the following verbiage, and I quote:

"It will be the participants responsibility to know, understand and abide by the rules, regulations, requirements and restrictions of the selected FFW class. This also includes the safety rules and requirements contained in the host tracks sanctioning body (NHRA or IHRA) rulebook. Failure of the participant to know, understand and abide by the rules, regulations, requirements and restrictions of their selected class, or of the safety rules, will not constitute an acceptable reason for FFW to issue a refund."

In our opinion, drag racing should not be for idiots. It should be the participant's responsibility to know the rules. The rules are published in the Official FFW Rulebook (and on-line on the FFW website) and the NHRA or IHRA Rulebooks. If you need help you can always call or email us with your questions. We no longer accept the excuse of "I don't have a computer" or "my phone is out of order". There will no longer be any acceptable excuse for ignorance.

This may cause some of the participants to go back to school.

[Mini Doom]

FFW no longer gives refunds to paticipants that do not pass the tech inspection. It is YOUR responsiblity to make sure YOUR car will be legal in competition.

So, stallion, don't get your diaper in a knot when you fail tech and they will not issue you a refund.

This is from George Klass and right off the fun ford site...


Beyond the 3 R's


Published Friday, April 9, 2004
by George Klass


Remember when we were kids and school consisted of learning "the 3 R's" (roughly translated into Reading, Writing and Arithmetic)? OK, so maybe it should have been called the R, W and A, but to keep it simple, they just called it the 3 R's. There was a time when teachers actually taught students how to read, how to write and how to add and subtract.

Based on what I see on the internet message boards, knowing how to read and write is apparently a lost art. Capitalization is non-existent and punctuation is iffy at best. In fact, many internet users just seem to string a bunch of words together (with at least 25% of them misspelled) in what may be loosely interpreted as a "sentence", using a minimum of grammatical correctness.

I don't know if this problem is the fault of the teachers, the parents, or just a lack of concern with the students themselves, but anyway you cut it, some people today seem to have a serious problem with understanding what they are reading.

Let me give you an example, one that relates to drag racing.

Every racing organization issues or publishes a list of "rules". This may include rules for the individual classes or regulations as to how the events are run, or both. In most cases, these rules are easy to understand. And in the event that a question arises as to how a particular rule is interpreted, a simple phone call (or an email) to the organization will usually clear things up.

Where the problem comes up is where a rule is quite obvious, and yet, the participant seems to have no clear understanding as to what the rule means. For instance, a rule may state: "All cars are required to have the exhaust go through the mufflers". This is pretty straight forward or at least should be easy to understand, do you not agree? And yet, invariably, someone will show up without mufflers. When the tech person makes the participant aware of this little problem, he is apt to hear something like this. "Well, I saw that rule about mufflers but it didn't say that I couldn't run open headers."

Huh? Were we both reading the same words?

Here's another example. A specific rule may state: "This class is reserved for 2-door passenger cars only". As soon as the gates open, you can be sure that someone is going to try and enter his 4-door dually pick-up truck in the class.

And here is yet another one that happens all the time. A nice looking car shows up in tech that clearly has enough horsepower to run in the 8's, and yet there is no roll cage anywhere in sight, let alone even a roll bar. "Roll cage, who needs one? It just screws up my interior."

I know that this may sound funny, but it happens over and over. Ask anyone in any organization who handles tech at any of the events.

So, you may ask, what's the big deal? You tell the guy "no" and he finds another class to enter. Well, sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the guy doesn't want to run in another class and demands his money back. Issuing a refund may not be a walk in the park for some organizations. In many cases, part of the entry fee may be embedded in the "gate fee" (handled by the track personnel) and part in the tech card purchase (issued by the sanctioning organization). It can be a pain to deal with, and also, why should he get a refund? He's the one who screwed up by not reading the rules. He was charged a fee to "enter" a legal vehicle, not to "participate" with an illegal vehicle.

To address this problem, the Fun Ford Weekend series has come up with a new plan for 2004. It's called "the 4 R's plan". We have added a new word, "responsibility".

Responsibility. Now there's an underused term, isn't it? FFW is going to transfer the responsibility of being legal for a given class onto the participant. If you are legal, you race. If you aren't, you don't, and you won't be getting a refund either.

In the 2004 FFW Rulebook (hard copy and on-line), it clearly states in the General Regulations Section, the following verbiage, and I quote:

"It will be the participants responsibility to know, understand and abide by the rules, regulations, requirements and restrictions of the selected FFW class. This also includes the safety rules and requirements contained in the host tracks sanctioning body (NHRA or IHRA) rulebook. Failure of the participant to know, understand and abide by the rules, regulations, requirements and restrictions of their selected class, or of the safety rules, will not constitute an acceptable reason for FFW to issue a refund."

In our opinion, drag racing should not be for idiots. It should be the participant's responsibility to know the rules. The rules are published in the Official FFW Rulebook (and on-line on the FFW website) and the NHRA or IHRA Rulebooks. If you need help you can always call or email us with your questions. We no longer accept the excuse of "I don't have a computer" or "my phone is out of order". There will no longer be any acceptable excuse for ignorance.

This may cause some of the participants to go back to school.Damn!!! I hope you copied all that shit and not typed it? :confused:

[BLK306]

Just curious, why did you have you inspection sticker in your glove box :confused: , when geting a car inspected they take them off and put them on. Something doesn't sound right :eek:
















just messing with you man :p


Brandon :cool:

SSSSSHHHHHOOOOOSH! We won't go into why it was in my glove box. ;)

[gt350mustang]

the inspection sticker is not required, but a current regiatration is. pull the bottle and tell them you are not using it. as for the cutoff switch....if your battery is in the trunk, you need it. depending who and when they techh you may get away with it

[SMOKEY]

As for the battery cut-off switch. If I have the taylor one with the red removable key do you think it will pass?

[2tonecpe]

the inspection sticker is not required, but a current regiatration is. pull the bottle and tell them you are not using it. as for the cutoff switch....if your battery is in the trunk, you need it. depending who and when they techh you may get away with it

True street does require a valid state insp.

[Beej]

why not just follow the rules and get a cut off switch, get a blow down, get a loop. THese are things that you knew you needed, so why wait till the very end, I never understood that.

[gt350mustang]

True street does require a valid state insp.

nope. they changed it a few years ago.

from the ffw website




Valid driver's license.

Valid vehicle registration, for the vehicle in competition.

Valid license plate(s), for the vehicle in competition. Dealer plates prohibited.

Valid insurance "ID" card or FFW approved proof of insurance. Faxes or letters from insurance companies not acceptable.

VIN numbers for all above documentation must match VIN numbers for vehicle in competition

[2tonecpe]

nope. they changed it a few years ago.

from the ffw website




Valid driver's license.

Valid vehicle registration, for the vehicle in competition.

Valid license plate(s), for the vehicle in competition. Dealer plates prohibited.

Valid insurance "ID" card or FFW approved proof of insurance. Faxes or letters from insurance companies not acceptable.

VIN numbers for all above documentation must match VIN numbers for vehicle in competition

You have to be a street car to run true street. Try and run without an inspection.

[Tommy Tutone]

nope. they changed it a few years ago.

from the ffw website




Valid driver's license.

Valid vehicle registration, for the vehicle in competition.

Valid license plate(s), for the vehicle in competition. Dealer plates prohibited.

Valid insurance "ID" card or FFW approved proof of insurance. Faxes or letters from insurance companies not acceptable.

VIN numbers for all above documentation must match VIN numbers for vehicle in competition


Only the states that do not require a "State mandated safety inspection" are the only races you can run without an inspection. Since Texas does require you to have a yearly inspection of the car, you will be required to have one.

[GTChick01]

Oh shit. I have everything except a blow off valve. How quick can I install one?! LOL

[2tonecpe]

Oh shit. I have everything except a blow off valve. How quick can I install one?! LOL

Pretty quick. Just mark cut and drill. You running true street?

[GTChick01]

You running true street?

Yep. I don't have a blow down tube though. Guess I need to pick one up at lunch today.

[2tonecpe]

Yep. I don't have a blow down tube though. Guess I need to pick one up at lunch today.

They are cheap and easy to install. Just mach it up and cut the tube to desired length and drill the correct size hole for it. Good luck in true street. Be prepared for lots of bs.

[Unseen]

nope. they changed it a few years ago.

from the ffw website




Valid driver's license.

Valid vehicle registration, for the vehicle in competition.

Valid license plate(s), for the vehicle in competition. Dealer plates prohibited.

Valid insurance "ID" card or FFW approved proof of insurance. Faxes or letters from insurance companies not acceptable.

VIN numbers for all above documentation must match VIN numbers for vehicle in competition

You have to be legal on the street for the cruise. To be legal on the street in TX, you need state inspection.