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Could it be the same people that did Kerry's 3 silver star with a V citations, you do know he has 3 different citations for his silver star don't you?
http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/09/how-deep-does-it-go.html
CBSNEWS anchor and 60 MINUTES correspondent Dan Rather is "shell-shocked" by the increasingly likelihood that the documents in question were fraudulent.
Rather, who anchored the segment presenting new information on the president's military service, will personally correct the record on-air, if need be.
Marjorie Connell — widow of the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, the reported author of memos suggesting that Bush did not meet the standards for the Texas Air National Guard — questioned whether the documents were real.
"The wording in these documents is very suspect to me," she told ABC News Radio in an exclusive phone interview from her Texas home. She added that she "just can't believe these are his words."
First reported by CBS's 60 Minutes, the memos allegedly were found in Killian's personal files. But his family members say they doubt he ever made such documents, let alone kept them.
Connell said Killian did not type, and though he did take notes, they were usually on scraps of paper. "He was a person who did not take copious notes," she said. "He carried everything in his mind."
Killian's son, Gary Killian, who served in the Guard with his father, also told ABC News Radio that he doubts his father wrote the documents. "It was not the nature of my father to keep private files like this, nor would it have been in his own interest to do so," he said.
"We don't know where the documents come from," he said, adding, "They didn't come from any family member."
Connell said her late husband would be "turning over in his grave to know that a document such as this would be used against a fellow guardsman," and she is "sick" and "angry" that his name is "being battled back and forth on television."
Her late husband was a fan of the young Bush, said Connell, who remarried after her husband died in 1984. "I know for a fact that this young man … was an excellent aviator, an excellent person to be in the Guard, and he was very happy to have him become a member of the 111th."
mikeb
09-09-2004, 11:56 PM
CBS news -> hook, line, and sinker
It's funny when the liberal media steps in it.
HookEm
09-10-2004, 12:48 AM
Paleeeeeze!!!
jyro-I look for your next thread to read "Kerry was part of the Manson family"
Dude, did ya miss the news?
FAKE
http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200409\POL 20040909d.html
http://weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=4596&R=9FCD2F192
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&u=/ap/20040910/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_memos_3&printer=1
black01gt
09-10-2004, 12:49 AM
in an exclusive phone interview from her Texas home. She added that she "just can't believe these are his words."
"He was a person who did not take copious notes," she said. "He carried everything in his mind."
Paleeeeeze!!!
jyro-I look for your next thread to read "Kerry was part of the Manson family"
Paleeeeeze!!!
jyro-I look for your next thread to read "Kerry was part of the Manson family"
I don't post lies
EVERYTHING I have posted is true
http://peterduncan.net/CBS_Documents.html
LOL, just remember the Republicans are the fascists....
blownragtop
09-11-2004, 06:55 PM
:)
HookEm
09-11-2004, 07:28 PM
:)
LMFAO!
The Punisher
09-11-2004, 08:56 PM
:)
Picture of the Day Award! :D
LMAO!
Pro Trash
09-12-2004, 12:06 AM
Could it be the same people that did Kerry's 3 silver star with a V citations, you do know he has 3 different citations for his silver star don't you?
http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/09/how-deep-does-it-go.html
Actually you usually get 3 citations for each medal normally. You get the medal recommendation, the orders for the medal and the certificate for the Medal. MOst people only get thier orders and certificate but you can get a copy of th recommendation as well. All three are considered citations. I was the S-1 NCIOC for my last 7 months on active duty replacing the normal guy who had gone to a school called ANCOC. This is how I know and if you'd ever earned a military medal you might know the same. Keep trying Jyro I know you mean well.
Actually you usually get 3 citations for each medal normally. You get the medal recommendation, the orders for the medal and the certificate for the Medal. MOst people only get thier orders and certificate but you can get a copy of th recommendation as well. All three are considered citations. I was the S-1 NCIOC for my last 7 months on active duty replacing the normal guy who had gone to a school called ANCOC. This is how I know and if you'd ever earned a military medal you might know the same. Keep trying Jyro I know you mean well.
and signed by 3 different navy secretarys, Kerry needs to ok the release of ALL his military records, there is over 100 pages not released.
Yes, I DO mean WELL. Bush aside, I don't want to see Kerry leading anything but Terraza.
citation #1
* * . . . Patrol Craft Fast 23 and 94 moved upstream to investigate an area from which gunshots were coming. Arriving at the area, Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY's craft received a B-40 rocket close aboard. Once again Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY ordered his units to charge the enemy positions and summoned Patrol Craft Fast 43 to the area to provide additional firepower. Patrol Craft Fast 94 then beached in the center of the enemy positions and an enemy soldier sprang up from his position not ten feet from Patrol Craft Fast 94 and fled. Without hesitation Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY leaped ashore, pursued the man behind a hootch and killed him, capturing a B-40 rocket launcher with a round in the chamber. Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY then led an assault party and conducted a sweep of the area while the Patrol Craft Fast continued to provide fire support. After the enemy had been completely routed, all personnel returned to the Patrol Craft Fast to withdraw from the area.” * * * (Emphasis added).
For the President
/s/ E R Zumwalt
E.R. ZUMWALT, Jr.
Vice Admiral, U.S. Navy
Commander U.S. Naval Forces, Vietnam
Citation#2
* * * On a request from U.S. Army advisors on shore, Lieutenant (junior grade) KERRY ordered PCF’s 94 and 23 further up river to suppress enemy sniper fire. After proceeding approximately eight hundred yards, the boats were again taken under fire from a heavily foliated area and a B-40 rocket exploded close aboard PCF 94. With utter disregard for his own safety and the enemy rockets, he again ordered a charge on the enemy, beached his own boat only ten feet from the VC rocket position, and personally led a landing party ashore in pursuit of the enemy. Upon sweeping the area, an immediate search uncovered an enemy rest and supply area which was destroyed.” * * * (Emphasis added).
For the President,
/s/ John J Hyland
JOHN J. HYLAND
Admiral, U.S. Navy
Commander in Chief, U.S. Pacific Fleet
citation #3
* * * After proceeding approximately eight hundred yards, the boats were again taken under fire from a heavily foliated area and a B-40 rocket exploded close aboard PCF 94: with utter disregard for his own safety and the enemy rockets, he again ordered a charge on the enemy, beached his boat only ten feet from the VC rocket position, and personally led a landing party ashore in pursuit of the enemy. Upon sweeping the area an immediate search uncovered an enemy rest and supply area which was destroyed. * * * (Emphasis added).
For the President,
/s/ John Lehman
Secretary of the Navy
Yea, Jyro, you haven't won any medals, you have no right to even talk about them. Listen to Pro Trash, he knows everything. He was in the army, in fact he was so good at it that he is now a teacher.
He totally ignores anything but good about John Kerry and dosen't even read any evidence against Kerry because of his driven hate for Bush\Cheaney. His not knowing about the 3 star certs. from 3 different officials is the real clue. Anyone with a open mind would think something strange of this. I'm sure he has never looked into Kerrys meetings with communists in France during Vietnam either.
I LOOK, READ and ANALYZE all the things I see written about Bush/Cheaney and Kerry GOOD AND BAD and make decisions based on what I consider to be the truth. If you REALLY want to make a good decision about who should be president,
you need to know as much as you can about BOTH candidates.
TexasDevilDog
09-12-2004, 07:04 PM
I wrote to CBS.
re:Bush's Documents
It appears that CBS doesn't do journalism any more and is content with competing with tabloid articles.
If Dan Rather didn't fabricate the documents then maybe he knows who did. But I guess none of your journalism majors there could figure out that story either.
Your company is a joke.
46Tbird
09-13-2004, 09:26 AM
..on Saturday, the Dallas Morning News reported that one of the officers who allegedly pushed to clean up Bush's record in August 1973 had, in fact, retired 18 months earlier, on March 1, 1972.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132200,00.html
Flat out, these were forged documents aimed squarely by the left-leaning media to oust the current administration. No fact-checking ever even took place to verify the authenticity of the documents before the Bush-slamming commenced.
Shameful.
Documents allegedly written by a deceased officer that raised questions about President Bush's service with the Texas Air National Guard bore markings showing they had been faxed from a Kinko's copy shop in Abilene, Tex.,
There is only one Kinko's in Abilene, and it is 21 miles from the Baird, Tex., home of retired Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett.
Burkett, who served with the Texas National Guard in an administrative capacity before his 1998 retirement, has been involved in a bitter dispute with the Guard over medical benefits after suffering from a near deadly case of meningoencephalitis following a military assignment to Panama. He has told reporters that he suffered a nervous breakdown and was hospitalized for depression after he left the Guard.
Burkett has also been a named source for several reports by USA Today, which reported Monday that it had independently obtained copies of the disputed memos soon after the CBS broadcast.
Burkett wrote this about bush in 2003: "I know GW Bush and his inner circle very well. As I said, a UN vote would not stop GW Bush from attacking Iraq. Nor will anything else. And weapons of mass destruction will be discovered in great quantities; but the entire affair will stink to high heavens because it will be as staged as the White House press conference you just viewed. The human death toll will publicly not be mentioned, yet in truth, it will far exceed 120,000….Now I feel sickness that today another massive group of people, held worthless by this anointed king, will be trampled upon like grapes. But their blood will not be rendered into wine. It will be spilled into the sands of this desert or another, or on the streets of Washington, or in the halls of the US Congress, or in the courts….We must now revert to the history of Europe to discern what to do. We must study the nemesis of France and how Napoleon was felled before understanding the damage a tyrant does to a nation and society. We must examine the ruthless and dictatorial rise of yet another of the three small men--one whose name is not spoken out of fear of reprisal, but his name was Adolf."
Pro Trash
09-16-2004, 08:20 AM
He totally ignores anything but good about John Kerry and dosen't even read any evidence against Kerry because of his driven hate for Bush\Cheaney. His not knowing about the 3 star certs. from 3 different officials is the real clue. Anyone with a open mind would think something strange of this. I'm sure he has never looked into Kerrys meetings with communists in France during Vietnam either.
I LOOK, READ and ANALYZE all the things I see written about Bush/Cheaney and Kerry GOOD AND BAD and make decisions based on what I consider to be the truth. If you REALLY want to make a good decision about who should be president,
you need to know as much as you can about BOTH candidates.
Jyro you are so full of it it is coming out of your ears. I know Kerry is not to be trusted, I think he will make a poor President. I think the exact same thoughts of Bush but feel he is more reckless in his intent to be a great War President. So I stopped listening to you all because you simply seem to make GW out to be great. He is not great, he is dangerous, the blood of many a troop has been spilled on his hands and for what? Please do not dishonor the dead by saying Bush was protecting our freedoms. He never went to war and made sure he wasn't deployed as did quite a few of his cabinet members I refer to as cowards. Cheney and Ashcroft were deferments kings during Vietnam. I will not vote for someone who will make others go where he feared to go and do waht he feared to do.
Dacotua
09-16-2004, 08:38 AM
He is not great, he is dangerous, the blood of many a troop has been spilled on his hands and for what?
Freedom.
If Clinton had BALLS to stand up to the Terrorists in his terms, there would have been 3000+ Americans Alive today.
You do realize that the Terrorists trained in the United States during Clintons Watch!
PS: Thanks for the Signature.
Jyro you are so full of it it is coming out of your ears.
Do you deny the CBS papers are forgeries
Do you deny Kerrry joined the navy reserves to avoid the draft
Do you deny Kerry has 3 certs. and they all 3 change the battle action
Do you deny Kerry can't run on his record in office
lets get specific. You say I'm full of it, what exactly have I said that is disputable.
HookEm
09-16-2004, 01:00 PM
I will not vote for someone who will make others go where he feared to go and do waht he feared to do.
Liar, liar pants on fire......
<-----sig check.
Paladin
09-17-2004, 10:53 AM
Do you deny the CBS papers are forgeries
Do you deny Kerrry joined the navy reserves to avoid the draft
Do you deny Kerry has 3 certs. and they all 3 change the battle action
Do you deny Kerry can't run on his record in office
lets get specific. You say I'm full of it, what exactly have I said that is disputable.
PT, do the right thing and number your answers to the listed questions. Please try and salvage your very poor record thus far by doing so. BTW, there are 5 questions posed to you in the post. :D
Pro Trash
09-17-2004, 11:45 AM
Do you deny the CBS papers are forgeries
Do you deny Kerrry joined the navy reserves to avoid the draft
Do you deny Kerry has 3 certs. and they all 3 change the battle action
Do you deny Kerry can't run on his record in office
lets get specific. You say I'm full of it, what exactly have I said that is disputable.
1. I have only seen accusations no proof as of yet
2. Kerry volunteered for the United States Navy after college and served from 1966 through 1970 rising to the rank of Lieutenant, Junior Grade. Afterwards, Kerry continued his military service in the United States Naval Reserves from 1972 through 1978. Not so, as his military records make clear - he was transferred to the Reserve (inactive status) in Jan 1970, and received an Honorable Discharge in 1978. Also only field grade Officers were not considered reserve officers when in that time frame all the way up until the mid 90's. This is why they were not assigned a contract based on a certain amount of years. They were required to serve for 5 years due to the government having put them through school.
3. You still have not produced these three certificates, let me see something.
4. Kerry has a decent record, the Republicans have put the spin on his every word. Take for instance his military voting record in congress he voted against the Bradley fighting vehicle. This vehicle is pathetic for armor protection and has cost the lives of many a crewman when the vehicle took a direct hit.
Pro Trash
09-17-2004, 11:46 AM
PT, do the right thing and number your answers to the listed questions. Please try and salvage your very poor record thus far by doing so. BTW, there are 5 questions posed to you in the post. :D
I only counted four hero
I only counted four hero
You avoided this one, assmaster....
"You say I'm full of it, what exactly have I said that is disputable"
Pro Trash
09-17-2004, 12:10 PM
You avoided this one, assmaster....
"You say I'm full of it, what exactly have I said that is disputable"
The fact that he has assertions with no proof invalidates this from even being a logical question.
The fact that he has assertions with no proof invalidates this from even being a logical question.
Pardon me professor but I think he's asking you to point out WHICH of his past assertions have no proof.
I hope you don't teach reading comprehension.
Pro Trash
09-17-2004, 12:28 PM
Pardon me professor but I think he's asking you to point out WHICH of his past assertions have no proof.
I hope you don't teach reading comprehension.
The question refering to the CBS papers as foreries based off assumption. No one has proven or dis-proven them. Therefore his question is not based on fact but rather here say. His assertion about Kerry and the Naval Reserves shows that he is just throwing things out because Kerry was not assigned to inactive Reserve status until his return from Vietnam and all Jr. Officers recieved reserve commissions back then not to be confused with being in the actual Navy Reserves. So I do not refer to it as a question because most of what he just posted was in fact disputable.
Dacotua
09-17-2004, 12:47 PM
Kerry's Voting Record (Just a few things)
Abortion
Voted NO on disallowing overseas military abortions. Motion to table Murray Amdt #397; Bill S. 1059 ; vote number 1999-148 on May 26, 1999
Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions. Partial Birth Abortion Ban; Bill S. 1692 ; vote number 1999-340 on Oct 21, 1999
Voted NO on maintaining a ban on military base abortions. Bill S 2549 ; vote number 2000-134 on Jun 20, 2000
Civil Rights / Society
Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. Bill HR 1854 ; vote number 1995-317 on Jul 20, 1995
Voted NO on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. Flag Desecration Bill; Bill S. J. Res. 31 ; vote number 1995-600 on Dec 12, 1995
Voted NO on deducting Social Security payments on income taxes. Bill S Con Res 57 ; vote number 1996-140 on May 22, 1996
Voted NO on prohibiting same-sex marriage. Bill HR 3396 ; vote number 1996-280 on Sep 10, 1996
Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. Employment Non-Discrimination Act; Bill S. 2056 ; vote number 1996-281 on Sep 10, 1996
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. Motion to invoke cloture; Bill S.1173 ; vote number 1997-275 on Oct 23, 1997
Voted NO on banning human cloning. Motion to invoke cloture on motion to proceed to S. 1601; Bill S. 1601 ; vote number 1998-10 on Feb 11, 1998
Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. Bill S.1173 ; vote number 1998-23 on Mar 6, 1998
Voted NO on allowing personal retirement accounts. Bill S.Con.Res.86 ; vote number 1998-56 on Apr 1, 1998
Voted NO on allowing Roth IRAs for retirees. Roth Amdt #2339; Bill H.R. 2676 ; vote number 1998-120 on May 6, 1998
Voted YES on continuing funding for the National Endowment for the Arts. Motion to table Smith Amdt #1569; Bill H.R. 2466 ; vote number 1999-260 on Aug 5, 1999
Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. Bill S.2549 ; vote number 2000-136 on Jun 20, 2000
Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. Bill H Con Res 83 ; vote number 2001-65 on Apr 3, 2001
Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. Bill S.625 ; vote number 2002-147 on Jun 11, 2002
Defense of Marriage Act: designed to establish the legal definition of marriage as a ”union between one man and one woman.“ This definition would be binding on all agencies and programs of the federal government.
JFK voted NO
Crime
Voted NO on rejecting racial statistics in death penalty appeals. Bill S 1935 ; vote number 1994-106 on May 11, 1994
Voted NO on mandatory prison terms for crimes involving firearms. Bill HR.3355 ; vote number 1994-126 on May 19, 1994
Voted NO on limiting product liability punitive damage awards. Conference Report on H.R. 956; Bill H. R. 956 ; vote number 1996-46 on Mar 21, 1996
Voted NO on limiting death penalty appeals. Bill S.735 ; vote number 1996-66 on Apr 17, 1996
Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. Bill HR 3540 ; vote number 1996-244 on Jul 25, 1996
Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. Bill S.625 ; vote number 1999-360 on Nov 10, 1999
Defense & Nat'l Security
Votes to Cut Defense Spending by 2% (S. Con. Res. 29, CQ Vote #49, Apr 25, 1991)
Votes to Slash Over $3 Billion from Defense (H.R. 2707, CQ Vote #182, Sep 10, 1991)
Votes to Cut $6 Billion from Defense (S. Con. Res. 106, CQ Vote #73, Apr 9, 1992)
Votes Against Military Pay Raise (S. Con. Res. 18, CQ Vote #73, Mar 24, 1993)
Kerry Introduces Plan To Cut Numerous Defense Programs:
Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews
Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one
Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force
Terminate the Navy’s coastal mine-hunting ship program
Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces
in one year.
(S.1163, Introduced Jun 24, 1993)
Introduced an amendment to SLASH defense spending by 4 billion dollars and Intelligence spending by about 1 billion. Senator Inouye, Very Liberal (D) from Hawaii had the following comments: Amendment 1452, 1994, Senate Floor
The amendment offered by Senator Kerry would reduce the 1994 appropriations for national defense by about $4 billion. I believe the Members of this body should recall that Congress has already reduced DOD's budget in 1994 by more than $18 billion. Moreover, in each and every year of the past 10 years, Congress has cut the funds provided for defense. We have already cut defense spending drastically. ...
Now if I may comment on another section that reduces funding for intelligence programs, and this amendment would reduce such funding by about $1 billion. Madam President, the intelligence budget has already been cut by almost 18 percent over the past 2 years. An additional reduction of $1 billion would severely hamper the intelligence community's ability to provide decisionmakers and policymakers with information on matters of vital concern to this country.
These issues include nuclear proliferation by North Korea--this has been on the front pages for the past 3 or 4 months--peacekeeping efforts in Bosnia and Somalia, as well as terrorist threats against American citizens and property. ...
At a time like this, is it prudent to reduce funds for the very intelligence programs which we need to identify these targets? This amendment would do that. It would blind our pilots. Is this the time to cut the satellite programs that give our forces warning of attacks? I hope that we will keep this in mind... If we do and this amendment passes, then we are putting blindfolds over our pilots' eyes. ...
Voted NO on the Defend America Act of 1996. This bill stated that it would be U.S. policy to deploy by the end of 2003 a national missile defense system that (1) is capable of providing a highly effective defense of U.S. territory against limited, unauthorized or accidental ballistic missile attack; (2) will be augmented over time to provide a layered defense against larger and more sophisticated ballistic missile threats; and (3) does not feature an offensive-only form of deterrence. Newsmax
Introduces a bill to SLASH Department of Defense Funding by 6.5 Billion (S. 1580, Introduced Feb 29, 1996) (No one was willing to co-sponsor this bill!)
Voted YES to freeze defense spending for 7 Years, slashing over $34 Billion from defense. (S. Con. Res. 13, CQ Vote #181, May 24, 1995)
Voted NO on Strengthening of the trade embargo against Cuba. Conference Report on H.R. 927; Bill H.R. 927 ; vote number 1996-22 on Mar 5, 1996
Voted NO on considering deploying National Missile Defense, and amending ABM Treaty. Bill S 1635 ; vote number 1996-157 on Jun 4, 1996
Voted YES on banning chemical weapons. Resolution of ratification of the Chemical (Comprehensive) Weapons (Convention) Ban; Bill S. Res. 75 ; vote number 1997-51 on Apr 24, 1997
In 1997, the conservative Center for Security Policy awarded Kerry a score of 0 out of a possible 100 on 14 key defense votes – including funding for space-based laser programs. Newsmax
Voted YES on limiting the President's power to impose economic sanctions. Motion to table the Lugar Amdt #3156.; Bill S. 2159 ; vote number 1998-201 on Jul 15, 1998
Voted NO on deploying missile defense as soon as possible. Bill S 1873 ; vote number 1998-262 on Sep 9, 1998
Voted YES on allowing another round of military base closures. Bill S.1059 ; vote number 1999-147 on May 26, 1999
Voted NO on cap foreign aid at only $12.7 billion. H.R. 2606 Conference Report; Bill H.R. 2606 ; vote number 1999-312 on Oct 6, 1999
Voted YES on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty; Bill Treaty Document #105-28 ; vote number 1999-325 on Oct 13, 1999
B-2 Stealth Bomber: Repeatedly Votes to Cut or Eliminate B-2 Stealth Bomber
(H.R. 3072, CQ Vote #203, 9/26/89)
(H.R. 3072, CQ Vote #310, 11/18/89)
(S. 2884, CQ Vote #208, 8/2/90)
(S. 2884, CQ Vote #209, 8/2/90)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #174, 8/1/91)
(H.R. 2521, CQ Vote #206, 9/25/91)
(S. 2403, CQ Vote #85, 5/6/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #216,9/18/92)
(S. 2182, CQ Vote #179, 7/1/94)
Missile Defense: Repeatedly Votes to Cut or Eliminate Missile Defense
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #168, 7/31/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #171, 8/1/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #172, 8/1/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #173, 8/1/91)
(H.R. 2521, CQ Vote #207, 9/25/91)
(S. 2403, CQ Vote #85, 5/6/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #182, 8/7/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #214, 9/17/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #215, 9/17/92)
(S. 1298, CQ Vote #251, 10/9/93)
(S. Con. Res. 63, CQ Vote #64, 3/22/94)
(S. 1026, CQ Vote #354, 8/3/95)
(S. 1087, CQ Vote #384, 8/10/95)
(S. 1745, CQ Vote #160, 6/19/96)
(S. 1873, CQ Vote #131:, 5/13/98)
(S. 1873, CQ Vote #262, 9/9/98)
(S 1635, CQ Vote #157, 6/4/96)
(S. 2549, CQ Vote #178, 7/13/00)
Education
Voted NO on requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer. Bill S.1513 ; vote number 1994-236 on Jul 27, 1994
Voted NO on $75M for abstinence education. Bill S 1956 ; vote number 1996-231 on Jul 23, 1996
Voted NO on school vouchers in DC. DC Appropriations Act; Bill S. 1156 ; vote number 1997-260 on Sep 30, 1997
Voted NO on education savings accounts. H.R. 2646 Conference Report; Bill H.R. 2646 ; vote number 1998-169 on Jun 24, 1998
Voted NO on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. Motion to Invoke cloture on Jeffords Amdt #31; Bill S. 280 ; vote number 1999-35 on Mar 9, 1999
Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. Bill S.1134 ; vote number 2000-33 on Mar 2, 2000
School Vouchers: this legislation would force local governments to fund religious and other private educational schools through cash vouchers to students.
JFK voted NO to vouchers.
Energy & Environment
Voted NO on do not require ethanol in gasoline. Bill H.R. 4624 ; vote number 1994-255 on Aug 3, 1994
Voted NO on approving a nuclear waste repository. Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1997; Bill S. 104 ; vote number 1997-42 on Apr 15, 1997
Voted YES on reducing funds for road-building in National Forests. Bill HR.2107 ; vote number 1997-242 on Sep 17, 1997
Voted NO on defunding renewable and solar energy. Motion to table the recommital; Bill S. 1186 ; vote number 1999-171 on Jun 16, 1999
Voted NO on more funding for forest roads and fish habitat. Motion to table Bryan Amdt. #1588; Bill H.R. 2466 ; vote number 1999-272 on Sep 14, 1999
Voted NO on preserving budget for ANWR oil drilling. Bill S Con Res 101 ; vote number 2000-58 on Apr 6, 2000
Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. Bill S.517 ; vote number 2002-71 on Apr 18, 2002
Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. Bill SConRes 23 ; vote number 2003-59 on Mar 19, 2003
Guns/Hunting
Voted with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence 100 percent of the time.
Voted with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent of the time.
Received an F from the National Rifle Association in 2002.
Received an F from Gun Owners of American for the 108th Congress.
Opposes the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (H.R. 1036 / S. 659), which grants gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers immunity from lawsuits.
Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. Bill S 2260 ; vote number 1998-216 on Jul 21, 1998
Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. Bill S.254 ; vote number 1999-111 on May 11, 1999
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. Hatch Amendment #344; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-118 on May 14, 1999
Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. Lautenberg Amdt #362; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-134 on May 20, 1999
Government
Voted NO on banning more types of Congressional gifts. Murkowski Amdt to S. 1061; Bill S. 1061 ; vote number 1995-339 on Jul 28, 1995
Voted NO on Balanced-budget constitutional amendment. Reference: S. J. Res. 1; Bill S. J. Res. 1 ; vote number 1997-24 on Mar 4, 1997
Voted YES on favoring 1997 McCain-Feingold overhaul of campaign finance. Campaign Finance Reform Bill; Bill S. 25 ; vote number 1997-267 on Oct 7, 1997
Voted NO, killing an amendment that would increase the amount of the budget that would be used to reduce the national debt by $75 billion over 5 years. Bill S Con Res 101 ; vote number 2000-55 on Apr 5, 2000
Voted YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. Bill HR.2356 ; vote number 2002-54 on Mar 20, 2002
Immigration
1996: Voted to continue chain migration which has been the primary reason for annual immigration levels snowballing from less than 300,000 in 1965 to around a million today. Sen. Kerry voted AGAINST both the Simpson Amendment and the Feinstein Amendment to S. 1664.
1997: Voted to grant legal status to Nicaraguans and Cubans who had lived in the United States illegally since 1995, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. The overall ten year impact of this legislation will be the addition of some 967,000 people to U.S. population. There was no separate vote on the amnesty, as it was included in the DC Appropriations bill.
2000: Voted to include an amnesty for illegal aliens from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Haiti in the Senate H-1B bill (S.2045). The move to include the amnesty with the H-1B legislation failed 43-55 in a procedural vote on the Senate floor.
2003: Co-sponsor of S. 1645, the Agricultural Job Opportunity, Benefits, and Security Act of 2003. S. 1645 would create a guest worker program that leads to amnesty for certain agricultural workers. The potential recipients of the amnesty will be required to prove 100 days of agricultural employment in the 18-month period that ended Aug. 31, 2003. Then, prior to receiving amnesty, workers would have to show 360 days of additional farm work over the next six years.
2003: Sen. Kerry is a cosponsor of S. 1545, the DREAM Act of 2003. S. 1545 would grant in-state tuition and amnesty to illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above. Such a reward for illegal immigration serves as an incentive for more illegal immigration.
Taxes
JFK Has Voted Against Tax Reductions and for Higher Taxes a total of 379 times!
Voted Against Spending Reductions that would reduce the national budget by $94 billion. H.R. 3759, Roll Call Vote #35: Motion To Table Adopted 65-31: R 23-19; D 42-12, Feb 9, 1994
Voted Against Bipartisan Plan To Balance Budget in seven years. S. Con. Res. 57, Roll Call Vote #150: Rejected 46-53: R 22-30; D 24-23, May 23, 1996
Voted Against Fiscally Responsible Budget that would have cut spending and taxes. H. Con. Res. 84, Roll Call Vote #92: Adopted 78-22: R 41-14; D 37-8, May 23 1997
Voted NO on FY99 tax cuts. Motion to waive CBA Re: Coverdell Amdt. # 2199; Bill S Con Res 86 ; vote number 1998-55 on Apr 1, 1998
Voted NO on requiring super-majority for raising taxes. Kyl Amdt #2221; Bill S Con Res 86 ; vote number 1998-71 on Apr 2, 1998
Voted YES To Increase Gas Tax By 6 Cents Per Gallon. (S. 3209, CQ Vote #280: Rejected 45-55: R 8-37; D 37-18, 10/18/90)
In Two Votes, Said YES to a 4.3 Cents-Per-Gallon Increase In Gas Tax And 2.5 Cents-Per-Gallon Extension Of Existing Gas Tax. (H.R. 2264, CQ Vote #190: Passed 50-49: R 0-43; D 49-6, With Vice President Al Gore Casting A “Yea” Vote, 6/25/93, Kerry Voted Yea; H.R. 2264, CQ Vote #247: Adopted 51-50: R 0-44; D 50-6, With Vice President Al Gore Casting A “Yea” Vote, 8/6/93, Kerry Voted Yea)
Voted NO on $792B tax cuts. Motion to waive Congressional Budget Amendment in regards to the Gramm Amdt #1405; Bill S. 1429 ; vote number 1999-230 on Jul 29, 1999
Voted NO on across-the-board spending cut. Nickles Amdt #1889; Bill S. 1650 ; vote number 1999-313 on Oct 6, 1999
Voted YES To Keep 1993 Gas Tax Increase. (H. R. 8, CQ Vote #183: Motion Rejected 40-59: R 40-15; D 0-44, 7/13/00)
Voted NO on eliminating the 'marriage penalty'. Bill HR.4810 ; vote number 2000-215 on Jul 18, 2000
Voted NO on cutting taxes by $1.35 trillion over 11 years. Bill HR 1836 ; vote number 2001-165 on May 23, 2001
Voted NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years. Bill HR.2 ; vote number 2003-196 on May 23, 2003
Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times. Several times in the mid-nineties the Senate took up the Balanced Budget Amendment. Kerry voted five times against the amendment. (S. J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #24: Rejected 66-34: R 55-0; D 11-34, 3/4/97, Kerry Voted Nay; H.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #158: Rejected 64-35: R 52-1; D 12-34, 6/6/96, Kerry Voted Nay; H.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #98: Rejected 65-35: R 51-2; D 14-33, 3/2/95, Kerry Voted Nay; S. J. Res. 41, Roll Call Vote #48: Rejected 63-37: R 41-3; D 22-34, 3/1/94, Kerry Voted Nay; S. J. Res. 225, Roll Call Vote #45: Rejected 66-34: R 43-10; D 23-24, 3/25/86, Kerry Voted Nay)
Pro Trash
09-17-2004, 01:13 PM
Kerry's Voting Record (Just a few things)
Abortion
Voted NO on disallowing overseas military abortions. Motion to table Murray Amdt #397; Bill S. 1059 ; vote number 1999-148 on May 26, 1999
Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions. Partial Birth Abortion Ban; Bill S. 1692 ; vote number 1999-340 on Oct 21, 1999
Voted NO on maintaining a ban on military base abortions. Bill S 2549 ; vote number 2000-134 on Jun 20, 2000
Civil Rights / Society
Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. Bill HR 1854 ; vote number 1995-317 on Jul 20, 1995
Voted NO on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. Flag Desecration Bill; Bill S. J. Res. 31 ; vote number 1995-600 on Dec 12, 1995
Voted NO on deducting Social Security payments on income taxes. Bill S Con Res 57 ; vote number 1996-140 on May 22, 1996
Voted NO on prohibiting same-sex marriage. Bill HR 3396 ; vote number 1996-280 on Sep 10, 1996
Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. Employment Non-Discrimination Act; Bill S. 2056 ; vote number 1996-281 on Sep 10, 1996
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. Motion to invoke cloture; Bill S.1173 ; vote number 1997-275 on Oct 23, 1997
Voted NO on banning human cloning. Motion to invoke cloture on motion to proceed to S. 1601; Bill S. 1601 ; vote number 1998-10 on Feb 11, 1998
Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. Bill S.1173 ; vote number 1998-23 on Mar 6, 1998
Voted NO on allowing personal retirement accounts. Bill S.Con.Res.86 ; vote number 1998-56 on Apr 1, 1998
Voted NO on allowing Roth IRAs for retirees. Roth Amdt #2339; Bill H.R. 2676 ; vote number 1998-120 on May 6, 1998
Voted YES on continuing funding for the National Endowment for the Arts. Motion to table Smith Amdt #1569; Bill H.R. 2466 ; vote number 1999-260 on Aug 5, 1999
Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. Bill S.2549 ; vote number 2000-136 on Jun 20, 2000
Voted NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit. Bill H Con Res 83 ; vote number 2001-65 on Apr 3, 2001
Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. Bill S.625 ; vote number 2002-147 on Jun 11, 2002
Defense of Marriage Act: designed to establish the legal definition of marriage as a ”union between one man and one woman.“ This definition would be binding on all agencies and programs of the federal government.
JFK voted NO
Crime
Voted NO on rejecting racial statistics in death penalty appeals. Bill S 1935 ; vote number 1994-106 on May 11, 1994
Voted NO on mandatory prison terms for crimes involving firearms. Bill HR.3355 ; vote number 1994-126 on May 19, 1994
Voted NO on limiting product liability punitive damage awards. Conference Report on H.R. 956; Bill H. R. 956 ; vote number 1996-46 on Mar 21, 1996
Voted NO on limiting death penalty appeals. Bill S.735 ; vote number 1996-66 on Apr 17, 1996
Voted NO on spending international development funds on drug control. Bill HR 3540 ; vote number 1996-244 on Jul 25, 1996
Voted NO on increasing penalties for drug offenses. Bill S.625 ; vote number 1999-360 on Nov 10, 1999
Defense & Nat'l Security
Votes to Cut Defense Spending by 2% (S. Con. Res. 29, CQ Vote #49, Apr 25, 1991)
Votes to Slash Over $3 Billion from Defense (H.R. 2707, CQ Vote #182, Sep 10, 1991)
Votes to Cut $6 Billion from Defense (S. Con. Res. 106, CQ Vote #73, Apr 9, 1992)
Votes Against Military Pay Raise (S. Con. Res. 18, CQ Vote #73, Mar 24, 1993)
Kerry Introduces Plan To Cut Numerous Defense Programs:
Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews
Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one
Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force
Terminate the Navy’s coastal mine-hunting ship program
Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces
in one year.
(S.1163, Introduced Jun 24, 1993)
Introduced an amendment to SLASH defense spending by 4 billion dollars and Intelligence spending by about 1 billion. Senator Inouye, Very Liberal (D) from Hawaii had the following comments: Amendment 1452, 1994, Senate Floor
The amendment offered by Senator Kerry would reduce the 1994 appropriations for national defense by about $4 billion. I believe the Members of this body should recall that Congress has already reduced DOD's budget in 1994 by more than $18 billion. Moreover, in each and every year of the past 10 years, Congress has cut the funds provided for defense. We have already cut defense spending drastically. ...
Now if I may comment on another section that reduces funding for intelligence programs, and this amendment would reduce such funding by about $1 billion. Madam President, the intelligence budget has already been cut by almost 18 percent over the past 2 years. An additional reduction of $1 billion would severely hamper the intelligence community's ability to provide decisionmakers and policymakers with information on matters of vital concern to this country.
These issues include nuclear proliferation by North Korea--this has been on the front pages for the past 3 or 4 months--peacekeeping efforts in Bosnia and Somalia, as well as terrorist threats against American citizens and property. ...
At a time like this, is it prudent to reduce funds for the very intelligence programs which we need to identify these targets? This amendment would do that. It would blind our pilots. Is this the time to cut the satellite programs that give our forces warning of attacks? I hope that we will keep this in mind... If we do and this amendment passes, then we are putting blindfolds over our pilots' eyes. ...
Voted NO on the Defend America Act of 1996. This bill stated that it would be U.S. policy to deploy by the end of 2003 a national missile defense system that (1) is capable of providing a highly effective defense of U.S. territory against limited, unauthorized or accidental ballistic missile attack; (2) will be augmented over time to provide a layered defense against larger and more sophisticated ballistic missile threats; and (3) does not feature an offensive-only form of deterrence. Newsmax
Introduces a bill to SLASH Department of Defense Funding by 6.5 Billion (S. 1580, Introduced Feb 29, 1996) (No one was willing to co-sponsor this bill!)
Voted YES to freeze defense spending for 7 Years, slashing over $34 Billion from defense. (S. Con. Res. 13, CQ Vote #181, May 24, 1995)
Voted NO on Strengthening of the trade embargo against Cuba. Conference Report on H.R. 927; Bill H.R. 927 ; vote number 1996-22 on Mar 5, 1996
Voted NO on considering deploying National Missile Defense, and amending ABM Treaty. Bill S 1635 ; vote number 1996-157 on Jun 4, 1996
Voted YES on banning chemical weapons. Resolution of ratification of the Chemical (Comprehensive) Weapons (Convention) Ban; Bill S. Res. 75 ; vote number 1997-51 on Apr 24, 1997
In 1997, the conservative Center for Security Policy awarded Kerry a score of 0 out of a possible 100 on 14 key defense votes – including funding for space-based laser programs. Newsmax
Voted YES on limiting the President's power to impose economic sanctions. Motion to table the Lugar Amdt #3156.; Bill S. 2159 ; vote number 1998-201 on Jul 15, 1998
Voted NO on deploying missile defense as soon as possible. Bill S 1873 ; vote number 1998-262 on Sep 9, 1998
Voted YES on allowing another round of military base closures. Bill S.1059 ; vote number 1999-147 on May 26, 1999
Voted NO on cap foreign aid at only $12.7 billion. H.R. 2606 Conference Report; Bill H.R. 2606 ; vote number 1999-312 on Oct 6, 1999
Voted YES on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty; Bill Treaty Document #105-28 ; vote number 1999-325 on Oct 13, 1999
B-2 Stealth Bomber: Repeatedly Votes to Cut or Eliminate B-2 Stealth Bomber
(H.R. 3072, CQ Vote #203, 9/26/89)
(H.R. 3072, CQ Vote #310, 11/18/89)
(S. 2884, CQ Vote #208, 8/2/90)
(S. 2884, CQ Vote #209, 8/2/90)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #174, 8/1/91)
(H.R. 2521, CQ Vote #206, 9/25/91)
(S. 2403, CQ Vote #85, 5/6/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #216,9/18/92)
(S. 2182, CQ Vote #179, 7/1/94)
Missile Defense: Repeatedly Votes to Cut or Eliminate Missile Defense
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #168, 7/31/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #171, 8/1/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #172, 8/1/91)
(S. 1507, CQ Vote #173, 8/1/91)
(H.R. 2521, CQ Vote #207, 9/25/91)
(S. 2403, CQ Vote #85, 5/6/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #182, 8/7/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #214, 9/17/92)
(S. 3114, CQ Vote #215, 9/17/92)
(S. 1298, CQ Vote #251, 10/9/93)
(S. Con. Res. 63, CQ Vote #64, 3/22/94)
(S. 1026, CQ Vote #354, 8/3/95)
(S. 1087, CQ Vote #384, 8/10/95)
(S. 1745, CQ Vote #160, 6/19/96)
(S. 1873, CQ Vote #131:, 5/13/98)
(S. 1873, CQ Vote #262, 9/9/98)
(S 1635, CQ Vote #157, 6/4/96)
(S. 2549, CQ Vote #178, 7/13/00)
Education
Voted NO on requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer. Bill S.1513 ; vote number 1994-236 on Jul 27, 1994
Voted NO on $75M for abstinence education. Bill S 1956 ; vote number 1996-231 on Jul 23, 1996
Voted NO on school vouchers in DC. DC Appropriations Act; Bill S. 1156 ; vote number 1997-260 on Sep 30, 1997
Voted NO on education savings accounts. H.R. 2646 Conference Report; Bill H.R. 2646 ; vote number 1998-169 on Jun 24, 1998
Voted NO on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. Motion to Invoke cloture on Jeffords Amdt #31; Bill S. 280 ; vote number 1999-35 on Mar 9, 1999
Voted NO on Educational Savings Accounts. Bill S.1134 ; vote number 2000-33 on Mar 2, 2000
School Vouchers: this legislation would force local governments to fund religious and other private educational schools through cash vouchers to students.
JFK voted NO to vouchers.
Energy & Environment
Voted NO on do not require ethanol in gasoline. Bill H.R. 4624 ; vote number 1994-255 on Aug 3, 1994
Voted NO on approving a nuclear waste repository. Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1997; Bill S. 104 ; vote number 1997-42 on Apr 15, 1997
Voted YES on reducing funds for road-building in National Forests. Bill HR.2107 ; vote number 1997-242 on Sep 17, 1997
Voted NO on defunding renewable and solar energy. Motion to table the recommital; Bill S. 1186 ; vote number 1999-171 on Jun 16, 1999
Voted NO on more funding for forest roads and fish habitat. Motion to table Bryan Amdt. #1588; Bill H.R. 2466 ; vote number 1999-272 on Sep 14, 1999
Voted NO on preserving budget for ANWR oil drilling. Bill S Con Res 101 ; vote number 2000-58 on Apr 6, 2000
Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. Bill S.517 ; vote number 2002-71 on Apr 18, 2002
Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. Bill SConRes 23 ; vote number 2003-59 on Mar 19, 2003
Guns/Hunting
Voted with the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence 100 percent of the time.
Voted with the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent of the time.
Received an F from the National Rifle Association in 2002.
Received an F from Gun Owners of American for the 108th Congress.
Opposes the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (H.R. 1036 / S. 659), which grants gun manufacturers, distributors and dealers immunity from lawsuits.
Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. Bill S 2260 ; vote number 1998-216 on Jul 21, 1998
Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. Bill S.254 ; vote number 1999-111 on May 11, 1999
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. Hatch Amendment #344; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-118 on May 14, 1999
Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. Lautenberg Amdt #362; Bill S. 254 ; vote number 1999-134 on May 20, 1999
Government
Voted NO on banning more types of Congressional gifts. Murkowski Amdt to S. 1061; Bill S. 1061 ; vote number 1995-339 on Jul 28, 1995
Voted NO on Balanced-budget constitutional amendment. Reference: S. J. Res. 1; Bill S. J. Res. 1 ; vote number 1997-24 on Mar 4, 1997
Voted YES on favoring 1997 McCain-Feingold overhaul of campaign finance. Campaign Finance Reform Bill; Bill S. 25 ; vote number 1997-267 on Oct 7, 1997
Voted NO, killing an amendment that would increase the amount of the budget that would be used to reduce the national debt by $75 billion over 5 years. Bill S Con Res 101 ; vote number 2000-55 on Apr 5, 2000
Voted YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. Bill HR.2356 ; vote number 2002-54 on Mar 20, 2002
Immigration
1996: Voted to continue chain migration which has been the primary reason for annual immigration levels snowballing from less than 300,000 in 1965 to around a million today. Sen. Kerry voted AGAINST both the Simpson Amendment and the Feinstein Amendment to S. 1664.
1997: Voted to grant legal status to Nicaraguans and Cubans who had lived in the United States illegally since 1995, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. The overall ten year impact of this legislation will be the addition of some 967,000 people to U.S. population. There was no separate vote on the amnesty, as it was included in the DC Appropriations bill.
2000: Voted to include an amnesty for illegal aliens from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Haiti in the Senate H-1B bill (S.2045). The move to include the amnesty with the H-1B legislation failed 43-55 in a procedural vote on the Senate floor.
2003: Co-sponsor of S. 1645, the Agricultural Job Opportunity, Benefits, and Security Act of 2003. S. 1645 would create a guest worker program that leads to amnesty for certain agricultural workers. The potential recipients of the amnesty will be required to prove 100 days of agricultural employment in the 18-month period that ended Aug. 31, 2003. Then, prior to receiving amnesty, workers would have to show 360 days of additional farm work over the next six years.
2003: Sen. Kerry is a cosponsor of S. 1545, the DREAM Act of 2003. S. 1545 would grant in-state tuition and amnesty to illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above. Such a reward for illegal immigration serves as an incentive for more illegal immigration.
Taxes
JFK Has Voted Against Tax Reductions and for Higher Taxes a total of 379 times!
Voted Against Spending Reductions that would reduce the national budget by $94 billion. H.R. 3759, Roll Call Vote #35: Motion To Table Adopted 65-31: R 23-19; D 42-12, Feb 9, 1994
Voted Against Bipartisan Plan To Balance Budget in seven years. S. Con. Res. 57, Roll Call Vote #150: Rejected 46-53: R 22-30; D 24-23, May 23, 1996
Voted Against Fiscally Responsible Budget that would have cut spending and taxes. H. Con. Res. 84, Roll Call Vote #92: Adopted 78-22: R 41-14; D 37-8, May 23 1997
Voted NO on FY99 tax cuts. Motion to waive CBA Re: Coverdell Amdt. # 2199; Bill S Con Res 86 ; vote number 1998-55 on Apr 1, 1998
Voted NO on requiring super-majority for raising taxes. Kyl Amdt #2221; Bill S Con Res 86 ; vote number 1998-71 on Apr 2, 1998
Voted YES To Increase Gas Tax By 6 Cents Per Gallon. (S. 3209, CQ Vote #280: Rejected 45-55: R 8-37; D 37-18, 10/18/90)
In Two Votes, Said YES to a 4.3 Cents-Per-Gallon Increase In Gas Tax And 2.5 Cents-Per-Gallon Extension Of Existing Gas Tax. (H.R. 2264, CQ Vote #190: Passed 50-49: R 0-43; D 49-6, With Vice President Al Gore Casting A “Yea” Vote, 6/25/93, Kerry Voted Yea; H.R. 2264, CQ Vote #247: Adopted 51-50: R 0-44; D 50-6, With Vice President Al Gore Casting A “Yea” Vote, 8/6/93, Kerry Voted Yea)
Voted NO on $792B tax cuts. Motion to waive Congressional Budget Amendment in regards to the Gramm Amdt #1405; Bill S. 1429 ; vote number 1999-230 on Jul 29, 1999
Voted NO on across-the-board spending cut. Nickles Amdt #1889; Bill S. 1650 ; vote number 1999-313 on Oct 6, 1999
Voted YES To Keep 1993 Gas Tax Increase. (H. R. 8, CQ Vote #183: Motion Rejected 40-59: R 40-15; D 0-44, 7/13/00)
Voted NO on eliminating the 'marriage penalty'. Bill HR.4810 ; vote number 2000-215 on Jul 18, 2000
Voted NO on cutting taxes by $1.35 trillion over 11 years. Bill HR 1836 ; vote number 2001-165 on May 23, 2001
Voted NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years. Bill HR.2 ; vote number 2003-196 on May 23, 2003
Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times. Several times in the mid-nineties the Senate took up the Balanced Budget Amendment. Kerry voted five times against the amendment. (S. J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #24: Rejected 66-34: R 55-0; D 11-34, 3/4/97, Kerry Voted Nay; H.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #158: Rejected 64-35: R 52-1; D 12-34, 6/6/96, Kerry Voted Nay; H.J. Res. 1, Roll Call Vote #98: Rejected 65-35: R 51-2; D 14-33, 3/2/95, Kerry Voted Nay; S. J. Res. 41, Roll Call Vote #48: Rejected 63-37: R 41-3; D 22-34, 3/1/94, Kerry Voted Nay; S. J. Res. 225, Roll Call Vote #45: Rejected 66-34: R 43-10; D 23-24, 3/25/86, Kerry Voted Nay)
See that is where our political views differ, I could really care less about abortion. I can honestly say the parents of some people on here should have exercised that choice. As for flag burning I can't stand it but I feel it is less democratic to take away someones right to do such. I feel it the most disrespectful thing an American or anyone for that matter can do to our flag but it is freedom of speech no matter how tasteless.
Dacotua
09-17-2004, 01:27 PM
See that is where our political views differ, I could really care less about abortion. I can honestly say the parents of some people on here should have exercised that choice. As for flag burning I can't stand it but I feel it is less democratic to take away someones right to do such. I feel it the most disrespectful thing an American or anyone for that matter can do to our flag but it is freedom of speech no matter how tasteless.
Yelling Fire in a Theater is also freedom of speech and will get you thrown in jail.
Going to a bank and yelling, this is a hold up, is freedom of speech and will get you thrown in jail.
There are limits to your speech and burning our flag should be one of them. By burning the flag, you disgrace near a million men in the past who died for that flag.
TAMUz06
09-17-2004, 01:30 PM
See that is where our political views differ, I could really care less about abortion. I can honestly say the parents of some people on here should have exercised that choice. As for flag burning I can't stand it but I feel it is less democratic to take away someones right to do such. I feel it the most disrespectful thing an American or anyone for that matter can do to our flag but it is freedom of speech no matter how tasteless.
So out of that whole thing, you agree with roughly 1% of it?
Pro Trash
09-17-2004, 02:08 PM
So out of that whole thing, you agree with roughly 1% of it?
Nah I agree with other parts but also understand he votes down a bill if parts of the bill are inconsistent with his beliefs. Would you vote on a bill if it didn't meet your standards or agree with your politics. He has been reelected to his seat several times so his voters must have approved of him.
See that is where our political views differ, I could really care less about abortion. I can honestly say the parents of some people on here should have exercised that choice. As for flag burning I can't stand it but I feel it is less democratic to take away someones right to do such. I feel it the most disrespectful thing an American or anyone for that matter can do to our flag but it is freedom of speech no matter how tasteless.
Nice technique on the evasive action, Captain....
Mach1Marauder
09-20-2004, 10:52 AM
The ONLY Senator more liberal than Kerry is his drunk Dem Brother Kennedy!!!!!!!!!
Paladin
09-20-2004, 04:49 PM
Het PT, are you going to admit now that the documents were forged by a very liberal Bush hater?
CBS has announced that the documents cannot be verified and are "investigating" who the author of the documents were. They are pointing to a producer who did not thoroughly verify the source of the documents. /cough/ Kerry supporter and Bush hater/cough/
1. I have only seen accusations no proof as of yet
2. Kerry volunteered for the United States Navy after college and served from 1966 through 1970 rising to the rank of Lieutenant, Junior Grade. Afterwards, Kerry continued his military service in the United States Naval Reserves from 1972 through 1978. Not so, as his military records make clear - he was transferred to the Reserve (inactive status) in Jan 1970, and received an Honorable Discharge in 1978. Also only field grade Officers were not considered reserve officers when in that time frame all the way up until the mid 90's. This is why they were not assigned a contract based on a certain amount of years. They were required to serve for 5 years due to the government having put them through school.
3. You still have not produced these three certificates, let me see something.
4. Kerry has a decent record, the Republicans have put the spin on his every word. Take for instance his military voting record in congress he voted against the Bradley fighting vehicle. This vehicle is pathetic for armor protection and has cost the lives of many a crewman when the vehicle took a direct hit.
1. I showed proof of the documents forgery in post 7 of this thread
2. kerrys enlistment doc. note---it says USNR, inactive http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Enlistment_Contract.pdf
3. You don't bother to look at proof, I showed you the 3 certs in post 13 of this thread.
4. Why do you think Kerry NEVER mentions his 25 years in the Senate, he didn't do ANYTHING there.
you prove it -- You can lead a donkey to water but you can't make him drink!
His assertion about Kerry and the Naval Reserves shows that he is just throwing things out because Kerry was not assigned to inactive Reserve status until his return from Vietnam and all Jr. Officers recieved reserve commissions back then not to be confused with being in the actual Navy Reserves. So I do not refer to it as a question because most of what he just posted was in fact disputable.
Kerrys enlistment form from 1966, USNR and inactive
full size enlistment document for John Kerry, 02/1966
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Enlistment_Contract.pdf
Kerry Military history doc, shows he enlisted in Feb. was called up in Aug.
shows he enlisted in Navy Reserves Inactive
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Request_For_History_of_Service.pdf
tap, tap, tap, waiting for your reply from the above post
tap, tap, tap, waiting for your reply from the above post
1. I showed proof of the documents forgery in post 7 of this thread
2. kerrys enlistment doc. note---it says USNR, inactive http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmils...nt_Contract.pdf
3. You don't bother to look at proof, I showed you the 3 certs in post 13 of this thread.
4. Why do you think Kerry NEVER mentions his 25 years in the Senate, he didn't do ANYTHING there.
you prove it PT -- You can lead a donkey to water but you can't make him drink!
09-20-2004 04:49 PM
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