Fraud seems to run in the Bush family

[Pro Trash]

" "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you have to focus on"
— President George W. Bush.

"You have to look at the entire Bush Family in this context - as if the family ran a corporation called ‘Frauds-R-Us,’

George Jr.’s specialty was insurance and security fraud. Jeb’s specialty was oil and gas fraud. Neil’s specialty was real estate fraud. Prescott’s specialty was banking fraud. And George Sr.’s specialty? All of the above."

— Lt. Cmdr., Al Martin, US Navy (Ret). "


http://users.castel.nl/~degug01/citatensid.htm

[exlude]

Do you do a lot of surfing on anti-American boards?







Oh wait, you're a liberal. Of course you do.


Anti-Bush is anti-American apparently.

[46Tbird]

Do you do a lot of surfing on anti-American boards?







Oh wait, you're a liberal. Of course you do.

[exlude]

Are you kidding? Did you even read the anti-American quotes on that DUTCH webpage?

It's anti-Bush, sure. PT quoted all the anti-Bush content on that webpage.



If you actually took the time to read it, you'd realize that it's also anti-YOU and the country you live in, bub.

Read. Understand. THEN you may comment.

Did you even read your second sentence? Do you have the intellegence to comprehend what you said? Here let me explain it to you:

"Oh wait, you're a liberal. Of course you do."

Liberals tend to be anti-Bush, sure. But no, you go further than that to insinuate that liberals (not just ProTrash) tend to be anti-American. Lump that with his very specific (not anti-American) quote, and understanding the significance of HIS post... It's fairly obvious you over stepped your bounds, and jumped into an overgeneralizing, ignorant comment.

Isn't this the second time I have had to spell things out for you?

[46Tbird]

Anti-Bush is anti-American apparently.Are you kidding? Did you even read the anti-American quotes on that DUTCH webpage?

It's anti-Bush, sure. PT quoted all the anti-Bush content on that webpage.



If you actually took the time to read it, you'd realize that it's also anti-YOU and the country you live in, bub.

Read. Understand. THEN you may comment.

[46Tbird]

Did you even read your second sentence? Do you have the intellegence to comprehend what you said? Here let me explain it to you:

"Oh wait, you're a liberal. Of course you do."

Liberals tend to be anti-Bush, sure. But no, you go further than that to insinuate that liberals (not just ProTrash) tend to be anti-American. Lump that with his very specific (not anti-American) quote, and understanding the significance of HIS post... It's fairly obvious you over stepped your bounds, and jumped into an overgeneralizing, ignorant comment.

Isn't this the second time I have had to spell things out for you?Uh oh, looks like I sparked something inside this one.

1. The website is more than anti-Bush; it is anti-American
2. Pro Trash disseminated that anti-American trash, quoting it's content in an agreeable manner
3. It pisses me off that someone who sells himself as patriotic would even consider sharing something like that
4. I took a jab
5. Your panties were immediately upturned and thrust inside your anus
6. You made the uninformed statement that the website is represented as only anti-Bush
7. I replied that it was much more than that, and had you read it you would understand
8. You reply with a long, boring, redirecting dissertation that reflects a stereotypically oversensitive, vengeful, hateful, LIBERAL stance.

Lighten up. And get bent.

[exlude]

Uh oh, looks like I sparked something inside this one.

1. The website is more than anti-Bush; it is anti-American
2. Pro Trash disseminated that anti-American trash, quoting it's content in an agreeable manner
3. It pisses me off that someone who sells himself as patriotic would even consider sharing something like that
4. I took a jab
5. Your panties were immediately upturned and thrust inside your anus
6. You made the uninformed statement that the website is represented as only anti-Bush
7. I replied that it was much more than that, and had you read it you would understand
8. You reply with a long, boring, redirecting dissertation that reflects a stereotypically oversensitive, vengeful, hateful, LIBERAL stance.

Lighten up. And get bent.

So all you can do is argue other petty points? Can't even argue against the one part that I pointed out to you? Hell you can't even back up your original statements and attempt to be condescending towards me, lmao.

I would hope you could understand, EVEN AFTER I SPELLED IT OUT FOR YOU, that I was not arguing whether or not that website was anti-American. Read your second statement, you know, the one I quoted.

1. Irrelevant to what I posted.
2. Irrelevant to what I posted.
3. Irrelevant to what I posted.
4. So you admit it was an ignorant statement?
5. And I called you on it.
6. Incorrect, I never said anything about the website, I focused on the ignorance in your post.
7. Irrelevant to what I posted, just because you lack the ability to understand it...even after I go into more detail.
8. It's only redirecting because you lack the ability to look at anything in depth, and to be able to actually UNDERSTAND something. The best insult you have is to call me liberal, pathetic.

Maybe this time you should do what you did last time and shut up, realizing you are/were wrong.

[exlude]

And yes, I consider nearly all liberals to be self-defacing, self-loathing, anti-American scumbags.

That was my exactly point in the first place, why are you arguing with me again? I'm a moron for calling you on that, so admitting it would make you a moron too? You make no sense.

Well, my point has been PROVEN, and you can keep on with your petty and admittedly ignorant name calling. Pathetic.

[46Tbird]

You are a fucking moron.

You said: "Anti-Bush is anti-American apparently."

After I called Pro Trash on sharing three quotes from a FUCKING ANTI-AMERICAN WEBSITE.

If I copy three lines from an article, and then share the URL of that article, that means that I want you to read from the article, and agree with my assessment of it.

I was commenting on the article, obviously, since I stated so. The three lines he chose to quote barely scratched the surface of the underlying agenda of the page.

In my eyes, sharing anti-American propoganda is anti-American. And yes, I consider nearly all liberals to be self-defacing, self-loathing, anti-American scumbags. How's that for an overgeneralization? Why do you think 80% of the world's population would rather have John Kerry voted President? Because they want to see the mighty USA stumble and fall, just like you do.

I didn't shut up, I just never saw the mindless drivel you bothered to type out. In fact, I have no fucking idea what you're even going on about.

So in conclusion, you again replied with a long, boring, redirecting dissertation that reflects a stereotypically oversensitive, vengeful, hateful, LIBERAL stance.

[AL P]

" "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you have to focus on"
— President George W. Bush.

"You have to look at the entire Bush Family in this context - as if the family ran a corporation called ‘Frauds-R-Us,’

George Jr.’s specialty was insurance and security fraud. Jeb’s specialty was oil and gas fraud. Neil’s specialty was real estate fraud. Prescott’s specialty was banking fraud. And George Sr.’s specialty? All of the above."

— Lt. Cmdr., Al Martin, US Navy (Ret). "


http://users.castel.nl/~degug01/citatensid.htm

Its a shame you have to dig around inside the asshole of the internet to find some anti-Bush propaganda...

[exlude]

Based upon the last Democratic President and the current Democratic candidate and the fact they are both liberal, yeah I would also say liberals are anti-American.


See, where you two are confused is: Just because someone does not support a Conservative America, does not mean they are anti-American.

[Paladin]

Based upon the last Democratic President and the current Democratic candidate and the fact they are both liberal, yeah I would also say liberals are anti-American.

[46Tbird]

See, where you two are confused is: Just because someone does not support a Conservative America, does not mean they are anti-American.No, I'm not confused.

If you actively work to weaken the country, you are anti-American.

[AL P]

See, where you two are confused is: Just because someone does not support a Conservative America, does not mean they are anti-American.

And where YOU are confused is:

If someone furthers international, anti-american propaganda they ARE un-american.

I don't agree that all liberals are anti-american either. That's bullshit.

[46Tbird]

The noisy ones are...

[exlude]

And where YOU are confused is:

If someone furthers international, anti-american propaganda they ARE un-american.

I don't agree that all liberals are anti-american either. That's bullshit.

But, I never said that someone who does further this propaganda isn't anti-American. I just called 46tbird on his dumbass remark, saying that if someone was liberal, they would be supporting anti-American ideas/websites.

[46Tbird]

See, I never said that someone who does further this propaganda isn't anti-American. I just called 46tbird on his dumbass remark, saying that if someone was liberal, they would be supporting anti-American ideas/websites.You sure took that personally, didn't you.

Liberal has become so synonymous with anti-American that they've had to change their moniker to "progressive"....

[Spritle]

" "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you have to focus on"
— President George W. Bush.

"You have to look at the entire Bush Family in this context - as if the family ran a corporation called ‘Frauds-R-Us,’

George Jr.’s specialty was insurance and security fraud. Jeb’s specialty was oil and gas fraud. Neil’s specialty was real estate fraud. Prescott’s specialty was banking fraud. And George Sr.’s specialty? All of the above."

— Lt. Cmdr., Al Martin, US Navy (Ret). "


http://users.castel.nl/~degug01/citatensid.htm

And of course we're all supposed to believe what that site says, right? Its not even in English. :rolleyes:

Shoo Troll......

[exlude]

You sure took that personally, didn't you.

Liberal has become so synonymous with anti-American that they've had to change their moniker to "progressive"....

Actually I really didn't care so much about it at first, I was calling you on your ignorant statement...no big deal. It's just when someone who is following a trend of ignorance tries to be snide and condescending towards me, that I begin to take it personally.

[AL P]

But, I never said that someone who does further this propaganda isn't anti-American. I just called 46tbird on his dumbass remark, saying that if someone was liberal, they would be supporting anti-American ideas/websites.

Problem is, he said:

"And yes, I consider nearly all liberals to be self-defacing, self-loathing, anti-American scumbags."

That doesn't mean all of them.

I'd say, for the most part, that he is correct. But that statement is open to interpretation. Personally I consider socialist ideas to be fairly "Un-American". The next guy may not agree. It depends on how you define it and is a matter of opinion, not dichotomous fact.

[01WhiteCobra]

Best page on the web (http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html)

[Pro Trash]

Do you do a lot of surfing on anti-American boards?







Oh wait, you're a liberal. Of course you do.

I served 9 yrs in the Army and never saw your happy ass digging a fox hole next door.

[Pro Trash]

Problem is, he said:

"And yes, I consider nearly all liberals to be self-defacing, self-loathing, anti-American scumbags."

That doesn't mean all of them.

I'd say, for the most part, that he is correct. But that statement is open to interpretation. Personally I consider socialist ideas to be fairly "Un-American". The next guy may not agree. It depends on how you define it and is a matter of opinion, not dichotomous fact.

You consider anyones ideas that don't conform to yours to be anti-american. To be an American means that we should be tolerant of others ideals, you are not and that is your problem. How many times have you locked and loaded a rifle and put your life on the line for this country? Hop out of your white collar world for a few seconds and wake up. I am a democrat and in no way anti american, self-loathing or a scumbag. You may be but if you choose to refer to yourself as so go right ahead.

[Pro Trash]

And of course we're all supposed to believe what that site says, right? Its not even in English. :rolleyes:

Shoo Troll......

I didn't write it, I just quoted it, roll your eyes if you want. I am not saying it is the gospel but then niether is all the stuff written about Kerry, correct ? :rolleyes:

[jyro]

I am not saying it is the gospel but then niether is all the stuff written about Kerry, correct ? :rolleyes:

show a lie about kerry that's written in this forum.

[HookEm]

How many times have you locked and loaded a rifle and put your life on the line for this country?.


Oh please, please....can you tell that story YET AGAIN????
5,437,678,236,560 times wasn't enuff

[Pro Trash]

Do you do a lot of surfing on anti-American boards?







Oh wait, you're a liberal. Of course you do.

This brings me to a famous quote by FDR

"I am reminded of four definitions: a radical is a man
with both feet planted firmly in the air.
A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs
who, however, has never learned to walk forward.
A reactionary is a somnambulist walking backwards.
A Liberal is a man who uses his legs and his hands
at the behest the command--of his head."

[Pro Trash]

Oh please, please....can you tell that story YET AGAIN????
5,437,678,236,560 times wasn't enuff

I was in the Army fought in a war or two, there you go Hook em that would make 5,437,678,236,561 times. You are a jealous little bastard aren't you, LMAO.

[Pro Trash]

show a lie about kerry that's written in this forum.

Show me true proof that he faked his purple hearts, that he was a pro-communist anti-american. That is all BS and you know it.

[Pro Trash]

What, pray tell, is "true proof?" I thought it had been shown that no "V" had EVER been issued. Period. On a Silver Star. How much more true do you get? Oh wait, that's not a PH. Do you really think that putting a grenade in a big pile of rice and suffering a scratch as a result should result in a PH?


And is the " supposed to go inside or outside the question mark? I can never remember that one...

I don't recall asking about what people think, I need proof to show that he has lied about his purple hearts being plural. So yeah some of the stuff posted on this forum about Kerry is BS.

[Pro Trash]

Yeah, his dickhead. :rolleyes: Just ask Bill, he can vouch for that one.

Are you talking about FDR, he was able to pull us out of the depression and win the WWII. Bush isn't even a pimple on the ass of life in comparison. He has single handedly screwed up our foriegn relations which took years to attain and done zero to improve the economy while safe guarding the future. FDR always looked at more than the short run for both economics and the defense of our country. Bush has initiated tax cuts that any freshman economists can see will have negative long term repercussions.

[utdbear]

This brings me to a famous quote by FDR

"I am reminded of four definitions: a radical is a man
with both feet planted firmly in the air.
A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs
who, however, has never learned to walk forward.
A reactionary is a somnambulist walking backwards.
A Liberal is a man who uses his legs and his hands
at the behest the command--of his head."
If FDR walked in the Senate hall and saw what 'liberals' are doing, I can bet he would be choking some Senators from Massachusetts.

[jyro]

Show me true proof that he faked his purple hearts, that he was a pro-communist anti-american. That is all BS and you know it.

Douglas Brinkley, for his book Tour of Duty, that the Dec. 2, 1968 'splinter' wound you received was the result of ( kerry's words here) "a half-assed action that hardly qualified as combat."

Retired Maj. Gen. George S. Patton III, who had commanded combat troops in Vietnam, said that, medals or no medals, by the nature of his wartime protests Kerry gave "aid and comfort to the enemy" in the style of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda.

As a Senator, he tried to negotiate the survival of the communist Sandinista regime in Nicaragua and opposing President Ronald Reagan's policy of supporting anti-communist forces.

Kerry was a supporter of the ‘People's Peace Treaty,' drawn up in communist East Germany.

Kerry was negotiating with the communist enemy. He recommended that we immediately accept the enemies terms.

I never said Kerry was a communist, I said he was one of the communist's heros.


JOHN KERRY SENATE TESTIMONY 1971
" Democracy has to remain reponsive. When it does not, you create the possibilities for all kinds of other systems to supplant it, and that very possibility, I think, is beginning to exist in this country."

[Pro Trash]

It's really not a thought. It's a fact that there has never been a "V" on a SS. As seen here (http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips28.html) It is also a fact that the Kerry camp has admitted that the claims of injury on 2 out of the 3 PHs were exaggerated. Those are definitely not thoughts. As evidenced to some small degree below.

Are you aware that he wrote many, if not all, of the battlefield reports that resulted in those awards? Clickie (http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200408/NAT20040826a.html)


Interesting read on the facts (http://www.swiftvets.com/article.php?story=20040808144320243)

Taken from this guys post right hirra (http://www.tacticalgamer.com/showpost.php?p=98131&postcount=64). Get about halfway down on either of those last two links for a description of this noble leaders war wounds...

I am supposed to take the word of the very people who are backed by republicans set on destroying Kerry. That in itself takes any objectivity out of the claim. I don't beleive half the stuff written about Bush, ask yourself why? It is simple,I am intelligent enough to realize that at the minimum 65% of the things said about either candidate are complete farses. Come on Mike, I would hope you are at the very least not blind enough to rely on a party backed slander pages. Fun to push but not wise to believe

[Pro Trash]

If FDR walked in the Senate hall and saw what 'liberals' are doing, I can bet he would be choking some Senators from Massachusetts.

And beating Cheney with his cain. He was a man who believed in giving Americans a job not making himself rich. Cheney and Bush are business who should have never been given the election of 2000.

[utdbear]

And beating Cheney with his cain. He was a man who believed in giving Americans a job not making himself rich. Cheney and Bush are business who should have never been given the election of 2000.
Does running a company that employs 85,000 people count as giving Americans jobs? John Edwards made a killing off of frivolous personal injury lawsuit settlements, should that have an impact on what kinds of businessmen should run for political office? How about the Ketchup Queen? Johnny K does have three Purple Hearts, so I guess that overrides all of that stuff.

[Sgt Beavis]

Should I be surprised that a liberal is quoting a Conspiracy Theorist. I guess not since most liberals are conspiracy theorist to begin with.

Now excuse me while I go report you to the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

[HookEm]

The USN has never issued a V insignia with a SS, yet your buddy claims he has one....

Yea, it's that damn VRWC again.


:rolleyes:


I am supposed to take the word of the very people who are backed by republicans set on destroying Kerry. That in itself takes any objectivity out of the claim. I don't beleive half the stuff written about Bush, ask yourself why? It is simple,I am intelligent enough to realize that at the minimum 65% of the things said about either candidate are complete farses. Come on Mike, I would hope you are at the very least not blind enough to rely on a party backed slander pages. Fun to push but not wise to believe

[46Tbird]

This brings me to a famous quote by FDR...
Which brings me to a famous quote by Sir Winston Churchill:

"A young man who is a conservative has no heart. An old man who is a liberal has no brain."

[TAMUz06]

He has single handedly screwed up our foriegn relations which took years to attain


The foreign relations built by the same man who withdrew troops from Somalia without completing the mission, thereby invalidating the deaths of those who fought there? I love that kind of foreign relations! Let's have something like that back!

*rolleyes*


of course, I wasn't there for that, so what do I know...

[AL P]

Which brings me to a famous quote by Sir Winston Churchill:

"A young man who is a conservative has no heart. An old man who is a liberal has no brain."

So how old is Pro Trash anyway??

LOL!