What does it take for a car to beat a stock hayabusa?

[STANGGT40]

this guy, at work, has a hayabusa, that i assume is 3-4 years old...it's red, if that tells you anything. anyway, he was bragging about how he can beat pretty much anything on the road....i was just curious what it would take, for a car, to keep up with/beat him, and in what conditions. i would assume that, from a roll, he would have an advantage, but i think that those things run in the high 9's, in the 1/4, from the factory...right? so, from a roll or from a punch, which is the best way, and what's it going to take?

brad

[STANGGT40]

oh yeah, he keeps talking about his blown big block road runner, and i think that i have that one covered (if it actually exists)...i'm just curious of what it would take for the bike. i really don't know much, at all, about those things!

brad

[Murph Tang]

Boy you would need a lot to beat one of those Red Roosters. If you are trying to beat him you probably would have to race from a roll way past triple digits....thats where bike guys get a little nervous.

I've raced a few bikes and the way to win is up top.

[94StangFiveO]

Go from a stop. Majority of cars will take bikes out of the whole unless they're lowered and have an extended swingarm. This will make the bike play catch-up a little. But, you will have to go high up into triple digits to get ahead. Busa's can hit around 200 mph STOCK. Find a car that can hook on the street, run in the 9's in the 1/4, and go high into triple digit speeds.

[94StangFiveO]

Boy you would need a lot to beat one of those Red Roosters. If you are trying to beat him you probably would have to race from a roll way past triple digits....thats where bike guys get a little nervous.

I've raced a few bikes and the way to win is up top.


I'm not scared to top mine out. I've done it numerous times while racing whether it be a car or another bike.:D

[Monsoon X]

Brad-
You'll need about 140mph in the 1/4

[stocksilver02]

That or the driver of the busa needs to suck.

[94StangFiveO]

That or the rider of the busa needs to suck.



FIXED!

[stocksilver02]

Same differential.

[Phoenix383]

Hell run him in the 1/8! makes i even harder for him to get it rolling!

Its too bad some fool has to buy a bike built by someone else to be able to beat a car anyway!

Sounds like a puss to me!

[STANGGT40]

Brad-
You'll need about 140mph in the 1/4

i'm nowhere close!:( it's a 2000 busa, btw.

brad

[turbostang]

before I put the turbos on my car I was running 7.5's in the 1/8 regurlarly.. I got my ass drug by my friends TL1000 from a dead stop.. You can't race a bike from a stop unless your car is on the track.. especially if you have decent enough power to keep up in the first place.. Your best bet would be rolling...

at the track it would be a different story... majority of the street prepp'd bikes can't 60ft. worth a damn.. I'd be more than happy to run a stock 'busa at the track :D

[musclestang89]

at the track it would be a different story... majority of the street prepp'd bikes can't 60ft. worth a damn.. I'd be more than happy to run a stock 'busa at the track :D



I bet you would now the way your car is running. :D

[Blacksunshine 357]

Brad-
You'll need about 140mph in the 1/4Every bit of 140 in the 1/4.

[Denny]

One turn of the wheel on take off!

[Eric357]

before I put the turbos on my car I was running 7.5's in the 1/8 regurlarly.. I got my ass drug by my friends TL1000 from a dead stop.. You can't race a bike from a stop unless your car is on the track.. especially if you have decent enough power to keep up in the first place.. Your best bet would be rolling...

at the track it would be a different story... majority of the street prepp'd bikes can't 60ft. worth a damn.. I'd be more than happy to run a stock 'busa at the track :DI'd put my money on the little red LX. :eek:

[mustang636]

Some of u are saying to go from a rolling but theres no way. I have a 03 ninja 636 and a supercharged coupe and if i can get a car to go from a rolling then im almost a automatic win unless that car is something crazy fast. Your best bet is to go from a dead stop and hope to god you hook up and only go for an 1/8 mile or so, otherwise he'll fly right by you at the end. Also keep in mind though that most people with sportbikes dont know how to drag race very well. Its alot harder to get a good launch than most people think.

[Josh]

Tell him I'll race him....In a few months.

[Cmarsh93z]

A stock Hyabusa can run anywhere from 6.5 @ 115 - 6.0 @ 120mph in the 1/8, depending on the rider. You would need atleast ~700rwhp in a car setup really good be able to consistantly beat a Busa. My stock Zx12 went a 6.1 @ 119 in the 1/8....you don't find many cars that run 120 in the 1/8 :)

And to whoever said riding a bike is the puss way out.....try it for yourself. Drag racing a motorcycle has got to be one of the hardest sports out there...people just don't realize the skill you need!

Chris
9.6 @ 147
stock Zx12

[Cmarsh93z]

FWIW....When I was messing with my air-shifter, there was several runs where I would just launch, and then miss 2nd...and coast the rest of the way. Just running the 60', and letting it coast..I would run 6.9's @ 80 :) Et is all in the first 330 feet!

Chris

[ELVIS]

to my knowledge the red is a limited edition available for 04. i could be wrong though. ( but i am usually not) :D

[Hurley]

All you need to beat a stock 'Busa from a roll is a MKIV Supra with a big single or HKS twins. Anyone remeber the "Walser" 'Busa video from a few years ago?

[Phoenix383]

And to whoever said riding a bike is the puss way out.....try it for yourself. Drag racing a motorcycle has got to be one of the hardest sports out there...people just don't realize the skill you need!

Chris
9.6 @ 147
stock Zx12

I said he was a puss if the only way he could beat cars was using a bike built by someone else. I would spank his ass if I were riding my old ass alky bike!

But hey I would run him anyways in the maro dont need more mph just be the better driver. very few bike riders are worth a shit dragging one.

[Phoenix383]

FWIW....When I was messing with my air-shifter, there was several runs where I would just launch, and then miss 2nd...and coast the rest of the way. Just running the 60', and letting it coast..I would run 6.9's @ 80 :) Et is all in the first 330 feet!

Chris

You talking about a race bike and a rider that is used to dragging his bike. Who knows if this perticular guy can ride a bike from a dead stop or even shift worth a crap. We all know the bike is fast as hell but he still has to ride it.

[spankustang]

Speaking of video. The video of the 740 rwhp Supra racing the turbo Busa and the stock gsxr-1000 on the hwy. The Supra and the stock 1000 were real close from about a 60 punch!!

[Cmarsh93z]

You talking about a race bike and a rider that is used to dragging his bike. Who knows if this perticular guy can ride a bike from a dead stop or even shift worth a crap. We all know the bike is fast as hell but he still has to ride it.

Im talking about my stock Zx12 with bolt-ons, and someone that was LEARNING to drag :) You take a stupid driver, and you can make ANYTHING slow...cars or bikes.

I mean, do you really want to brag about winning against something, only because the driver was tottaly incompitent, or because your car was actually faster??? :)

Chris

[JTrevino2003]

to my knowledge the red is a limited edition available for 04. i could be wrong though. ( but i am usually not) :D


Yup yup..go to suzuki's website and it'll tell ya.

[GR8WHITE]

I've never been beat by a 'Busa at the track, and I've probably raced 5-10 of them. Now I'm not saying that a good driver couldn't row right past me, but I have yet to have one pass me. Most of the ones I have raced have run in the 6.60-6.30 range.
I guess I just haven't gone up against a decent driver. That 6.1 @ 119 in the ZX-12 by Marsh must have been a helluva ride....Pretty damn good driving too.
What are "average" times for a ZX-12 assuming an average rider?

[Slow14U]

I don't know if you guys are talking about the hyabusa 1300 or not, but I've raced one from a 40 punch. My 150-shot, cam, 4.10's, 6-speed to his stock 1300. I saw about 15 carlengths in between me and the busa at 169 mph :eek:
That was a scary ass race. I sprayed third, fourth, and fifth. I will never do that again.

[Blue99Ws7]

Those things are killer fast

[mardyn]

here's your answer.... it's un-freakin' believable



http://nickslick.com/viper2.wmv


mardyn :eek:

[1994SilverGT]

some fast ass bikes

[Blue99Ws7]

They be movin man, the speedo moves fast as hell

[Phoenix383]

Im talking about my stock Zx12 with bolt-ons, and someone that was LEARNING to drag :) You take a stupid driver, and you can make ANYTHING slow...cars or bikes.

I mean, do you really want to brag about winning against something, only because the driver was tottaly incompitent, or because your car was actually faster??? :)

Chris

Yup I agree! :)

[AnotherRedHead]

I will murder any car from a roll. I will murder any car on the street. I will murder Andrew at the track! hahaha I want to race!

[turbostang]

I will murder any car from a roll. I will murder any car on the street. I will murder Andrew at the track! hahaha I want to race!


No one said anything about your 60" coffin on wheels... You have a long ways to go before you can catch Andrew...

[Cmarsh93z]

No one said anything about your 60" coffin on wheels...Its too fast You are only a suspension change away before you can catch Andrew...

FIXED for bighead

[Andrew]

I will murder any car from a roll. I will murder any car on the street. I will murder Andrew at the track! hahaha I want to race!

I should get my converter back tomorrow... I might be at the track on Saturday if you want some!

[turbostang]

FIXED for bighead


I guess I'd better zip my pants up so you'll quit callin' me bighead :eek:

[Josh]

I will murder any car from a roll. I will murder any car on the street. I will murder Andrew at the track! hahaha I want to race!

Okay here is one you can race.
http://www.brucelitton.com/jr_todd_norwalk.jpg

[AnotherRedHead]

2 tenths aint shit when I got 10mph on him in the 1/8th bitches! Ready to race suckas! Its sitting here with someones name on it! :)

[Andrew]

:rolleyes:

[Cmarsh93z]

:rolleyes:

Don't be scared wiring warrior! :)

Chris

[1slocoupe]

oh yeah, he keeps talking about his blown big block road runner, and i think that i have that one covered (if it actually exists)...brad

you better do your homework...the road runner's aren't slow even stock....most of them had 383's 335hp stock....the 440 was 390hp, and was under rated due to insurance purposes....A blown 440 built right can produce an EASY 650hp.....if it has a blown HEMI you better hang it up now....cause you won't be able to beat a blown hemi....This is what you need to outrun the bike, a 74' dodge Dart with a 672ci procharged HEMI....

[AnotherRedHead]

Im considering the track tonight, whos going?

[turbostang]

Im considering the track tonight, whos going?


I'll be there with or with the car.. I need to get the front end aligned and some dyno time. :(

[GARS04]

Im considering the track tonight, whos going?

All this damn talk about Busa this and Busa that......I've drug 2 of them so far on the highway, and 3-4 at the track.

ZX10R BABY......

I dropped two teeth in the front and threw a shenko on the back. I'll be at Denton tonight beating up on my old best of 6.47 @ 118 (stock).

[Cmarsh93z]

That Zx10 is damn fast...especially with a jockey on it! Nothing like 60 inchs of BOOST!


http://www.arlingtonmotorsports.com/images/nickchill.jpg

Who wants some?

[GARS04]

Bring that thing to Denton Tonight, I wanna watch it run!

[hotrod66stang]

i don't know about beating a new hyabusa, but the first ones to come out were 0-60 in 2.? seconds and topped out just under/over 200 mph depending on the bike/rider.

[AnotherRedHead]

you are all ball lickers....

[STANGGT40]

you are all ball lickers....

i'll race at ennis, if you give me a 8 second head start! lol

how much would everything cost, to put the turbo, etc. on a new busa?

brad

[NayNay]

$30k-ish including a bike.

[Andrew]

You're lucky I haven't gotten my converter back yet... I'd be out there to bust that ass!

[STANGGT40]

$30k-ish including a bike.

:eek: the bike is only $11k, right?

[AnotherRedHead]

Andrew I got something for your ass. New clutch springs and a new tune on my shit and Im all up in that ass bitch!

[Andrew]

ARH, I'll have something for your ass too... tighter converter that gives me more than a 300 rpm powerband, wheeliebars for a real man's launch, more boost, and if that's not enough, I'll have a whole new can of whoopass for ya by the end of the year!

[JamesB]

Andrew I got something for your ass. New clutch springs and a new tune on my shit and Im all up in that ass bitch!


who says Andrew doesn't have a new tune?... or new something, opps did I say that? ;)

[Andrew]

who says Andrew doesn't have a new tune?... or new something, opps did I say that? ;)


:mad: don't let the cat out of the bag, James! ;)

[JamesB]

ARH, I'll have something for your ass too... tighter converter that gives me more than a 300 rpm powerband, wheeliebars for a real man's launch, more boost, and if that's not enough, I'll have a whole new can of whoopass for ya by the end of the year!


I wonder if that bike will be running 4's by the end of the year? :eek:

[Andrew]

I wonder if that bike will be running 4's by the end of the year? :eek:

:D

[NayNay]

ARH, I'll have something for your ass too... tighter converter that gives me more than a 300 rpm powerband, wheeliebars for a real man's launch, more boost, and if that's not enough, I'll have a whole new can of whoopass for ya by the end of the year!

Everybodi I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!

Andrew has officially puused out and decided to put bars on his shit!!! bye bye 'streetable' car!

[Josh]

Bars are removable right?

[NayNay]

Bars are gay, no??

[AnotherRedHead]

wheelie bars are for fags.....come on you fucking bitches, I dont have bars on my short ass bike and you are putting them on your cars? Bitches, thats what the bumper is for!

[NayNay]

w3rd!!

[GARS04]

Bars are gay, no??

Man Rodney, for someone that's never run a 6 second time slip you sure talk alot shit! :D

[Andrew]

Bars are removable right?

Bars are easily removeable.

ARH - you'd better be happy that I didn't show up to Kennedale last friday. I heard that bike of yours wasn't running so good.

[Phoenix383]

wheelie bars are for fags.....come on you fucking bitches, I dont have bars on my short ass bike and you are putting them on your cars? Bitches, thats what the bumper is for!


Thats because if a car pulls a wheelie it really has power and shit breaks when it comes down on a bike its baby weight and easy to go fast! :p

[Cmarsh93z]

Set your suspension up right, and you won't wheelie!!!

Chris

[SNEAKY]

more then three pass's down the track with a new setup to tune the suspension and it will not wheelie out. come on man, when have you known Andrew to settle for the ET's he is running, you know that this time next year he will be going a second faster then he is now. :p


bring on the 70" wheelbase Nick Cox

[AnotherRedHead]

i ran like poo poo on friday. Im gonna go out on wednesday and see if I can get this figured out.

Nick

[Andrew]

Set your suspension up right, and you won't wheelie!!!

Chris

So you're saying that all of the FFW Renegade racers shouldn't need wheelie bars and that none of them know
how to set up suspension?

How about NHRA Pro Stock? They don't know how to set their suspension up either?

LMAO!

[Cmarsh93z]

What I am saying is that I have personally seen Keiths 28x10 inch tire coupe pull multiple 1.2x 60's, run mid 8's, and only wheelie 6 inchs off the ground.

What, do you think you are, pro stock? LOL

Chris

[Andrew]

What I am saying is that I have personally seen Keiths 28x10 inch tire coupe pull multiple 1.2x 60's, run mid 8's, and only wheelie 6 inchs off the ground.

What, do you think you are, pro stock? LOL

Chris

He could launch harder and run faster if he had wheelie bars. Period.

[Cmarsh93z]

What about if he installed some 90/10's and a airbag in the right rear??? :rolleyes:

Chris

[Phoenix383]

Set your suspension up right, and you won't wheelie!!!

Chris

LOL now I know you losing your mind at a certian point you have no choice but to put wheelie bars on. Right suspension will not keep the front tires down.

[Roliath]

that video was bad ass and he made crazy hp from that setup he had

[NayNay]

Man Rodney, for someone that's never run a 6 second time slip you sure talk alot shit! :D

I quit at 11s...besides i havent even been on a track in prolly 3 years :rolleyes:

[STROKD]

I quit at 11s...besides i havent even been on a track in prolly 3 years :rolleyes:
He was talking 1/8th mile, hell I could "ride" an 11 second 1/8th mile, my first time on a bike. ;)

[NayNay]

ehhh, okay then, I quit racing when i went 7.4s :rolleyes:

[JamesB]

What I am saying is that I have personally seen Keiths 28x10 inch tire coupe pull multiple 1.2x 60's, run mid 8's, and only wheelie 6 inchs off the ground.

What, do you think you are, pro stock? LOL

Chris


there's a big difference between 8.50's and 7's

[Jetfast50]

Really?

[djshanku]

I have so much respect for ppl who drive sport bikes, they scare the shit outta me, 170mph on 2 wheels?!?! Hell no

[85MMTangerine]

http://members.shaw.ca/dynomotive/stangvsbusa.wmv

this was a t76 turbo mustang vs. a busa with n20...


tommy :D