Bush and his record?

[Waddell72]

Does anyone else think that it is funny that the Bush administration is getting off easy for a major screw up. Clinton was almost impeached for letting an intern perform oral sex. Bush and his staff misleads us into a war he has no clue how to get out of, gets over 500 service members killed. No one seems to be calling for him to answer up to his poor leadership and even worse his ignorance to our slumping economy.

Not sure about anyone else but I am very tired of seeing our men and women in uniform killed for non-9-11-01 reasons. I understand that service members have a duty to move out when called by our nation. I served for nine years. I also know that it is the duty of the President and his staff to make sure they have their stuff together before we invade another nation and fail to lay out a complete plan. The Bush administration has dropped the ball.

What is our nations fate if the country is to be run by those chosen on capital hill before the voters can really choose. I think Kerry and Bush are bad choices.

[KJ94GT]

I think you need to study which forum this belongs to.
Oh, and Bush in 04, from an ex-servicemember.

[PooterWS6]

And Gore would have been a good choice?
NO.
Im not picking sides but Bush was the lesser of two evils IMO.

[Cooter]

I voted for Bush as the lesser of two evils...

and I'm sad to say that I'll probably be voting for him again as the lesser of two evils. :(

Forrest

[97GreenskillsGT]

Why can't ralph nader run again and we all just vote for him?

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Does anyone else think that it is funny that the Bush administration is getting off easy for a major screw up. Clinton was almost impeached for letting an intern perform oral sex. Bush and his staff misleads us into a war he has no clue how to get out of, gets over 500 service members killed. No one seems to be calling for him to answer up to his poor leadership and even worse his ignorance to our slumping economy.

Not sure about anyone else but I am very tired of seeing our men and women in uniform killed for non-9-11-01 reasons. I understand that service members have a duty to move out when called by our nation. I served for nine years. I also know that it is the duty of the President and his staff to make sure they have their stuff together before we invade another nation and fail to lay out a complete plan. The Bush administration has dropped the ball.

What is our nations fate if the country is to be run by those chosen on capital hill before the voters can really choose. I think Kerry and Bush are bad choices.


ahhhh typical brainwashing. i hope you realize that everything you spit out in this post is straight out of the media. do you believe everything you see on CNN or fox news? if you do then i have a beatiful chateau for sale on the beach in arizona. thats partly whats wrong with this country.. the whole place is run by the big media. they show you what they want to show you. you don't see the whole truth. this leads to a land full of harmless sheep who are unaware of the true pack of wolves.

[fastfordfan1]

Non 9-11-01 reason LMAO!!! HAHAHAHA Good one!!!:rolleyes:

[Shaithis]

i'd also like you to state on how he dropped the ball? would you rather sit and watch other 9/11's happen?

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Bush and his staff misleads us into a war he has no clue how to get out of, gets over 500 service members killed. No one seems to be calling for him to answer up to his poor leadership and even worse his ignorance to our slumping economy.

Bush is the only one with any balls to stand up to that A-hole. Misleads? Because there's no weapons of mass destruction? EVERYBODY thought there was w.m.d's. Even the Clinton admin. Unfortunately Clinton did nothing when we were attacked the first time -making us look like wussies. Then he screwed up Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, etc. Bush inherited a mess. You can call it poor leadership (and sound stupid) but at least there IS leadership this time. Al Gore would've apologized profusely to the terrorists and pleaded with them to not strike again. John Kerry wants to be an ass kissing appeaser too. Thank God someone like Bush is president at a time when we need a leader most.

[fastfordfan1]

Originally posted by svodave
Bush is the only one with any balls to stand up to that A-hole. Misleads? Because there's no weapons of mass destruction? EVERYBODY thought there was w.m.d's. Even the Clinton admin. Unfortunately Clinton did nothing when we were attacked the first time -making us look like wussies. Then he screwed up Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, etc. Bush inherited a mess. You can call it poor leadership (and sound stupid) but at least there IS leadership this time. Al Gore would've apologized profusely to the terrorists and pleaded with them to not strike again. John Kerry wants to be an ass kissing appeaser too. Thank God someone like Bush is president at a time when we need a leader most.

:D Thank you

[MoonDog]

Look at some of the foreign countries that are endorcing John Kerry, Korea, that anti-Semite Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad. There is a reason the world wants Kerry as president instead of Bush, its because with Bush at the helm the world isn't a safe place for nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists.

<------ served under the great President Reagan and would gladly do so again under President Bush.

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by svodave
Bush is the only one with any balls to stand up to that A-hole. Misleads? Because there's no weapons of mass destruction? EVERYBODY thought there was w.m.d's. Even the Clinton admin. Unfortunately Clinton did nothing when we were attacked the first time -making us look like wussies. Then he screwed up Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, etc. Bush inherited a mess. You can call it poor leadership (and sound stupid) but at least there IS leadership this time. Al Gore would've apologized profusely to the terrorists and pleaded with them to not strike again. John Kerry wants to be an ass kissing appeaser too. Thank God someone like Bush is president at a time when we need a leader most.

amen!

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by KJ94GT
I think you need to study which forum this belongs to.
Oh, and Bush in 04, from an ex-servicemember.

I can put this in any forum I want it's called "public" for a reason. I am also a an ex-service member 9 years army from 89-98 with lots of friends over there. How do you explain his latest goof of ignoring the seriousness of 911. Let me guess Clinton right, well I don't have to study to tell you that the downsizing of the services began after the cold war in 90-91 prior to Clinton getting elected. So pick your posion.

Also I am not ignorant enough to believe either party has the answer to get us out of mess we are in now. The war in Iraq has zero to do with terror in comparrison to Afghanistan.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by svodave
Bush is the only one with any balls to stand up to that A-hole. Misleads? Because there's no weapons of mass destruction? EVERYBODY thought there was w.m.d's. Even the Clinton admin. Unfortunately Clinton did nothing when we were attacked the first time -making us look like wussies. Then he screwed up Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, etc. Bush inherited a mess. You can call it poor leadership (and sound stupid) but at least there IS leadership this time. Al Gore would've apologized profusely to the terrorists and pleaded with them to not strike again. John Kerry wants to be an ass kissing appeaser too. Thank God someone like Bush is president at a time when we need a leader most.

Your statement proves that in the absence of quality leadership people will follow anyone, history proves it look at Hilter.

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Your statement proves that in the absence of quality leadership people will follow anyone, history proves it look at Hilter.

and you find this "quality" in kerry? so let me ask you this. you are in the army, the U.S. is attacked. wouldn't you want your president to issue orders to repel and retaliate? under kerry this won't happen. he will have to go to the un, ask for help from them and give the ok to use OUR OWN troops to do this. Go read more about kerry. he has stated time and time again the he will relequish all power over our military to the UN. i personally wouldn't like that. i don't think many americans would like that.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

Fuck the UN.....and Fuck Kerry!!!
UN, Canada, and France along with Kerry can all suck on WOMD!!

[Trip McNeely]

Originally posted by Shaithis
ahhhh typical brainwashing. i hope you realize that everything you spit out in this post is straight out of the media. do you believe everything you see on CNN or fox news?

exactamundo!
FUCK THE FUCKING MEDIA!!! I love how godamned Liberal the media is, and how they have to yearn and yearn for the hot story. They spit out all kinds of skewed bullshit, im so tired of it.
Never good stuff, just the bad. Why? Because this world is so endowed with violence and it attracts viewers. No one cares about what good someone has done, nope. That doesnt sell.
[Off-Rant]

[Trip McNeely]

Oh yeah and BUSH IN '04!

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Shaithis
and you find this "quality" in kerry? so let me ask you this. you are in the army, the U.S. is attacked. wouldn't you want your president to issue orders to repel and retaliate? under kerry this won't happen. he will have to go to the un, ask for help from them and give the ok to use OUR OWN troops to do this. Go read more about kerry. he has stated time and time again the he will relequish all power over our military to the UN. i personally wouldn't like that. i don't think many americans would like that.

Please refrain from placing words in my mouth. I never said that I felt Kerry was the answer, I wanted Edwards to run on the Dem ticket. I feel that McCain should have been the Presidential candidate in 2000. Had McCain ran I would have voted for him in a heartbeat. When everyone else was serving in Vietnam Bush was hiding in a cockpit for the Air Nation Guard I see Bush as a very poor descision maker, I have never believed in placing our military under the control of the UN. So pay attention to what is written before you spout out about what I believe, I don't put words in your mouth so don't talk for me. I think Bush has really screwed this up and his father didn't exactly help out by not finishing the job the first time. I spent 9 months in that hole in 90-91 and 3 months in 94 so I am quite aware of S.W. Asia and what should have been done. The reason we didn't finish off Desert Storm in Iraq was purely political. As for the terrorist threat, we attacked Iraq on the basis of WMD not for support of terrorist. Now that they can't locate the WMD they Bush administration pulls it's chump card, terrorism. I would love to see terrorism squashed but you can't use it as an excuse for global war at our soldiers expense. This administration seems to act before they think things through. Also we do need to maintain a relationship with other nations in the world and not become isolationists which is what we were prior to Pearl Harbor in 1941.

[fastfordfan1]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Please refrain from placing words in my mouth. I never said that I felt Kerry was the answer, I wanted Edwards to run on the Dem ticket. I feel that McCain should have been the Presidential candidate in 2000. Had McCain ran I would have voted for him in a heartbeat. When everyone else was serving in Vietnam Bush was hiding in a cockpit for the Air Nation Guard I see Bush as a very poor descision maker, I have never believed in placing our military under the control of the UN. So pay attention to what is written before you spout out about what I believe, I don't put words in your mouth so don't talk for me. I think Bush has really screwed this up and his father didn't exactly help out by not finishing the job the first time. I spent 9 months in that hole in 90-91 and 3 months in 94 so I am quite aware of S.W. Asia and what should have been done. The reason we didn't finish off Desert Storm in Iraq was purely political. As for the terrorist threat, we attacked Iraq on the basis of WMD not for support of terrorist. Now that they can't locate the WMD they Bush administration pulls it's chump card, terrorism. I would love to see terrorism squashed but you can't use it as an excuse for global war at our soldiers expense. This administration seems to act before they think things through. Also we do need to maintain a relationship with other nations in the world and not become isolationists which is what we were prior to Pearl Harbor in 1941.

What do you mean we didnt go into Iraq on the basis of terrorism?? Colin Powell went to the UN with PROOF of terrorist activity in Iraq way before we went into Iraq the second time. How unfortunate that everyone forgets that part. Also, about WMDs, the FRICKIN UN gave Saddam 11 years to hide all of his weapons. Imagine trying to find these weapons in a country the size of California all made of sand. Also, he had Syria's help in all of this and if we could get in there, you would probably find the WMDs. Even the democrats(Kerry included) agreed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by fastfordfan1
What do you mean we didnt go into Iraq on the basis of terrorism?? Colin Powell went to the UN with PROOF of terrorist activity in Iraq way before we went into Iraq the second time. How unfortunate that everyone forgets that part. Also, about WMDs, the FRICKIN UN gave Saddam 11 years to hide all of his weapons. Imagine trying to find these weapons in a country the size of California all made of sand. Also, he had Syria's help in all of this and if we could get in there, you would probably find the WMDs. Even the democrats(Kerry included) agreed Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

Keep telling yourself that, I am sure you really believe Bush gives two poops about the american people. Our economy is horrible, the only reason he is working so hard to get Iraq to form it's own government is due to the fact it's an election year. I have no problem if he does another 4 year term. I'll still be receiving my VA check, teaching school and taking the summers off. I trust Powell but he was just repeating what he was told by the US intelligence agencies, unreliable at best. Several countries have supported terrorism and we haven't attacked them. Let me tell you why they never planned to assassinate Bush's father. He threatenen Saddam on world wide tv with that before the war, what leader does that. Do you have any idea how hard it is to stop someone who thinks being killed in a holly jihad is the better than goats milk. You need to read between the lines a little. This administration is ate up like a soup sandwhich.

[fastfordfan1]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Keep telling yourself that, I am sure you really believe Bush gives two poops about the american people. Our economy is horrible, the only reason he is working so hard to get Iraq to form it's own government is due to the fact it's an election year. I have no problem if he does another 4 year term. I'll still be receiving my VA check, teaching school and taking the summers off. I trust Powell but he was just repeating what he was told by the US intelligence agencies, unreliable at best. Several countries have supported terrorism and we haven't attacked them. Let me tell you why they never planned to assassinate Bush's father. He threatenen Saddam on world wide tv with that before the war, what leader does that. Do you have any idea how hard it is to stop someone who thinks being killed in a holly jihad is the better than goats milk. You need to read between the lines a little. This administration is ate up like a soup sandwhich.

So you are telling me that Bush is to blame for the US intelligence being inaccurate??? And what does the Iraqi government have to do with the fact that it is an election year??? APPLES AND ORANGES. Name the countries that support terrorism that we either havent warned or made a significant attempt to recognize. And NOW to the economy!!! It does not matter WHO was president when 9/11 happened, the economy was going to tumble. Its undeniable the a situation such as 9/11 was done just for that reason!!!

[Paladin]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Keep telling yourself that, I am sure you really believe Bush gives two poops about the american people. Our economy is horrible, the only reason he is working so hard to get Iraq to form it's own government is due to the fact it's an election year. I have no problem if he does another 4 year term. I'll still be receiving my VA check, teaching school and taking the summers off. I trust Powell but he was just repeating what he was told by the US intelligence agencies, unreliable at best. Several countries have supported terrorism and we haven't attacked them. Let me tell you why they never planned to assassinate Bush's father. He threatenen Saddam on world wide tv with that before the war, what leader does that. Do you have any idea how hard it is to stop someone who thinks being killed in a holly jihad is the better than goats milk. You need to read between the lines a little. This administration is ate up like a soup sandwhich.

Man, if it wasn't for the liberal media you wouldn't have any sources for your information. Try listening to something other than CNN, or the major nightly news shows for a change. You spew out their rhetoric alomost verbatim.

[fastfordfan1]

And by the way, Clinton wasnt impeached because he got a hummer in the oval office, he was impeached because he lied to the grand jury.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

Perjury.....:D

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Several countries have supported terrorism and we haven't attacked them. Yet! :D They now know we're not the "paper tiger" they once thought. Look at Libya. Just by seeing the assault we put on Iraq they spilled the beans on their WMD program and promised full compliance with the US.;) Now that's making progress! Al Gore would've tried to bore the enemy into submission with some of his monotone speeches.

[PooterWS6]

Originally posted by 97GreenskillsGT
Why can't ralph nader run again and we all just vote for him?
I take it you have cats on your car otherwise kiss it goodbye.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by fastfordfan1
So you are telling me that Bush is to blame for the US intelligence being inaccurate??? And what does the Iraqi government have to do with the fact that it is an election year??? APPLES AND ORANGES. Name the countries that support terrorism that we either havent warned or made a significant attempt to recognize. And NOW to the economy!!! It does not matter WHO was president when 9/11 happened, the economy was going to tumble. Its undeniable the a situation such as 9/11 was done just for that reason!!!

It has everything to do with an election year. Bush wants to show that he has in some way made progress in Iraq in order to down play all of our soldiers getting killed. Why haven't we applied more resources to Afgahnistan? It is because we are pumping those resources into Iraq and for what? I'll vote republican if they show me a candidate that can lead. I can also tell you this administration is to blame for the economy.The policies of this administration have not stepped up to improve the economy. The poor money handling has de-valued the dollar in global econmics, jobs that are over seas have not been brought back as they should. We need a domestic and foriegn policy administration that can step up, recommend and implement new policies for this new age. Also with the right policies we could have began a more rapid recovery from 9-11. I hear this poor excuse about a jobless economic recovery. Might as well be cooking the books in the eyes of the people who are unemployed that rate is holing steady at 5.6 percent.

[Leif]

Originally posted by Waddell72
It has everything to do with an election year. Bush wants to show that he has in some way made progress in Iraq in order to down play all of our soldiers getting killed. Why haven't we applied more resources to Afgahnistan? It is because we are pumping those resources into Iraq and for what? I'll vote republican if they show me a candidate that can lead. I can also tell you this administration is to blame for the economy.The policies of this administration have not stepped up to improve the economy. The poor money handling has de-valued the dollar in global econmics, jobs that are over seas have not been brought back as they should. We need a domestic and foriegn policy administration that can step up, recommend and implement new policies for this new age. Also with the right policies we could have began a more rapid recovery from 9-11. I hear this poor excuse about a jobless economic recovery. Might as well be cooking the books in the eyes of the people who are unemployed that rate is holing steady at 5.6 percent.

um... current events bro...

US just sent in several thousand units to afgahnistan yesterday. The military is setting up long term military bases (14 to be exact) in Iraq. They have fortified a several long term bases in the mountains of afgahnistan.

So what would you do different?

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by svodave
Yet! :D They now know we're not the "paper tiger" they once thought. Look at Libya. Just by seeing the assault we put on Iraq they spilled the beans on their WMD program and promised full compliance with the US.;) Now that's making progress! Al Gore would've tried to bore the enemy into submission with some of his monotone speeches.

Libya can't fix a sink, little less make any WMDs. You read that from a Blair report that has the same background as the Iraqi WMD we haven't found yet. Gaddafi is insane and was done in by good ole Ron Reagan. Now he was a good President. Oh yeah the Iraqi WMD must be in Syria. Funny how if they were we never saw them move. Also for your info we have been operating in the region and controlling the air in Iraq since Gulf I ended. I'm speaking from experience not the news paper or magazines. I did 4 tours over there total including Desert Shield/Storm , Operation Positive Force and Operation Intrinsic Actions I and IV. How can you say what Gore would have done if faced with 9-11 or Iraq? Can you fortune tell or something? It is ignorant to speak for others. I never say what Bush is going to do, I simply point out what has been done. We attacked another nation not sure we should have, now I have several friends that have been wounded or killed. I can honestly say I am tired of the current strategy in Iraq, it is not working. I am tired of seeing our troops being placed in harms way by an unqualified leader. This administration had a duty to ensure everything was legitimate before we acted.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Leif
um... current events bro...

US just sent in several thousand units to afgahnistan yesterday. The military is setting up long term military bases (14 to be exact) in Iraq. They have fortified a several long term bases in the mountains of afgahnistan.

So what would you do different?

What units deployed that is news to me are you sure ? I'm not seeing it anywhere. What size Units, if you are speaking in Division size elements you have no idea what you are talking about. If you are speaking in Brigade size elements your still over estimating or embellishing what has been sent. If you know anything about military logistics then you know it takes 4 support troops for every one combat troop. So for every 5000 combat troops you deploy i.e infantry, tanks, artillery a minimum of 20,000 must be sent to support them, chow, personnell, finance, supply, etc.

Speaking on dropping the ball on terrorism here is what I have been following.

Here is todays CNN top story does Rice have something to hide? "The White House has told the panel investigating the 9/11 attacks that Condoleezza Rice, President Bush's national security adviser, wants another private meeting with the commission. Commission members and relatives of some victims have called for Rice to publicly testify before the panel."

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
I can honestly say I am tired of the current strategy in Iraq, it is not working. I'll ask again. What's your strategy? It's 9-11-01 and the terrorists strike- Bush doesn't talk to Cheney, Powell, or Rumsfeld. He calls Waddell72. What's your advise for our president? (Assuming he could comprehend your vast intellect and military strategy.:rolleyes: )

[Zarathustra]

???

[fastfordfan1]

Come on Waddell, ANSWER!!! The clock is ticking!!

[Traction Issuez]

Originally posted by svodave
I'll ask again. What's your strategy? It's 9-11-01 and the terrorists strike- Bush doesn't talk to Cheney, Powell, or Rumsfeld. He calls Waddell72. What's your advise for our president? (Assuming he could comprehend your vast intellect and military strategy.:rolleyes: )
Yeah really, two planes full of americans blow through New York City, and within hours Afghanistan comes on TV and says "we have no idea what happened":rolleyes: What's the next move?

Later, the problem with Iraq is that the WMD issue is getting too touchy and Saddam is hiding something. So what do we do, we blow through Iraq like a sand storm and shut them down. Oddly enough we didn't kill every single person in Iraq and some of those remaining people have a problem with new government, What's the next move?
issuez

[svodave]

Originally posted by svodave
I'll ask again. What's your strategy? It's 9-11-01 and the terrorists strike- Bush doesn't talk to Cheney, Powell, or Rumsfeld. He calls Waddell72. What's your advise for our president? (Assuming he could comprehend your vast intellect and military strategy.:rolleyes: ) Suddenly Waddell dissappears.:rolleyes: Typical of these Bush haters. They really, really hate him, but just can't quite explain why. Even with the advantage of hindsight they can't think of a better approach to the situation. I guess Waddell is used to simply telling the kids in his history class all his hateful crap about Bush and they just soak it up.:( What a shame.

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by svodave
I'll ask again. What's your strategy? It's 9-11-01 and the terrorists strike- Bush doesn't talk to Cheney, Powell, or Rumsfeld. He calls Waddell72. What's your advise for our president? (Assuming he could comprehend your vast intellect and military strategy.:rolleyes: )

i'll tell ya what i would do... i'd call up the org. in question and tell them the same thing i heard on russ martin the other day.. i'd tell them that i have 2 cities that start with H and N targeted. now are you going to hand over the ppl resposible or are those cities gonna turn to glass?

i can't speak for everyone.. but i'm tired of hearing ppl talk peace that and peace this. it has never worked. show me where it has and i would listen. but history shows that force and power is what the whole deal boils down to. do ppl really think that if we go and talk to dictators like saddam, reason with them, that they would stop the mass murdering of thier own ppl? that they would stop the wanting of more land to add to their own? that our WORDS would stop the maddness? has it ever worked? simple awnser of no. it has not worked. it has always ended up in a fight. and always will untill the day comes that ppl like kerry get thier way and start the NWO. one govt. one controlling body for the whole world. one military police. one establishment that tells everyone what to do, what to think, where to go. thats not for me. i'll go to some unknown south pacific island and live the rest of my years with my guns, my tabacco if i so choose, my own thoughts about how i feel, and what i choose to do with my body and possesions.

sorry for the rant.. but thats just a scratch on the surface on how i feel about these pussies that do nothing but let ppl die while they "talk peace". i think we have 2 options.. either go back to the way we were in the 30's and early 40's and seclude ourselves, quit being the world police, or if we see someone like saddam or bin laden, we go after them and nip the whole problem in the bud so to speak. :mad:

[SlowLX]

Kerry is the anti-christ, he wants to put our military under the UN so the world can be one nation. Next we're gunna see all sorts of mythical beasts of death crawling out of cool-cats apartment.

[Traction Issuez]

Originally posted by SlowLX
Next we're gunna see all sorts of mythical beasts of death crawling out of cool-cats apartment. That would be his date

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by svodave
Suddenly Waddell dissappears.:rolleyes: Typical of these Bush haters. They really, really hate him, but just can't quite explain why. Even with the advantage of hindsight they can't think of a better approach to the situation. I guess Waddell is used to simply telling the kids in his history class all his hateful crap about Bush and they just soak it up.:( What a shame.

I still find it hard to believe some of you keep writing without reading. So "hey dingy" let's check this now. I never said I felt Kerry is the answer, I think he's kind of ignorant in his own way. I also feel Bush is an idiot that got elected for his last name. I feel McCain would been the best choice for America. As for what I teach my kids it has nothing to do with current politics it is history the state has a Scope and Sequence we follow; however, I can understand your just too damn dumb to stop trying to speak for me. I have no idea what you teach people around you but I am grounded in my beliefs and do not force them on others. When I do go into politics, I teach my students both sides of politics and keep my opions out of it, even when they ask. I have never seen a hard core republican teacher do such they are usually pushy. I hate pushy people. I give my students the knowledge(power) to make their own desicions. I don't abuse my position by forcing my views of the world on them I'm not always right like you are "LMAO".

Also for anyone looking for me this weekend, I work on my own mustangs and I only post monday through friday.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by 90 Notch
Man, if it wasn't for the liberal media you wouldn't have any sources for your information. Try listening to something other than CNN, or the major nightly news shows for a change. You spew out their rhetoric alomost verbatim.

Look you, your really getting under my skin. My opinions don't come from CNN, they come from my own understanding. I have went to 2 funerals of dear friends killed in Iraq since May of 2003 and held the son of one of them who never felt his fathers touch. The other was a bright young man I trained at Fort Hood in the early 90's who was following our Presidents orders. I am not a liberal and never saw your happy ass standing next to me in Operation Just Cause, Operations Desert Shield/Storm, Operation Positive Force, Operation Provide Comfort or any training mission or night jump in the 82nd Airborne so shut your yapper maggot.

I am a person that looks at this conflict as more than just some bar stool argument about who the next jackass in the White House is to be. I look at this from the stand point we need to find a way to achieve peace and I understand it takes force to facilitate that. I just want to see someone lay out a long term plan for ending Iraq and getting our soldiers out period.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Traction Issuez
That would be his date

I was fighting in my first war when your rooty poot ass was in grade school so I'm going to have to ask you to shut the hell up, respectfully of course. LMAO

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Look you, your really getting under my skin. My opinions don't come from CNN, they come from my own understanding. I have went to 2 funerals of dear friends killed in Iraq since May of 2003 and held the son of one of them who never felt his fathers touch. The other was a bright young man I trained at Fort Hood in the early 90's who was following our Presidents orders. I am not a liberal and never saw your happy ass standing next to me in Operation Just Cause, Operations Desert Shield/Storm, Operation Positive Force, Operation Provide Comfort or any training mission or night jump in the 82nd Airborne so shut your yapper maggot.

I am a person that looks at this conflict as more than just some bar stool argument about who the next jackass in the White House is to be. I look at this from the stand point we need to find a way to achieve peace and I understand it takes force to facilitate that. I just want to see someone lay out a long term plan for ending Iraq and getting our soldiers out period.

blah blah blah im so tired of people getting mad at Bush for people who have died, its those fuckers who killed em not bush.
and they new what they were getting into when they enlisted. YOU should know that.

[Paladin]

Other than spewing out liberal hate, have you come up with your plan yet waddell?

I love the people who spew liberal CNN type crap, then talk about how conservative they are or how middle of the road they are. Why do people who speak liberal get so upset when called what they are?

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
As for what I teach my kids it has nothing to do with current politics. I have no idea what you teach people around you but I am grounded in my beliefs and do not force them on others. When I do go into politics, I teach my students both sides of politics and keep my opions out of it, even when they ask.Yeah, Katie Couric never really comes out and says it either. :rolleyes: Yet we can feel her hatred towards Bush every time she talks politics. You under estimate your students.....they know you're a Liberal whether you directly say it or not.

[Shaithis]

:rolleyes:

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Ktulu
blah blah blah im so tired of people getting mad at Bush for people who have died, its those fuckers who killed em not bush.
and they new what they were getting into when they enlisted. YOU should know that.

That statement shows how much of a idiot you are. The Commander and Chief that would be George W. Bush has a duty to plan a systematic approach to any conflict before placing our troops in harms way. News flash he did not do that. Collin Powell has even showed his discontent for the way Iraq is going. Some of his advice has been ignored. Also your no better than a commumnist if you view our troops that way. It is also abvious that either you didn't serve in the military or if you did, the country is safer now that you are out.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by svodave
Yeah, Katie Couric never really comes out and says it either. :rolleyes: Yet we can feel her hatred towards Bush every time she talks politics. You under estimate your students.....they know you're a Liberal whether you directly say it or not.


Well I guess you know everything then don't you, so tell me Dave what do you think is going to happen over the next for years. Oh yeah I have a feeling if you follow Bush we can use your initials as an acronym. DAVE Dumb Ass Victim of Economics, LMAO

[fastfordfan1]

Waddell, I sure hope you dont teach grammer or english!

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
That statement shows how much of a idiot you are. The Commander and Chief that would be George W. Bush has a duty to plan a systematic approach to any conflict before placing our troops in harms way. News flash he did not do that. Collin Powell has even showed his discontent for the way Iraq is going. Some of his advice has been ignored. Also your no better than a commumnist if you view our troops that way. It is also abvious that either you didn't serve in the military or if you did, the country is safer now that you are out.

holy shit dude.... that was straight from fox news... do you really think that signing up for the army or other military branch is a cream pie? you sign up with the thought htat if we go to war... you are there. you are going to be shot at and possibly killed. i have yet to meet someone that didnt' think about the risk or possibility. how does that statment make him a communist? how can you really think that no one is going to get hurt? how many ppl have died in the thousands of years of war? War is a bloody mess. ppl are going to die and that is part of what they signed up to do. ever heard of the phrase.. die for our country? you need to sit back and take a look at history and the world and realize we had two options. one to sit and do nothing with our thumb up our butt and wait for something to happen again or go in there and take out the taliban and then saddam. who cares if he had WMD. he was a known terrorist supportter and killed thousands of ppl just for a laugh.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Shaithis
holy shit dude.... that was straight from fox news... do you really think that signing up for the army or other military branch is a cream pie? you sign up with the thought htat if we go to war... you are there. you are going to be shot at and possibly killed. i have yet to meet someone that didnt' think about the risk or possibility. how does that statment make him a communist? how can you really think that no one is going to get hurt? how many ppl have died in the thousands of years of war? War is a bloody mess. ppl are going to die and that is part of what they signed up to do. ever heard of the phrase.. die for our country? you need to sit back and take a look at history and the world and realize we had two options. one to sit and do nothing with our thumb up our butt and wait for something to happen again or go in there and take out the taliban and then saddam. who cares if he had WMD. he was a known terrorist supportter and killed thousands of ppl just for a laugh.

Do you have any idea what it is like to be a soldier. I am 50% disabled through the VA and know exactly what sacrifice is all about try 9 years. I also am aware of history, I have a degree in it. If you knew about history you'd know the communist used to push their soldiers into war under the threat of death which is pretty close to suicide, reminds me of Iraq. We send our troops into those conditions without proper equipment and training. Well right now we are sending conventional forces into guerilla type warfare, reference Vietnam dippy. As a matter of fact go study about the Tonkin Gulf issue that sent us sliding into Vietnam via LBJ. I know history and those whose fail to learn from it are doomed to repeat it. I agree with war when planned correctly and like I said earlier I never saw any of you( that are so willing to send our troops over their now) standing next to me under fire. I do care if the Government lied about WMD, if you don't your just following along like a puppy dog. I am not a yes man, are you? I am not a liberal or a Republican but I can tell you until we fight them in an unconventional role we will not completely destroy them or their will. My idea would be to insure all of our rounds are maybe loaded with a little bit of pig. That way when they get shot by us they already know they are not going to Allah. So the day you wear a uniform and understand what a soldier goes through in combat then talk. Until then I am going to have ask you to shut that garbage pit below your nose that you call a mouth.

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Do you have any idea what it is like to be a soldier. I am 50% disabled through the VA and know exactly what sacrifice is all about try 9 years. I also am aware of history, I have a degree in it. If you knew about history you'd know the communist used to push their soldiers into war under the threat of death which is pretty close to suicide, reminds me of Iraq. We send our troops into those conditions without proper equipment and training. Well right now we are sending conventional forces into guerilla type warfare, reference Vietnam dippy. As a matter of fact go study about the Tonkin Gulf issue that sent us sliding into Vietnam via LBJ. I know history and those whose fail to learn from it are doomed to repeat it. I agree with war when planned correctly and like I said earlier I never saw any of you( that are so willing to send our troops over their now) standing next to me under fire. I do care if the Government lied about WMD, if you don't your just following along like a puppy dog. I am not a yes man, are you? I am not a liberal or a Republican but I can tell you until we fight them in an unconventional role we will not completely destroy them or their will. My idea would be to insure all of our rounds are maybe loaded with a little bit of pig. That way when they get shot by us they already know they are not going to Allah. So the day you wear a uniform and understand what a soldier goes through in combat then talk. Until then I am going to have ask you to shut that garbage pit below your nose that you call a mouth.

so you are telling me you had no idea that there was a possibility that you would go to war and get shot at and watch ppl die when you inlisted? i applaud you for signing up and fighting for our country.. i never said anything otherwise... but maybe i am not making myself clear. i'll try to spell it out as clearly as possible.

the death toll of the Iraq war is less than a quarter of what the 9/11 day. if we did nothing.. and sat .. and went on with our lives like nothing happened, more deaths would occur. no doubt about it. then other groups would see that we did nothing and they too would strike and more americans died on our home soil. is that what your saying should have happened? personally i have never been in true combat.. i've had to dodge the occasional bullet in downtown, but not all out combat. i think if you looked at it from a 3rd person and not personally, your outlook would be totally different. both sides have to want peace in order for it to work. saddam and bin laden could care less about it. they would come back again and again.

and yes.. i could care less if they didn't find WMD. they took care of something that should have been crushed 14 yrs ago or so. yes it took 500 + lives to do it. casualties of war. has nothing to do with communisum. our own gov't used to kill deserters on sight. what is the difference? our country had the draft. the draft FORCED young americans into combat AGAINST thier will. they didn't choose to go. is that communism? if so then what you are teaching is a lie and we need to rewrite all the american history books and replace democracy with communism.

i stand up and thank you for your service and efforts, but your views are skewd by the media and what your being spoon fed. you are for getting out of there, but yet can't seem to let go of the hatred for those ppl. can't play for both sides of the team. either in there taking care of business or sitting here hoping some pansy with flowers can sit down and have a nice pork sandwich with bin laden.

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Well I guess you know everything then don't you, so tell me Dave what do you think is going to happen over the next for years. Oh yeah I have a feeling if you follow Bush we can use your initials as an acronym. DAVE Dumb Ass Victim of Economics, LMAO Yeah, guess who's rebuilding Iraq? That's right, America!! American companies!! American companies who are hiring MORE WORKERS to send out there!! Let me tell you about an economy killer dipshit - how 'bout a retroactive tax hike like none other in 93! Has a Democrat ever seen a tax they didn't like? You granola eatin', esspresso drinkin', CNN watchin', liberal sponge, let me spell it out for you.....You can't tax the country into prosperity. That's been the lefts tactic forever and it doesn't work. Even a 3rd grader should understand that one. YOU'RE the victim of economics -sucks to be you. Actually maybe not, your favorite day of the year is coming up...April 15!!! You probably check the box to give more of your money away. Fool.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by fastfordfan1
Waddell, I sure hope you dont teach grammer or english!

Nope I teach history and you left the (') out of don't there smart ass. So I am going to have to ask you to shut the hell up and set down Mr. smarty pants LMAO.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by svodave
Yeah, guess who's rebuilding Iraq? That's right, America!! American companies!! American companies who are hiring MORE WORKERS to send out there!! Let me tell you about an economy killer dipshit - how 'bout a retroactive tax hike like none other in 93! Has a Democrat ever seen a tax they didn't like? You granola eatin', esspresso drinkin', CNN watchin', liberal sponge, let me spell it out for you.....You can't tax the country into prosperity. That's been the lefts tactic forever and it doesn't work. Even a 3rd grader should understand that one. YOU'RE the victim of economics -sucks to be you. Actually maybe not, your favorite day of the year is coming up...April 15!!! You probably check the box to give more of your money away. Fool.

Oh I am impressed even though you can't read you dumb ass. I said I am not a liberal. I have fought in three foriegn countries under this nations flag so I ask again, have you ever served? I doubt it, your just some dumbass who probably thinks Rush is actually correct and all republicans love Bush. News flash dumbass I have a voter reg card stamped republican, I still don't like Bush and I don't like Kerry he's a dumbass too. I don't believe any tax incentives are going to get our economy under control and those bullshit jobs your talking about in Iraq aren't even denting the 5.5% unemployment rate. I got that statistic sunday from the Dallas Morning news by the way non-liberal media, shit head. I am smiling right now because I am sure your face was red when you wrote that today. Also I drink beer I never drink coffee ever. I don't eat granola I eat fruit, I read I never watch the news it is always one sided either left or right. I work out daily wiegh in at 5'11" 210 lbs, clean shaven, military hair cut ex-US Army Ranger Instructor who put myself through college with my GI benefits. I enjoy the republicans in the house who make sure my VA benefits are well kept and think you need therapy and stacker II. LMAO, Hell now I am laughing now. So make yourself a cup of milk cry in it for a while then get pissy and bang on the key board so I can laugh at your silly ass again.

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
blah blah blaah LMAO, Hell now I am laughing now. blah blah blah


now you get the point. ;)

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Shaithis
now you get the point. ;)

I'm going to have to have to ask you to shut the hell up too, LMAO.

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
I'm going to have to have to ask you to shut the hell up too, LMAO.


nope.. can't do that... i'm calling jihad on the quiet game.

[clean89]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Does anyone else think that it is funny that the Bush administration is getting off easy for a major screw up. Clinton was almost impeached for letting an intern perform oral sex. Bush and his staff misleads us into a war he has no clue how to get out of, gets over 500 service members killed. No one seems to be calling for him to answer up to his poor leadership and even worse his ignorance to our slumping economy.

Not sure about anyone else but I am very tired of seeing our men and women in uniform killed for non-9-11-01 reasons. I understand that service members have a duty to move out when called by our nation. I served for nine years. I also know that it is the duty of the President and his staff to make sure they have their stuff together before we invade another nation and fail to lay out a complete plan. The Bush administration has dropped the ball.

What is our nations fate if the country is to be run by those chosen on capital hill before the voters can really choose. I think Kerry and Bush are bad choices.

First of all EVEN IF WE DID NOT GO TO WAR THERE IS FIRE FIGHT EVERY DAY. You DONT hear it on our news. get a news paper form somewhere like greece and see what it says. you would be suprised. And as the only superpower we have responcibilitys. the Iraqie people where being slaughtered is that right. no I am sick and tired of people like you saying fuck those people it was not our place, it is a known fact Their old leader needed to be taken out. I say hell Yea BUSH for another term......Oh and I am a ex 11 Bravo incase you dont know what that is, that would be the infantry.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Shaithis
nope.. can't do that... i'm calling jihad on the quiet game.

What are you some kind of non-conformist. Just wait til SVO "dumbass"Dave (kinda rolls off the tongue doesn't it) finds out about that. You know Bush believes in conformity and several other words he can't pronounce LMAO. Where is Dave tonight "DAVE" I go to bed at 12:00 and get up at 5:30 to go running. Let me know if I need to hair drag your rooty poot ass around the P.T. (physical training) track, LMAO. You all have done brought my Sergeant side out now so be prepared. I walk taller, talk louder, fuck longer, fight harder, own more mustangs than most people can fit in their drive ways, thats right Dave I am the new and improved economy sized ass kicker of all times, hell can't hold my sock hops, So shut your yappers communist scum. Oh by the way my favorite roll is devils advocate . Do the math LMAO

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
I walk taller, talk louder, fuck longer, fight harder, own more mustangs than most people can fit in their drive ways, thats right Dave I am the new and improved economy sized ass kicker of all times, hell can't hold my sock hops, So shut your yappers communist scum. Oh by the way my favorite roll is devils advocate . Do the math LMAO LMAO!! :D You sound like your buddy Howard Dean! (Angry drill segeant voice starts now...)"Then we're gonna go to California, and North Dakota, and Florida, and South Dakota, and New York, and Washington, and we're gonna take back the White house!!!! AAARGH!!!" DickWadd72, I think I speak for all of us when I say I've been scared to death since I learned "hell can't hold your sock hops." You're the guy the "don't ask- don't tell" policy was made for.

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
What are you some kind of non-conformist. Just wait til SVO "dumbass"Dave (kinda rolls off the tongue doesn't it) finds out about that. You know Bush believes in conformity and several other words he can't pronounce LMAO. Where is Dave tonight "DAVE" I go to bed at 12:00 and get up at 5:30 to go running. Let me know if I need to hair drag your rooty poot ass around the P.T. (physical training) track, LMAO. You all have done brought my Sergeant side out now so be prepared. I walk taller, talk louder, fuck longer, fight harder, own more mustangs than most people can fit in their drive ways, thats right Dave I am the new and improved economy sized ass kicker of all times, hell can't hold my sock hops, So shut your yappers communist scum. Oh by the way my favorite roll is devils advocate . Do the math LMAO


yeah... i guess you could say i'm a non conformist. sure bush is against that. but he wants to keep ourselves OUT of the UN. Wants to keep the U.S. a seperate entity from the rest of the world. Kerry on the other hand is a NWO nut. i sure as hell don't want to be lumped all together with all the other slack jawed pussies in the UN. And i doubt you have more mustangs than me if ya want to turn it into a "who has the most stangs" pissing match. i think i would have you whipped. ;)

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by svodave
LMAO!! :D You sound like your buddy Howard Dean! (Angry drill segeant voice starts now...)"Then we're gonna go to California, and North Dakota, and Florida, and South Dakota, and New York, and Washington, and we're gonna take back the White house!!!! AAARGH!!!" DickWadd72, I think I speak for all of us when I say I've been scared to death since I learned "hell can't hold your sock hops." You're the guy the "don't ask- don't tell" policy was made for.

Who is Howard Dean, Oh yeah a nobody like you, jackass. By the way I am married have kid so shut up peter puffer. I guess your some kind of backass homo aren't you, LMAO. Don't ask don't tell was a Clinton policy, he is the only person I know who equals you in lack of common sense, I never agreed with that policy but you'd of used it commie homo boy. Like I said before I still haven't heard from you as to your service record. I guess you are nothing better than a hippy maggot socialist. Go ahead and get wound up fat head, I need to skip the heel of my jungle boot off that dome you call a forehead. Can you say "Devils Advocate" look up the meaning and shut up. I have been pulling your chain about the political issue for the better part of week now, dumbass.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Shaithis
yeah... i guess you could say i'm a non conformist. sure bush is against that. but he wants to keep ourselves OUT of the UN. Wants to keep the U.S. a seperate entity from the rest of the world. Kerry on the other hand is a NWO nut. i sure as hell don't want to be lumped all together with all the other slack jawed pussies in the UN. And i doubt you have more mustangs than me if ya want to turn it into a "who has the most stangs" pissing match. i think i would have you whipped. ;)

So how many mustangs do you have and be honest no B.S. and if your pulling parts off of it and never plan to put it on the road don't count it, that would be a pile parts not a mustang.

[MouseKiller]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Does anyone else think that it is funny that the Bush administration is getting off easy for a major screw up. Clinton was almost impeached for letting an intern perform oral sex. Bush and his staff misleads us into a war he has no clue how to get out of, gets over 500 service members killed. No one seems to be calling for him to answer up to his poor leadership and even worse his ignorance to our slumping economy.

Not sure about anyone else but I am very tired of seeing our men and women in uniform killed for non-9-11-01 reasons. I understand that service members have a duty to move out when called by our nation. I served for nine years. I also know that it is the duty of the President and his staff to make sure they have their stuff together before we invade another nation and fail to lay out a complete plan. The Bush administration has dropped the ball.

What is our nations fate if the country is to be run by those chosen on capital hill before the voters can really choose. I think Kerry and Bush are bad choices.

Let me offer you an alternative, non media hyped view of the Iraq war.

First off, the situation:

You are president and you potentially have thousands of terrorists and hundreds of thousands of people who dislike your country. A mere nineteen of the SOB's crashed planes into the heart of your financial and military ditricts, sending a grim looking economy spiraling into chaos. You know little of the groups, as a crook occupied the white house before you, and he cut intelligence and military to a shoe string budget.

Second, your reaction:

You attack the heart of the terrorist group that originated the plot, and liberate Afghanistan from their grip....Something the Soviet Union could never do you did in a matter of weeks. From the intelligence you gather in Afghanistan, you discover that there are potentially hundreds of terrorist cells around the world. You might have the terrorists in Afghanistan on the run, but elsewhere they are uninterrupted. You plea the the Free world for help in eradicating these terrorists and you get a handful of willing countries. The French don't want anything else to do with terrorists....they have had their fill.

What would you do?

You could take on a murderous, tyrannical, terrorist friendly dictator in the middle of the region that breeds terrorist activity, under the skeptical premise of WMD. You kick his butt in an incredible show of force and occupy the country. Then, you find no weapons. The world says they were misled on Iraq, and every potential terrorist has a "god given" reason to go try and liberate Iraq from the "unjust" American occupation. Although not an ideal situation for our troops, it is a form of voluntary genocide for the terrorists. Essentially we root out evil on their turf 1/2 way around the world, reducing the threat at home.

You also show the world that despite the downsizing of the American military, it can kick some major a$$. Syria, Iran, and Libya are terrified that they are next, and are, to some extent, cooperating with the US.

If this is the case, it was/is a Brilliant plan. I dont think any balls were dropped, thats a home run and I think history will show this.

Also, please pray for the safety of our troops, they are putting their lives on the line over there so we can enjoy our freedom over here. I have friends over there right now, and I know its their job to do this, but they need all the help and support they can get.

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by Waddell72
So how many mustangs do you have and be honest no B.S. and if your pulling parts off of it and never plan to put it on the road don't count it, that would be a pile parts not a mustang.


hehe no bs here... one 86 GT, 2 89 lx hatches, one 84 svo, 72 mach 1, 67 notch. all in all i own 12 or 13 cars but i think i misplaced one or something. trying to run thru them all in my head and i know i'm missing one. time to bust out the titles i guess.

[MouseKiller]

Originally posted by 97GreenskillsGT
Why can't ralph nader run again and we all just vote for him?

Do you like your mustang? You could be voting it away in exchange for some tree hugging hybrid that makes worse pollution in the manufacture of batteries than a mustang makes burning fuel.

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Shaithis
hehe no bs here... one 86 GT, 2 89 lx hatches, one 84 svo, 72 mach 1, 67 notch. all in all i own 12 or 13 cars but i think i misplaced one or something. trying to run thru them all in my head and i know i'm missing one. time to bust out the titles i guess.

It seems were are even on Mustangs, I have 80 coupe, 81 coupe, 84 SVO, 92 Convertible, 89 LX and a 65 coupe, my truck, the wifes car and my 22 foot boot I spend quality with on the lake. So now that we have despensed of the who has the same crap discussion, I never said I had more mustangs than you, I said I had more than the average driveway could hold. The average driveway holds four. I have six and you have six. Once again you fail to follow the conversation at hand and prove to be a Moron: definition being one who is mentally equal to a 7-12 yr old LMAO

[Waddell72]

Originally posted by clean89
First of all EVEN IF WE DID NOT GO TO WAR THERE IS FIRE FIGHT EVERY DAY. You DONT hear it on our <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=news&v=55">news</a>. get a <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=news&v=55">news</a> paper form somewhere like greece and see what it says. you would be suprised. And as the only superpower we have responcibilitys. the Iraqie <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=55">people</a> where being slaughtered is that right. no I am sick and tired of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=55">people</a> like you saying fuck those <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=55">people</a> it was not our place, it is a known fact Their old leader needed to be taken out. I say hell Yea BUSH for another term......Oh and I am a ex 11 Bravo incase you dont know what that is, that would be the infantry.

Well my old skill identifier's were 11B2V if you aren't up on what that means it's Sergeant infantry airborne ranger then 19K3V Staff Sergeant M1 tanks. I was in Kuwait the first time and have the papers to back up eerything I push. I also don't recall saying anything about pulling out and dropping Iraq on it's ass. Oh by the way it is too late for that. As for where we are now, soon and very soon our troop KIA numbers will reach 600 did you know that we did not loose 500 troops our first 3 years in Vietnam. So At Ease chump, LMAO.

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
I guess you are nothing better than a hippy maggot socialist. I guess you've read none of my posts.:( You're the one who's anti-president -Look at the thread you started.:rolleyes: All we know is your playing ":) devils advocate:) " (a.k.a. just saying stupid crap about anything to get a rise out of us.) and hmmm, according to dickWadd.....Doesn't like Bush,(either of them;) ), doesn't like Kerry, Clinton, or Howard Dean. Doesn't like operations in Iraq, Rush Limbaugh, or our economy. Only thing you cling to is your bitter presidential hopeful from 2000, John McCain. The guy riding in a bus called "The Straight Talk Express.":rolleyes: You sure know how to pick 'em!

[Shaithis]

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Originally posted by Shaithis
And i doubt you have more mustangs than me if ya want to turn it into a "who has the most stangs" pissing match. i think i would have you whipped.
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You the decided to take me up on the pissing match. I showed you up with more stangs. how does that show that i was not following the conversation? I baited. you bit. easy.

[svodave]

Originally posted by Shaithis
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Originally posted by Shaithis
And i doubt you have more mustangs than me if ya want to turn it into a "who has the most stangs" pissing match. i think i would have you whipped.
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I baited. you bit. easy. Damn Shaithis, you haven't had a slow day at the fishin' hole in a while! Between dickWadd72, trashj, 90stang and his foul-mouthed wife...You simply can't lose!

[Wild Stallion]

Originally posted by Waddell72
I can put this in any forum I want it's called "public" for a reason. I am also a an ex-service member 9 years army from 89-98 with lots of friends over there. How do you explain his latest goof of ignoring the seriousness of 911. Let me guess Clinton right, well I don't have to study to tell you that the downsizing of the services began after the cold war in 90-91 prior to Clinton getting elected. So pick your posion.

Also I am not ignorant enough to believe either party has the answer to get us out of mess we are in now. The war in Iraq has zero to do with terror in comparrison to Afghanistan.
Ummm, does the air farce count as the service?
Bush in 04!!!!!

Semper Fi DDs

[Wild Stallion]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Well my old skill identifier's were 11B2V if you aren't up on what that means it's Sergeant infantry airborne ranger then 19K3V Staff Sergeant M1 tanks. I was in Kuwait the first time and have the papers to back up eerything I push. I also don't recall saying anything about pulling out and dropping Iraq on it's ass. Oh by the way it is too late for that. As for where we are now, soon and very soon our troop KIA numbers will reach 600 did you know that we did not loose 500 troops our first 3 years in Vietnam. So At Ease chump, LMAO.
Well dipshit, here I go again, what are you considering the first 3 years of Vietnam? 1967? Go back, way back and look at what the wonderful JFK (btw he was a Communistic Democrat too)was doing, true, there weren't 600 "advisors" over there the first 3 years so how can you kill that many?
You were still shitting Basic training chow and I'd already been laid on 6 different continents compliments of the USMC so take your brainwashed can't CUNT attitude and go crawl back between your momma's legs She needs a screwing again, and My donkey caught the clap the last time I hauled him over.
BTW, thank you whoever put this in the smackhouse.

[Paladin]

Originally posted by Wild Stallion
Well dipshit, here I go again, what are you considering the first 3 years of Vietnam? 1967? Go back, way back and look at what the wonderful JFK (btw he was a Communistic Democrat too)was doing, true, there weren't 600 "advisors" over there the first 3 years so how can you kill that many?
You were still shitting Basic training chow and I'd already been laid on 6 different continents compliments of the USMC so take your brainwashed can't CUNT attitude and go crawl back between your momma's legs She needs a screwing again, and My donkey caught the clap the last time I hauled him over.
BTW, thank you whoever put this in the smackhouse.

I was gonna ask the same question to him, what does he consider the first year. I am guessing since we had advisers in '63 or so that could be the "first" year. I would love to see where he gets his less than 500 in the first 3 years figures from.

[TexasDevilDog]

Some dick head got his panties in a bunch. Oh, the fucking crying! Oh, the fucking whining! Is that all you did in the military, fucking whine and cry? Do you think that you have all the answers!? Do you think that you have more access to classified information than Bush or Clinton did? Get a hold of your fucking self! You don't know shit! I know you don't because, I sat here and read this entire thread with your little pussy moaning and complaining about this shit and that shit. Not once did you offer anything better. WELL, WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING PLAN?! HIND SIGHT 20/20 FOR YOU I BET!

Damn, don't they have blanet parties any more for little bitches that don't put their toes on the line and pull their weight?

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[Waddell72]

Originally posted by Wild Stallion
Well dipshit, here I go again, what are you considering the first 3 years of Vietnam? 1967? Go back, way back and look at what the wonderful JFK (btw he was a Communistic Democrat too)was doing, true, there weren't 600 "advisors" over there the first 3 years so how can you kill that many?
You were still shitting Basic training chow and I'd already been laid on 6 different continents compliments of the USMC so take your brainwashed can't CUNT attitude and go crawl back between your momma's legs She needs a screwing again, and My donkey caught the clap the last time I hauled him over.
BTW, thank you whoever put this in the smackhouse.

Shut up dick head, I have a degree in Hiostory so here I go for your non reading hook on phonics ass. Our first advisors hit Vietnam on 1955. The number reached well over 500 by 1959 when the they established 13 districts. Conventional forces weren't deployed until 1965 being the Army Infantry and Marines. Oh by the way JFK was dead by then dumbass, it was Johnson who really fucked up Vietnam. Kennedy had a decent conflict management record. So if your ignorant ass has forgotten they would be Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missle Crisis. So shut your mouth shit bird, go fuck yourself, your donkey and any empty beer you have piled up in your closet. Oh by the way I put this in the smack house STUPID. One more thing you sound like a closet liberal

[Waddell72]

Shut up Bitch you don't a damn thing either. I never said I had an answer, didn't your momma ever teach you, there are two things you never argue about in life. Politics and Religion, I love to play Devils Advocate and push peoples buttons. Like your punkass buttons, hell I have no plan and I could care less about your fucking plan, shut commie bitch boy. This whole thread has been just a rise to see how many hard core Republicans I could get wound up, I do admit I respect you all for your candor and diligence but after all this is a bullshit forum, so I'm going to have to ask you to Shut the Fuck up LMAO.


Originally posted by TexasDevilDog
Some dick head got his panties in a bunch. Oh, the fucking crying! Oh, the fucking whining! Is that all you did in the military, fucking whine and cry? Do you think that you have all the answers!? Do you think that you have more access to classified information than Bush or Clinton did? Get a hold of your fucking self! You don't know shit! I know you don't because, I sat here and read this entire thread with your little pussy moaning and complaining about this shit and that shit. Not once did you offer anything better. WELL, WHAT IS YOUR FUCKING PLAN?! HIND SIGHT 20/20 FOR YOU I BET!

Damn, don't they have blanet parties any more for little bitches that don't put their toes on the line and pull their weight?

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[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
I have a degree in Hiostory Should've taken a couple English classes too.:(

[svodave]

Originally posted by Waddell72
shut commie bitch boy. :confused: My God, teachers truly are some of the dumbest people. No wonder they need a powerful union to keep a job.:(

[Shaithis]

Originally posted by svodave
Should've taken a couple English classes too.:(


lol

[11B2V_Mike]

Originally posted by Waddell72
Well my old skill identifier's were 11B2V if you aren't up on what that means it's Sergeant infantry airborne ranger then 19K3V Staff Sergeant M1 tanks.

hey... one of those MOS's is mighty familiar ;)

i don't agree with your stance on iraq though. i am a firm believer of .223 logic. the 600 or so deaths are a drop in the bucket compared to any previous full scale war. hell more people died in normandy than that.

one day the world will be able to look back at the ultimate sacrifices of these FEW soldiers, along with the hard stance it took to put them there by our nation's leaders. yes it really sucks, i too know people that won't be making the trip back from iraq and afghanistan, but their deaths are not in vain.

i will continue to give the leader's their support even though sometimes it doesn't make sense. i am not in a position to see the whole picture or what goes on behind closed doors, much like anyone else on here. that's why they get paid the big bucks!!

[Paladin]

I did 6 years in the Air Force and no one made me sign up for that stint. I volunteered for duty and was available at the discretion of the Commander in Chief. I do not think anyone should die unnecessarily, but the price of liberty and freedom is not always an easy bill to pay.