501 hp 526 wtq SRT-4 with stock long block

[91CavGT]

I posted a dyno pic a couple of days ago of a guy in Houston that has a Dodge SRT-4 with 100% bone stock internals(just an upgraded turbo and some bolt ons). He's trying to see how much power the factory motor can take before it lets go.

For the first time today, his FACTORY clutch slipped when he hit the 500 whp mark!!

Here is a link to the thread that will have a dyno pic and a video later today. I'll post the dyno pic as soon as I see it.


501 hp 526 ft lbs (http://srtforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35600)

[OMEGA DOOM]

DAMN!!!! thats bad ass for a lil' american ricer!!:p

[Boss Hogg]

Tell him to go to a track before it blows up.

[JMAC]

:eek: Boy, money makes anything go fast.

[Vertnut]

I hope he has a good set of earplugs for when that bitch vaporizes...

[1994SilverGT]

isnt it still a neon in the end?

[91CavGT]

Originally posted by 1994SilverGT
isnt it still a neon in the end?


Yes, which makes getting beaten by one even worse!!

[91CavGT]

video of dyno (http://www.turbochargers.com/forumuploads/500hp.mpeg)

[4.6 Love]

American ricers rule!:)

[spankustang]

Originally posted by JMAC
:eek: Boy, money makes anything go fast.

I wish I had it so mine would go fast:D

[SVTVenom]

Nice #'s but how much has he dumped into mods/tuning?

[91CavGT]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
Nice #'s but how much has he dumped into mods/tuning?


Total $$ in mods is around $5,000. As far as money for tuning, I have no idea. Probably around $1,000 total.

The stock clutch is starting to slip though at anything over 5,000 rpms so he's gonna have to find one that can hold LOTS of power. He's shooting for 600 hp on stock internals without nitrous.

[SVTVenom]

Yeah, anyone else also notice how they were spraying the intercooler with nitrous during the run? Not too "Real World" air there.

I'm sure if he goes any more on that stock block, it will give up. I'll say maybe 550 and it will be toast.

[91CavGT]

A correction on how much money he spent. It would take around $5,000 to duplicate what he has done. He has spent much more than that, mainly in R&D.


He just posted and told everyone that within 3 weeks, he will have 600 whp.

[SVTVenom]

Originally posted by 91CavGT
He just posted and told everyone that within 3 weeks, he will have 600 whp.

And a cooked block and pistons ;)

[91CavGT]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
And a cooked block and pistons ;)


The block and crank has already been proven to handle well over 800 hp with no problems. The weak link in this motor is the pistons, after that it'd be the rods.

People like to bash this car because it's a Neon, but they don't understand how much PVO overbuilt it. Take for instance, how much power can a stock clutch on a Mustang GT handle? How about the new SVT Cobra? The factory clutch on the SRT-4 has already proven to withstand slicks on the track with 400 hp on several cars. On this car on the dyno, it held to 500 hp. That's just one of MANY things that are over built on ths car. It's not a normal Neon.

[badjimmihat]

i have to admit, those cars (new turbo neons) are sweet as fuck!

[SVTVenom]

Originally posted by 91CavGT
The block and crank has already been proven to handle well over 800 hp with no problems. The weak link in this motor is the pistons, after that it'd be the rods.

People like to bash this car because it's a Neon, but they don't understand how much PVO overbuilt it. Take for instance, how much power can a stock clutch on a Mustang GT handle? How about the new SVT Cobra? The factory clutch on the SRT-4 has already proven to withstand slicks on the track with 400 hp on several cars. On this car on the dyno, it held to 500 hp. That's just one of MANY things that are over built on ths car. It's not a normal Neon.

The only reason the 03 Cobra needs a better clutch is because of the 500+rwtq they produce at 2000rpms even with the Eaton on there.

I for one am not impressed without track #'s.

[91CavGT]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
The only reason the 03 Cobra needs a better clutch is because of the 500+rwtq they produce at 2000rpms even with the Eaton on there.

I for one am not impressed without track #'s.


Track numbers will come. Even with slicks, they are probably not gonna be as impressive as this much power in a Stang. Front wheel drive sucks for this much power!!

The owner of the car is testing some prototype axles right now to see if they can hold up to the power.

[ryan2152001]

my buddy with his 04 srt is having problems with his clutch slipping and he has stage one, power pipe with the turboxs rfl bov an upgraded wastegate and a 50 shot of gas but with only the stage one and 3in cat back exhaust he ran 256whp not to bad

[ryan2152001]

oh yeah the owner is steve anderson, good fella

[Sick89LX]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
The only reason the 03 Cobra needs a better clutch is because of the 500+rwtq they produce at 2000rpms even with the Eaton on there.

I for one am not impressed without track #'s.

Sounds like your a little jealous that a little 4 banger makes more power than your blown 4V cobra motor:p And what exactly does your car run anyway???

That shit is awesome btw, nice to see the domestic 4cyl stepping up to the STI and EVO's:D

[SVTVenom]

Originally posted by Sick89LX
Sounds like your a little jealous that a little 4 banger makes more power than your blown 4V cobra motor:p And what exactly does your car run anyway???

That shit is awesome btw, nice to see the domestic 4cyl stepping up to the STI and EVO's:D

I'm not jealous of anything that piece of "wheat" can do. That thing is probably boosted all to hell as is and won't run for shit because of it being fwd. Lemme slap a turbo on mine and we'll compare dyno #'s and track #'s ;)

[Sick89LX]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
I'm not jealous of anything that piece of "wheat" can do. That thing is probably boosted all to hell as is and won't run for shit because of it being fwd. Lemme slap a turbo on mine and we'll compare dyno #'s and track #'s ;)

Well dont just sit there and talk about it, do something about it:D

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
I'm not jealous of anything that piece of "wheat" can do. That thing is probably boosted all to hell as is and won't run for shit because of it being fwd. Lemme slap a turbo on mine and we'll compare dyno #'s and track #'s ;)

just buy my car and you can embarrass them

[SVTVenom]

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
just buy my car and you can embarrass them

We almost have the same car dude.

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
We almost have the same car dude.

oh yeah thought you were the other 4v dudes... lol... buy it anyways hah:D

[SVTVenom]

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
oh yeah thought you were the other 4v dudes... lol... buy it anyways hah:D

If I had enough money to buy your car, I wouldn't have the Vortech, stock heads/cams still on there ;)

I'm wanting to go with a PTK GT-40 turbo kit.

[Murph Tang]

Originally posted by 91CavGT
Track numbers will come. Even with slicks, they are probably not gonna be as impressive as this much power in a Stang. Front wheel drive sucks for this much power!!

The owner of the car is testing some prototype axles right now to see if they can hold up to the power.

oh I sympathize with you guys. I've only made one pass with my car. I bogged the engine and only ran a 15.0 at 110. Second pass BOOM no more axle.

Will have to await another day.

[98DSM]

Mitsu/Dodge/Chrysler over engineered the 4g63 as well, but the pistons and rods wont last to long at 500 plus hp. The block is another story. I'm sure the neon's block is fine since the 4g63 will handle around 1000...its after that when they start to have issues. Those SRT4's are making some nice power nonetheless. I'm not sure how good their tranny is. I think in 04 they might have added an lsd standard eq?

[Futurama]

shit im impressed, its holding more power than a LS1 bawhahahahaha!!:eek: :D

[32VfromHell]

Originally posted by 91CavGT
The block and crank has already been proven to handle well over 800 hp with no problems. The weak link in this motor is the pistons, after that it'd be the rods.

People like to bash this car because it's a Neon, but they don't understand how much PVO overbuilt it. Take for instance, how much power can a stock clutch on a Mustang GT handle? How about the new SVT Cobra? The factory clutch on the SRT-4 has already proven to withstand slicks on the track with 400 hp on several cars. On this car on the dyno, it held to 500 hp. That's just one of MANY things that are over built on ths car. It's not a normal Neon.

I am diggin the power numbers, but what you are saying is pretty , "normal" when it comes to what the block and crank can take.

4V's are the same in the sense that the crank and block really dont need upgrading, just the pistons and rods. I bet the same goes for near half of all performance cars, like the supra is another example.

[CRASH]

4cyl or not, I'm more than impressed.....but this doesn't mean I'm gonna hop, skip and jump my big ass down to the nearest Dodge house and throw down some bread for a car they should have made awd, instead of fwd. That's my only disappointment with this car. Oh well. :confused:

-Aaron

[dan03mach]

lol slo Thats just some good ol american muscle atleast it will kick the ass of all those inport ricers

[F8LSVT]

Originally posted by Dangerous Miguel
American ricers rule!:)



Anything "rice" does not rule.
If the dude threw $5K at a fox coupe, thats commendable.

[GT40MkI]

Originally posted by spintechstang
Anything "rice" does not rule.
If the dude threw $5K at a fox coupe, thats commendable.

How about someone throwing $6k TOTAL(including car) into a 1g DSM and running 135-140mph 1/4 traps with a/c, power everything, stereo system, etc.

Not that I would have any idea how to do that, but I've heard its possible..

[spankustang]

The problem is that racing a car down the track is a lot harder on it than the 5 seconds it's in high gear at the dyno!! I'd be willing to bet that the Neon wouldn't even make 1 full 1/4 mile pass without blowing up!!! I don't think the motor would take that kind of power for 11 or 12 seconds. With the right tune, a stock 5.0 pr LS1 block could probly make 800 rwhp on a dyno and not make 1 pass at the track!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 91CavGT
On this car on the dyno, it held to 500 hp. That's just one of MANY things that are over built on ths car. It's not a normal Neon.

[NickSVT03]

Its still an ugly ass neon. Nice numbers though!:D

[Boss Hogg]

Originally posted by spankustang
The problem is that racing a car down the track is a lot harder on it than the 5 seconds it's in high gear at the dyno!!

Yep, and much also easier on the clutch, tranny, and axles when you slowly lay into the trottle at 2000 rpms vs. banging gears.

High hp is cool, but if it won't last it doesn't matter to me.

If it were my car, I'd switch the spoiler and groud effects with a regular Neon and paint that big intercooler black. ;)

[91CavGT]

Originally posted by David Z28

If it were my car, I'd switch the spoiler and groud effects with a regular Neon and paint that big intercooler black. ;)


Damn, you found out my plan!! I've already swapped out the biggass rear wing for a base model wing(very small one). I've already found a radiator shop that will paint the intercooler black with paint designed to allow heat transfer. My next step is to replace the rear bumper cover with a base model one.

I wish I could change out the hood and front bumper, but both of them are pretty damn important when it comes to proper air flow over the intercooler and turbo.

[mind]

that guy is stupid man if i had money then i could pay someone to make my car fast and i wouldn't even have to do the work and then i could like go fucking beat imports and shit and then like 2 people on dfwstangs would think i was cool and shit.

but that guy is dumb cuz he probably did all the work himself and he probably tuned it and shit too.
why didn't he just buy a mustang and put a vortech on it or a ls1 with juice so he could be exactly like everyone else, then he would just blend in with the crowd but he'd think he was cool.

man when i get sponsored i'm gonna have someone put a blower on my car then i'll spanka neon.

[32VfromHell]

meh, i LIKE the way the SRT-4s look, the normal neons are just plain fucking ugly. Im all about having a car that downplays its speed, but i dont think i am willing to make a good looking car hideous to accomplish that goal

[Spritle]

There is much more to a car than just the engine. In the end, all you'll have is a chick car. A fast and expensive chick car, but still a chick car.

[Boss Hogg]

Originally posted by Spritle
There is much more to a car than just the engine. In the end, all you'll have is a chick car. A fast and expensive chick car, but still a chick car.
That's not a nice to say about the Mustangs. :mad:

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by David Z28
That's not a nice to say about the Mustangs. :mad:
mustangs aren't expensive lol

[Boss Hogg]

Nor fast, but every secretary owns one! ;)

[Schargedcobra97]

Originally posted by David Z28
Nor fast, but every secretary owns one! ;)

glad i dont own a "mustang"


p.s there are plenty of technicallities that can go either way with that statement so ill just call mine a cobra and whisper mustang into the wind

[Boss Hogg]

Ever take the Cobra to the track? There are very few Vortech 4.6s around here, nowadays. Got pics?

[spankustang]

Originally posted by David Z28
Nor fast, but every secretary owns one! ;)

I won't go there!!!

[NickSVT03]

Originally posted by David Z28
There are very few Vortech 4.6s around here, nowadays.

as are there very few fast ls1s!:p

[F8LSVT]

Originally posted by GT40MkI
How about someone throwing $6k TOTAL(including car) into a 1g DSM and running 135-140mph 1/4 traps with a/c, power everything, stereo system, etc.

Not that I would have any idea how to do that, but I've heard its possible..



Well whatever but at the end of the day it's still rice.

[Boss Hogg]

Originally posted by spintechstang
Well whatever but at the end of the day it's still rice.
That'd be fine with me. I'd drive the Uncle Ben's Trolleycar if it'd trap 140mph and drag some folks.

[zane c]

Originally posted by mind
that guy is stupid man if i had money then i could pay someone to make my car fast and i wouldn't even have to do the work and then i could like go fucking beat imports and shit and then like 2 people on dfwstangs would think i was cool and shit.

but that guy is dumb cuz he probably did all the work himself and he probably tuned it and shit too.
why didn't he just buy a mustang and put a vortech on it or a ls1 with juice so he could be exactly like everyone else, then he would just blend in with the crowd but he'd think he was cool.


Actually buddy, He's paying me to do the work... And by the way: Along with owning a VERY FAST pro stang, Stephen Anderson (leading edge lube) is the primary sponsor for Big Daddy Dwane Gutridge... give the guy a bit more respect and not the usual 'its just a neon' shit.

[GT40MkI]

Originally posted by zane c
Actually buddy, He's paying me to do the work... And by the way: Along with owning a VERY FAST pro stang, Stephen Anderson (leading edge lube) is the primary sponsor for Big Daddy Dwane Gutridge... give the guy a bit more respect and not the usual 'its just a neon' shit.


Exactly...over on the DSM boards more and more "Domestic" guys are converting...alot of us will use the ricer as a commuter or driver if the Stang is down or too serious for the street....

The turbo neons are nice, that one in particular is wicked. I prefer AWD on the dsms, but yeah.....4cyl, appropriate turbo, and maybe a little hose is a blast on the street. Sleeper value alone is great, not to mention the shock factor of being ROLLED by a car with less than half the displacement.

-Sean

[Boss Hogg]

According to the fastest list on the SRT board, the fastest one runs 12.3@111mph.

If they can handle 500hp, they need to get to a track.

[Beenfetchedlately]

Originally posted by SVTVenom
The only reason the 03 Cobra needs a better clutch is because of the 500+rwtq they produce at 2000rpms even with the Eaton on there.

I for one am not impressed without track #'s. We arent impressed with your car either. Wheres your track numbers???

Wanna race a cam only PA F-body?

Mike

[Phoenix383]

Originally posted by zane c
Actually buddy, He's paying me to do the work... And by the way: Along with owning a VERY FAST pro stang, Stephen Anderson (leading edge lube) is the primary sponsor for Big Daddy Dwane Gutridge... give the guy a bit more respect and not the usual 'its just a neon' shit.

Mind was being sarcastic about the others ragging on him for being different!

Try to pay attention to what you read dude.;)

[mind]

i was ragging SVTvenom for benchracin:
i have respect for fast cars no matter what make or how ugly.
i have even more respect for fast cars that the driver actually built.

"Lemme slap a turbo on mine and we'll compare dyno #'s and track #'s "

untill you get a turbo or can claim 500 hp, shut ur mouth.

[SVTVenom]

Originally posted by Beenfetchedlately
We arent impressed with your car either. Wheres your track numbers???

Wanna race a cam only PA F-body?

Mike

Mike, like I give a damn if you are impressed or not. I haven't gotten any track #'s yet because I don't have a track anywhere near me at school. Forgive me if I don't want to drive 6 hrs back home just to make some passes :rolleyes:

[zane c]

Originally posted by mind
i was ragging SVTvenom for benchracin:
i have respect for fast cars no matter what make or how ugly.
i have even more respect for fast cars that the driver actually built.

"Lemme slap a turbo on mine and we'll compare dyno #'s and track #'s "

untill you get a turbo or can claim 500 hp, shut ur mouth.

Ok, I've got a white Eclipse, you might have seen it race a 422 firebird on the bottle on a video before..... ;)

[P.O.S._Dubyuharex]

Originally posted by 91CavGT
Yes, which makes getting beaten by one even worse!!


hahahahahaha


03 black SRT-4

263 hp 287 ft lbs
8.8 @ 83.5 mph
^
^
^
^
BWahahahahahahahahaa

[91CavGT]

Originally posted by P.O.S._Dubyuharex
hahahahahaha


03 black SRT-4

263 hp 287 ft lbs
8.8 @ 83.5 mph
^
^
^
^
BWahahahahahahahahaa


And this is funny because????

[spankustang]

Originally posted by Beenfetchedlately
We arent impressed with your car either. Wheres your track numbers???

Wanna race a cam only PA F-body?

Mike

SURE, I would!!!:D :D

Brian