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SNEAKY
02-01-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by ta2slow
This is a ls1 motor, it should hold 1000hp.
Big Thumper
02-01-2004, 05:40 PM
lol, they are made from a metal called Tawianium...made somewhere over seas.
Jetfast50
02-01-2004, 05:42 PM
[QUOTE]This is a ls1 motor, it should hold 1000hp. QUOTE]
SNEAKY
02-01-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Jetfast50
[QUOTE]This is a ls1 motor, it should hold 1000hp. QUOTE] LMAO
SNEAKY
02-01-2004, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Jetfast50
[QUOTE]This is a ls1 motor, it should hold 1000hp. QUOTE] here is the whole quote, do you still disagree?



Originally posted by ta2slow
This is a ls1 motor, it should hold 1000hp. Only thing you have to change in the motor is pistons and rods for them to live.
Jetfast50
02-01-2004, 05:52 PM
I concur, he is full of shit. He's sure not going to do it with nitrous.

Maybe big turbo and a serious amount of block work, other wise no fucking way.
ALLAN
02-01-2004, 06:00 PM
;)
SNEAKY
02-01-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Jetfast50
I concur, he is full of shit. He's sure not going to do it with nitrous.

Maybe big turbo and a serious amount of block work, other wise no fucking way. i think i will wait a see what DZ, BF and MX have to say about it.
Jetfast50
02-01-2004, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
i think i will wait a see what DZ, BF and MX have to say about it.

I have documentation on this subject, and am aware of the limitations of an Aluminium Ls-1,and what it takes for one to hold together long enough to make that kind of HP. Believe me, you blow a lot of shit up trying to get there.

Jet
SNEAKY
02-01-2004, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by Jetfast50
I have documentation on this subject, and am aware of the limitations of an Aluminium Ls-1,and what it takes for one to hold together long enough to make that kind of HP. Believe me, you blow a lot of shit up trying to get there.

Jet sorry, i left the ;) off
Jetfast50
02-01-2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
sorry, i left the ;) off

Myth busted! LOL!?!?
PooterWS6
02-01-2004, 06:54 PM
I guess i fell bad with all those stock 302 blocks making 1000hp HUH??????
These guys are pretty close with a stock motor
https://www.quartermileperformance.com/project-formulation.asp
I know not close enough but amazing none the less with a stock motor.

They do have an iron block for the LSx platform (6.0 LQ4) its strong engough.;)
poopnut2
02-01-2004, 09:17 PM
So what? It's a different block. A block with a hell of a lot more cubes than a 302. Stock 03' cobra blocks don't seem to have too much trouble handling as much power as that 98' Formula. And I mean a real stock block, not a block out of another vehicle.

I'm sure turbo'd 347's are doing that. The LS-1 is just another motor in my opinion.
Kaji
02-01-2004, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by poopnut2
So what? It's a different block. A block with a hell of a lot more cubes than a 302. Stock 03' cobra blocks don't seem to have too much trouble handling as much power as that 98' Formula. And I mean a real stock block, not a block out of another vehicle.

I'm sure turbo'd 347's are doing that. The LS-1 is just another motor in my opinion.

It's a hell of a lot eaiser when your block is iron and comes with forged everything from the factory.
11secCobra
02-01-2004, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by PooterWS6
I guess i fell bad with all those stock 302 blocks making 1000hp HUH??????
These guys are pretty close with a stock motor
https://www.quartermileperformance.com/project-formulation.asp
I know not close enough but amazing none the less with a stock motor.

They do have an iron block for the LSx platform (6.0 LQ4) its strong engough.;)

670 horse is pretty far away from 1000:rolleyes:
11secCobra
02-01-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Kaji98Z
It's a hell of a lot eaiser when your block is iron and comes with forged everything from the factory.

so... cobra 4.6>LS1?
spankustang
02-01-2004, 10:02 PM
The problem isn't can you make the power, it's how long you can make the power!!:) :)
ZYouL8R
02-01-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by 11secCobra
so... cobra 4.6>LS1?

Making your name before you've run 11's > *
Boss Hogg
02-01-2004, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by poopnut2
Stock 03' cobra blocks don't seem to have too much trouble handling as much power as that 98' Formula.
Sneaky, you should also put this in your 1st post.
Kaji
02-01-2004, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by 11secCobra
so... cobra 4.6>LS1?

Dynamite comback Monty. That broadcasting school really payed off.
11secCobra
02-02-2004, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by ZYouL8R
Making your name before you've run 11's > *

are you stupid? i ran an 11 when the car was 3 months old
Kaji
02-02-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by 11secCobra
are you stupid? i ran an 11 when the car was 3 months old

Calling somebody stupid when your grammar is terrible = retarded.
AL P
02-02-2004, 10:56 AM
No one is going to make huge power like that for long with a 100% stock LS1 shortblock. The piston/ring setup isn't going to take a ton of boost for very long. Not to mention the rods. Not to mention the block and the incredibly shitty oiling system.
poopnut2
02-02-2004, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Kaji98Z
It's a hell of a lot eaiser when your block is iron and comes with forged everything from the factory.

What's your point? You have 346 cubic inches in your almighty ls-1 while the weak 4.6 block is at 281. I think it's safe to say that the 03' cobra motor is a better motor then the ls-1. Stock for stock. Am I wrong? The only thing the ls-1 still has over it is that it has better fuel economy.
Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~
02-02-2004, 08:28 PM
I think an LS1 can handle 2000HP maybe more
11secCobra
02-02-2004, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~
I think an LS1 can handle 2000HP maybe more

DZ's car has done it:rolleyes:
PooterWS6
02-02-2004, 10:04 PM
Actually 11secCobra its putting down 749rwhp and 831 trq and still gaining.
So its not too far time will tell, its still alive so far.
11secCobra
02-02-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by PooterWS6
Actually 11secCobra its putting down 749rwhp and 831 trq and still gaining.
So its not too far time will tell, its still alive so far.

actually, there have been many 800rwhp cobras running since last year on the stock longblock...that means stock heads/cams for all you LS1 gAys...i mean guys
Boss Hogg
02-02-2004, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by 11secCobra
DZ's car has done it:rolleyes:
Since it might be possible, I might as well claim it so I can argue with your 800rwhp Cobra. lol
PooterWS6
02-02-2004, 10:20 PM
Oh sorry a Cobra has forged internals and iron block from factory...
No im not whinning i know its stupid GM didnt but you cant deny that its cool to see a 750rwhp from a aluminum block, hyperpiston, crap rods and crank 120,000 mile motor. How long have any of those 800rwhp Cobras lasted? just curious
PooterWS6
02-02-2004, 10:22 PM
Yeah i have seen 500-600rwhp Cobras at the most where do these 800rwhp guys hang out?
Gaber
02-02-2004, 10:49 PM
IMO best stock block is the 96-01 Cobra aluminum block (no longer in production) was the one cast in Italy by Teksid... These blocks have withstand over 1300 HP+ with nearly 30 pounds of boost at rpm speeds of over 8500... (John Mihovitz's motor is the example)
poopnut2
02-03-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by PooterWS6
Oh sorry a Cobra has forged internals and iron block from factory...
No im not whinning i know its stupid GM didnt but you cant deny that its cool to see a 750rwhp from a aluminum block, hyperpiston, crap rods and crank 120,000 mile motor. How long have any of those 800rwhp Cobras lasted? just curious

Go to SVTperformance and you'll see that many of those guys have 6-700rwhp daily driven 03' cobras with no problems at all. Unlike the ls-1 where you boost it for a couple months and BOOM BITCH!
Boss Hogg
02-03-2004, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by poopnut2
Go to SVTperformance and you'll see that many of those guys have 6-700rwhp daily driven 03' cobras with no problems at all. Unlike the ls-1 where you boost it for a couple months and BOOM BITCH!
Why do that when we can just stay on this site and count the number of 03 Cobras that have BOOM BITCH'd at way less power levels?

<-Owns a 6 year old LS1 with ~90k miles that dynoed ~490 rwhp.
SNEAKY
02-03-2004, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by David Z28

<-Owns a 6 year old LS1 with ~90k miles that dynoed ~490 rwhp. and only ran an 8.70 in the 1/8th:eek:
Boss Hogg
02-03-2004, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
and only ran an 8.70 in the 1/8th:eek:
You talk as though something as trivial as a timeslip really matters. Don't you know "Dyno Queen Racing" is where it's at?

The sport originated with blown 4.6s and took off after the introduction of the LS1. The 03 Cobras have merely taken it to the next level.
SNEAKY
02-03-2004, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
You talk as though something as trivial as a timeslip really matters. Don't you know "Dyno Queen Racing" is where it's at?

The sport originated with blown 4.6s and took off after the introduction of the LS1. The 03 Cobras have merely taken it to the next level. but turbo cars are excluded from this group of, you said "Dyno Queen Racing". cause if they make over 400 and do not run a 6 in the 1/8 or a 10 in the 1/4, then they are slow, and the builder is a jack ass. not saying that you have ever said that, but that is the common understanding.