First Z06 kill... [Archive] - DFWstangs Forums

JEFF WHITE LX

10-18-2003, 05:06 PM

A black one last night up in Flower Mound. There's nothing better than seeing the look on the guys face, like "what the heck just happened?", especially with his girl in the car! My buddy in the passenger seat said "what happened?!", and the guy said "I don't know!"

$15,000 Mustang with $15,000 in mods: 1
$50,000 ZO6: 0

Priceless.

Boss Hogg

10-18-2003, 05:19 PM

Been there, done that! :p

Did you ever take that thing to the track? Last I remember was meeting you at Ennis a billion years ago and you were playing Slip and Slide. Ever get it to 60ft?

OMEGA DOOM

10-18-2003, 08:41 PM

great kill dude! another ls1 or ls4,6,8 whatever mauling!!!!:D but then again, it's nothing new. yawn .

inline 6

10-18-2003, 10:08 PM

I would hope 15k in mods would outrun a Z. goodjob anyways.

White_lightning

10-18-2003, 10:55 PM

it took you 15k to break 520 rwhp?
damn...:D:D:D:D:D:D
good kill:)

stocksilver02

10-20-2003, 04:12 PM

ive played with 4 the last 2 weeks went 3-1 on the highway very fun to race! the 1 loss was a very tough one :)

Head Hunter

10-20-2003, 04:17 PM

too bad you're missing the 'pimp' factor in your car that he has... plus warranty plus reliability ... not to mention resell value... that's why he spent the extra 35k :D

still a nice kill though man... GJ

Cooter

10-20-2003, 04:54 PM

you spent $30k to beat a Z06? :(

66Deuce

10-20-2003, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
you spent $30k to beat a Z06? :( No doubt!!

The Z06 won't get hassled by the inspection brigade either though. Sometimes I don't know how you late modelers do it when it comes to inspection time!

injectedpony

10-20-2003, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by 66Deuce
No doubt!!

The Z06 won't get hassled by the inspection brigade either though. Sometimes I don't know how you late modelers do it when it comes to inspection time!

You get the car registered in a county that doesn't do that smog shit yet.:D

koolaid

10-20-2003, 05:23 PM

Nice kill.

JEFF WHITE LX

10-20-2003, 10:07 PM

To clear it up, I spent $9k on the car, but assume it was probably about $15k new. The $15k in mods is from day one, including everything (tax, labor here and there, tuning, etc.). For those who think that's a lot, especially you later model guys, your cars alone cost close to $24k (my $9k + $15k) if not more. What do you think you have to spend on top of that to put 520 to the wheels and 10 second capable?

About the pimp factor, I'm sure that's what his girl was thinking too when I blew his doors off... :rolleyes: Funny, the look on her face didn't seem to say that...

Inspection- what the hell is that? And who cares?

66Deuce

10-20-2003, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
Inspection- what the hell is that? And who cares?

Ask the Plano Police Dept. ;)

JEFF WHITE LX

10-20-2003, 10:12 PM

I live in Plano :p So far, so good.

Boss Hogg

10-21-2003, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
What do you think you have to spend on top of that to put 520 to the wheels and 10 second capable?
You could do it for less than a $1000 bucks with the right motor. ;)

STROKD

10-21-2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX

Inspection- what the hell is that? And who cares? LOL good one! I agree with ya, but I have a friend who hooked that shit up, so I don't have to worry about that either for a few months, unless he can hook me up again! :D

Good kill BTW, nice to see some fast Stangs still running te streets, and not affraid of Johnny Law:rolleyes:

slowpony

10-21-2003, 11:23 AM

I still street race, but it scares the shit out of me everytime I do. I miss the good old days:D

AL P

10-21-2003, 11:31 AM

You guys are right, the $800 a month payment for a ZO6 is infinitely better!!

GRAYHORSE

10-21-2003, 01:49 PM

I should hope so! 521hp to 365hp :confused:
I bet those things in my 305hp coupe. from a dead stop :D

The "oh shit i just got beat by a mustang" look is priceless though!

JEFF WHITE LX

10-21-2003, 02:48 PM

The Z06's have 405hp, right?

I'd like to see how spending $1,000 on a motor would put 520 to the wheels on a later model. Maybe a BUNCH of spray, but then the motor wouldn't hold up. Plus you'd need more than that anyway due to the extra weight.

GRAYHORSE

10-21-2003, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
The Z06's have 405hp, right?

If Z06's have 405hp then you have over 600hp right?

Cooter

10-21-2003, 02:52 PM

John's BONE STOCK '01 LS1 motor with a cam made 522hp/674tq to the wheels on a 150 dry shot.

yeah, that's a BUNCH of spray, isn't it!?!?! :eek:

Paladin

10-21-2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
John's BONE STOCK '01 LS1 motor with a cam made 522hp/674tq to the wheels on a 150 dry shot.

yeah, that's a BUNCH of spray, isn't it!?!?! :eek:

Is "bone stock with a cam" a GM term?

Cooter

10-21-2003, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
Is "bone stock with a cam" a GM term?

I said bone stock with a cam... IE, stock motor, never had the heads off... stock intake, unported throttle body, etc. etc. etc. only deviation from stock is the cam...

seemed like a logical description to me... :confused:

Forrest

Paladin

10-21-2003, 03:08 PM

I am poking a little fun and trying to learn at the same time. I am wondering if taking an engine apart where seals, gaskets, etc have to be replaced if that is "bone stock"?

I would consider a bolt on car to be headers, pulleys, etc to be more of a bone stock car than one where the engine was gone into, even a little.

stocksilver02

10-21-2003, 03:10 PM

BUT WHO WON??????????

Cooter

10-21-2003, 03:13 PM

no, replacement gaskets don't cause it to be "non stock", just saying, the engine is so stock it's never even had the heads off of it...

I didn't say the car didn't have exhaust, just saying that the ENGINE was stock except for a cam...

and bottom line is it doesn't cost much to get a stock engine to make 520rwhp! :D

forrest

Dolomite

10-21-2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by MaddHatter
too bad you're missing the 'pimp' factor in your car that he has...

Parts-bin interiors just scream pimp to me.

Paladin

10-21-2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
no, replacement gaskets don't cause it to be "non stock", just saying, the engine is so stock it's never even had the heads off of it...

I didn't say the car didn't have exhaust, just saying that the ENGINE was stock except for a cam...

and bottom line is it doesn't cost much to get a stock engine to make 520rwhp! :D

forrest

I did not know swapping cams is considered still stock for an engine. Thats why I asked.

Boss Hogg

10-21-2003, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
I'd like to see how spending $1,000 on a motor would put 520 to the wheels on a later model.
LS1 w/ lid, cam, headers, and a 150 shot.

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
Maybe a BUNCH of spray, but then the motor wouldn't hold up.
Funny, that's what people said to me 6 years ago.

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
Plus you'd need more than that anyway due to the extra weight.
Due to the extra weight of a Z06? :confused:

FYI, the term "bone stock" is a gray area. Everyone seems to have thier own definition.

Paladin

10-21-2003, 03:36 PM

[i]FYI, the term "bone stock" is a gray area. Everyone seems to have thier own definition. [/B]

That is what I am gathering.

Now back to the street racing kills. :)

Head Hunter

10-21-2003, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX

About the pimp factor, I'm sure that's what his girl was thinking too when I blew his doors off... :rolleyes: Funny, the look on her face didn't seem to say that...

Lemme guess... she jumped outta the car, came running to you, jumped in all wet and horny and fucked you right there too :rolleyes:

Your car may be pimp to us car guys and I'll give you props on that, but unless she's a total car nut, and there are a few of em, she wouldn't know the difference btw your mustang and a corolla... just that your cars ugly but fast :D

Cooter

10-21-2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
I did not know swapping cams is considered still stock for an engine. Thats why I asked.

uhh... it's not... that's why I said the engine was bone stock except for the cam... if it didn't have a cam, I would have said the engine was bone stock... I don't see why this is so complicated for you! :D

forrest

Paladin

10-21-2003, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
uhh... it's not... that's why I said the engine was bone stock except for the cam... if it didn't have a cam, I would have said the engine was bone stock... I don't see why this is so complicated for you! :D

forrest

Isn't "bone stock with a cam" kinda like "sort of pregnant". It is either stock or it's modified. To me you are saying, it is bone stock but modified with a cam. Isn't that a contradiction?

My cars are "bone stock", no pulleys, no exhaust upgrade, not even a K&N. The same cam it had when it left the factory, same heads, same mas air, same ignition.

Boss Hogg

10-21-2003, 04:20 PM

Hell, changing a cam in LS1 is so easy it should be considered a "bolt on". lol

Cooter

10-21-2003, 04:23 PM

NO GOD DAMNIT!!!! you're fuckin' killing me! LOL!

ok, should I have said, "stock block, stock crank, stock main bolts, stock pistons, stock rods, stock rod bolts, stock heads, stock head gaskets, stock head bolts, stock intake, stock intake gaskets, stock throttle body, stock throttle body gasket, stock water pump, stock oil pump, stock oil pan... all un-modified, as they came from GM, and a custom Lunati cam"

or should I have said "bone stock engine with a cam"?

everything is STOCK except for the cam... not just stock parts... like ported stock heads... or a polished/knife edged crank... or polished and balanced rods with aftermarket fasteners... but BONE STOCK as they came from the factory... HENCE the use of the words, "bone stock except for the cam"

your cars sound slow! :p

Forrest

Cooter

10-21-2003, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
Hell, changing a cam in LS1 is so easy it should be considered a "bolt on". lol

no shit, right? remove the water pump, unbolt the rockers, rotate the cam around a couple times, pull it out, stab the new one, bolt everything back up and go. such a cool design!

Head Hunter

10-21-2003, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
no shit, right? remove the water pump, unbolt the rockers, rotate the cam around a couple times, pull it out, stab the new one, bolt everything back up and go. such a cool design!

is an LT1 that easy too?

Boss Hogg

10-21-2003, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by MaddHatter
is an LT1 that easy too?
Nope

Cooter

10-21-2003, 04:38 PM

neither is a small block ford! :(

thankfully a carbureted SBF isn't TOO bad...

Forrest

Andrew

10-21-2003, 04:41 PM

Why not have both?

Originally posted by AL P
You guys are right, the $800 a month payment for a ZO6 is infinitely better!!

46Tbird

10-21-2003, 04:42 PM

LT1 hahahahahaahaa!!

Just don't let coolant get on the Opti-Spark. :)

Boss Hogg

10-21-2003, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
Hi everybody, I'm a moneybag trick ho!
Oh, stop being so modest.

Paladin

10-21-2003, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
NO GOD DAMNIT!!!! you're fuckin' killing me! LOL!

ok, should I have said, "stock block, stock crank, stock main bolts, stock pistons, stock rods, stock rod bolts, stock heads, stock head gaskets, stock head bolts, stock intake, stock intake gaskets, stock throttle body, stock throttle body gasket, stock water pump, stock oil pump, stock oil pan... all un-modified, as they came from GM, and a custom Lunati cam"

or should I have said "bone stock engine with a cam"?

everything is STOCK except for the cam... not just stock parts... like ported stock heads... or a polished/knife edged crank... or polished and balanced rods with aftermarket fasteners... but BONE STOCK as they came from the factory... HENCE the use of the words, "bone stock except for the cam"

your cars sound slow! :p

Forrest

My car is slow. But it is very clean and well maintained.

You didn't put the "except" in the first post. That changes everything.LOL

Cooter

10-21-2003, 04:54 PM

sorry, you're right, I said "bone stock with a cam"... I guess I assumed the logical leap would be that since all LS1's come with cams from the factory that if I mentioned the cam that would indicate that it was the only deviation from stock.

I knew we were getting our signals crossed somewhere! LOL!

Forrest

Paladin

10-21-2003, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
sorry, you're right, I said "bone stock with a cam"... I guess I assumed the logical leap would be that since all LS1's come with cams from the factory that if I mentioned the cam that would indicate that it was the only deviation from stock.

I knew we were getting our signals crossed somewhere! LOL!

Forrest

I was not trying to be dificult. I don't know squat about GM engines, other than I don't care to own one so I asked. :D

(BTW, I love fairmonts)

Cooter

10-21-2003, 05:08 PM

I wouldn't want to own a GM either, but I sure as hell would like to have an LS1 engine! :D

Jimbo

10-21-2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
You didn't put the "except" in the first post. That changes everything.LOL
No, it doesn't. Reading comprehension is fundamental.

Cooter

10-21-2003, 05:41 PM

bah, I think it was an honest mistake... he's coming from a world of true 100% BONE STOCK and slow :p cars... like I said, we just got our signals crossed, no worries.

forrest

Jimbo

10-21-2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Forrest
bah, I think it was an honest mistake... he's coming from a world of true 100% BONE STOCK
True, my cousin goes through the same bit with me over similar descriptions. He seems to have a problem with my using the word stock in any description of a car that doesn't have the oil that came from the factory in it.
Perhaps we are too submersed in the lingo?

Paladin

10-21-2003, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by Jimbo
True, my cousin goes through the same bit with me over similar descriptions. He seems to have a problem with my using the word stock in any description of a car that doesn't have the oil that came from the factory in it.
Perhaps we are too submersed in the lingo?

Except that Forrest sees my point, is it stock if you put an aftermarket cam in it? It may be stock except for the cam, but it is not stock with a cam. I have excellent reading comprehension, that is why I had a problem with the way it was worded incorrectly.

Reading comprehension problems would be someone who can't see the difference that Forrest and I see.

Jimbo

10-21-2003, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
Except that Forrest sees my point, is it stock if you put an aftermarket cam in it? It may be stock except for the cam, but it is not stock with a cam. I have excellent reading comprehension, that is why I had a problem with the way it was worded incorrectly.

Reading comprehension problem would be someone who can't see the difference that Forrest and I see.
No, I understood what the phrase meant. As a matter of fact I see both sides. A reading comprehension problem would be not being able to understand that he meant the engine was a stock motor with an aftermarket cam. Being a stickler over small degrees of word usage does not grant you excellent comprehension skills.

Paladin

10-21-2003, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Jimbo
No, I understood what the phrase meant. As a matter of fact I see both sides. A reading comprehension problem would be not being able to understand that he meant the engine was a stock motor with an aftermarket cam. Being a stickler over small degrees of word usage does not grant you excellent comprehension skills.

LOL, thanks for the input. Where did I say that being a stickler for words gives me excellent reading skills. I said I have excellent reading skills. Please don't add words to make your post seem more eloquent.

Can you answer the question you avoided, " is it stock if you put an aftermarket cam in it?" I think that was pretty easy to comprehend.

Jimbo

10-21-2003, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
LOL, thanks for the input. Where did I say that being a stickler for words gives me excellent reading skills. You said I have excellent reading comprehension, that is why I had a problem with the way it was worded incorrectly. Apparently, you believe because you had a problem understanding what he meant, you have excellent reading comp.
Originally posted by 90 Notch
I said I have excellent reading skills. Please don't add words to make your post seem more eloquent.
Eloquent? Are you having a problem understanding what you are reading again? I thought it was pretty plain wording.
Originally posted by 90 Notch
Can you answer the question you avoided, " is it stock if you put an aftermarket cam in it?" I think that was pretty easy to comprehend. Avoided? Why answer a question that is obvious. The reason a cam was mentioned was to point out that it was not a stock item. And yes, I can. It is a factory engine with an aftermarket cam. Stock with a cam; Factory, except the cam; factory, save the cam; All factory, but the cam. etc.
Is it truly that difficult to understand, or are you just a stickler for the phrasing?

Boss Hogg

10-22-2003, 09:51 AM

Give it up, Jimbo. You're arguing with someone who is confused by the phrase "stock with a cam" but has "stock and restored" in his sig. :rolleyes:

Paladin

10-22-2003, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
Give it up, Jimbo. You're arguing with someone who is confused by the phrase "stock with a cam" but has "stock and restored" in his sig. :rolleyes:

Funny that Jimbo, Forrest and I all see both sides, yet you don't. You don't really want to start all over again after the way I made fun of you and neither do I. Hell, I enjoyed it lot, but like I said before, doing it to you again would just be cruel.

Paladin

10-22-2003, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by Jimbo
You said I have excellent reading comprehension, that is why I had a problem with the way it was worded incorrectly. Apparently, you believe because you had a problem understanding what he meant, you have excellent reading comp.

Eloquent? Are you having a problem understanding what you are reading again? I thought it was pretty plain wording.
Avoided? Why answer a question that is obvious. The reason a cam was mentioned was to point out that it was not a stock item. And yes, I can. It is a factory engine with an aftermarket cam. Stock with a cam; Factory, except the cam; factory, save the cam; All factory, but the cam. etc.
Is it truly that difficult to understand, or are you just a stickler for the phrasing?

You said you saw both sides but still don't want to give me the fact that "stock with a cam" is different than "stock except for a cam." It is kinda picky but if you go back and read my first post I was also making my normal "LS1 stock with..." joke. The joke was my main reason for posting the question in the first place. I then took an oppurtunity to pick Forrests brain a little bit. He even caught what I was doing I think. After all, this is a mustang site.

I took your reading comprehension as a tacky/insulting/smartalic remark and responded in kind. If it was intended that way then I was wrong. If it was, well there ya go.

Boss Hogg

10-22-2003, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
Funny that Jimbo, Forrest and I all see both sides, yet you don't.
Please tell me when I said I did not see both sides. :rolleyes:

Schargedcobra97

10-22-2003, 04:00 PM

quote:
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Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
I'd like to see how spending $1,000 on a motor would put 520 to the wheels on a later model.
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Originally posted by David Z28
[B]LS1 w/ lid, cam, headers, and a 150 shot.

that's a lot more than 1000

Boss Hogg

10-22-2003, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
that's a lot more than 1000
Check out LS1.com's classifieds. Stuff is cheap nowadays.

Schargedcobra97

10-22-2003, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
Check out LS1.com's classifieds. Stuff is cheap nowadays.

lol damn you and your technicallities :p :D

Paladin

10-22-2003, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
Give it up, Jimbo. You're arguing with someone who is confused by the phrase "stock with a cam" but has "stock and restored" in his sig. :rolleyes:

Nitpick all you want, you say I was confused, when Forrest, Jimbo and I were on the same page. No confusion on my part, in fact, I made mine and it was accepted by all, except you. Maybe you just didn't read all the posts and got in the middle of the discussion, either way you come out looking the same way. One is just a little more sad.

Boss Hogg

10-22-2003, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
Please tell me when I said I did not see both sides. :rolleyes:
Dammit, no response again. I apologize for proving you wrong all the time, 90 Notch. You just make it so damn easy.

Paladin

10-22-2003, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
Dammit, no response again. I apologize for proving you wrong all the time, 90 Notch. You just make it so damn easy.

LOL, please don't keep embarassing yourself. You never said you didn't see both sides, you just implied it. See my response above where I quote your confusion on the subject.

Now go start a thread asking for help about this. LOL

Boss Hogg

10-22-2003, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
You never said you didn't see both sides, you just implied it.
Damn, this is just too easy to prove you wrong.

Jimbo

10-22-2003, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
You said you saw both sides but ..........there ya go.
Ah, I see. I was trying to figure out if you truly did not understand or were just being picky.
Yes, is was a smartass comment, I try to meet my DFWstangs quota on those. Perhaps I need to go back and take a refresher course, though. I hope Dolomite has an opening in Clever quips 101.

edit: Sorry to join in on the hijacking. Sounds like you have an impressive car, Jeff white lx.

JEFF WHITE LX

10-23-2003, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Forrest
John's BONE STOCK '01 LS1 motor with a cam made 522hp/674tq to the wheels on a 150 dry shot.

yeah, that's a BUNCH of spray, isn't it!?!?! :eek:

Was that a Vette? If not, what did the car cost new? How about the cam? Exhaust? Any fuel upgrades? Plus, it's on the spray! It's not permanent horsepower, just temporary.

JEFF WHITE LX

10-23-2003, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by David Z28
LS1 w/ lid, cam, headers, and a 150 shot.

Funny, that's what people said to me 6 years ago.

Due to the extra weight of a Z06? :confused:

FYI, the term "bone stock" is a gray area. Everyone seems to have thier own definition.

No, extra weight over my 3,050 pound car.

Bone stock is not a gray term. It means "as it rolled off the factory floor". What's so confusing about that, other than the fact that all the sandbaggers try to change it! :rolleyes:

JEFF WHITE LX

10-23-2003, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by MaddHatter
Lemme guess... she jumped outta the car, came running to you, jumped in all wet and horny and fucked you right there too :rolleyes:

Your car may be pimp to us car guys and I'll give you props on that, but unless she's a total car nut, and there are a few of em, she wouldn't know the difference btw your mustang and a corolla... just that your cars ugly but fast :D

At least it's not ugly and slow... Yeeeaaahhhhh. :(

Boss Hogg

10-23-2003, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
No, extra weight over my 3,050 pound car.
:confused: How much do you think Z06s weigh?

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
Bone stock is not a gray term. It means "as it rolled off the factory floor".
Would it still be bone stock if you change the oil to synthetic?
What if the motor had the head gaskets replaced?
What if the original engine blew up and a replacement engine was put in?

GRAYHORSE

10-23-2003, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
:confused: How much do you think Z06s weigh?

Would it still be bone stock if you change the oil to synthetic?
What if the motor had the head gaskets replaced?
What if the original engine blew up and a replacement engine was put in?

what if you put dice on mirror?

z28ss21

10-23-2003, 12:45 PM

Paladin

10-23-2003, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
No, extra weight over my 3,050 pound car.

Bone stock is not a gray term. It means "as it rolled off the factory floor". What's so confusing about that, other than the fact that all the sandbaggers try to change it! :rolleyes:

Well Jeff, I tried to explain that in more subtle terms about bone stock but DZ28 tried to argue about it. I agree, everyone but the GM guys think bone stock is as it rolled off the showroom floor.

Who knows, maybe DZ28 started a thread and tried to explain it. I haven't been on the board alot the last couple days so I might have missed it. LOL

Cooter

10-23-2003, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by JEFF WHITE LX
Was that a Vette? If not, what did the car cost new? How about the cam? Exhaust? Any fuel upgrades? Plus, it's on the spray! It's not permanent horsepower, just temporary.

it's not a vette... he built the car... who cares what the car cost new? he bought the car for $500... he's got maybe 1/4 what you've got in your car in it, it would probably drag your ass in the 1/8 on motor, but it'll definately "temporarily" drag your ass from a stop or any roll on the bottle...

you know how cool you feel when you spend $30k to beat a $50k car? it feels a lot cooler to beat a $30k (or $50k or whatever) in an $8k car! :p

Forrest

Boss Hogg

10-23-2003, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
Who knows, maybe DZ28 started a thread and tried to explain it. I haven't been on the board alot the last couple days so I might have missed it. LOL
Since you like to argue about things I never said anyway, why not just say that I implied a new thread and write a rebuttal?

Paladin

10-23-2003, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
Since you like to argue about things I never said anyway, why not just say that I implied a new thread and write a rebuttal?

This is too much fun!

Black87Stang

10-24-2003, 07:43 PM

uhh... it's not... that's why I said the engine was bone stock except for the cam... if it didn't have a cam, I would have said the engine was bone stock... I don't see why this is so complicated for you!

forrest

LOL

So ur saying the stock motor doesn't come with a cam?

Cooter

10-24-2003, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by Black87Stang

LOL

So ur saying the stock motor doesn't come with a cam?

yea "im" saying that... :rolleyes:

Black87Stang

10-24-2003, 08:13 PM

if it didn't have a cam, I would have said the engine was bone stock...

just being technical like 90's notch

ALLENSPEED

10-24-2003, 08:53 PM

I would say SHUT UP AND RACE!

Paladin

10-24-2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Black87Stang
if it didn't have a cam, I would have said the engine was bone stock...

just being technical like 90's notch

You have such insight, I didn't have a clue that he was talking about a putting in a different cam other than the stock one. Man, thanks, until now I didn't know that.

But I had some humor, where is yours?

Boss Hogg

10-24-2003, 09:44 PM

90 Notch
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Nitpick compensates for his general weakness as a Warrior by pouncing on errors, however irrelevant to the discussion, and using them to discredit the enemy. For example, if his opponent in a sports forum conflict casually mentioned the Cubs' 4-2 victory in the 1908 World Series, Nitpick would quickly counterattack with something like, "4-2 !? Any moron knows the Cubs won the Series 4-1! Someone so ignorant about baseball history can't possibly know anything about salary caps!" Even if the minor point is conceded Nitpick will return to it whenever pressed in the main arena of battle.

Paladin

10-24-2003, 09:48 PM

Have I really gotten to you this bad? For someone who claims to be messing with me, not the other way around, you sure are trying awfully hard to make your point.

This is too much fun!

Black87Stang

10-25-2003, 01:26 AM

No no I meant the engine had no cam at all if it was stock.

It was a joke but obliously u didn't get it.

Paladin

10-25-2003, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by Black87Stang
No no I meant the engine had no cam at all if it was stock.

It was a joke but obliously u didn't get it.

Nope, but I doubt many others did.

Black87Stang

10-25-2003, 01:34 AM

It's okay I have a weird sense of humor.

Continue ur thread I'll bother u not.

turbostang

10-25-2003, 12:36 PM

OMFG- David..........You two are wearing me out..

stock, stock with a cam, stock except for a cam, showroom stock, restored-stock, LS1,LS6 blah blah blah blah............I dont know why the LS1's don't come with the damn cam already in it.. everyone changes it anyways....

Boss Hogg

10-25-2003, 01:25 PM

That's why I keep it simple and say, "I'm bone stock". That way I don't have to explain myself if I use gearhead slang instead of the Queen's English.

turbostang

10-25-2003, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
That's why I keep it simple and say, "I'm bone stock". That way I don't have to explain myself if I use gearhead slang instead of the Queen's English.

yeah.. I understand that ..some people just don't get it, do they?

hotrod66stang

10-28-2003, 11:05 AM

normally, i would just sit back and watch this but since i hate ppl that buy old mustangs and don't know what they're talking about, i feel i need to call the dipshit factor on 90 notch... 90 notch really doesn't have a grasp of what stock is. "stock with a cam" is self-explanatory....stock engine, aftermarket cam. also, your 70 mustang can't be stock AND restored....it's either stock OR restored. i own 3 vintage mustangs and i hate when people refer to their cars as "all original" or "stock" but they don't think that it matters that it has a rebuilt engine, transmission, rear-end, new seat covers, headliner, rims and paint. although it appears original it's not.....so choose one, is it stock or is it restored?

Paladin

10-28-2003, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by hotrod66stang
normally, i would just sit back and watch this but since i hate ppl that buy old mustangs and don't know what they're talking about, i feel i need to call the dipshit factor on 90 notch... 90 notch really doesn't have a grasp of what stock is. "stock with a cam" is self-explanatory....stock engine, aftermarket cam. also, your 70 mustang can't be stock AND restored....it's either stock OR restored. i own 3 vintage mustangs and i hate when people refer to their cars as "all original" or "stock" but they don't think that it matters that it has a rebuilt engine, transmission, rear-end, new seat covers, headliner, rims and paint. although it appears original it's not.....so choose one, is it stock or is it restored?

It is restored to stock. How dificult is that concept? Same engine, just rebuilt, same carb just rebuilt, same tranny just rebuilt. I was being nit-picky and jabbing the LS1 stock comments I have seen on here before. It got the point across I was trying by getting people upset when I was only making a joke. To me that is the point of the statement, making a joke and peopl who wear their feelings on their sleeves getting upset.
Maybe you should read the whole thread, I understand the concept about stock with a cam and stock except the cam. There is a running joke I have about LS1 stock that gets a few of the GM guys bothered.

Since you proclaim expertism by the mere fact of owning 3 vintage Mstangs, define the term stock.

This is too much fun. I have now dragged several people into it.

Boss Hogg

10-28-2003, 02:08 PM

When did Forrest buy a GM? :confused:

Jimbo

10-28-2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by 90 Notch
It is restored to stock.

Ah, I see. You worded that incorrectly in your sig, it was the wording that is throwing him off. It makes all the difference, you know. I am no expert though, I've only owned two 66's and two 67's.

I'm not a GM guy either. I just thought you were ignorant to the lingo and was trying to help.