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Cooter
06-22-2003, 01:43 PM
alright, I hate running because I'm fat and it kills me, and it hurts my shins...

I hate walking because it takes forever to get anywhere (though I can walk endlessly without tiring)

I don't mind riding a bike, but I don't have a good bike right now. I'm borrowing my buddies, but I think the frame is the wrong size or something because my wrists hurt when I ride it...

I enjoy swimming laps, but don't have a good place to do it.

I have been lifting weights with ~2 minute intervals between sets as I just got back in the gym, and I want to get my strength back up. but I know I gotta do something to get the heart rate up and help w/ endurance and such...

anyhow, I told myself I was gonna go do sprints on Saturday... I'd done them a couple times before, but I'd forgotten just how rough they are... especially for a fat ass like me who left to his own devices would exist on red meat and alcohol if possible.

a guy I talked with a while back said he does sprints 3-5 times a week as it gets the body into a cardio zone, but it builds fast twitch muscle at the same time... said he did ten 100yd sprints with 1min rest between each sprint.

ok, I'll start easy and do five... easy enough, right? :rolleyes: I ride up to the highschool on my bike to warm up my legs a little, get on the field and stretch out a little... here's the rundown of my "performance" LMAO!

1st "pass": felt strong the whole run, pulled hard past the "finish line"

wow, I'm winded... a minute comes up FAST when you're heaving down air like you've been holding your breath for 10 minutes!

2nd "pass": strong out of the hole... about half track I feel the valves floating a little... I'm pushing, but my legs aren't moving quite as fast as I'm telling them to! (god I'm out of shape) at 75yds, I "dig deep" and pick up some speed and push hard to 100

ok, my lungs are burning, chest is HEAVING and the the world is rotating slightly in the wrong direction. I cheated and rested longer than a minute... hey, there were people watching, I didn't want to fall over and embarass myself! LOL!

3rd "pass": similar to the 2nd (which I attribute to the extra rest... otherwise it woulda been UGLY!) but slowed down slightly... if you were to zoom in on my face, I'm sure it looked like I was trying to shit a basketball

a little more dizzy and numb, quads are nearing jello-like consistancy, and I'm thinkin' "ok, I really need some gatoraide and an oxygen mask"

because my bicycle was on the other side and other end of the football field, and I felt like I was moving ever closer to passing out, I decided that a 5th pass would be rediculous, so I decided to run across the field diagonally.

4th "pass": the casual observer would probably say, "hmm, why is that guy jogging across the field like that?". dug deep and told myself, "you're gonna run the last half of this distance like your life depended on it". I'm not sure that my life would have been spared, but I gave it my all damnit!!

I actually sat down for a minute after that one... swinging the piece of jello I once called my left leg over the bicycle was a fun little dance. luckily the ride home was pretty much downhill. I remember thinking, "I sure hope I don't have to perform any emergency/evasive manuvers on the ride home or I'm toast"

pedaling in slow motion and fighting impeding blindness and deafness I made my way home, got inside, knocked down a tall glass of Gatoraide and then nursed a half gal of water as I felt my blood sugar level balance back out and the headache that was threatening to develop subside...

then I passed clean the fuck out for 2 hrs! LOL! to my credit I didn't get much sleep the night before.

damn that was fun, can't wait to go punish myself again! :D

I want to start doing that at least 3 times a week and start cutting the rest time between sets when I'm lifting.

heck, I didn't even drink any vodka last night... had two beers and even turned down free taco bell tacos (one of my favorite sins)

Forrest

ShawnQ
06-22-2003, 01:58 PM
Forrest,

I feel your pain bro! I've recently gone from being a welder (hot days, standing all day, lifting a lot, etc..) to being an estimator(same company, just got pushed inside finally!). Anyways, now I've got an office job and I can sure tell the difference, even after just a week! I've been on my ass all day, all this week, and yesterday we played some beach volleyball at an annual company picnic, it kicked my ass!

I think I'm going to start running again...or else my ass wont fit in my stang(s) anymore!

Take care!
(BTW, you'd be glad to know I'm getting back into the turbo scene now that my 91 is running/driving. let me know if you know of any twins for sale. Also, I may PM you later about the title for this 91 I have..)

Shawn

Strychnine
06-22-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Forrest
if you were to zoom in on my face, I'm sure it looked like I was trying to shit a basketball
LMMFAO! :D

I know the feeling man. I just got back into lifting after a while off. My freshman year was quite busy, so i turned into a lazy bastard and didnt work out much. Now i'm making myself get back in shape.
On one hand, I keep telling myself to go run, but ont he other, i think to myself, "Man, screw running. I get enough of a workout at work every day. Fuck this. I'll just go lift."

Dammit, I need some motivation.


-Matt

Cooter
06-22-2003, 03:11 PM
Matt,

I hate running or any kind of "sustained" cardio type exercise...

I prefer something a little more violent...

you should get out there and try some sprints just for the hell of it... works a lot of leg muscles you might not hit as well while lifting, builds muscle and helps endurance, etc.

I'm already looking forward to my next day of torture! :D

Forrest

AL P
06-23-2003, 10:38 AM
Damn Forrest, you should try running at a sane pace! I know, I know, you always say you can't do it. But when you get to the point where you can do a couple of miles it isn't bad. Then when you go and sprint you can be a bad ass...

I'm trying to get my speed on up there but man it is fuggin tough!! Fastest I have gone on the old treadmill was 7.9 mph for a couple of minutes. Maybe I need to do some sprints, i don't know. I know my lung capacity is getting way up there.

Cooter
06-23-2003, 11:14 AM
tell ya what Alan, I'm gonna do these sprints a few days a week for a while and if I don't see my endurance going up, I'll... gulp... run... :eek:

Forrest

AL P
06-23-2003, 11:20 AM
All you need to do is get on the treadmill at 5.5 mph for about 5 minutes to start off. The pain in your shins will go away, its just muscle pain. Mine never even hurt anymore. Hurt like a bitch at first though!!

Cooter
06-23-2003, 12:34 PM
the thing I'm trippin' on is how many different muscles I'm feeling that I didn't realize were used in sprints...

I went and sprinted again yesterday... my friggin' obliques hurt more today than after any ab workout I can remember!! :confused:

that's not to say I don't suck at ab workouts, just saying that even if I do get on the treadmill and run, I'm keeping the sprints in the regime!!

Forrest

AL P
06-23-2003, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Forrest
the thing I'm trippin' on is how many different muscles I'm feeling that I didn't realize were used in sprints...

I went and sprinted again yesterday... my friggin' obliques hurt more today than after any ab workout I can remember!! :confused:

that's not to say I don't suck at ab workouts, just saying that even if I do get on the treadmill and run, I'm keeping the sprints in the regime!!

Forrest

That is a good idea to keep them in there! If you want to run on the treadmill, try intervals....1/4 mile at some lackluster pace, say 5.5 mph then a 1/4 mile at a nice higher speed, like 7.5 mph, then another 1/4 at 5.5, just keep repeating. You will get to where you can run at that faster pace pretty quick!

cool cat
06-23-2003, 12:48 PM
Forrest, I think you may be starting a new trend. I mix in a sprint to end a jog every so often. Nothing kicks my ass more, than a good sprint.

There may be need for a new fastest list, on foot, or the lowest total of 1/4 time mile on foot and in car.

Cooter
06-23-2003, 12:48 PM
will do!

er... probably... maybe...

tex
06-23-2003, 03:44 PM
Forrest, lemme tweak your routine a little. Even world class sprinters don't run full speed for 5-10 100 meters in a work out. Next time you go out there, make sure you're warm and very well stretched, then start your first 100. Only take it about 75% speed, making sure your stride is full. Walk the turn, then run the back stretch. If you get 10 sprints in without getting worn out, I'd be surprised. As you get stronger, and it gets easier, move up to 200, walk a 100, 200... etc. Sprinting will help you get into shape, but won't ever give you great endurance. After you get all the power and muscle stamina back in your legs, you're gonna have to add something else to continue to improve. You can get to the point where you can 400/100s all day, but would still benefit from a long run routine.

And cool cat, when we gonna run a 400? :)

cool cat
06-23-2003, 03:56 PM
Something tells me in you shape TEX, more than I am. I race you but I don't want to drive far to get an ass whoopin.

tex
06-23-2003, 03:58 PM
I'm in horrible shape right now, but for a challenge I could get into good enough shape to run a 55 or so. I'm willing to bet that not many people on this board could break a minute in the 400.

01WhiteCobra
06-23-2003, 04:01 PM
Forrest, here is a little twist to your regime. Anytime I'm 400m or less on my speed training (highly unlikely), I pick a time which is sprint + recovery. Lets say for you, its 1 minute 15 seconds per 100 yards.

Run your 100 yards, whatever time is left over in that 1 minute 15 seconds is your rest period.

Over the weeks/months, bring the 1 minute 15 seconds down, trying to maintain that interval throughout your sprints.

Ol' swimming training.

tex
06-23-2003, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by 01WhiteCobra
Forrest, here is a little twist to your regime. Anytime I'm 400m or less on my speed training (highly unlikely), I pick a time which is sprint + recovery. Lets say for you, its 1 minute 15 seconds per 100 yards.

Run your 100 yards, whatever time is left over in that 1 minute 15 seconds is your rest period.

Over the weeks/months, bring the 1 minute 15 seconds down, trying to maintain that interval throughout your sprints.

Ol' swimming training.

That timing is about what the on/off 100s would be, depending on how quickly you walk. The better shape you get into, the quicker you make that walk, the lower the interval.

michelle95gt
06-23-2003, 04:35 PM
you go Forrest!

funniest thing is seeing Forrest at the gym last week, wearing his flip flops...... :)

Frogger
06-23-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by michelle95gt
funniest thing is seeing Forrest at the gym last week, wearing his flip flops...... :)


LOL Are you serious, Michelle? He even wears his flops at the gym? :eek:

Way to work and push yourself Forrest. Doesnt the pain feel sooooo good? :p

Cooter
06-23-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by michelle95gt
you go Forrest!

funniest thing is seeing Forrest at the gym last week, wearing his flip flops...... :)

shit, back when it was Gold's, I wore them all the time up there, but they cracked down on me pretty hard. Only reason I wore them was becasue I saw some dude up there the other day w/ them on. I had my sneaks in the car just in case.

hell, I remember a time when they wouldn't let me wear cut-off khakis... I asked why, and they were like, "no cut-offs because the rivets damage the seats and benches"

I'm like "there are no rivets on these!!!"

they've calmed down a little though.


Frogger,

yes, so very good... :D