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Mr Evil
06-22-2003, 10:12 AM
Today markes my 5th day on Atkins. I have managed to stay within 20 grams of carbs / day or less.

Jac cooks cupcakes and eats ice cream in front of me. I want to keel her.

Maybe 1 cupcake won't hurt. Oh, nm. If eat it, I'll have to eat the other 8 in the box too. And a nice big glass of milk would be nice.

I better eat some cheese. Cheese is good. But no sugar.

On the other hand, cottage cheese, some Splenda, and some Cinnamon sure does taste like a sweet treat.

Down 4 pounds so far. Must keep at it. 9 days countdown till carb count gets boosted by 10 / day.

White_lightning
06-22-2003, 01:30 PM
lucky bish.. it took me 5 days just to hit ketosis:( my wife was in ketosis day 2 !!

Mr Evil
06-22-2003, 01:35 PM
It took 3 days for me to hit Ketosis.

I have a procedure to be DEEP in ketosis by the 3rd day.
Day 1 and 2 - 1 hour cardio in morn in fat loss zone and 1 hour cardio at nite in fat loss zone
Day 3 - 1 hour of cardio in the morn
By the time I get home from the gym to take a piss, Im hitting 40 plus on the ketosis strips.

hmm. Need to go check now and see where Im at today.

lilgeezy
06-22-2003, 02:19 PM
<-- gonna risk sounding like an idiot, but i gotta ask -

whats ketosis?

Mr Evil
06-22-2003, 02:24 PM
The bold'd section is definition of Ketosis.

Taken from http://www.ketosis-ketoacidosis-difference.com - Lindora, Inc (clinical weight loss company thats been in biz for 30 years)

Ketosis: Is it safe? Why do some people say it's dangerous?

On July 7, 2002, the New York Times published "What if It's All Been a Big Fat Lie?" written by Gary Taubes.

I quote the article: " 'Doctors are scared of ketosis,' says Richard Veech, an N.I.H. [National Institutes of Health]researcher who studied medicine at Harvard and then got his doctorate at Oxford University with the Nobel Laureate Hans Krebs. ''They're always worried about diabetic ketoacidosis. But ketosis is a normal physiologic state."

"Simply put, ketosis is evolution's answer to the thrifty gene. We may have evolved to efficiently store fat for times of famine, says Veech, but we also evolved ketosis to efficiently live off that fat when necessary. Rather than being poison, which is how the press often refers to ketones, they make the body run more efficiently and provide a backup fuel source for the brain. Veech calls ketones ''magic'' and has shown that both the heart and brain run 25 percent more efficiently on ketones than on blood sugar." You can read the full article at www.nyt.com.


Being in ketosis means your body has burned a large amount of fat in response to the fact that it didn't have sufficient glucose available for energy needs. Under everyday conditions, the carbohydrates you eat are converted to glucose, which is the body's primary source of energy. Whenever your intake of carbohydrates is limited to a certain range, for a long enough period of time, you'll reach a point where your body draws on its alternate energy system, fat stores, for fuel.

This condition called dietary ketosis, means your body burns fat and turns it into a source of fuel called ketones. Ketones are produced whenever body fat is burned. When you burn a larger amount of fat than is immediately needed for energy, the excess ketones are discarded in the urine.


Dietary ketosis is among the most maligned and misunderstood concepts in nutrition because it is often confused with ketoacidosis, which is a life-threatening condition most often associated with uncontrolled insulin-deficient Type 1 diabetes. In the Type 1 diabetic, the absence of insulin leads to a toxic build-up of blood glucose and an extreme break-down of fat and muscle tissue. This condition doesn't occur in individuals who have even a small amount of insulin, whether from natural production or artificially administered.

Dietary ketosis, however, is a natural adjustment to the body's reduced intake of carbohydrates as the body shifts its primary source of energy from carbohydrates to stored fat. The presence of insulin keeps ketone production in check so that a mild, beneficial ketosis is achieved. Blood glucose levels are stabilized within a normal range and there is no break-down of healthy muscle tissue.

The most sensitive tests of ketosis ("NMR" and "blood ketone level") show that everyone is in some degree of ketosis every day, particularly after not eating overnight and after exercising. Ketosis is the body's survival system. It is not an abnormality nor does it present any medical danger, except to a Type I insulin-dependent diabetic. The body functions naturally and effectively while in a state of dietary ketosis.

Some of the benefits many people experience while in a state of dietary ketosis for intentional weight loss may include rapid weight loss, decreased hunger and cravings, improved mood, increased energy and, as long as protein intake is adequate, protection of lean muscle mass.

The attachment is where Im at today. Probably around 50 Ketones / millions or someshit.

Cooter
06-22-2003, 02:28 PM
Feldman,

from what I gleaned off of Elite Fitness, the best way to shock your body into ketosis is to start out the first few days with most of your calories (like 70%+!) from fats... the body will convert some proteins to carbs and burn them like carbs...

flax seed oil is your friend! (it also keeps the pipes lubed so you don't get all bound up)

once you're IN ketosis and the body is in a fat burning mode, you can move back over to a higher protein percentage.

Forrest

yonson
06-23-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by Forrest
Feldman,

from what I gleaned off of Elite Fitness, the best way to shock your body into ketosis is to start out the first few days with most of your calories (like 70%+!) from fats... the body will convert some proteins to carbs and burn them like carbs...

flax seed oil is your friend! (it also keeps the pipes lubed so you don't get all bound up)

once you're IN ketosis and the body is in a fat burning mode, you can move back over to a higher protein percentage.

Forrest

I've been doing some reading and haven't really found what I'm looking for. What kind of dosages of flax seed oil are you supposed to take, and is it going to be in pill, or liquid form??? I've never used any supplements or anything like that while dieting. I lost 45#'s on atkins a year and a half ago, but I have gained about 20#'s of it back and am wanting to get down to the 180's, currently at 225, been back on atkins for about 5 days now and have lost 5 lbs.

Delerium
06-24-2003, 11:22 AM
wowzers, pissing out all that fat must burn like a bleatch!

The Big Matt
06-24-2003, 11:42 AM
i don't piss it out...

I CRAP IT OUT..

6 to 10 craps a day...

WHOOO

Good job Shane, I'm down 7 pounds for the week. And now with my new plan, I hope to really cut in the next few weeks, I've got 5 weeks before my 7 days in Puerto Vallarta. Daddy would like to make the little chicas call him Poppi....

If you need a sweet treat, go to GNC and pickup some of the Atkins Advantage bars, dude the SMORES and even the Peanut Butter/Chocolate are damn good, and they kill that sweet tooth.

01WhiteCobra
06-25-2003, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Mr Evil
It took 3 days for me to hit Ketosis.

I have a procedure to be DEEP in ketosis by the 3rd day.
Day 1 and 2 - 1 hour cardio in morn in fat loss zone and 1 hour cardio at nite in fat loss zone
Day 3 - 1 hour of cardio in the morn
By the time I get home from the gym to take a piss, Im hitting 40 plus on the ketosis strips.

hmm. Need to go check now and see where Im at today.

Interesting. Here is a little running knowledge to support your ketosis inducing theory...

Marathon runners (conditioned ones) will talk about the "wall" at 20 miles. It is the time when everything goes "thunk!". You legs automatically grow 20 lbs heavier, it takes effort to control your breathing, your shoulders start to curl over. And you start to stink of ammonia.

For the longest time, it was thought that this was because, in training, most marathon runners would do long runs of 20-22 miles. Thus, you were entering "no man's land".

Then sometime in the 90s some PhD candidate writing his paper studied the amount the glucose available in your system and how long it took to run out. About 2 hours. About that same amount of time it takes for a conditioned marathon runner to reach 20 miles.

You enter into a state of ketosis, where you have no glycogen left in your muscles, you hit the "wall".

In your case, I'm sure you are intaking some protein during days one and two, since protein can be converted into glucose at about 50-60% and carbs at 100%, you are loading your muscles with some glycogen, during days 1 and 2. By day three, that percentage is so low, you stay in the constant state of ketosis.

Nothing of consequence, other than to say, your method is based on some solid scientific fact, even if you didn't know it. :D

Monsoon X
06-25-2003, 02:47 PM
You folks are crazy and your breath stinks too!

White_lightning
06-25-2003, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Monsoon X
You folks are crazy and your breath stinks too!
*SLAP*!!1
its not our fault we have to WORK to be lean!! if i could eat williams chicken all day and LOSE fat i would!!:)

Monsoon X
06-25-2003, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by White_lightning
[Bif i could eat williams chicken all day and LOSE fat i would!!:) [/B]

But I thought you could on the Atkins diet?!

White_lightning
06-25-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Monsoon X
But I thought you could on the Atkins diet?!

you CANTeat williams chicken with out the skin.. thats just immoral!!! .. i wonder if they can do it Unbreaded:).. hmmmm
thats a good idea!

Monsoon X
06-25-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by White_lightning
you CANTeat williams chicken with out the skin.. thats just immoral!!! .. i wonder if they can do it Unbreaded:).. hmmmm
thats a good idea!

I cheated last night. Coming back from MMT around 8:30pm I stopped and got me some 2pc Dark and a bisquit from Church's Fried Chicken in Garland! whoohoo was it good!

White_lightning
06-25-2003, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by Monsoon X
I cheated last night. Coming back from MMT around 8:30pm I stopped and got me some 2pc Dark and a bisquit from Church's Fried Chicken in Garland! whoohoo was it good!

damn!!.. have you ever had Crispys chicken off Arknsas road in arlington? its THE SHIT!!!

AnesthesiA
06-25-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Monsoon X
I cheated last night. Coming back from MMT around 8:30pm I stopped and got me some 2pc Dark and a bisquit from Church's Fried Chicken in Garland! whoohoo was it good!
We knew you were racist.;)

Monsoon X
06-25-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by AnesthesiA
We knew you were racist.;)

Although I have tried white meat, I find it too dry. ;)

White_lightning
06-25-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Monsoon X
Although I have tried white meat, I find it too dry. ;)
im a breast man:)

Mr Evil
06-25-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by 01WhiteCobra

Nothing of consequence, other than to say, your method is based on some solid scientific fact, even if you didn't know it. :D


While I didn't know about the study, I was aware that on the 3rd day, I should have depleted the glycogen in my body. But I read about it from some other bodybuilding/dieting guru's.