Calling out JS12! [Archive] - DFWstangs Forums

Andrew

06-09-2003, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Cmarsh93z
Im sure we could find a track to let us make a pass. If not, im not scared to run on GB Speedway from a stop, some late night. Yellowbelly is an option too. If Andrew is gonna pick on a slower Ls1, then I should be able to pick on a slower car...right? :cool:

Chris
AMS ProCycles

I'm not interested in yellowbelly, and I'd rather run at the track.

If Redline will allow it, I'm up for it.

Andrew

06-09-2003, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Dude, shut the hell up!! You have alot more to worry about than JS12. You need to consentrate on getting your car tuned out, because your girly 6.16 asn't going to cut it!!

If you think that a 6.16 is all the car has in it in this state of tune, you've got another thing coming.

I went WOT for 1/2 second on the launch, and 1 second through the traps.

For the other 4.5 seconds, I was around 1/2 throttle (as you saw in the datalog - average throttle angle was about 50 degrees) and I was in part throttle operation - 18 degrees timing vs 25 degrees timing. I'm sure I'm down a good 150 rwhp if not more for the time when I'm not WOT.

2tonecpe

06-09-2003, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
I'm not interested in yellowbelly, and I'd rather run at the track.

If Redline will allow it, I'm up for it.

REdline will let bikes run cars, especially if you tell them it is for money or for bragging rights. They let a El camino whoop up on a bike this past Fri night. Oh yea it was a big block w/ 2 /stages.

Cmarsh93z

06-09-2003, 05:24 PM

Cool...we'll do it at Redline then, if they allow it. BTW..Im all stock motor, so you shouldn't have anything to worry about ;)

Chris

Andrew

06-09-2003, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by Cmarsh93z
Cool...we'll do it at Redline then, if they allow it. BTW..Im all stock motor, so you shouldn't have anything to worry about ;)

Chris

suuuuure.......

;)

Sounds good.

StangTamer

06-09-2003, 08:05 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
If you think that a 6.16 is all the car has in it in this state of tune, you've got another thing coming.

I went WOT for 1/2 second on the launch, and 1 second through the traps.

For the other 4.5 seconds, I was around 1/2 throttle (as you saw in the datalog - average throttle angle was about 50 degrees) and I was in part throttle operation - 18 degrees timing vs 25 degrees timing. I'm sure I'm down a good 150 rwhp if not more for the time when I'm not WOT.

Look I understand that the Datalog says that you were half throttle at times. But I am not falling for it. You can't tell me that your foot came off of the gas. I can see that maybe your tune is screwed up and it is pulling to much timing, but I saw you race your car and I didn't hear any distinctive sounds of your motor dropping rpms or see the nose dropping any. It is something with the tune not your foot right? I am sure that your car has more in it, but don't act like you are letting in and out of the gas down the track. I know you're not that big of a pussy. The 5-speed was a hell of alot harder to drive than that 2-speed powerglide. Oh, and don't give me no shit about the transbrake. You were making 6000rpm launches with the 5-speed.

2tonecpe

06-09-2003, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Cmarsh93z
Cool...we'll do it at Redline then, if they allow it. BTW..Im all stock motor, so you shouldn't have anything to worry about ;)

Chris

If you let me know when ya'll are going I will try to make it out there, I can arrange this race. I got the hook up. I'll tyr and find you. Think back to the old astro days and white swan and try to remember a white lx with a c4 and pizza cutters on the front and you'll remember me, and I came to your house with the guy that bought your silver coupe.

Andrew

06-10-2003, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Look I understand that the Datalog says that you were half throttle at times. But I am not falling for it. You can't tell me that your foot came off of the gas. I can see that maybe your tune is screwed up and it is pulling to much timing, but I saw you race your car and I didn't hear any distinctive sounds of your motor dropping rpms or see the nose dropping any. It is something with the tune not your foot right? I am sure that your car has more in it, but don't act like you are letting in and out of the gas down the track. I know you're not that big of a pussy. The 5-speed was a hell of alot harder to drive than that 2-speed powerglide. Oh, and don't give me no shit about the transbrake. You were making 6000rpm launches with the 5-speed.

You obviously don't understand simple physics. As my foot gets closer to the floor, the throttle opens more and more. Understand? Now when I go over a certain throttle angle, I go to wide open throttle mode. When I'm under a certain throttle angle, I go to part throttle mode. The tunes for these modes are different.

You saw the datalogs. I was in and out of the gas down the track. The car was loose going down the track and I gave it as much gas as I was comfortable with. A loose converter will do wonders in covering that up in terms of sound.

Oh, and another thing: When did I say anything about the transbrake?

STFU, ShitTamer! I will rule you BOY!!!!!

dragradialstang

06-10-2003, 10:03 AM

Sounds like stangtamer's car is running.yea! right!

Big Thumper

06-10-2003, 10:14 AM

There we go...JS12 vs DRS. They run around the same, although one does it ala all motor.

That would make a good race to watch. Anyone?

Andrew

06-10-2003, 10:48 AM

StangTamer sent me this pic:

OoooOoOoOOOoo... scary! :rolleyes:

I hate to tell you chad, but you're gonna have a hard time keeping headgaskets on that thing if you don't use more head studs!

Cmarsh93z

06-10-2003, 10:51 AM

BOOMTAMER!

StangTamer

06-10-2003, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
You obviously don't understand simple physics. As my foot gets closer to the floor, the throttle opens more and more. Understand? Now when I go over a certain throttle angle, I go to wide open throttle mode. When I'm under a certain throttle angle, I go to part throttle mode. The tunes for these modes are different.

You saw the datalogs. I was in and out of the gas down the track. The car was loose going down the track and I gave it as much gas as I was comfortable with. A loose converter will do wonders in covering that up in terms of sound.

Oh, and another thing: When did I say anything about the transbrake?

STFU, ShitTamer! I will rule you BOY!!!!!

Like I said. Half throttle my ass!! You can't tell me that when you went on Pro mod night it wasn't hooking and I know you aren't a pussy. I know you held that thing to the floor the whole way and ran a 6.19. I don't care how much converter you have you will notice someone feathering the pedal. So quit lying or prove me wrong. Oh yeah, I know your car has more in it, but I am saying it is not your foot it's your tune.

StangTamer

06-10-2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
StangTamer sent me this pic:

OoooOoOoOOOoo... scary! :rolleyes:

I hate to tell you chad, but you're gonna have a hard time keeping headgaskets on that thing if you don't use more head studs!

Hardy har. Boy you know I just put a couple of bolts in the heads to keep trash from getting in the motor. I just have to get the right studs before I can do much more.

90GT50

06-10-2003, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Like I said. Half throttle my ass!! You can't tell me that when you went on Pro mod night it wasn't hooking and I know you aren't a pussy. I know you held that thing to the floor the whole way and ran a 6.19. I don't care how much converter you have you will notice someone feathering the pedal. So quit lying or prove me wrong. Oh yeah, I know your car has more in it, but I am saying it is not your foot it's your tune. thats funny, because almost every car there that night was spinning bad.

Andrew

06-10-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
So quit lying or prove me wrong.

Ok, look at the datalog. It doesn't lie.

JS12

06-10-2003, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Big Thumper
There we go...JS12 vs DRS. They run around the same, although one does it ala all motor.

That would make a good race to watch. Anyone?

he doesnt want any of this. hes skurd

dragradialstang

06-10-2003, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by JS12
he doesnt want any of this. hes skurd Phsft! LOL @ Jaimie!:rolleyes:

bsharer

06-11-2003, 12:40 AM

I hope Stangtamer is caught up on his Tetnis shot!

Did you accidentally catch that car when you were fishing for Carp at the Trinity??

SVTVenom

06-11-2003, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by bsharer
I hope Stangtamer is caught up on his Tetnis shot!

Did you accidentally catch that car when you were fishing for Carp at the Trinity??

LOL!!! That was mean dude!!!

StangTamer

06-11-2003, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by bsharer
I hope Stangtamer is caught up on his Tetnis shot!

Did you accidentally catch that car when you were fishing for Carp at the Trinity??

We'll see who's fishing.

302_plus_a_few

06-11-2003, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
We'll see who's fisting. WTF???? :eek:

Big Thumper

06-11-2003, 09:49 PM

What kind of times are you seriously shooting for with this ride?? Looks to be a mid 8 capable combo to me, but I know nothing about that old school carb/fogger stuff.

StangTamer

06-11-2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Big Thumper
What kind of times are you seriously shooting for with this ride?? Looks to be a mid 8 capable combo to me, but I know nothing about that old school carb/fogger stuff.

The "goal" is high 8's low 9's(@3000lbs & bumping the compression another point, maybe cam and/or converter pending on how it like the n2o). I think the way it is setup right now (3400lbs, 11.5:1 comp.) it "should" go low 10's on motor and mid 9's on bottle. That is what the engine builder told me what I could expect anyway. I'm just going by someone who builds Pontiacs for a living. For all I know I could get out there and run 11's on motor.:( We'll see.

OvrKill

06-12-2003, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by 302_plus_a_few
WTF???? :eek:

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/tshirt.php?sku=a208 :D

Andrew

06-13-2003, 02:30 PM

ttt

SNEAKY

06-13-2003, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
ttt
i think he is pretty smart:D
i mean look, he can keep you going and spending all of your money for a couple years now.

StangTamer

06-13-2003, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
ttt

Alright, I admit I was wrong. I had no idea that if you let halfway off of the gas on a boosted car it would still pull and sound the same. I've never owned a car with boost, so this is new to me. On my car when I had to feather the gas the front end would drop and so would the rpms. It was very noticable. Post up a video of that second pass from behind the car and if you can hear or see anything that looks like you let out, then I guess I am blind or deaf.

JamesB

06-13-2003, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Alright, I admit I was wrong. I had no idea that if you let halfway off of the gas on a boosted car it would still pull and sound the same. I've never owned a car with boost, so this is new to me. On my car when I had to feather the gas the front end would drop and so would the rpms. It was very noticable. Post up a video of that second pass from behind the car and if you can hear or see anything that looks like you let out, then I guess I am blind or deaf.

Feather the throttle, LOL that's a good one.

StangTamer

06-13-2003, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by JamesB
Feather the throttle, LOL that's a good one.

:confused:

Andrew

06-13-2003, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by JamesB
Feather the throttle, LOL that's a good one.

Yeah, how do you feather the throttle when you're using bailing wire as an accelerator pedal?

StangTamer

06-14-2003, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by Andrew
Yeah, how do you feather the throttle when you're using bailing wire as an accelerator pedal?

:rolleyes: The same way I'm going to be feathering the pedal when I bust your ass, Boy!!

Andrew

06-14-2003, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by StangTamer
:rolleyes: The same way I'm going to be feathering the pedal when I bust your ass, Boy!!

You've got a vivid imagination. It's not going to happen, BOY! Your car is slow. It's always been slow. And it'll always be slower than mine!

StangTamer

06-14-2003, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Andrew
You've got a vivid imagination. It's not going to happen, BOY! Your car is slow. It's always been slow. And it'll always be slower than mine!

You keep telling yourself that. You'll get to find out the hard way how wrong you are.

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 03:01 PM

StangTamer- I've got a buddy of mine who's got a '94 Cobra with a 347 in it. He's gone 11.4 @118 on motor untuned..and, he's fixing to put a NX 150 shot on it, and get some tuning. Andrew talked to him at Denton last weekend, so he should know who I'm talking about. BTW-he ran the 11.4 shifting like a bitch...the car's got alot more in it..I'd say it's capable of 11.1's N/A. Then you drop the 150 shot on it..and have what? 10.3-4's? (In a Cobra, so ya got the pimp factor goin' on..and all he's gotta do is hook the sway bar and tighten up the tokico's and he can tackle the twisties right along side of the best of 'em!) Anyways-he's always up for a good race..so if you ever get that heap running, his cobra will be waiting to strike!

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 03:03 PM

Oh, and just to add a little fuel to the fire..this same car took RAGEman at the street races (11.1@124 cam only z28), and also pulled him on the highway...just to show what kinda potential the car has in it

StangTamer

06-15-2003, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by FordGuy302
StangTamer- I've got a buddy of mine who's got a '94 Cobra with a 347 in it. He's gone 11.4 @118 on motor untuned..and, he's fixing to put a NX 150 shot on it, and get some tuning. Andrew talked to him at Denton last weekend, so he should know who I'm talking about. BTW-he ran the 11.4 shifting like a bitch...the car's got alot more in it..I'd say it's capable of 11.1's N/A. Then you drop the 150 shot on it..and have what? 10.3-4's? (In a Cobra, so ya got the pimp factor goin' on..and all he's gotta do is hook the sway bar and tighten up the tokico's and he can tackle the twisties right along side of the best of 'em!) Anyways-he's always up for a good race..so if you ever get that heap running, his cobra will be waiting to strike!

Sounds like he will be a pretty good race, with him on n2o and me on motor. Maybe we'll set something up in the near future.

Andrew

06-15-2003, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
You keep telling yourself that. You'll get to find out the hard way how wrong you are.

Take the pills out of your fogger and let's see how fast you really are!

StangTamer

06-15-2003, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
Take the pills out of your fogger and let's see how fast you really are!

Hell, I'd probably be able to handle up on you with a Sneaky Pete.

Andrew

06-15-2003, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Hell, I'd probably be able to handle up on you with a Sneaky Pete.

OK, put a sneaky pete setup on your car and let's race. You said it, now back up your mouth, BOY!!!

StangTamer

06-15-2003, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
OK, put a sneaky pete setup on your car and let's race. You said it, now back up your mouth, BOY!!!

No, I'm going to bust your ass with the Pro Shot Fogger!! No mercy, BOY!!

Andrew

06-15-2003, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
No, I'm going to bust your ass with the Pro Shot Fogger!! No mercy, BOY!!

You said it, backpeddler. Put the sneaky pete on your car and let's line them up.

StangTamer

06-15-2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
You said it, backpeddler. Put the sneaky pete on your car and let's line them up.

You just want me to put a Sneaky Pete on my car so you will only lose by a car or two. I'm sorry I'm not going to let you get out of the ass whooping that easy.

Andrew

06-15-2003, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
You just want me to put a Sneaky Pete on my car so you will only lose by a car or two. I'm sorry I'm not going to let you get out of the ass whooping that easy.

Look at you crawfishing back to your rustbucket. I knew you weren't a BOY of your word.

StangTamer

06-15-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
Look at you crawfishing back to your rustbucket. I knew you weren't a BOY of your word.

Yeah ok. You set me up with a Sneaky Pete and I will race you with it. Sound fair enough?

Andrew

06-15-2003, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Yeah ok. You set me up with a Sneaky Pete and I will race you with it. Sound fair enough?

LMAO! Whatever dude. Just like I'll say that I'll race you with a 91.5 mm thumper if you set me up with it.

Get your own damn parts, bitch!

StangTamer

06-15-2003, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
LMAO! Whatever dude. Just like I'll say that I'll race you with a 91.5 mm thumper if you set me up with it.

Get your own damn parts, bitch!

Your the one that wants me to handicap my car with a Sneaky Pete. Why should I go out and buy one? You can flip the bill, BOY!! Hell I don't care if you get someone to let me borrow theirs. I'm only going to need it once.

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 08:12 PM

How's he wanting you to handicap your car?! Didn't you first say you could take his shit with a sneaky pete set-up? All he's saying..is "if you have so much faith in what you said, then be a man and back it the fuck up!" Now-you flip it around on him, and say " i wouldn't run a sneaky pete kit on my car, cause I want to beat you by the full 300 lenghts my car is capable of beating yours by" Bitch please..if you're gonna open your mouth, and talk yo' shit, then stick to it, don't go backpeddling like a little bitch, it's a well known fact that Andrew's car will run a 1-man train on dat poncho piece of shit of yours

Big Thumper

06-15-2003, 08:25 PM

I'd let you borrow my fogger if I had one. If I come across one, I'll lend it to you.....with one condition. I get to keep all 8 of your burned down pistons:)

StangTamer

06-15-2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by FordGuy302
How's he wanting you to handicap your car?! Didn't you first say you could take his shit with a sneaky pete set-up? All he's saying..is "if you have so much faith in what you said, then be a man and back it the fuck up!" Now-you flip it around on him, and say " i wouldn't run a sneaky pete kit on my car, cause I want to beat you by the full 300 lenghts my car is capable of beating yours by" Bitch please..if you're gonna open your mouth, and talk yo' shit, then stick to it, don't go backpeddling like a little bitch, it's a well known fact that Andrew's car will run a 1-man train on dat poncho piece of shit of yours

Yeah, and I told him I would run him with a Sneaky Pete if he supplies it, Numbnuts. Why should I go out and buy one when I have a Pro Shot Fogger and a Cheater system?:confused: I have no need for a Sneaky Pete. If he wants to run me with a Sneaky Pete bad enough he can go buy/borrow one for me and "I WILL RACE HIM WITH IT!!"

Dupont24

06-15-2003, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by FordGuy302
How's he wanting you to handicap your car?! Didn't you first say you could take his shit with a sneaky pete set-up? All he's saying..is "if you have so much faith in what you said, then be a man and back it the fuck up!" Now-you flip it around on him, and say " i wouldn't run a sneaky pete kit on my car, cause I want to beat you by the full 300 lenghts my car is capable of beating yours by" Bitch please..if you're gonna open your mouth, and talk yo' shit, then stick to it, don't go backpeddling like a little bitch, it's a well known fact that Andrew's car will run a 1-man train on dat poncho piece of shit of yours
What a jackass....like he is going to go out and buy parts for one race then get rid of it. There are some serious morons on this site.

SNEAKY

06-15-2003, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Dupont24
What a jackass....like he is going to go out and buy parts for one race then get rid of it. There are some serious morons on this site.
YOU TALK ALOT OF SMACK FOR A PAN.

Dupont24

06-15-2003, 09:21 PM

So what's your point. Are you racing? if not then shut up

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 09:23 PM

He talks alot of shit for an LT1 owner :rolleyes:

Dupont24

06-15-2003, 09:31 PM

and how slow is your pusstang??

SNEAKY

06-15-2003, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by Dupont24
So what's your point. Are you racing? if not then shut up my point is you come into our sandbox talking smack to people you do not even know. if you want to run, i am sure it can be aranged sometime.

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 09:47 PM

Dupont24

06-15-2003, 09:49 PM

My point is the idiot telling him to go and buy a sneaky pete to race that guy. C'mon....that makes no sense. I'm going to go out and buy something I don't want or need just to pasify someone? Mustngs vs. Camaro is cool, but you are smart enough to see how dumb that is.

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Dupont24
and how slow is your pusstang??

that time is in my sig. Time was run on 17" nitto's with 800 miles on the motor and NO tune. Not to mention the car was set-up for road racing, and the car didn't make power until 4k. ( was built for top-end/highway racing) and the fact i had 3.55's in the rear. Not to mention, I had a HUGE stereo in the car, and note the 1.76 60'. Hell..my stock motor that turned 13.9@98 on Nitto's was on a 1.89 60'

AL P

06-15-2003, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Dupont24
and how slow is your pusstang??

Damn, Dupont is running this mother fucker now!!!

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Dupont24
My point is the idiot telling him to go and buy a sneaky pete to race that guy. C'mon....that makes no sense. I'm going to go out and buy something I don't want or need just to pasify someone? Mustngs vs. Camaro is cool, but you are smart enough to see how dumb that is.

Just to clarify something-I did not TELL chad to go and buy a sneaky pete kit...on the first pahge of this thread, he said he would beat Andrew with one...then andrew said to back it up, and Chad said no, there was no need to. I was basiclaly saying, NOT to say you could beat someone with such and such mod, and then when they say to prove it...you say "no,it's not worth my time". Never in there did I say for him to go and buy one.

Dupont24

06-15-2003, 09:54 PM

I didn't say you did. I understand if he said he should back it up. But realisticly there is no way for him to. I see your point, if he can't do it he shouldn't say it.

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 09:57 PM

Exactly

SNEAKY

06-15-2003, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by Dupont24
My point is the idiot telling him to go and buy a sneaky pete to race that guy. C'mon....that makes no sense. I'm going to go out and buy something I don't want or need just to pasify someone? Mustngs vs. Camaro is cool, but you are smart enough to see how dumb that is. to help you out a little

Originally posted by StangTamer
Hell, I'd probably be able to handle up on you with a Sneaky Pete.
maybe you should read this thread, it would clear things up a little for you. Al P, you taking this guys side? ;)
http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29744

BTW don't call stangtamers car a camaro, he may get made.:D

Boss Hogg

06-15-2003, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by FordGuy302
that time is in my sig. Time was run on 17" nitto's with 800 miles on the motor and NO tune. Not to mention the car was set-up for road racing, and the car didn't make power until 4k. ( was built for top-end/highway racing) and the fact i had 3.55's in the rear. Not to mention, I had a HUGE stereo in the car, and note the 1.76 60'. Hell..my stock motor that turned 13.9@98 on Nitto's was on a 1.89 60'
:eek: Damn, I've seen a shorter list of disclaimers on health insurance.

Dupont24

06-15-2003, 10:01 PM

I know what was said...I read the entire thread. So now the guy is supposed to go out and buy a sneaky pete? And I didn't call his car a Camaro.....I was talking about me

FordGuy302

06-15-2003, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by David Z28
:eek: Damn, I've seen a shorter list of disclaimers on health insurance.

Just call me STROKD :D

SNEAKY

06-15-2003, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by Dupont24
I know what was said...I read the entire thread. So now the guy is supposed to go out and buy a sneaky pete? And I didn't call his car a Camaro.....I was talking about me
it would not be the only thing he has bought to try and hang with a little small block ford. i think he has change motor combos about three times cause he knows he is gonna get his ass handed to him on platter when he brings the POS out, so he is tryng to delay it as long as he can. his junk has been down for six years now, and he thinks his is gonna come out a run 10's on motor and go 8's on the bottle on 30year old suspinsion. i will be there with a camera and a truck and trailer to drag him home when he hits the wall the first time he hits the bottle.

one word of advice, get you some hip waders cause the shit gets deep in here.

Dupont24

06-15-2003, 10:19 PM

werd :D

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by SNEAKY
my point is you come into our sandbox talking smack to people you do not even know. if you want to run, i am sure it can be aranged sometime.

Why is it ok for Fordguy302 to flame me (when he has a whole 100 posts), but it's not ok for Dupont24 to throw a few flames back? Don't flame on Dupont24 because he isn't licking Andrews balls like most of you guys on here. He has a valid point and you know it.

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by SNEAKY
it would not be the only thing he has bought to try and hang with a little small block ford. i think he has change motor combos about three times cause he knows he is gonna get his ass handed to him on platter when he brings the POS out, so he is tryng to delay it as long as he can. his junk has been down for six years now, and he thinks his is gonna come out a run 10's on motor and go 8's on the bottle on 30year old suspinsion. i will be there with a camera and a truck and trailer to drag him home when he hits the wall the first time he hits the bottle.

one word of advice, get you some hip waders cause the shit gets deep in here.

Yeah WTF ever!! Changed motor combos three times?:confused: That would be like me saying Andrew changed motor combos about four or five times because he is trying to make his combo better than mine. That's just racing and part of building a motor. Hell yeah, everyone wants to get the most out of there combo. That is all I'm doing, I'm not trying to delay shit. Yeah my car(73 Bird) hasn't been running in 6 years. But, I haven't been working on it that long. Maybe a year on buying 10-15K in parts. Give it a try sometime, it's not that easy. The 68 has been running since before I first posted on here. I plan on running 9's on motor FYI. I will bet you money that it will run in the 10's on the first clean pass on motor. It will definately take some tuning time and a diet to run 9's on motor, but I will get it there. That 30 year old suspension hooked up last time with 1.49 60 fts so it isn't that bad. I have seen guys run 6.0's on that 30 year old suspension.

FordGuy302

06-16-2003, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Why is it ok for Fordguy302 to flame me (when he has a whole 100 posts), but it's not ok for Dupont24 to throw a few flames back? Don't flame on Dupont24 because he isn't licking Andrews balls like most of you guys on here. He has a valid point and you know it.

For starters, it's a MUSTANG website, and I am representin' the Stangs. So, naturally people here are going to have my back/not jump my shit, for flaming a GM owner. Secondly, the ford I am representin RUNS, not a car that WILL run, and I don't pop off numbers said car will/can/might could run. Secondly, Dupont drives a GM, and when a GM owner comes to a Ford oriented site, and starts popping off at Ford owners, it is only natural that he is going to get flamed on. Kinda like yourself..you come to a ford website, and talk a bunch of shit, of course you're going to get shi talked right back to ya. Just my .02

BTW-it's 118 posts, jackass :D

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by FordGuy302
For starters, it's a MUSTANG website, and I am representin' the Stangs. So, naturally people here are going to have my back/not jump my shit, for flaming a GM owner. Secondly, the ford I am representin RUNS, not a car that WILL run, and I don't pop off numbers said car will/can/might could run. Secondly, Dupont drives a GM, and when a GM owner comes to a Ford oriented site, and starts popping off at Ford owners, it is only natural that he is going to get flamed on. Kinda like yourself..you come to a ford website, and talk a bunch of shit, of course you're going to get shi talked right back to ya. Just my .02

BTW-it's 118 posts, jackass :D

Well, there are more GM guys on here than you think noob. You have alot to learn about this site. When you say something stupid, you will get called BS on it regardless of what kind of car you have. Dupont called BS on what you said, and he had a good point. He wasn't flaming on Mustangs even though they do suck. So, it didn't have anything to do with what kind of turd you drive. He was just stating the obvious, that it is not likely that anyone is going to go out and purposely spend money to down grade there car to prove a point. I was talking shit to Andrew and he called me on it. That is fine. I will race him with a Sneaky Pete if he can get me one to use for the day. But, I am not going to spend the $250.00-300.00 for something I would only use once.

FordGuy302

06-16-2003, 01:35 AM

Noob? If I do recall...July 2001 came before August 2001 on the calendar. I don't post her often, mainly read etc. Sorry I don't live my life on the internet like some people do.

2tonecpe

06-16-2003, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Well, there are more GM guys on here than you think noob. You have alot to learn about this site. When you say something stupid, you will get called BS on it regardless of what kind of car you have. Dupont called BS on what you said, and he had a good point. He wasn't flaming on Mustangs even though they do suck. So, it didn't have anything to do with what kind of turd you drive. He was just stating the obvious, that it is not likely that anyone is going to go out and purposely spend money to down grade there car to prove a point. I was talking shit to Andrew and he called me on it. That is fine. I will race him with a Sneaky Pete if he can get me one to use for the day. But, I am not going to spend the $250.00-300.00 for something I would only use once.

Come on man, how far can a sneaky pete honestly go on a big cube motor, 60 ft mark maybe. How far you got now?

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by FordGuy302
Noob? If I do recall...July 2001 came before August 2001 on the calendar. I don't post her often, mainly read etc. Sorry I don't live my life on the internet like some people do.

Only 119 posts you are still considered a noob. Hell, I could have posted up when they first started this site and made one post a year and still be considered a noob. I tell you what, since you posted up 2 years ago I will give you the VIP noob status. Better?

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by GRAN86
Come on man, how far can a sneaky pete honestly go on a big cube motor, 60 ft mark maybe. How far you got now?

Not to far.lol I was being sarcastic and got called on it. I feel obligated to do it now.haha I have all of the main stuff other than the distributer. It will probably be back from MSD in a couple weeks(hopefully). I have just been putting everything together and trying to get it set up as much as I can for now. So, once I get the distributer I should be able to bust it off and get to tuning.

2tonecpe

06-16-2003, 02:05 AM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Not to far.lol I was being sarcastic and got called on it. I feel obligated to do it now.haha I have all of the main stuff other than the distributer. It will probably be back from MSD in a couple weeks(hopefully). I have just been putting everything together and trying to get it set up as much as I can for now. So, once I get the distributer I should be able to bust it off and get to tuning.

Hopefully by the 11th of July. Just imagine the headlines now, after years in the making, ANDREW vs. STANGTAMER. Of course, being of Mustang blood I'm gonna have to go for Andrew but would love to see the race. Hell maybe Garso,JC, jetfast50, 302-a few, TApimp,black TA, and whoever has called me out and not shown up can make it out there so I can shut them up, might be a good night if its not to hot.

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by GRAN86
Hopefully by the 11th of July. Just imagine the headlines now, after years in the making, ANDREW vs. STANGTAMER. Of course, being of Mustang blood I'm gonna have to go for Andrew but would love to see the race. Hell maybe Garso,JC, jetfast50, 302-a few, TApimp,black TA, and whoever has called me out and not shown up can make it out there so I can shut them up, might be a good night if its not to hot.

Well, it has been 6 years since I drove anything fast, so I am going to need some seat time. So, I don't think I will be racing Andrew for a while (couple months atleast) unless I am comfortable with the car. Hell, for atleast the first month I am going to be dialing it in on motor. Once I get her set on kill I will start squizing it. Plus, I will be calling out alot of the slower guys that have talked trash to me in the past and work my way up to Andrew. If I chop his head first nobody will want to race me.lol

SNEAKY

06-16-2003, 08:32 AM

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by SNEAKY
this is the main reason i started bagging on him. i have been bagging on you since before you started talking shit to andrew:D
don't hate the player

Well, like I said earlier, he has a good point.

SNEAKY

06-16-2003, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Well, like I said earlier, he has a good point.
your just happy to have anyone on your side.:D

StangTamer

06-16-2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by SNEAKY
your just happy to have anyone on your side.:D

True, to a point. I probably have about 10 people on my side and I think only half of those think I will win, the other half just hope.lol If Andrew goes through with the Turbo set up then I may as well hang it up. I can't compete with his paychecks. That's one of the only down falls of being a family man.

OvrKill

06-16-2003, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
True, to a point. I probably have about 10 people on my side and I think only half of those think I will win, the other half just hope.lol If Andrew goes through with the Turbo set up then I may as well hang it up. I can't compete with his paychecks. That's one of the only down falls of being a family man.

I was thinking the same thing when I read this thread today. People get on the Tamer for not having his stuff done yet and taking so long to do it, but he has a family. He has to pay for things for his children, he has to provide for his whole family. After work and family and probably a few other things falls the car. Things like buying the heads for his car might of taken saving up for 4 months. I remember about 6 or 8 months ago his wife got sick so that sort of did away with the car plans for a while. I know one thing, when he gets his car out of the garage if he beats Andrew or not he will have my respect. And he really will be able to chop most guy's heads. And I still think he will be able to take him in the 1/8, we will see about the 1/4 and I can't wait to get a ride in it :D

SNEAKY

06-16-2003, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by OvrKill
I was thinking the same thing when I read this thread today. People get on the Tamer for not having his stuff done yet and taking so long to do it, but he has a family. He has to pay for things for his children, he has to provide for his whole family. After work and family and probably a few other things falls the car. Things like buying the heads for his car might of taken saving up for 4 months. I remember about 6 or 8 months ago his wife got sick so that sort of did away with the car plans for a while. I know one thing, when he gets his car out of the garage if he beats Andrew or not he will have my respect. And he really will be able to chop most guy's heads. And I still think he will be able to take him in the 1/8, we will see about the 1/4 and I can't wait to get a ride in it :D
chads problem is that he got too cocky too fast. he was wise cracking when there was one car and one bike in the nines on this site. now there is a half dozen or so, and more that are almost there. my car has been down for over a year now, i do not make that much money at all, so i know where he is coming from on the money situation. he will go six's, five's i do not know. thats not horsepower, that suspinsion. i just do not think leaf springs and slapper bars are gonna cut it.

lets get back to the subject at hand. is Andrew and JS12 gonna run?

StangTamer

06-17-2003, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by SNEAKY
chads problem is that he got too cocky too fast. he was wise cracking when there was one car and one bike in the nines on this site. now there is a half dozen or so, and more that are almost there. my car has been down for over a year now, i do not make that much money at all, so i know where he is coming from on the money situation. he will go six's, five's i do not know. thats not horsepower, that suspinsion. i just do not think leaf springs and slapper bars are gonna cut it.

lets get back to the subject at hand. is Andrew and JS12 gonna run?

The reason I talk smack is for motivation. I don't think I could have picked a better person to talk smack and grudge with than Andrew. Regardless if I win, lose, or draw against Andrew I will still be happy. Yeah, I will be happier if I win. But, if it wasn't for Andrew, my car wouldn't be close to running or as fast as it is going to be. That is the only reason I talk smack. It motivates me to build my car faster and faster because I don't want to lose. I would really like to see how my car will do against Andrews with the blower set up. I think it would make for a close race, and could go either way. But, I think he is going to get a turbo set up now. I can't compete with Andrew when it comes to money. So, I will most likely lose if he puts a turbo setup on. Hopefully I can get my car tuned out and race him before he makes the changes. I would hope it could possibly happen within 2 months after I get my car running due to seat/tune time. The question is, will he make his change before I am ready. But that's racing, if he does so be it. I'll give him all the Tamer has and see how I come out. I guess it wouldn't be to bad to lose to Andrew considering he should be able to beat everyone on this board once he is in full tune.

StangTamer

06-17-2003, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by OvrKill
I was thinking the same thing when I read this thread today. People get on the Tamer for not having his stuff done yet and taking so long to do it, but he has a family. He has to pay for things for his children, he has to provide for his whole family. After work and family and probably a few other things falls the car. Things like buying the heads for his car might of taken saving up for 4 months. I remember about 6 or 8 months ago his wife got sick so that sort of did away with the car plans for a while. I know one thing, when he gets his car out of the garage if he beats Andrew or not he will have my respect. And he really will be able to chop most guy's heads. And I still think he will be able to take him in the 1/8, we will see about the 1/4 and I can't wait to get a ride in it :D

Alot of people seem to think I have been building on one car. The reason it has been taking so long to get one of my cars on the road is because, I couldn't make my mind up on which one to fix first. My 68 Firebird has been running since I started posting on here. I just decided to try and paint it and redo the interior. I am not the best body man in the world so it is taking a long time to staighten it out. I honestly could have the 68 on the road in a weekend if I want to just through it together. But, I really want to make it right. The 73 Firebird I started building the motor a little over a year ago off and on. I have went back and forth on working on and spending money on both cars. In the last year alone I have probably spent between 10-15k(cash not credit) on the 73 Bird so it's not like I make chump change. The 73 Bird will probably come out looking like shit. I just want to get it on the road and race Andrew so I can get people off my back for taking so long.lol Plus, this all work no play sucks.

Andrew

06-17-2003, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
I honestly could have the 68 on the road in a weekend if I want to just through it together.

Honestly, both of your cars are slow and you are an idiot.

StangTamer

06-17-2003, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by Andrew
Honestly, both of your cars are slow and you are an idiot.

We'll see, won't we. Do what you got to do.

302_plus_a_few

06-17-2003, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Alot of people seem to think I have been building on one car. The reason it has been taking so long to get one of my cars on the road is because......I stopped reading right there. Didn't figure I needed to read excuse number 1,203,458,004. It's probably like all of the rest.

StangTamer

06-19-2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by SNEAKY
it would not be the only thing he has bought to try and hang with a little small block ford. i think he has change motor combos about three times cause he knows he is gonna get his ass handed to him on platter when he brings the POS out, so he is tryng to delay it as long as he can. his junk has been down for six years now, and he thinks his is gonna come out a run 10's on motor and go 8's on the bottle on 30year old suspinsion. i will be there with a camera and a truck and trailer to drag him home when he hits the wall the first time he hits the bottle.

one word of advice, get you some hip waders cause the shit gets deep in here.

Oh, and about that 30year old suspension...I have the same if not better setup than this guy.

1976 T/A Specs

*455 4 Bolt Block with 3 Center Billet Caps*
*428 Prepped Crank*
*Pontiac length BME Aluminum Rods w/BBC big end-.990 pin end*
*SRP 428 +.065 Flattop Pistons*
*Edelbrock Ported Aluminum Heads, 89 cc's*
*2.11/1.75 valves, 9.5 final compression*
*T & D 1.65 Rocker Shaft Assembly*
*UltraDyne(Dude's spec.)Roller Cam*
(I'd give ya the specs but.....then I'd have to kill ya*
*Warrior(out of the box)Intake*
*Modified 850 Holley Carb.*
*10" Fairbanks 3500 Convertor*
*T-400 Transmission*
*3 1/2" exhaust with 3" tailpipes*
*4:10 Ford 9" rear*
*Single stage Big Shot NOS System*
*Car weighed 3525 lbs w/driver*
*Stock front and stock rear Leaf spring suspension w/southside bars*
Best ET with this combo....9.44@146mph
*And ii was street legal and driven!*
*I use this car as my test bed*
*I try different combinations in it*

Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~

06-19-2003, 08:32 PM

Is it ready yet????

StangTamer

06-20-2003, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~
Is it ready yet????

MSD called and said they sent my distributer out today. So it should be here Monday or Tuesday. I just have to bolt a few more things up. I should have everything done this weekend and be waiting on the distributer. By that time I should be able to bust it off.

99 Trans Am

06-20-2003, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by StangTamer
Alot of people seem to think I have been building on one car. The reason it has been taking so long to get one of my cars on the road is because, I couldn't make my mind up on which one to fix first. My 68 Firebird has been running since I started posting on here. I just decided to try and paint it and redo the interior. I am not the best body man in the world so it is taking a long time to staighten it out. I honestly could have the 68 on the road in a weekend if I want to just through it together. But, I really want to make it right. The 73 Firebird I started building the motor a little over a year ago off and on. I have went back and forth on working on and spending money on both cars. In the last year alone I have probably spent between 10-15k(cash not credit) on the 73 Bird so it's not like I make chump change. The 73 Bird will probably come out looking like shit. I just want to get it on the road and race Andrew so I can get people off my back for taking so long.lol Plus, this all work no play sucks.

YOu dug your own grave ...so lay in it! That car will never be infront of half the people on this site. So keep bull shitin' yourself and throwing your money in a hole......HAHAHAH!:p

StangTamer

06-20-2003, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by 99 Trans Am
YOu dug your own grave ...so lay in it! That car will never be infront of half the people on this site. So keep bull shitin' yourself and throwing your money in a hole......HAHAHAH!:p

I'm not going to lay in nothing yet. The only reason my car won't be in front of half of the peiple on this site is because they won't want to race me. If you want to line your weak ass corp. motored LS1 up against me, I would be more than willing to lay down some money on that race.

Andrew

06-20-2003, 09:22 AM

Bring it out, man!

StangTamer

06-20-2003, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Andrew
Bring it out, man!

I will. Like I said, it should be running by Tuesday.

Michael MMT

06-21-2003, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
I'm not going to lay in nothing yet. The only reason my car won't be in front of half of the peiple on this site is because they won't want to race me. If you want to line your weak ass corp. motored LS1 up against me, I would be more than willing to lay down some money on that race.

That ls-1 just happens to way 3400lbs and runs a 10:86@126 on motor....he also drives it 120 miles plus daily. Some weak as corp. motor.....huh?

StangTamer

06-21-2003, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Michael MMT
That ls-1 just happens to way 3400lbs and runs a 10:86@126 on motor....he also drives it 120 miles plus daily. Some weak as corp. motor.....huh?

Well if he only runs 10.86 on motor he needs to keep his mouth shut about my car, because that won't be enough for him to beat me on motor. BTW, before you crack on my car, it weighed in last time at 3460lbs. so he isn't the only one. I drive my car alot when it is running. Last time it was out I would drive it from Wolf City to Irving(Approx. 140 miles) 6 days a week.

Michael MMT

06-21-2003, 05:33 PM

so have you been out to the track yet? Have you run a time yet? will you drive this car daily? will you even make 450 to the wheels on motor? I doubt that car is able to do any of the above listed. I bet you will shut your mouth real quick when you cant even run a 6.90 on motor. haha lol.:D

StangTamer

06-21-2003, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by Michael MMT
so have you been out to the track yet? Have you run a time yet? will you drive this car daily? will you even make 450 to the wheels on motor? I doubt that car is able to do any of the above listed. I bet you will shut your mouth real quick when you cant even run a 6.90 on motor. haha lol.:D

To answer your questions, no, no, no, and don't know. I'm not sure what it will look like with a TH400 with 4100 stall. But, I would have to think it will put down 450-500rwhp on motor. I haven't ever had my car on a chassis dyno before. You guys up there have a chassis dyno, you tell me what 650-700 crank HP with 625tq should put out on with a TH400.

How about once I go to tune my car out, I take it up there and run it on your dyno. If I make 450rwhp or more you give me the session free. If it doesn't I will pay your fee.:D Then we can go to the Redline and if I run better than a 6.90 atleast once on motor you pay my entree/race fee. If I don't run better I'll pay yours.

JS12

06-21-2003, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Michael MMT
That ls-1 just happens to way 3400lbs and runs a 10:86@126 on motor....he also drives it 120 miles plus daily. Some weak as corp. motor.....huh?

some dude in chicago ran 10.93 @125 CAM ONLY, wow, impressive huh?:eek:

302_plus_a_few

06-21-2003, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by JS12
some dude in chicago ran 10.93 @125 CAM ONLY, wow, impressive huh?:eek: That car had to have been a gutted go kart to run that.

dragradialstang

06-21-2003, 08:07 PM

Big Thumper

06-21-2003, 10:40 PM

All of us guys that don't have running cars talk shit. I'm gonna kick all your ass' come later this year...lol That is right boys, I have started working on the turbo car again.

Boss Hogg

06-22-2003, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Big Thumper
That is right boys, I have started working on the turbo car again.
You've been working on that since '99.

StangTamer

06-22-2003, 01:07 PM

mmmmm, bench racing's fun. It's funner backing it up though.:)

Saladbar

06-22-2003, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by StangTamer
mmmmm, bench racing's fun. It's funner backing it up though.:)

Like you would know!!! :jab jab: :p

While on the subject of jabs... heh... Hey FordGuy302 - you claim your car was set up for highway racing??? W/ 114mph trap speeds? :eek: .. Sorry dude, you won't hang. Just a heads up..

StangTamer

06-22-2003, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Saladbar
Like you would know!!! :jab jab: :p

While on the subject of jabs... heh... Hey FordGuy302 - you claim your car was set up for highway racing??? W/ 114mph trap speeds? :eek: .. Sorry dude, you won't hang. Just a heads up..

I know, because I did this the last time I had my car going and backed it up.:cool:

Big Thumper

06-22-2003, 03:48 PM

It feels longer than 99', but I quit counting 5 years ago..lol. The fabrication that it takes is....well, you could never understand!

Cmarsh93z

06-22-2003, 05:00 PM

Just don't cut the red wire scott!!!!!!! :) :)

Chris

Boss Hogg

06-22-2003, 06:27 PM

Originally posted by Big Thumper
The fabrication that it takes is....well, you could never understand!
It's not my fault LS1s are so great.

Big Thumper

06-22-2003, 06:41 PM

It doesn't matter if it's a Mustang, LS1 or even a Dodge, the fabrication still has to happen to make the parts fit. I don't think they have a 91mm bolt-on turbo kit for LS1's just yet!

Easy on the red wire, I saw some of your wiring last week.....:)

Cmarsh93z

06-22-2003, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Big Thumper
It doesn't matter if it's a Mustang, LS1 or even a Dodge, the fabrication still has to happen to make the parts fit. I don't think they have a 91mm bolt-on turbo kit for LS1's just yet!

Easy on the red wire, I saw some of your wiring last week.....:)

No you didn't. I haven't worked on a car in the shop in a year or two...try again :) I make my money with a keyboard...you know this!

Chris