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SNEAKY
06-08-2003, 10:05 PM
this would include any gm product vs any ford product. i think it would be better if it where stock frame and no back halves or latter bars. a set up like a the buick ford shoot out would be cool.


this is just an idea i had, post up your thoughts, maybe we can get it hosted at one of the local tracks.

Saladbar
06-08-2003, 10:05 PM
Heh... we already know who would win this one.

Damn Ferds!!

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
this would include any gm product vs any ford product. i think it would be better if it where stock frame and no back halves or latter bars.
I think it would be better with stock motors and no nitrous or boost.

Originally posted by SNEAKY
this is just an idea i had, post up your thoughts, maybe we can get it hosted at one of the local tracks.
My thought is that it will never happen.

Andrew
06-08-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
I think it would be better with stock motors and no nitrous or boost.


My thought is that it will never happen.

My guess is that you'll never show up because you're too much of a pussy to actually go to the track to race...

Kirk might even go!

BTW, I'll be happy to kick some GM ass! :)

SVTVenom
06-08-2003, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
I think it would be better with stock motors and no nitrous or boost.

And you expect '03 Cobra and Lightning owners to just take off their STOCK blowers and make some custom intake to "level the playing field" for pathetic GM technology? :rolleyes:

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Andrew
My guess is that you'll never show up because you're too much of a pussy to actually go to the track to race...
:confused: Why am I a pussy?

Saladbar
06-08-2003, 10:18 PM
I can get a quick N/A 3rd gen to come out I'm sure though, if this deal does come through :) .

StangTamer
06-08-2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Andrew
My guess is that you'll never show up because you're too much of a pussy to actually go to the track to race...

Kirk might even go!

BTW, I'll be happy to kick some GM ass! :)


Not if my car was there!! You would get sssssmoked!!!

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 10:26 PM
It was called sarcasm, Kevin Arnold. Besides, one might offer as a rebuttal to your statement, [i]"If GM technology is so pathetic why does Ford need to slap blowers on OHV motors to match an old NA pushrod design?"[i]

SVTVenom
06-08-2003, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
It was called sarcasm, Kevin Arnold. Besides, one might offer as a rebuttal to your statement, [i]"If GM technology is so pathetic why does Ford need to slap blowers on OHV motors to match an old NA pushrod design?"[i]

Because they don't lay all their cards down on the table at one time. 5.0 N/A DOHC would meet if not beat the LS1. (There is a good possiblity it could find its way into the '05)

Same could be turned on you. Why did GM go from a 305 TPI to the 5.7L LT1 and then to the 5.7L LS1? Were the 5.0's beating up on them that bad?

SNEAKY
06-08-2003, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
I think it would be better with stock motors and no nitrous or boost.


My thought is that it will never happen.
THAT IS WHY I LIKE THE BUICK / FORD SHOOTOUTS.

you time trail for awhile, i know there will be sandbaggin, and then the best times for all of the cars are figgure and the you make the bracket from there. the latter starts with the fastest cars and goes to the slowest, the races are from the slowest to the fastest. each team gets points for who wins.

SVTVenom
06-08-2003, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
THAT IS WHY I LIKE THE BUICK / FORD SHOOTOUTS.

you time trail for awhile, i know there will be sandbaggin, and then the best times for all of the cars are figgure and the you make the bracket from there. the latter starts with the fastest cars and goes to the slowest, the races are from the slowest to the fastest. each team gets points for who wins.

The 'team' style seems to be pretty cool to me. I'd say top 5 fastest Fords vs. top 5 fastest GM's.

lowthreeohz
06-08-2003, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by SVTVenom


Same could be turned on you. Why did GM go from a 305 TPI to the 5.7L LT1 and then to the 5.7L LS1? Were the 5.0's beating up on them that bad?

they've had 5.7s for a long time, the 305TPI was a complete waste of metal, the 350tpi(L98) wasn't much better but it was a 5.7 all the same..

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by SVTVenom
Because they don't lay all their cards down on the table at one time. 5.0 N/A DOHC would meet if not beat the LS1.
Are you saying Ford held thier trump card for 10 years (2003 Cobra) waiting for the perfect opportunity to lay it down? You sir, are a dork. If they had the technology, they would have used it.

Originally posted by SVTVenom
Same could be turned on you. Why did GM go from a 305 TPI to the 5.7L LT1 and then to the 5.7L LS1?Check your history. Displacement of F-bods has actually decreased since the late 80s.

Originally posted by SVTVenom
Were the 5.0's beating up on them that bad?
Yes, Ford technology was better so GM stepped up to the plate.

Sneaky, I'd be all for it, but I just don't expect it to come together.

I put together a DFWStangs vs. LS1.com grudge match back in '99 or '00. Had everything lined up, set the date out a month in advance, and had about 20 grudge matches set. Got to the track and less than half actually showed up. :rolleyes:

See if you get a response on LS1.com. There are hundreds of Mustangs on this site, post on the Back Porch and see how many are willing to join the event.

mean90
06-08-2003, 11:09 PM
the reason why ford slapped a charger on the ohv engines is cause they wanted to think more of keeping the car in one pieace while putting down alot of horse instead of letting the damn chassis fall apart and think of make a n/a motor put down 305 hp stock.

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by mean98
the reason why ford slapped a charger on the ohv engines is cause they wanted to think more of keeping the car in one pieace while putting down alot of horse instead of letting the damn chassis fall apart and think of make a n/a motor put down 305 hp stock.
Quit making fun of '99 Cobras.

mean90
06-08-2003, 11:15 PM
Man you got alot of balls to post that then be signed off within 1 min after that.
Fucking GM owners always smarting off.

Lane
06-08-2003, 11:17 PM
I'm game. :)

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 11:18 PM
:confused: I'm right here.

mean90
06-08-2003, 11:18 PM
Now back to the post

I will show when ever it is.

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 11:28 PM
There's an easy victory for GM.

mean90
06-08-2003, 11:32 PM
man you post and get off again, what a pussy, and right know i'm running low 8's so i would think about that comment.

z28ss21
06-08-2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by mean98
man you post and get off again, what a pussy, and right know i'm running low 8's so i would think about that comment.

LMAO

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 11:38 PM
Calm down, I'm right here. I don't know why you are getting so pissy, I was talking about Lane's car.

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mean90
06-08-2003, 11:43 PM
Thats cool

Boss Hogg
06-08-2003, 11:48 PM
But your car does suck!

mean90
06-08-2003, 11:50 PM
FUCKING GM OWNERS SUCK

mikeb
06-08-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by mean98
FUCKING GM OWNERS SUCK

I'm in :)

YoBro
06-08-2003, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by mean98
FUCKING GM OWNERS SUCK

Your just mad because your slow!!!!

Boss Hogg
06-09-2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by mean98
FUCKING GM OWNERS SUCK
OK, once again, I was talking to Lane. I apologize for not addressing it properly. Please accept my apology.

Saladbar
06-09-2003, 12:30 AM
No sense in doing that David... He's already signed off.. ;)


PS - since when is running low 8's w/ a power adder considered something to worry about? :eek: It's more laughable to think that's fast! bahahahaha

StangTamer
06-09-2003, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by David Z28
But your car does suck!


ROFLMAO!!!

E V I L
06-09-2003, 02:03 AM
mean98 get you panties out of a wad, you have a stock ass 4.6 with a little spray and run low 9's, last time i checked that was SUPER SLOW.....and im pretty sure David would ROYALLY hand you your ass on an LS1 platter!! :rolleyes: And no need to bring my talon into this cause ill race this "mean98" on the highway, you wouldnt ever race my coupe so now is your chance to beat a little 4 cylinder!! :D

93 Blk Coupe
06-09-2003, 07:39 AM
sounds like fun...if it happens i am in...:D

302_plus_a_few
06-09-2003, 08:30 AM
If anyone wants to race David Z28 at an event like this let me know, because once I say I'll be there, he won't show. :p

You'd probably get more of the GM guys to show up if you divided it up into non power adder and power adder classes. The top 11 on the fastest 1/8th mile list are all Fords. I can already hear all of the crying.

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Boss Hogg
06-09-2003, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by 302_plus_a_few
If anyone wants to race David Z28 at an event like this let me know, because once I say I'll be there, he won't show. :p
Yawn

Originally posted by 302_plus_a_few
The top 11 on the fastest 1/8th mile list are all Fords. I can already hear all of the crying.
On a Mustang website with a 100 to 1 advantage for Ford, I think it's sad that so many GMs are even on the lists.

SNEAKY
06-09-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by SVTVenom
The 'team' style seems to be pretty cool to me. I'd say top 5 fastest Fords vs. top 5 fastest GM's.
why would anyone want to go and watch five races?:confused:

i will do some more checking in on it david, but i would rather not goto ls1.com, i dought there is any room for me over there with all of the egos:D so me get this ironed out some more and maybe you could post a link to it.

STROKD
06-09-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by mean98
the reason why ford slapped a charger on the ohv engines is cause they wanted to think more of keeping the car in one pieace while putting down alot of horse instead of letting the damn chassis fall apart and think of make a n/a motor put down 305 hp stock. Ford never put a blower on the OHV motors... Am I the only one that saw this?:D

Boss Hogg
06-09-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
i will do some more checking in on it david, but i would rather not goto ls1.com, i dought there is any room for me over there with all of the egos:D
Trust me, the egos over here are much bigger. That's why I like it here. You're just on the wrong side of the fence.

You can try to put it together. But if you choose Denton, the M6 LS1.com people aren't going to be interested. 99% of those guys don't own a 12 bolt and slicks. You can call them wimps, ricers, or whatever. I'm just telling you the facts.

I think it would be great to have 50 cars on each side, I just don't see it happening.

There was a large LS1.com gathering on Saturday. Almost 200 cars said they'd be there. Only half of them actually showed up. :rolleyes:

Jimbo
06-09-2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by STROKD
Ford never put a blower on the OHV motors... Am I the only one that saw this?:D

Technically, an OHC motor is still an OHV motor...................:D

FlowJack
06-09-2003, 12:48 PM
Count me in!;)

302_plus_a_few
06-09-2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
On a Mustang website with a 100 to 1 advantage for Ford, I think it's sad that so many GMs are even on the lists. Its more like 3:1 so far. (http://www.dfwstangs.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104043)

NDSP
06-09-2003, 03:19 PM
How about having time trials and the top eight fords run against the top eight GM's in a draw type eliminations. Where you would draw from one hat the fords and another hat the GMs to pair them up. After the first round all cars would go in a single hat and we draw pairings until the final pairing.

Big Thumper
06-09-2003, 07:17 PM
I think that would be very cool. I've wanted to get something like this together, so I'm game if it does occur. I just need a little advance so I can make sure I'm off that day.

lowthreeohz
06-09-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by 302_plus_a_few
Its more like 3:1 so far. (http://www.dfwstangs.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104043)

there's more than a few hundred people on this site...

DRSVT
06-09-2003, 08:24 PM
i am game :D

StangTamer
06-09-2003, 08:28 PM
I think that we should have a DFWstangs "Mustangs vs everything else" on this board(meaning every make of car other than a Mustang that posts on here I.E Capri, Fairmonts, Camaro, Firebird, Ect.). There are plenty of GMs and other types of Fords on this board. It would probably even out on speed as well. If we had a DFWstangs vs LS1.com I wouldn't want to be on the LS1.com side, but I would kind of feel weird about which side I was suppose to be on since I own a GM. DFWstangs.net is my home.:)

Boss Hogg
06-09-2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by StangTamer
If we had a DFWstangs vs LS1.com I wouldn't want to be on the LS1.com side, but I would kind of feel weird about which side I was suppose to be on since I own a GM.
I want you to race for DFWStangs so that the GM side can have an easy victory when you don't show up.

StangTamer
06-09-2003, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
I want you to race for DFWStangs so that the GM side can have an easy victory when you don't show up.


LOL!! If my car is running I will show up. The motor and trans are in the car right now. I would post a pic but the system says it is to large and I can't figure out how to make it smaller.:mad:

ZYouL8R
06-09-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by Evil 91Talon
mean98 get you panties out of a wad, you have a stock ass 4.6 with a little spray and run low 9's, last time i checked that was SUPER SLOW.....and im pretty sure David would ROYALLY hand you your ass on an LS1 platter!! :rolleyes: And no need to bring my talon into this cause ill race this "mean98" on the highway, you wouldnt ever race my coupe so now is your chance to beat a little 4 cylinder!! :D

And what will your excuse be when you lose?

SNEAKY
06-09-2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
I want you to race for DFWStangs so that the GM side can have an easy victory when you don't show up.
LMAO,

i understand about most Fbody guys not wanting to run 1/8, but the only way to get any kind race at a 1/4 mile track is to book the track before the season begins. i would be down for redline or kennadale. maybe kechme can pull some strings at redline. but of course, not matter which track or date is picked, somebody will have a beef with it. i am not wild about hallsville for some reason, and ennis would near impossible to get, i gues that would leave temple or noble.


James the reason i like the way they do it in the Buick vs Ford thing, is cause everyone gets to races. a quick 8 would mean most people will not even show cause they think they will nor make it into the latter.

mikeb
06-09-2003, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
James the reason i like the way they do it in the Buick vs Ford thing, is cause everyone gets to races. a quick 8 would mean most people will not even show cause they think they will nor make it into the latter.

James likes head-up racing LOL..... but, for such a race - everyone not in the 6's in the 1/8th ain't gonna show up. What's the point of paying the entry fee for a slower car just to get knocked out 1st round?

So.... if you want a decent turnout you've gotta do it in a way where everyone has a chance of winning, even if they have a 7/8/9 second car - or you host the "race of the champions" and hope to get 5 or 6 cars to show up.

It's either heads up/low turnout or some kind of bracket race where everyone has an even chance.

Are we doing the race to determine the fastest cars (hell just go look on the fastest list) or are we doing the race for fun and to allow maximum participation?

I like the idea of a little brand rivalry. Should be fun.

Jimbo
06-09-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by StangTamer
I think that we should have a DFWstangs "Mustangs vs everything else" on this board(meaning every make of car other than a Mustang that posts on here I.E Capri, Fairmonts,

That would be like having a Trans Am vs. Formula shootout.

StangTamer
06-09-2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Jimbo
That would be like having a Trans Am vs. Formula shootout.


More like a Camaro vs Firebird. But like I was saying, it would make for some better races and more people would show.

I like the idea of heads up races for the faster cars and having some brackets as well for the slower cars.

SNEAKY
06-09-2003, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by StangTamer
More like a Camaro vs Firebird. But like I was saying, it would make for some better races and more people would show.

I like the idea of heads up races for the faster cars and having some brackets as well for the slower cars.
i like my idea better:p

racinreid
06-09-2003, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by David Z28
:confused: I'm right here. I'LL BE THER WITH MY SLOW ASS LT1 Ha Ha!

SLOW 77
06-10-2003, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by mean98
FUCKING GM OWNERS SUCK

I am in!

StangTamer
06-10-2003, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by SLOW 77
I am in!


Looks like some one just bit off more than they could chew.lol John check your e-mail. I sent you a pic.

Kris
06-10-2003, 08:21 AM
Any dates been comfirmed???

SNEAKY
08-20-2003, 11:42 PM
i completely forgot about this.

Boss Hogg
08-20-2003, 11:56 PM
Damn I'm funny. I even chuckled at the 1st page of this thread where I bust mean98.

BTW, it still won't happen, Sneaky. Most LS1 guys on the internet don't go to the track and most of the old school Chevy guys who are at the track don't know how to get on the internet.

SNEAKY
08-20-2003, 11:58 PM
what about East side Vs West side

Boss Hogg
08-21-2003, 12:05 AM
OK, let's all meet at Redline. j/k

Who would race on the East Side? Steve, Will, OrangeS10, and me? lol

SNEAKY
08-21-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by David Z28
OK, let's all meet at Redline. j/k

Who would race on the East Side? Steve, Will, OrangeS10, and me? lol

moncuseX could race on your team.

Boss Hogg
08-21-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by SNEAKY
moncuseX could race on your team.
OK, so that equals 4 people who will be racing.

SNEAKY
08-21-2003, 12:29 AM
ok, you can have StngTmr also

slvr01
08-21-2003, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by David Z28
I think it would be better with stock motors and no nitrous or boost.


My thought is that it will never happen.
I'm game. I might need to hire a driver though

GR8WHITE
08-21-2003, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by StangTamer
Not if my car was there!! You would get sssssmoked!!!


The devil would be there too, seeing as his home track would be frozen over......:D :p

SNEAKY
08-21-2003, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by GR8WHITE
The devil would be there too, seeing as his home track would be frozen over......:D :p
stangtamer just slapped

Monsoon X
08-21-2003, 10:41 AM
You can count on me!

I'm sure Beenfetched would be there.

Boss Hogg
08-21-2003, 10:55 AM
A plethora of some of the fastest LS1s in DFW will be gathering at Redline this Friday if anyone wants to smack us down.

Got Stripes?
08-21-2003, 01:52 PM
Sign me up for the Drag Radial Class :D

JamesB
08-21-2003, 02:29 PM
I would like to be in this.

FlowJack
08-21-2003, 02:38 PM
I would race.:)

SNEAKY
08-21-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Got Stripes?
Sign me up for the Drag Radial Class :D


no class's it will be either ford VS brand X or east side VS west side.

sDun
08-21-2003, 07:17 PM
East side, Ford side, I don't care lets just race. It would be nice to race some chevys(or old Pontiacs. hahahaha).